Prigozhin, founder of Wagner PMC: Soledar is completely liberated and cleared from the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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Prigozhin, founder of Wagner PMC: Soledar is completely liberated and cleared from the Armed Forces of Ukraine

On the evening of January 11, the founder of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin announced the complete liberation of the city of Soledar in the Donetsk People's Republic. According to Prigozhin, Soledar has now been completely cleared of militants from Ukrainian formations.

As the head of the PMC noted, the fighters have now begun cleaning up the salt mines located under the city. Individual militants may still be hiding in them. But the city itself is already completely under the control of the Russian Federation.



According to Prigozhin, the civilians of the city were withdrawn. Those Ukrainian formations that did not want to surrender were destroyed. The number of those killed on the Ukrainian side is about 500 people. In addition, Prigozhin stressed that there can be no talk of a humanitarian corridor for prisoners.

Recall that Soledar was taken literally in the last few days, although this was preceded by a long assault on the city. Then the fighters of the PMC "Wagner" entered the center of Soledar, later appeared on its western outskirts, from where on January 10-11 they knocked out the Ukrainian formations that had settled there.

Earlier, the acting head of the DPR, Denis Pushilin, said that the liberation of Soledar and Marinka would be a turning point for the liberation of Donbass as a whole. Indeed, Russian troops will now be able to advance further, liberating new settlements in the region and destroying Ukrainian formations in the event that they do not begin a retreat to the west.
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  1. +2
    January 11 2023
    Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?
    1. +45
      January 11 2023
      Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

      Alexander hi Firstly, you need to congratulate the guys of PMC Wagner on such a victory. Further, the Ukrainian human resources are not endless, and with each such Soledar, the psychological breakdown of the Ukrainian army is obvious. This is how many of them died in Soledar itself and during the approach?
      1. -28
        January 11 2023
        You might think that our resources are endless. How many such Soledars are ahead? Everyone storm in the forehead? Or, perhaps, the newly minted commander will come up with something more interesting and more economical in terms of losses?
        1. +1
          January 11 2023
          Yes, bomb everything. I think if hundreds of tons of bombs are regularly thrown at Kyiv, Ukraine will not be up to Soledar at all.
          1. +1
            January 11 2023
            Are you sure that you will not nazis, as in ukre? Or do you have such a purely "English approach" - to cover up as many people as possible with blood and arrange genocide. In fact, many Slavs live there. The purpose of the SVO is denazification. After such statements, the troops there will be replenished with volunteers. Provocateur!
            1. 0
              January 12 2023
              Quote: Vyacheslav57
              Firstly, you need to congratulate the guys of PMC Wagner on such a victory. Further, the Ukrainian human resources are not endless, and with each such Soledar, the psychological breakdown of the Ukrainian army is obvious. This is how many of them died in Soledar itself and during the approach?


              Congratulations to the musicians, the whole orchestra and their conductor. They did take it! Well done! But I'll argue further. The psychological breakdown is not obvious, in essence - a local success. It may be too early to say, but as long as the front in the Donetsk direction has not crumbled, the territory of Russia (DNR) has not been liberated. In general, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were hammered in both in Kyiv and in NATO. Military propaganda works not only in Ukraine and Europe, but also in our country, unfortunately. Their losses affect us more. Constant videos with prisoners, with the wounded, reports of losses do not reduce the overall combat capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - according to our reports, they are defending themselves to the limit, the supply of groups, the supply of weapons does not stop. We must face the truth.
            2. -1
              January 12 2023
              It is enough to de-energize and deprive the power industry, simultaneously eliminating the officials of Maidanland (the last Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation completely scored). Those who like to fight under the slogans of the SS Galicia should have a choice, either to go to take out their own to a safer place, or to sit further in the trench. I tell you as a Ukrainian.
              1. 0
                January 12 2023
                Quote from besikexe
                It is enough to de-energize and deprive the power industry, simultaneously eliminating the officials of Maidanland (the last Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation completely scored). Those who like to fight under the slogans of the SS Galicia should have a choice, either to go to take out their own to a safer place, or to sit further in the trench. I tell you as a Ukrainian.

                So without energy and so left. Simply, missiles are expensive and everything that was cost-effectively destroyed. Well, officials will be removed, there will be others, then what? After all, a whole country took up arms there, and not a group of people.
            3. 0
              January 12 2023
              Quote from lowwar
              Or do you have such a purely "English approach"

              Yes, I have a purely English approach. Although it was privatized by the Americans a long time ago, but I think Russia also needs to become a contender for property. Even in the Second World War, for some reason, our troops stormed German cities, having the means to level them with the ground, which the same Americans did not hesitate to do. Note that, as a result, Americans are loved and adored in Europe, and the Germans tell everyone, to themselves, first of all, how the bombed-out cities arranged for themselves. And in general, Americans love to bomb everything and everything. Vietnam, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya... why doesn't Russia do the same? There are possibilities. And a lot.
              Quote from lowwar
              In fact, many Slavs live there.

