Prigozhin, founder of Wagner PMC: Soledar is completely liberated and cleared from the Armed Forces of Ukraine

On the evening of January 11, the founder of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin announced the complete liberation of the city of Soledar in the Donetsk People's Republic. According to Prigozhin, Soledar has now been completely cleared of militants from Ukrainian formations.

As the head of the PMC noted, the fighters have now begun cleaning up the salt mines located under the city. Individual militants may still be hiding in them. But the city itself is already completely under the control of the Russian Federation.

According to Prigozhin, the civilians of the city were withdrawn. Those Ukrainian formations that did not want to surrender were destroyed. The number of those killed on the Ukrainian side is about 500 people. In addition, Prigozhin stressed that there can be no talk of a humanitarian corridor for prisoners.

Recall that Soledar was taken literally in the last few days, although this was preceded by a long assault on the city. Then the fighters of the PMC "Wagner" entered the center of Soledar, later appeared on its western outskirts, from where on January 10-11 they knocked out the Ukrainian formations that had settled there.

Earlier, the acting head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, said that the liberation of Soledar and Marinka would be a turning point for the liberation of Donbass as a whole. Indeed, Russian troops will now be able to advance further, liberating new settlements in the region and destroying Ukrainian formations in the event that they do not begin a retreat to the west.

Comments

[Murmur 55]

Without sarcasm and taunts, how many more of these Soledars will it take to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

[Vyacheslav57]

Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

Alexander Firstly, you need to congratulate the guys of PMC Wagner on such a victory. Further, the Ukrainian human resources are not endless, and with each such Soledar, the psychological breakdown of the Ukrainian army is obvious. This is how many of them died in Soledar itself and during the approach?

[invisible_man]

You might think that our resources are endless. How many such Soledars are ahead? Everyone storm in the forehead? Or, perhaps, the newly minted commander will come up with something more interesting and more economical in terms of losses?

[Plate]

Yes, bomb everything. I think if hundreds of tons of bombs are regularly thrown at Kyiv, Ukraine will not be up to Soledar at all.

[low war]

Are you sure you are not a Nazi, like in the Ukraine? Or do you have a purely "English approach" - to cover as many people as possible with blood and commit genocide. In fact, many Slavs live there. The goal of the SVO is denazification. After such statements, the troops there will be replenished with volunteers. Provocateur!

[Abbot]

Quote: Vyacheslav57

Firstly, you need to congratulate the guys of PMC Wagner on such a victory. Further, the Ukrainian human resources are not endless, and with each such Soledar, the psychological breakdown of the Ukrainian army is obvious. This is how many of them died in Soledar itself and during the approach?

Congratulations to the musicians, the whole orchestra and their conductor. They did take it! Well done! But I'll argue further. The psychological breakdown is not obvious, in essence - a local success. It may be too early to say, but as long as the front in the Donetsk direction has not crumbled, the territory of Russia (DNR) has not been liberated. In general, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were hammered in both in Kyiv and in NATO. Military propaganda works not only in Ukraine and Europe, but also in our country, unfortunately. Their losses affect us more. Constant videos with prisoners, with the wounded, reports of losses do not reduce the overall combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - according to our reports, they are defending themselves to the limit, the supply of groups, the supply of weapons does not stop. We must face the truth.

[besikexe]

It is enough to de-energize and deprive the power industry, simultaneously eliminating the officials of Maidanland (the last Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation completely scored). Those who like to fight under the slogans of the SS Galicia should have a choice, either to go to take out their own to a safer place, or to sit further in the trench. I tell you as a Ukrainian.

[Dartik]

Quote from besikexe

It is enough to de-energize and deprive the power industry, simultaneously eliminating the officials of Maidanland (the last Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation completely scored). Those who like to fight under the slogans of the SS Galicia should have a choice, either to go to take out their own to a safer place, or to sit further in the trench. I tell you as a Ukrainian.

So without energy and so left. Simply, missiles are expensive and everything that was cost-effectively destroyed. Well, officials will be removed, there will be others, then what? After all, a whole country took up arms there, and not a group of people.

[Plate]

Quote from lowwar

Or do you have such a purely "English approach"

Yes, I have a purely English approach. Although it was privatized by the Americans a long time ago, but I think Russia also needs to become a contender for property. Even in the Second World War, for some reason, our troops stormed German cities, having the means to level them with the ground, which the same Americans did not hesitate to do. Note that, as a result, Americans are loved and adored in Europe, and the Germans tell everyone, to themselves, first of all, how the bombed-out cities arranged for themselves. And in general, Americans love to bomb everything and everything. Vietnam, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya... why doesn't Russia do the same? There are possibilities. And a lot.