              I thought the same for the first few months of NWO. Fraternal people, almost united with us, what a bombing here... but, in my opinion, the Ukrainians have fully proved that they are separate from us. And if so, then what is the point of not using all the conventional arsenals?
              Quote from lowwar
              After such statements, the troops there will be replenished with volunteers. Provocateur!

              I don't think that Ukrainians care about Russian forums in the same way that we don't care about Ukrainian and American ones.
              In general, I note that I finally came to such a position after the photograph of the blown up Crimean bridge in Kyiv, against the background of which simple, seemingly, Kievans posed. Well, since they have such an attitude, then, I believe, we have the moral right to drink them, as Comrade Churchill used to say, from the same cup of grief from which they intend to drink us.
              In general, I think it is high time for Russia to start waging wars in the English and American ways. The most prudent, cynical and cruel, with the maximum benefit for themselves, spitting on the interests of everyone else.
        2. -7
          January 11 2023
          In the telegram channel Wagner, the tankers talk about the goal: "destroy the enemy as much as possible" - not about denazification or an offensive, but to destroy as much as possible.
          1. +27
            January 11 2023
            Quote: citizen242
            In the telegram channel Wagner, the tankers talk about the goal: "destroy the enemy as much as possible" - not about denazification or an offensive, but to destroy as much as possible.

            They speak correctly. The enemy is destroyed, and not taken away from him weapons and released.
          2. +10
            January 11 2023
            What's wrong? You can treat the unarmed. Violent and dangerous ones have to be shot. This is a forced measure. We will re-educate civilians.
          3. +8
            January 11 2023
            Would you like the tankers to dream of taking RPGs from the unreasonable "half-brothers" and seating them at the set table? The enemy is the enemy. It needs to be destroyed.
          4. +1
            January 12 2023
            In the telegram channel Wagner, tankers talk about the goal: "destroy the enemy as much as possible"

            and what is wrong? the goal of the NWO is demilitarization, this is the destruction of the enemy army,
            those who do not want to fight, they surrender and they are not destroyed
            1. 0
              January 12 2023
              This is because they have an exact goal that they know about.
        3. +11
          January 11 2023
          Quote from invisible_man
          Everyone storm in the forehead?

          Who told you about the assault on the forehead?
          This has never happened. There everything is according to science, artillery covers, sappers clean up approaches, and fighters clean up the city. Naturally, there are nuances everywhere, but in general something like this. If it had been on the forehead, then the city would have been bogged down 3 months ago, but a lot of people would have been put down.
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        5. +12
          January 11 2023
          I will say more, it is not profitable for the Wagners to take cities, especially those taken in pincers, because their task is to kill as many enemies as possible. Ideal when the enemy clings to the settlement at any cost, and endlessly grind enemy reinforcements from convenient heights and positions, creating an overwhelming superiority in firepower
        6. +7
          January 11 2023
          All the same, you are doing a poor job, gentlemen provocateurs sharovarnye. Badly. I would say clumsy. Stamps, stamps, stamps. Same phrases, same messages. In general, no ice.
        7. +5
          January 12 2023
          Quote from invisible_man
          You might think that our resources are endless. How many such Soledars are ahead? Everyone storm in the forehead? Or, perhaps, the newly minted commander will come up with something more interesting and more economical in terms of losses?

          In this case, it is not the presence or absence of resources that plays a major role, but the lack of chances for the defenders to survive.
      2. -18
        January 11 2023
        Prigozhin is the next president of Russia! Here you will see!
        1. +7
          January 11 2023
          laughing Well, you will probably take the post of Nostradamus.
          1. -7
            January 12 2023
            If he replaced Shoigu, it would be much more useful!!
          2. -1
            January 12 2023
            You support Wagner - they downvote, you scold - they downvote again. You already decide!
        2. -3
          January 12 2023
          If he replaced Shoigu, it would be just right!
          1. -3
            January 12 2023
            Quote: Volga073
            If he Shoigu replaced, it would be just right!

            Is this not the same Mr. whose daughter and her husband went on vacation to Dubai and rented a room for 40 rubles a day?
            This is from the category of gentlemen that collect Russian guys in the area under fire for (???)
            * * *
            I bow to the Wagnerites. That's who should be put in key positions in Russia, and not these flabby and gruff clowns.
        3. 0
          January 12 2023
          In Russia, people with a criminal record are prohibited from participating in presidential elections. There is nothing else to do with such bouquets as Prigogine's.
      3. +3
        January 12 2023
        for some reason, NATO intelligence and everything else did not help the super commandos with pig muzzles in a maneuverable battle ... they threw a bunch of all sorts of Sasov cadets and other "ilite" khokhils into the saltar
        musicians do the right thing that they destroy the enemy’s human resources and do not stand on ceremony with them, the goal of any war is always the enemy’s army, the territory will grow in the process
      4. +1
        January 12 2023
        Quote: Vyacheslav57
        This is how many of them died in Soledar itself and during the approach?