Quote from lowwar

In fact, many Slavs live there.

I thought the same for the first few months of NWO. Fraternal people, almost united with us, what a bombing here... but, in my opinion, the Ukrainians have fully proved that they are separate from us. And if so, then what is the point of not using all the conventional arsenals?

Quote from lowwar

After such statements, the troops there will be replenished with volunteers. Provocateur!

I don't think that Ukrainians care about Russian forums in the same way that we don't care about Ukrainian and American ones.
In general, I note that I finally came to such a position after the photograph of the blown up Crimean bridge in Kyiv, against the background of which simple, seemingly, Kievans posed. Well, since they have such an attitude, then, I believe, we have the moral right to drink them, as Comrade Churchill used to say, from the same cup of grief from which they intend to drink us.
In general, I think it is high time for Russia to start waging wars in the English and American ways. The most prudent, cynical and cruel, with the maximum benefit for themselves, spitting on the interests of everyone else.

[citizen242]

In the telegram channel Wagner, the tankers talk about the goal: "destroy the enemy as much as possible" - not about denazification or an offensive, but to destroy as much as possible.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: citizen242

In the telegram channel Wagner, the tankers talk about the goal: "destroy the enemy as much as possible" - not about denazification or an offensive, but to destroy as much as possible.

They speak correctly. The enemy is destroyed, and not taken away from him weapons and released.

[NAF-NAF]

What's wrong? You can treat the unarmed. Violent and dangerous ones have to be shot. This is a forced measure. We will re-educate civilians.

[Prisoner]

Would you like the tankers to dream of taking RPGs from the unreasonable "half-brothers" and seating them at the set table? The enemy is the enemy. It needs to be destroyed.

[Johnson Smithson]

In the telegram channel Wagner, tankers talk about the goal: "destroy the enemy as much as possible"

and what is wrong? the goal of the NWO is demilitarization, this is the destruction of the enemy army,
those who do not want to fight, they surrender and they are not destroyed

[citizen242]

This is because they have an exact goal that they know about.

[topol717]

Quote from invisible_man

Everyone storm in the forehead?

Who told you about the assault on the forehead?
This has never happened. There everything is according to science, artillery covers, sappers clean up approaches, and fighters clean up the city. Naturally, there are nuances everywhere, but in general something like this. If it had been on the forehead, then the city would have been bogged down 3 months ago, but a lot of people would have been put down.

[Prjanik]

I will say more, it is not profitable for the Wagners to take cities, especially those taken in pincers, because their task is to kill as many enemies as possible. Ideal when the enemy clings to the settlement at any cost, and endlessly grind enemy reinforcements from convenient heights and positions, creating an overwhelming superiority in firepower

[Prisoner]

Still, you are doing a bad job, gentlemen, you sharovarny provocateurs. Badly. I would say clumsily. Clichés-clichés-clichés. The same phrases, the same messages. In general, not cool.

[Terenin]

Quote from invisible_man

You might think that our resources are endless. How many such Soledars are ahead? Everyone storm in the forehead? Or, perhaps, the newly minted commander will come up with something more interesting and more economical in terms of losses?

In this case, it is not the presence or absence of resources that plays the main role, but the lack of chances for the defenders to survive.

[MonsterTank]

Prigozhin is the next president of Russia! Here you will see!

[Prisoner]

Well, you will probably take the post of Nostradamus.

[Volga073]

If he replaced Shoigu, it would be much more useful!!

[MonsterTank]

If you support Wagner, they downvote you, if you criticize them, they downvote you again. Make up your mind!

[Volga073]

If he replaced Shoigu, it would be just right!

[yuriy55]

Quote: Volga073

If he Shoigu replaced, it would be just right!

Is this not the same Mr. whose daughter and her husband went on vacation to Dubai and rented a room for 40 rubles a day?
This is from the category of gentlemen that collect Russian guys in the area under fire for (???)
* * *
I bow to the Wagnerites. That's who should be put in key positions in Russia, and not these flabby and gruff clowns.

[Flanker692]

In Russia, people with a criminal record are prohibited from participating in presidential elections. There is nothing else to do with such bouquets as Prigogine's.

[cash]

for some reason, NATO intelligence and everything else did not help the super commandos with pig muzzles in a maneuverable battle ... they threw a bunch of all sorts of Sasov cadets and other "ilite" khokhils into the saltar
musicians do the right thing that they destroy the enemy’s human resources and do not stand on ceremony with them, the goal of any war is always the enemy’s army, the territory will grow in the process

[Sarboz]

Quote: Vyacheslav57

This is how many of them died in Soledar itself and during the approach?

According to the most conservative estimates, at least 25 thousand Nazis.

[zenion]

If someone comes to the Kremlin, enters, rebels, starts kicking the floor, kicking the table with his hand, he will have to return the city.

[Shurik70]

As an ideology, Nazism is indestructible. Like weeds.
The only thing we can do is "weed" more often. And fight those who fertilize where it is not necessary.
The news is great. I hope that by "cleared" I mean exactly what is cleaned. That few people left the Nazis from there to the other side of the front.

[NAF-NAF]

And what about Nazi collaborators at the top? In our? Dressing up as patriots, but acting into the hands of the enemy?

[Belisarius]

Quote: Murmur 55

Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

Only in the north of the DPR, at first, the Artemovsk-Soledar-Svatovo line. Then Chasov Yar-Nikolaevka.
Then the main line of defense Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Druzhkovka. And access to the borders of the DPR. But it's only in the north...
And most importantly, with access to the borders of the DPR, the enemy will not stop the war.

[bath]

Lyman, Ijumu, Kherson

I would argue that such a victory is not the right way to restore trust.

Everyone expects a decisive victory.

[Terenin]

Quote from: wanna

Lyman, Ijumu, Kherson

I would argue that such a victory is not the right way to restore trust.

Everyone expects a decisive victory.

I don't understand your idea at all. Trust whom to whom?

[carpenter]

Quote: Murmur 55

Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

They've already found someone who will break it.
"In connection with the expansion of the scope of tasks." New permutations in the Russian army
Shoigu appoints Gerasimov as commander of the grouping of troops in Ukraine instead of Surovikin.

[chingachguc]

Soledar is the point of application of forces. We forced the Khokhols to fight in positions that were unfavorable for them. They would have to retreat behind Bakhmutka and organize defense there in advantageous positions. But no. Natural redneck is higher than reason and even the instinct of self-preservation

[evgen1221]

Almost every city. They do not feel sorry for their own, they believe that foreigners will come to them and rebuild everything.

[Paragraph]

If serious. After all, they not only break their backs. they break their faith in themselves. And these won't last long.

[Gpn27]

It turns out that the Wagner fighters killed those who did not immediately surrender and did not have time to escape. After the reprisals against our military, incomprehensible exchanges, I fully support this decision.

[molyr]

which means simply, if you didn’t give up, then you resisted, don’t write nonsense

[Gpn27]

The Azovites also offered resistance in Mariupol, but they negotiated with them, fussed for a month, but here they didn’t seem to.

[molyr]

well, for sure, because in terms of the population of cities and the number of those surrounded almost one to one, and they surrounded them in the same place

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: molyr

well, for sure, because in terms of the population of cities and the number of those surrounded almost one to one, and they surrounded them in the same place

Everything was done right. Therefore, they were offered to surrender, and given time. Everyone chooses his own.

[isv000]

Quote from Gpn27

The Azovites also offered resistance in Mariupol, but they negotiated with them, fussed for a month, but here they didn’t seem to.

After some Azov people “suddenly” found themselves under the Turkish sun, it’s easier to beat them on the spot, and then it’s business ... Otherwise, then mess with them, in vain ...

[VB]

"There are no prisoners in the Civil War." L.G. Kornilov

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: VB

"There are no prisoners in the Civil War." L.G. Kornilov

good thing he got spanked quickly

[Storog dvornik]

Citizen, have you already "invented something more interesting and more economical"? ... Or the disability of the Unified State Exam does not allow you to turn on the organ of invention ... It happens ...

[Prisoner]

"It works", "it looks like". Are you reading tea leaves there? Wagner's assault troops are not Bandera's killers, but a military unit. They destroy enemy soldiers in battle, and do not kill those who surrender. Or have they decided to try the executioner's cap on our fighters? No need.

[cash]

Wagner would be engaged in cleaning up the Azov steel - there would be no prisoners, and bio-garbage would not be sitting in Turkey now

[Zefr]

It turns out that the Wagner fighters killed those who did not immediately surrender and did not have time to escape.

They didn't kill anyone. Why are you talking. Destroyed living force.