        According to the most conservative estimates, at least 25 thousand Nazis.
      5. 0
        January 12 2023
        If someone comes to the Kremlin, enters, rebels, starts kicking the floor, kicking the table with his hand, he will have to return the city.
    2. +16
      January 11 2023
      As an ideology, Nazism is indestructible. Like weeds.
      The only thing we can do is "weed" more often. And fight those who fertilize where it is not necessary.
      The news is great. I hope that by "cleared" I mean exactly what is cleaned. That few people left the Nazis from there to the other side of the front.
      1. +2
        January 11 2023
        And what about Nazi collaborators at the top? In our? Dressing up as patriots, but acting into the hands of the enemy?
    3. +6
      January 11 2023
      Quote: Murmur 55
      Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

      Only in the north of the DPR, at first, the Artemovsk-Soledar-Svatovo line. Then Chasov Yar-Nikolaevka.
      Then the main line of defense Slavyansk-Kramatorsk-Druzhkovka. And access to the borders of the DPR. But it's only in the north...
      And most importantly, with access to the borders of the DPR, the enemy will not stop the war.
    4. -5
      January 11 2023
      Lyman, Ijumu, Kherson

      I would argue that such a victory is not the right way to restore trust.

      Everyone expects a decisive victory.
      1. +4
        January 12 2023
        Quote from: wanna
        Lyman, Ijumu, Kherson

        I would argue that such a victory is not the right way to restore trust.

        Everyone expects a decisive victory.

        I don't understand your idea at all. request Trust whom to whom?
    5. +1
      January 11 2023
      Quote: Murmur 55
      Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

      Already found someone who will break.
      "In connection with the expansion of the scope of tasks." New permutations in the Russian army
      Shoigu appoints Gerasimov as commander of the grouping of troops in Ukraine instead of Surovikin
      .
    6. +3
      January 12 2023
      Soledar is the point of application of forces. We forced the Khokhols to fight in positions that were unfavorable for them. They would have to retreat behind Bakhmutka and organize defense there in advantageous positions. But no. Natural redneck is higher than reason and even the instinct of self-preservation
    7. 0
      January 12 2023
      Almost every city. They do not feel sorry for their own, they believe that foreigners will come to them and rebuild everything.
    8. 0
      January 12 2023
      If serious. After all, they not only break their backs. they break their faith in themselves. And these won't last long.
  2. 0
    January 11 2023
    It turns out that the Wagner fighters killed those who did not immediately surrender and did not have time to escape. After the reprisals against our military, incomprehensible exchanges, I fully support this decision.
    1. +33
      January 11 2023
      which means simply, if you didn’t give up, then you resisted, don’t write nonsense
      1. -1
        January 11 2023
        The Azovites also offered resistance in Mariupol, but they negotiated with them, fussed for a month, but here they didn’t seem to.
        1. +2
          January 11 2023
          well, for sure, because in terms of the population of cities and the number of those surrounded almost one to one, and they surrounded them in the same place
          1. +3
            January 11 2023
            Quote: molyr
            well, for sure, because in terms of the population of cities and the number of those surrounded almost one to one, and they surrounded them in the same place

            Everything was done right. Therefore, they were offered to surrender, and given time. Everyone chooses his own.
        2. +10
          January 11 2023
          Quote from Gpn27
          The Azovites also offered resistance in Mariupol, but they negotiated with them, fussed for a month, but here they didn’t seem to.

          After some Azov people “suddenly” found themselves under the Turkish sun, it’s easier to beat them on the spot, and then it’s business ... Otherwise, then mess with them, in vain ...
          1. VB
            -8
            January 11 2023
            "There are no prisoners in the Civil War." L.G. Kornilov
            1. -1
              January 12 2023
              Quote: VB
              "There are no prisoners in the Civil War." L.G. Kornilov
              good thing he got spanked quickly
        3. +1
          January 11 2023
          Citizen, have you already "invented something more interesting and more economical"? ... Or the disability of the Unified State Exam does not allow you to turn on the organ of invention ... It happens ...
        4. +3
          January 12 2023
          "It turns out", "it seems". Are you guessing on the coffee grounds there? Wagner assault squads, not Bandera killers, but a military unit. The enemy soldier destroys in battle, and does not kill the one who surrenders. Or did you decide to try on the executioner's cap on our fighters? No need.
        5. 0
          January 12 2023
          Wagner would be engaged in cleaning up the Azov steel - there would be no prisoners, and bio-garbage would not be sitting in Turkey now
    2. +2
      January 12 2023
      It turns out that the Wagner fighters killed those who did not immediately surrender and did not have time to escape.
      They didn't kill anyone. Why are you talking. Destroyed living force.
  3. +5
    January 11 2023
    Gerasimov and the Ministry of Defense company urgently for an internship at Wagner PMC! Adopt experience.
    1. +5
      January 11 2023
      Under Ivan Vasilyevich the Terrible, the oprichnina army also fought well, for example, in the battle of Molodi. But I don’t remember something that the governors joyfully went to the guardsmen for experience.
      1. -7
        January 12 2023
        Quote: sergey32
        Under Ivan Vasilyevich the Terrible, the oprichnina army also fought well, for example, in the battle of Molodi.

        In Tver, guardsmen terrorized local residents. They were tired of killing uncomplaining victims and they decided to mock the captured Tatar soldiers who were sitting in prison. When the Tatars saw that they were being killed, they themselves began to kill the armed guardsmen with their bare hands and drove them out of prison. The guardsmen had to call the Zemstvo archers so that they could save them from captured Tatars and shoot the daredevils who did not want to accept a painful death. Oprichniki were created for the repression of those objectionable to Ivan the Terrible (cruel, bloodthirsty or sadist, as the word formidable is translated from Old Russian into modern), inside Russia and not to fight an external enemy. As an effective army in the fight against the Crimean Tatars, they did not show themselves. The oprichnina army was disbanded and Ivan 4 ordered to ban any mention of the oprichina. If they were an effective army, they would have been preserved as an integral part of the armed forces. Peter 1 did not disband the amusing regiments, both lancers and hussars took root in Russia. After the victory over Napoleon, the Russian army rearmed with captured French edged weapons, and in 1942 in the USSR they began to form tank corps according to the states copied from German tank divisions, taking into account the capabilities of domestic industry (an excess of 76-mm guns and a lack of howitzers).
        1. 0
          January 12 2023
          Yeah, the unarmed prisoners in the prison began to nightmare armed well-fed guardsmen, yeah, twice.
        2. 0
          January 12 2023
          repression of objectionable

          Another witness to the repression. Repression can be seen in any historical event and under any ruler, William the Conqueror repressed the Saxons after landing, the Romans repressed Carthage, the pirate Drake repressed Spanish merchants, etc. But for some reason, history does not think so, unlike the sect of witnesses of repression.

          Oprichniki created for the repression of objectionable

          Ivan the Terrible pursued a policy in the interests of the country, a policy of land consolidation taking away these from individual feudal lords, that is, he eliminated feudal fragmentation, alas, it will not work to be clean.
          From the point of view of a refined layman of the 22nd century, there was bloodthirsty sadism in the Middle Ages, but those were just the war whose profession is to take life. A formidable ordinary ruler of the Middle Ages who did his job, he is no worse than other rulers, your accusations are false. Well, against the background of Tokugawa, Tsar Grozny is generally a darling, the Japanese do not reflect on this. It is necessary to perceive the Middle Ages calmly without reflections.

          Peter 1 did not disband the amusing regiments

          Peter came to the consolidated lands ready, otherwise he would also have had to create an oprichnina.
      2. +1
        January 12 2023
        Especially when Devlet Giray burned Moscow in 1571, and in the Battle of Molodi thanks to the archers, nobles and Cossacks and Prince Vorotynsky, there were not many guardsmen there
    2. 0
      January 11 2023
      Quote: NAF-NAF
      Gerasimov and the Ministry of Defense company urgently for an internship at Wagner PMC! Adopt experience.

      They, all, need to retire, and not learn from experience.
  4. NSV
    -13
    January 11 2023
    Maybe it’s not necessary to appoint Gerasimov, but to create a General Headquarters under the leadership of Prigozhin, Kadyrov !!!
    1. -6
      January 11 2023
      Kadyrov, apart from showing off, was not marked by anything. And in general, the Akhmat regiment is the National Guard. They do not storm, but clean up (that is, they work in settlements liberated by the RF Armed Forces).
      1. -3
        January 12 2023
        Quote from invisible_man
        They do not storm, but clean up (that is, they work in settlements liberated by the RF Armed Forces).

        Then it means that one regiment of the Chechen special forces Akhmat managed to neutralize the special forces of Ukraine and all NATO countries. It was on the sabotage and guerrilla war that the Armed Forces of Ukraine staked.
    2. 0
      January 12 2023
      create a General Headquarters under the control of Prigozhin, Kadyrov !!! There will be more sense, the NWO will go faster

      It's not about the headquarters, the successes are explained by the excellent training of the infantry, it is the infantry that takes the cities. But mass motorized rifles have poor training, therefore they cannot boast of success.
  5. -13
    January 11 2023
    It's not about heroic taking, it's about leaving. Elections are coming soon, trends are outlined.
  6. -9
    January 11 2023
    While Shoigu is shuffling the generals, Prigogine is taking the cities. soldier
    1. +5
      January 11 2023
      Quote: Al Manah
      While Shoigu is shuffling the generals, Prigogine is taking the cities. soldier

    2. -7
      January 11 2023
      Quote: Al Manah
      Prigozhin takes cities.