[NAF-NAF]

Gerasimov and the Ministry of Defense company urgently for an internship at Wagner PMC! Adopt experience.

[sergey32]

Under Ivan Vasilyevich the Terrible, the oprichnina army also fought well, for example, in the battle of Molodi. But I don’t remember something that the governors joyfully went to the guardsmen for experience.

[gsev]

Quote: sergey32

Under Ivan Vasilyevich the Terrible, the oprichnina army also fought well, for example, in the battle of Molodi.

In Tver, guardsmen terrorized local residents. They were tired of killing uncomplaining victims and they decided to mock the captured Tatar soldiers who were sitting in prison. When the Tatars saw that they were being killed, they themselves began to kill the armed guardsmen with their bare hands and drove them out of prison. The guardsmen had to call the Zemstvo archers so that they could save them from captured Tatars and shoot the daredevils who did not want to accept a painful death. Oprichniki were created for the repression of those objectionable to Ivan the Terrible (cruel, bloodthirsty or sadist, as the word formidable is translated from Old Russian into modern), inside Russia and not to fight an external enemy. As an effective army in the fight against the Crimean Tatars, they did not show themselves. The oprichnina army was disbanded and Ivan 4 ordered to ban any mention of the oprichina. If they were an effective army, they would have been preserved as an integral part of the armed forces. Peter 1 did not disband the amusing regiments, both lancers and hussars took root in Russia. After the victory over Napoleon, the Russian army rearmed with captured French edged weapons, and in 1942 in the USSR they began to form tank corps according to the states copied from German tank divisions, taking into account the capabilities of domestic industry (an excess of 76-mm guns and a lack of howitzers).

[evgen1221]

Yeah, the unarmed prisoners in the prison began to nightmare armed well-fed guardsmen, yeah, twice.

[nickname7]

repression of objectionable

Another witness to the repression. Repression can be seen in any historical event and under any ruler, William the Conqueror repressed the Saxons after landing, the Romans repressed Carthage, the pirate Drake repressed Spanish merchants, etc. But for some reason, history does not think so, unlike the sect of witnesses of repression.

Oprichniki created for the repression of objectionable

Ivan the Terrible pursued a policy in the interests of the country, a policy of land consolidation taking away these from individual feudal lords, that is, he eliminated feudal fragmentation, alas, it will not work to be clean.
From the point of view of a refined layman of the 22nd century, there was bloodthirsty sadism in the Middle Ages, but those were just the war whose profession is to take life. A terrible ordinary ruler of the Middle Ages who did his job, he is no worse than other rulers, your accusations are false. Well, compared to Tokugawa, Tsar Ivan the Terrible is a real sweetheart, the Japanese do not reflect on this. You need to perceive the Middle Ages calmly without reflections.

Peter 1 did not disband the amusing regiments

Peter came to the consolidated lands ready, otherwise he would also have had to create an oprichnina.

[Hadji Murat]

Especially when Devlet Giray burned Moscow in 1571, and in the Battle of Molodi thanks to the archers, nobles and Cossacks and Prince Vorotynsky, there were not many guardsmen there

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: NAF-NAF

Gerasimov and the Ministry of Defense company urgently for an internship at Wagner PMC! Adopt experience.

They all need to retire, not gain experience.

[NSV]

Maybe it’s not necessary to appoint Gerasimov, but to create a General Headquarters under the leadership of Prigozhin, Kadyrov !!!

[invisible_man]

Kadyrov, apart from showing off, was not marked by anything. And in general, the Akhmat regiment is the National Guard. They do not storm, but clean up (that is, they work in settlements liberated by the RF Armed Forces).

[gsev]

Quote from invisible_man

They do not storm, but clean up (that is, they work in settlements liberated by the RF Armed Forces).

Then it means that one regiment of the Chechen special forces Akhmat managed to neutralize the special forces of Ukraine and all NATO countries. It was on the sabotage and guerrilla war that the Armed Forces of Ukraine staked.

[nickname7]

create a General Headquarters under the control of Prigozhin, Kadyrov !!! There will be more sense, the NWO will go faster

It's not about the headquarters, the successes are explained by the excellent training of the infantry, it is the infantry that takes the cities. But mass motorized rifles have poor training, therefore they cannot boast of success.

[Alien From]

It's not about heroic taking, it's about leaving. Elections are coming soon, trends are outlined.