      So I see ... the body of the Hulk, an armored exoskeleton, in the hands of a 30-mm autocannon ... Prigogine's muzzle! Against the backdrop of the dilapidated Eiffel Tower!

    3. -6
      January 12 2023
      Quote: Al Manah
      Prigozhin takes cities

      Until the battles for Soledar are over. The Ukrainians there exchanged their territorial defense for experienced fighters of the Russian PMC who had experience of the war in Syria and Africa. Surely the Ukrainians were able to concentrate long-range self-propelled guns and MLRS around Soledar and they will try to stop the further offensive in this direction with artillery strikes with alternating short counterattacks.
      1. +3
        January 12 2023
        Something the exchange turned out to be very indecent, and they put a lot of mercenaries there, there are very few of our losses
  7. 0
    January 11 2023
    Quote: Murmur 55
    Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

    Quote from invisible_man
    You might think that our resources are endless. How many such Soledars are ahead? Everyone storm in the forehead? Or, perhaps, the newly minted commander will come up with something more interesting and more economical in terms of losses?

    that they brought a new manual?
    Well, after Soledar there will be Artemovsk, after Artemovsk, Seversk and Vugledar, then Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, and then all the steppes to the Dnieper ...
    1. 0
      January 11 2023
      And what else remains for them to do, they write what they will say, although it’s time and they already have their feet in their hands
    2. +1
      January 11 2023
      and where did the Donbass cities of Ugledar, Dobropolye, Kurakhovo, Selidovo, Krasnoarmeysk, Konstantinovka, Druzhkovka go??? and the Dnieper is "covered" by a number of Dnepropetrovsk cities, for example, like Pavlograd ...

      open the card at least in front of your "cleverness" ... like the voice of reason ... but he doesn't even know how to use Yandex
    3. -2
      January 12 2023
      Quote: voice of reason
      Well, after Soledar there will be Artemovsk, after Artemovsk, Seversk and Vugledar, then Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, and then all the steppes to the Dnieper ...

      ... and on the last street they read the name: Dnepropetrovsk street! ... By the time we get there, the city will fall into our hands - the Sumerians will try to jump over the Dnieper until the tail is pinched ...
  8. +13
    January 11 2023
    First city taken since June. The enemy is still at Sol station and on the western outskirts. But still, this is a success. Let it be tactical, as part of the generally insane breaking through the fortifications in the forehead in the Donbass, but a success.
    It is also very correct that there were no "humanitarian corridors". Either immediately captured or to Bandera.
    We must congratulate Wagner and all those involved - parts of the Airborne Forces, 6th regiment of the LPR, etc.
    1. +1
      January 12 2023
      Quote: Belisarius
      It is also very correct that there were no "humanitarian corridors". Either immediately captured or to Bandera.

      Exactly! And vsukam - immediately in the kidney!
  9. 0
    January 11 2023
    Quote: Murmur 55
    how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

    According to the experience of the war of 1941-45, this is not measured by cities, but only by the military potential of the enemy.

    For comparison, under Stalingrad, the losses of the Germans amounted to: more than 1.5 million people, up to 3500 tanks and assault guns, 12 thousand guns and mortars, up to 3 thousand aircraft. As I understand it, of these - the number of prisoners is 91545 people, of which 2500 officers, 23 generals and one field marshal. A source:
    https://dzen.ru/a/YcMy-kv-gWI98CkJ

    If we compare the population, then:
    1. In 1941 - the population of Germany: up to 117 million.
    2. In 2022 - the population of Ukraine is 41 million (35.04%).
    3. 1.5 million * 0.3504 = 525.6 thousand.
  10. +2
    January 11 2023
    Prigozhin, founder of Wagner PMC: Soledar is completely liberated and cleared from the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    . So if you think about it, look around and dig into history, PMCs of the city are not taken / released.
    In general, there are a lot of strange things in this STRANGE MILITARY OPERATION, we don’t call it that for nothing.
    1. +7
      January 12 2023
      Quote: rocket757
      to delve into history, PMCs of the city do not take / release.

      Victor, hi they just weren't called that.
      Ah, look "silently", so this is the most modern motivated, professional, well-armed and equipped combat unit, with iron discipline.
      And, we will leave the adjustment (role and place) of them in the state-legal structure to the heads of scientific departments ...
      1. +1
        January 12 2023
        Gennady soldier
        It is clear that in terms of mode of action, tactics, heavy assault infantry ... but in terms of structure, type and organization system, they are not fixated on exaggerated indicators, most importantly, the effectiveness of actions.
        However, the issues of organization both within the structure and interaction with the army and other units are hidden from us ... but this is not so important, against the background of how effectively they work.
        1. 0
          January 12 2023
          they are not fixated on exaggerated indicators, the main thing is the effectiveness of actions.