[Al manah]

While Shoigu is shuffling the generals, Prigogine is taking the cities.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Al Manah

While Shoigu is shuffling the generals, Prigogine is taking the cities.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Al Manah

Prigozhin takes cities.

So I see ... the body of the Hulk, an armored exoskeleton, in the hands of a 30-mm autocannon ... Prigogine's muzzle! Against the backdrop of the dilapidated Eiffel Tower!

[gsev]

Quote: Al Manah

Prigozhin takes cities

Until the battles for Soledar are over. The Ukrainians there exchanged their territorial defense for experienced fighters of the Russian PMC who had experience of the war in Syria and Africa. Surely the Ukrainians were able to concentrate long-range self-propelled guns and MLRS around Soledar and they will try to stop the further offensive in this direction with artillery strikes with alternating short counterattacks.

[Hadji Murat]

Something the exchange turned out to be very indecent, and they put a lot of mercenaries there, there are very few of our losses

[voice of reason]

Quote: Murmur 55

Without sarcasm and taunts, how many more of these Soledars will it take to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

Quote from invisible_man

You might think that our resources are endless. How many such Soledars are ahead? Everyone storm in the forehead? Or, perhaps, the newly minted commander will come up with something more interesting and more economical in terms of losses?

that they brought a new manual?
Well, after Soledar there will be Artemovsk, after Artemovsk, Seversk and Vugledar, then Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, and then all the steppes to the Dnieper ...

[Strannik96]

And what else remains for them to do, they write what they will say, although it’s time and they already have their feet in their hands

[Nikolay310]

and where did the Donbass cities of Ugledar, Dobropolye, Kurakhovo, Selidovo, Krasnoarmeysk, Konstantinovka, Druzhkovka go??? and the Dnieper is "covered" by a number of Dnepropetrovsk cities, for example, like Pavlograd ...

open the card at least in front of your "cleverness" ... like the voice of reason ... but he doesn't even know how to use Yandex

[isv000]

Quote: voice of reason

Well, after Soledar there will be Artemovsk, after Artemovsk, Seversk and Vugledar, then Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, and then all the steppes to the Dnieper ...

... and on the last street they read the name: Dnepropetrovsk street! ... By the time we get there, the city will fall into our hands - the Sumerians will try to jump over the Dnieper until the tail is pinched ...

[Belisarius]

First city taken since June. The enemy is still at Sol station and on the western outskirts. But still, this is a success. Let it be tactical, as part of the generally insane breaking through the fortifications in the forehead in the Donbass, but a success.
It is also very correct that there were no "humanitarian corridors". Either immediately captured or to Bandera.
We must congratulate Wagner and all those involved - parts of the Airborne Forces, 6th regiment of the LPR, etc.

[isv000]

Quote: Belisarius

It is also very correct that there were no "humanitarian corridors". Either immediately captured or to Bandera.

Exactly! And vsukam - immediately in the kidney!

[VladimirNET]

Quote: Murmur 55

How many more of these Soledars will it take to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

According to the experience of the war of 1941-45, this is not measured by cities, but only by the military potential of the enemy.

For comparison, under Stalingrad, the losses of the Germans amounted to: more than 1.5 million people, up to 3500 tanks and assault guns, 12 thousand guns and mortars, up to 3 thousand aircraft. As I understand it, of these - the number of prisoners is 91545 people, of which 2500 officers, 23 generals and one field marshal. A source:
https://dzen.ru/a/YcMy-kv-gWI98CkJ

If we compare the population, then:
1. In 1941 - the population of Germany: up to 117 million.
2. In 2022 - the population of Ukraine is 41 million (35.04%).
3. 1.5 million * 0.3504 = 525.6 thousand.

[rocket757]

Prigozhin, founder of Wagner PMC: Soledar is completely liberated and cleared from the Armed Forces of Ukraine

. So if you think about it, look around and dig into history, PMCs of the city are not taken / released.
In general, there are a lot of strange things in this STRANGE MILITARY OPERATION, we don’t call it that for nothing.

[Terenin]

Quote: rocket757

to delve into history, PMCs of the city do not take / release.

Victor, they just weren't called that.
Ah, look "silently", so this is the most modern motivated, professional, well-armed and equipped combat unit, with iron discipline.
And, we will leave the adjustment (role and place) of them in the state-legal structure to the heads of scientific departments ...

[rocket757]

Gennady
It is clear that in terms of mode of action, tactics, heavy assault infantry ... but in terms of structure, type and organization system, they are not fixated on exaggerated indicators, most importantly, the effectiveness of actions.
However, the issues of organization both within the structure and interaction with the army and other units are hidden from us ... but this is not so important, against the background of how effectively they work.

[nickname7]

they are not fixated on exaggerated indicators, the main thing is the effectiveness of actions.

PMCs definitely do not march, do not stuff edgings, do not keep a magazine for registering magazines.

[agoran]

Especially for those who are talking about the humanitarian corridor.

[AlexTires]

Are you sure that Prigozhin is so independent in this regard?

[rocket757]

Question ... what's the difference?
I’ll add a question ... have you ever heard, read, about someone independent, independent, at least in some plans, aspects, when very big, specific guys are interested in the game, in one way or another take part ???
To believe in such "miracles" one must be very naive.

[isv000]

Quote: AlexTires

Are you sure that Prigozhin is so independent in this regard?

But I somehow like his independence. He fights businesslike, gives everyone a chance, does his job well - what else do you need? His bashi-buzuki take the untakeable head-on, allowing our soldiers and officers to learn to survive at the cost of their lives! We should expand his powers, within the limits of course, but expand them and help them. There are a lot of people in prison in the country and many could try to return to life in a new capacity, having gone through the crucible of Wagner...

[isv000]

Cleaning up the mines: isn't it possible to save the lives of the Wagnerites by releasing gas, at least amusing? Let them tear at the end ...

[Slon_on]

Congratulations on your success to both the Orchestra and the Chief! Well done!

[Carlos Hall]

Big victory on the account of Wagner and Prigogine

[Terenin]

Quote from Carlos Sala

Big victory on the account of Wagner and Prigogine

By the way, this is the first sign confirming that "Russians harness for a long time, but they drive fast."
I remember how quickly the Chechens harnessed (God bless them, well done) putting up tens of thousands of fighters ... but the PMCs in Soledar have so far eclipsed everyone.

[kill the fascist]

Congratulations guys, respect and no loss in the future! Separate respect to Prigozhin for this: there can be no talk of a humanitarian corridor for prisoners.

[AlexTires]

Now the most important thing is that the rumors about the allegedly being prepared golden bridge for the Armed Forces of Ukraine would not be confirmed

[Pavel Pavlovskiy]

Private military companies.
They are slowly replacing the Russian Army. Guerrilla wars, damn it.

[Two]

What are you happy about? The city was liberated by a PMC, and where is our glorious army? The PMC earns its money by carrying out the tasks assigned to it as expected. Sum up the results of our military campaign for the year, they are deplorable, they did not even liberate Avdiivka, they continue to shoot at Donetsk as they did before. They are imposing lines of defense on us, in which we are stuck for a long time and maniacally take them head-on by storm. Now they have changed the commander, this will not end well.

[Guran33 Sergey]

There is little joy in a civil war... And at the front, everyone is fulfilling their functions, for example, the SVO group near Kremennaya is extinguishing the offensive impulse of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and did not allow the transfer of troop reserves and forced the transfer of strategic ones from across the river near Artemovsk-Soledar, which means that some event at the Ukrainian Armed Forces command is being disrupted.

[cash]

20 oa 3 msd operates on the matchmaking-flint line, they also crush pigs there in large quantities

[isv000]

Quote from kasy

20 oa 3 msd operates on the matchmaking-flint line, they also crush pigs there in large quantities

For pigs! They didn’t make stew from such bulls!

[VladimirNET]

Quote: Two

Why rejoice ... they impose lines of defense in which we get stuck for a long time and maniacally take them head-on by storm.

You are right, but you also need to rejoice - any victory (albeit not so significant in general). However, any complete encirclement of part of the enemy troops is already a local success.

Quote: Two

Now the commander has been changed, it will not end well.

In fact, instead of one, they put _many_ commanders (that is, deputies, who together form the headquarters of the front).
Is it good? - depends on the tasks at hand (if there are too many of them, then Surovikin alone may not be able to cope).

[Glagol1]

After the flight from Kherson, a terrible flight primarily due to the consequences for civilians, the first good news. But people have drunk so much grief that they no longer have the strength to rejoice. Tears and bitterness.
Wagner of course, BEAUTIFUL!

[Nastia makarova]

why flee? retreat and carried out simply brilliantly, will go into textbooks

[Wayfarer_2]

Now it would be good to strike somewhere in the Sumy region, for example, and gain a foothold there. In order to prevent the transfer of reinforcements to Artemovsk, Avdeevka because of the threat to Kyiv, as well as the loss of new territories. Finish off Bandera in Donbass. Then take up Kharkiv, Zaporozhye and Nikolaev regions with a subsequent exit to Odessa. But you need to use at least 40-50% of the army so as not to stagnate for months ..