          PMCs definitely do not march, do not stuff edgings, do not keep a magazine for registering magazines.


  11. 0
    January 11 2023
    Especially for those who are talking about the humanitarian corridor.
    1. -3
      January 11 2023
      Are you sure that Prigozhin is so independent in this regard?
      1. +3
        January 11 2023
        Question ... what's the difference?
        I’ll add a question ... have you ever heard, read, about someone independent, independent, at least in some plans, aspects, when very big, specific guys are interested in the game, in one way or another take part ???
        To believe in such "miracles" one must be very naive.
      2. +1
        January 12 2023
        Quote: AlexTires
        Are you sure that Prigozhin is so independent in this regard?

        And I'm kind of in the ear, what kind of independence he has. He fights in a business-like manner, gives everyone a chance, does the job well - what else do you need? His bashi-bouzouki take the unstoppable on the forehead, allowing our soldiers and officers to learn how to survive at the cost of their lives! It would be necessary to expand its powers, within the framework of course, but to expand and help. The country is full of people sitting on the bunk, and many could try to return to life in a new capacity, having passed through the crucible of Wagner ...
    2. +3
      January 12 2023
      Cleaning up the mines: isn't it possible to save the lives of the Wagnerites by releasing gas, at least amusing? Let them tear at the end ...
  12. +7
    January 11 2023
    Congratulations on your success to both the Orchestra and the Chief! Well done!
  13. +4
    January 11 2023
    Big victory on the account of Wagner and Prigogine
    1. +3
      January 12 2023
      Quote from Carlos Sala
      Big victory on the account of Wagner and Prigogine

      By the way, this is the first sign confirming that "Russians harness for a long time, but they drive fast."
      I remember how quickly the Chechens harnessed (God bless them, well done) putting up tens of thousands of fighters ... but the PMCs in Soledar have so far eclipsed everyone. good
  14. +7
    January 11 2023
    Congratulations guys, respect and no loss in the future! Separate respect to Prigozhin for this: there can be no talk of a humanitarian corridor for prisoners.
  15. -5
    January 11 2023
    Now the most important thing is that the rumors about the allegedly being prepared golden bridge for the Armed Forces of Ukraine would not be confirmed
  16. -6
    January 11 2023
    Private military companies.
    They are slowly replacing the Russian Army. Guerrilla pancake war.
  17. Two
    -10
    January 11 2023
    Why are you happy that the city was liberated by PMCs, and where is our glorious army. The PMC earns its money by performing the tasks assigned to it as it should be. Summarize the results of our military campaign for the year, they are deplorable, they didn’t even liberate Avdiivka, they shot and shoot at Donetsk. They impose lines of defense on us, in which we get stuck for a long time and maniacally take them head-on by storm. Now the commander has been changed, it will not end well.
    1. +5
      January 11 2023
      There is little joy from the civil war .. And at the front, everyone performs their functions, for example, the NVO group near Kremennaya extinguishes the offensive impulse of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and did not allow the transfer of military reserves and forced the transfer of strategic ones from across the river near Artemovsk-Soledar, which means that some kind of event at the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      1. +6
        January 12 2023
        20 oa 3 msd operates on the matchmaking-flint line, they also crush pigs there in large quantities
        1. +1
          January 12 2023
          Quote from kasy
          20 oa 3 msd operates on the matchmaking-flint line, they also crush pigs there in large quantities

          good For pigs! They didn’t make stew from such bulls! hi
  18. 0
    January 11 2023
    Quote: Two
    Why rejoice ... they impose lines of defense in which we get stuck for a long time and maniacally take them head-on by storm.

    You are right, but you also need to rejoice - any victory (albeit not so significant in general). However, any complete encirclement of part of the enemy troops is already a local success.

    Quote: Two
    Now the commander has been changed, it will not end well.