[isv000]

Quote: Traveler_2

Now it would be good to strike somewhere in the Sumy region, for example, and gain a foothold there. In order to prevent the transfer of reinforcements to Artemovsk, Avdeevka because of the threat to Kyiv, as well as the loss of new territories. Finish off Bandera in Donbass. Then take up Kharkiv, Zaporozhye and Nikolaev regions with a subsequent exit to Odessa. But you need to use at least 40-50% of the army so as not to stagnate for months ..

There is nothing simpler: you finish school, a military university, an academy and - forward, good luck, Goodbye Earth! "Why aren't you at the front?!"

[egorMTG]

Quote: MonsterTank

Prigozhin is the next president of Russia! Here you will see!

- In the current status, there may not be a next President...
In case of some success (temporary and limited) in Ukraine, the Monarchy could be restored in Russia, with the Emperor at the head....

[gsev]

Quote: egorMTG

in Russia, the Monarchy can be restored, with the Emperor at the head ....

Emperor of the Kabaevs? I think Putin understands the stupidity of such a situation for his children and grandchildren. In general, the Novgorod Republic demonstrated its viability for 600 years, and the history of the House of Romanov barely crossed the 300-year milestone.

[isv000]

Quote: egorMTG

- In the current status - the next President may not be ...
In the event of some success (temporary and limited) in Ukraine, the Monarchy can be restored in Russia, with the Emperor at the head ....

Of course, I am FOR your assumption, because every normal monarch tries to transfer the state into normal hands, but I think there will still be a state council with a chairman ... Volfych said!

[Russian Patriot]

Yes, Prigogine is old. Putin's place will be taken by Mishustin. Perfectly.
I think that after the departure of the GDP, fierce squabbles and unrest will begin. And there anyone can jump on the throne.

[zenion]

Shaw? Will the Poles occupy Moscow again? Where are the peasants to lure them to Ukraine?

[VladimirNET]

Quote: VladimirNET

how many more such Soledars are needed ...?

To the above, let's add an assessment of the battle near Moscow: the enemy lost more than 500 thousand people, 1,3 thousand tanks, 2,5 thousand guns killed, wounded and missing.

1. In 1941 - the population of Germany: up to 117 million.
2. In 2022 - the population of Ukraine is 41 million (35.04%).
3. 500 thousand * 0.3504 = 175.2 thousand.

Losses of Ukraine on 01.12.2022/200/XNUMX - together with the wounded (and missing) can be estimated at XNUMX thousand, source:
https://military.pravda.ru/news/1783051-poteri/

[Clear]

Prigozhin stressed that there can be no talk of a humanitarian corridor for prisoners.

That's right, the more gum corridors, the more dill fortresses later

[dump22]

You should not say Soledar, but use the correct Soviet name - Karlo-Liebknechtovsk!

[Christian Revuelta]

War is horror but there was no choice. Zelensky is truly a psychopath

[Fima]

NO, I am not a sadist, a simple Soviet engineer. A lot of faulty equipment, with the possibility of repair by electric welding on site. To provide energy, bring a couple of diesel sheds 50-100 kW. And the exhaust? Where will the wind, the temperature difference carry it, an accident?!!!!

[digger]

Previously, there were many Soviet and then Russian militants where the main character was an Afghan. After the SVO, the Wagnerites will go.
When time passes, Russian militants will go where the main characters of the Wagnerites will appear ... who are especially motivated and prepared ... who came to civilian life and faced injustice ... banditry and corruption

[Russian Patriot]

Finally, a hero-leader appeared in this war.
Evgeny Prigogine.
While Shoigu concludes grain deals, the generals change chairs, he is at war.

[egorMTG]

Quote from Johnson Smithson

In the telegram channel Wagner, tankers talk about the goal: "destroy the enemy as much as possible"

and what is wrong? the goal of the NWO is demilitarization, this is the destruction of the enemy army,
those who do not want to fight, they surrender and they are not destroyed

- Never heard the World *wisdom* - You can't defeat the people!...

[egorMTG]

Quote: Digger

Previously, there were many Soviet and then Russian militants where the main character was an Afghan. After the SVO, the Wagnerites will go.
When time passes, Russian militants will go where the main characters of the Wagnerites will appear ... who are especially motivated and prepared ... who came to civilian life and faced injustice ... banditry and corruption

- And no one is surprised anymore that in today's militants law enforcement is either powerless or acts on the opposite side...