    In fact, instead of one, they put _many_ commanders (that is, deputies, who together form the headquarters of the front).
    Is it good? - depends on the tasks at hand (if there are too many of them, then Surovikin alone may not be able to cope).
  19. -3
    January 11 2023
    After the flight from Kherson, a terrible flight primarily due to the consequences for civilians, the first good news. But people have drunk so much grief that they no longer have the strength to rejoice. Tears and bitterness.
    Wagner of course, BEAUTIFUL!
    1. -1
      January 12 2023
      why flee? retreat and carried out simply brilliantly, will go into textbooks
  20. 0
    January 11 2023
    Now it would be good to strike somewhere in the Sumy region, for example, and gain a foothold there. In order to prevent the transfer of reinforcements to Artemovsk, Avdeevka because of the threat to Kyiv, as well as the loss of new territories. Finish off Bandera in Donbass. Then take up Kharkiv, Zaporozhye and Nikolaev regions with a subsequent exit to Odessa. But you need to use at least 40-50% of the army so as not to stagnate for months ..
    1. 0
      January 12 2023
      Quote: Traveler_2
      Now it would be good to strike somewhere in the Sumy region, for example, and gain a foothold there. In order to prevent the transfer of reinforcements to Artemovsk, Avdeevka because of the threat to Kyiv, as well as the loss of new territories. Finish off Bandera in Donbass. Then take up Kharkiv, Zaporozhye and Nikolaev regions with a subsequent exit to Odessa. But you need to use at least 40-50% of the army so as not to stagnate for months ..

      There is nothing simpler: you finish school, a military university, an academy and - forward, good luck, Goodbye Earth! "Why aren't you at the front?!"
  21. -4
    January 12 2023
    Quote: MonsterTank
    Prigozhin is the next president of Russia! Here you will see!


    - In the current status - the next President may not be ...
    In the event of some success (temporary and limited) in Ukraine, the Monarchy can be restored in Russia, with the Emperor at the head ....
    1. -1
      January 12 2023
      Quote: egorMTG
      in Russia, the Monarchy can be restored, with the Emperor at the head ....

      Emperor of the Kabaevs? I think Putin understands the stupidity of such a situation for his children and grandchildren. In general, the Novgorod Republic demonstrated its viability for 600 years, and the history of the House of Romanov barely crossed the 300-year milestone.
    2. 0
      January 12 2023
      Quote: egorMTG
      - In the current status - the next President may not be ...
      In the event of some success (temporary and limited) in Ukraine, the Monarchy can be restored in Russia, with the Emperor at the head ....

      Of course, I am FOR your assumption, because every normal monarch tries to transfer the state into normal hands, but I think there will still be a state council with a chairman ... Volfych said!
    3. -1
      January 12 2023
      Yes, Prigogine is old. Putin's place will be taken by Mishustin. Perfectly.
      I think that after the departure of the GDP, fierce squabbles and unrest will begin. And there anyone can jump on the throne.
      1. 0
        January 12 2023
        Shaw? Will the Poles occupy Moscow again? Where are the peasants to lure them to Ukraine?
  22. +1
    January 12 2023
    Quote: VladimirNET
    how many more such Soledars are needed ...?

    To the above, let's add an assessment of the battle near Moscow: the enemy lost more than 500 thousand people, 1,3 thousand tanks, 2,5 thousand guns killed, wounded and missing.

    1. In 1941 - the population of Germany: up to 117 million.
    2. In 2022 - the population of Ukraine is 41 million (35.04%).
    3. 500 thousand * 0.3504 = 175.2 thousand.

    Losses of Ukraine on 01.12.2022/200/XNUMX - together with the wounded (and missing) can be estimated at XNUMX thousand, source:
    https://military.pravda.ru/news/1783051-poteri/
  23. +5
    January 12 2023
    Prigozhin stressed that there can be no talk of a humanitarian corridor for prisoners.
    That's right, the more gum corridors, the more dill fortresses later
  24. -6
    January 12 2023
    It is necessary to say not Soledar, but use the correct Soviet name - Karlo-Liebknekhtovsk!
  25. 0
    January 12 2023
    War is horror but there was no choice. Zelensky is truly a psychopath
  26. -2
    January 12 2023
    NO, I'm not a sadist, a simple Soviet engineer. A lot of faulty equipment, with the possibility of repair by electric welding on the spot. To provide energy, fit a pair of diesel sheds 50-100 kW. And the exhaust? Where will his wind, the temperature difference bring, an accident?!!!!
  27. +3
    January 12 2023
    Previously, there were many Soviet and then Russian militants where the main character was an Afghan. After the SVO, the Wagnerites will go.
    When time passes, Russian militants will go where the main characters of the Wagnerites will appear ... who are especially motivated and prepared ... who came to civilian life and faced injustice ... banditry and corruption
  28. +1
    January 12 2023
    Finally, a hero-leader appeared in this war.
    Evgeny Prigogine.
    While Shoigu concludes grain deals, the generals change chairs, he is at war.
  29. 0
    January 12 2023
    Quote from Johnson Smithson
    In the telegram channel Wagner, tankers talk about the goal: "destroy the enemy as much as possible"

    and what is wrong? the goal of the NWO is demilitarization, this is the destruction of the enemy army,
    those who do not want to fight, they surrender and they are not destroyed


    - Never heard the World * wisdom * - The people cannot be defeated!...
  30. 0
    January 12 2023
    Quote: Digger
    Previously, there were many Soviet and then Russian militants where the main character was an Afghan. After the SVO, the Wagnerites will go.
    When time passes, Russian militants will go where the main characters of the Wagnerites will appear ... who are especially motivated and prepared ... who came to civilian life and faced injustice ... banditry and corruption


    - And no one is surprised that in today's militants, law enforcement officers are either powerless or act on the opposite side ...
  31. 0
    January 12 2023
    Quote: isv000
    Quote: egorMTG
    - In the current status - the next President may not be ...
    In the event of some success (temporary and limited) in Ukraine, the Monarchy can be restored in Russia, with the Emperor at the head ....

    Of course, I am FOR your assumption, because every normal monarch tries to transfer the state into normal hands, but I think there will still be a state council with a chairman ... Volfych said!


    - This is not a proposal.. this is my *layout*. And Wolfych has always been a fierce monarchist. From time to time he let out trial bubbles: - how people will react - collapse them, or admire their iridescent radiance ...
    - What role he assigned himself under the Monarchy - we will not know ... It turns out that everything has its logical end.
  32. 0
    January 12 2023
    Quote: NAF-NAF
    And what about Nazi collaborators at the top? In our? Dressing up as patriots, but acting into the hands of the enemy?


    - You have to figure it out. And never ignore...
  33. 0
    January 12 2023
    Quote: gsev
    Quote: egorMTG
    in Russia, the Monarchy can be restored, with the Emperor at the head ....

    Emperor of the Kabaevs? I think Putin understands the stupidity of such a situation for his children and grandchildren. In general, the Novgorod Republic demonstrated its viability for 600 years, and the history of the House of Romanov barely crossed the 300-year milestone.


    - Such *stupidity* will allow him to rule forever....without fear and continuing in heirs.
    - The whole plankton will be very happy. Until now, foolishly appropriated the titles of princes, nobles, counts - will receive legislative consolidation from the Duma. And the Palace, which is being completed near Geledzhik, will be presented to the Court of His Imperial Majesty, on the occasion of the inauguration, as the greatest philanthropic gift from the noble Baron ....
  34. 0
    January 12 2023
    Prigozhin, founder of Wagner PMC: Soledar is completely liberated and cleared from the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    . Part of the job done, to be continued!!!
  35. +2
    January 12 2023
    Here I watch TV news, our silence, Ukrainians, as usual, are also in our style - we win! It turns out that they took Prigozhin, but there is silence in the official? What do we have like...!
  36. -1
    January 12 2023
    "General Armageddon" - senior: Why the West is afraid of the Russian commander Valery Gerasimov
    11.01.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX Head of the Ministry of Defense Shoigu appointed Gerasimov commander of the united group of troops. Before the advent of "General Armageddon" Surovikin, it was Gerasimov who was the main fear of NATO.
    Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu appointed Valery Gerasimov, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, commander of a group of forces in the zone of a special military operation. He instilled fear in NATO long before "General Armageddon" Sergei Surovikin appeared on the scene.
    Valery Gerasimov came to the attention of the foreign press back in 2013, after he published his thoughts on military science in the weekly Russian newspaper Military Industrial Courier. The material was devoted to the concept of "hybrid warfare".
    In the XNUMXst century, there is a tendency to blur the distinction between the state of war and peace. Wars are no longer declared, and when they start, they do not go according to the pattern we are used to,
    - Valery Gerasimov's reflections, which have become prophetic, say. Back in February 2013, the general pointed out that asymmetric actions were widespread. These include the use of special operations forces and internal opposition to create a permanent front on the entire territory of the opposing state, as well as informational influence, the forms and methods of which are constantly being improved. Subsequent events demonstrated the correctness of the general.
  37. -1
    January 12 2023
    Here, without sarcasm and hints, how many more such Soledars will be needed to break the back of the neo-Nazis?

    If without sarcasm, then Russia today has more than 150 million people, and Ukraine has no more than 25 million.
    The difference is more than 6 times. If the worst case is accepted, that the Russian losses are not less than the Ukrainian ones, then the victory of the Russians leaves no doubts.
    The only question is about the motivation to endure losses among the Ukrainians. Time and loss of both sides depend on this. If they can endure another 100 casualties, then the battle will drag on for another few months.
    Foreign mercenaries are few (several thousand) on both sides and they will not change the course of the battles.
  38. 0
    January 12 2023
    Well done soldiers! There has been no good news for a long time.
  39. 0
    January 13 2023
    Thank you, guys. Wagner heroes, real iron assault infantry.
    Quote from lowwar
    Are you sure that you will not nazis, as in ukre? Or do you have such a purely "English approach" - to cover up as many people as possible with blood and arrange genocide. In fact, many Slavs live there. The purpose of the SVO is denazification. After such statements, the troops there will be replenished with volunteers. Provocateur!

    And you, you see, from the Christos. Do you want to love everyone? There are no peaceful people there. All cattle are bloodthirsty. There is no one to pity

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