[egorMTG]

Quote: isv000

Quote: egorMTG

- In the current status - the next President may not be ...
In the event of some success (temporary and limited) in Ukraine, the Monarchy can be restored in Russia, with the Emperor at the head ....

Of course, I am FOR your assumption, because every normal monarch tries to transfer the state into normal hands, but I think there will still be a state council with a chairman ... Volfych said!

- This is not a proposal... this is my *layout*. And Volfych has always been a fierce monarchist. From time to time he would blow trial bubbles: - how would the people react - to burst them, or admire their rainbow glow...
- What role he assigned himself under the Monarchy - we will not know ... It turns out that everything has its logical end.

[egorMTG]

Quote: NAF-NAF

And what about Nazi collaborators at the top? In our? Dressing up as patriots, but acting into the hands of the enemy?

- We need to figure it out. And we certainly can't ignore it...

[egorMTG]

Quote: gsev

Quote: egorMTG

in Russia, the Monarchy can be restored, with the Emperor at the head ....

Emperor of the Kabaevs? I think Putin understands the stupidity of such a situation for his children and grandchildren. In general, the Novgorod Republic demonstrated its viability for 600 years, and the history of the House of Romanov barely crossed the 300-year milestone.

- Such *stupidity* will allow him to rule forever...without fear and continuing in his heirs.
- All plankton will be very happy. Those who have foolishly appropriated the titles of princes, nobles, and counts will receive legislative confirmation from the Duma. And the Palace, which is being completed near Gelendzhik, will be presented to the Court of His Imperial Majesty, on the occasion of the inauguration, as the greatest patronage gift from a noble Baron...

[rocket757]

Prigozhin, founder of Wagner PMC: Soledar is completely liberated and cleared from the Armed Forces of Ukraine

. Part of the job done, to be continued!!!

[Li17]

I'm watching TV news, our silence, Ukrainians as usual, also in our style - we win! It turns out that they took Prigozhin, but in the official one there is silence? What is it with us somehow...!

[Misha Mihalkov]

"General Armageddon" - senior: Why the West is afraid of the Russian commander Valery Gerasimov
11.01.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX Head of the Ministry of Defense Shoigu appointed Gerasimov commander of the united group of troops. Before the advent of "General Armageddon" Surovikin, it was Gerasimov who was the main fear of NATO.
Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu appointed Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, commander of a group of forces in the zone of a special military operation. He instilled fear in NATO long before "General Armageddon" Sergei Surovikin appeared on the scene.
Valery Gerasimov came to the attention of the foreign press back in 2013, after he published his thoughts on military science in the weekly Russian newspaper Military Industrial Courier. The material was devoted to the concept of "hybrid warfare".
In the XNUMXst century, there is a tendency to blur the distinction between the state of war and peace. Wars are no longer declared, and when they start, they do not go according to the pattern we are used to,
- Valery Gerasimov's reflections, which have become prophetic, say. Back in February 2013, the general pointed out that asymmetric actions were widespread. These include the use of special operations forces and internal opposition to create a permanent front on the entire territory of the opposing state, as well as informational influence, the forms and methods of which are constantly being improved. Subsequent events demonstrated the correctness of the general.

[Kostadinov]

Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

If without sarcasm, then Russia today has more than 150 million people, and Ukraine has no more than 25 million.
The difference is more than 6 times. If the worst case is accepted, that the Russian losses are not less than the Ukrainian ones, then the victory of the Russians leaves no doubts.
The only question is about the motivation to endure losses among the Ukrainians. Time and loss of both sides depend on this. If they can endure another 100 casualties, then the battle will drag on for another few months.
Foreign mercenaries are few (several thousand) on both sides and they will not change the course of the battles.

[Archivist Vasya]

Well done soldiers! There has been no good news for a long time.

[Ulum]

Thank you, guys. Wagner heroes, real iron assault infantry.

Quote from lowwar

Are you sure you are not a Nazi, like in the Ukraine? Or do you have a purely "English approach" - to cover as many people as possible with blood and commit genocide. In fact, many Slavs live there. The goal of the SVO is denazification. After such statements, the troops there will be replenished with volunteers. Provocateur!

And you, you see, from the Christos. Do you want to love everyone? There are no peaceful people there. All cattle are bloodthirsty. There is no one to pity