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Arestovich said that "Nobody needs Soledar"

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Arestovich said that "Nobody needs Soledar"

Aleksey Arestovich, adviser to the office of the President of Ukraine, said that the liberation of the city of Soledar by Russian troops is absolutely pointless and will not bring any benefit.


According to the propagandist known for his unfulfilled predictions, "the capture of the destroyed city will not bring any benefit to Russia" and did not give any results, except for losses and a media effect.

The day before, when confirmation had already appeared from the curator of the PMC "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin about the complete liberation and cleansing of the city, Arestovich told his audience on his stream that the situation with the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Soledar was not critical and the city was "only taken in the floor ring" .

Now, when it has become clear even to the most unpretentious audience that Soledar is finally and irrevocably lost to the Kyiv regime and the colossal losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during many months of attempts to hold the city turned out to be in vain, Arestovich is trying in every way to mitigate the media effect from another victory of the RF Armed Forces and claims that the capture of Soledar meaningless. The question arises: why did the Armed Forces of Ukraine try to keep him for several months?

According to analysts, the liberation of Soledar will entail a "domino effect" and the loss of Kyiv's entire defense line on the line Seversk - Soledar - Artemovsk. The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, regardless of the losses, sends more and more forces to the area of ​​the "Artyomovskaya meat grinder", however, after the retreat of Ukraine from Soledar, the fate of Artyomovsk is a foregone conclusion.
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  1. dmi.pris1
    dmi.pris1 11 January 2023 11: 55
    +10
    The Soviet legacy will do for anyone. But does anyone need Lucy?
    1. credo
      credo 11 January 2023 12: 09
      +17
      Aleksey Arestovich, adviser to the office of the President of Ukraine, said that the liberation of the city of Soledar by Russian troops is absolutely pointless

      The thought of the meaning of meaninglessness is meaningless, because the meaning of meaninglessness lies in its meaninglessness, and understanding meaninglessness renders meaninglessness meaningless. love
      1. KAV
        KAV 11 January 2023 12: 48
        +4
        “Actually, there is no case. The activity itself contains the self.
        affairs and vice versa. On the contrary, we get a turn on, and thus turn over
        image. I'm not talking about the nature of speaking in gender already.
        Snakes and ties - do you understand me, Mr. Anderson?
        “Of course I thought so, Smith. Let's get some more... wassat
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 11 January 2023 12: 10
      +5
      In the zone, be sure to be useful to anyone, for intimate conversations.
      1. Leshak
        Leshak 11 January 2023 12: 40
        +7
        Quote: Alexander 3
        In the zone, be sure to be useful to anyone, for intimate conversations.

        The ability to change into women's clothes will also come in handy in the zone. In this form, it will be very "popular"! lol
    3. Invoce
      Invoce 11 January 2023 12: 25
      +11
      Arestovich said that "Nobody needs Soledar"

      These characters will soon say that nobody needs Ukraine and its people. Waste material. Money, relatives all in Miami, USA. All, Curtain
      1. old
        old 11 January 2023 12: 40
        +5
        These characters will soon say that nobody needs Ukraine and its people.

        Let's not rush things. Let him first say that they do not need Artyomovsk. Well, or Bakhmut - anyway.
    4. ABC-schutze
      ABC-schutze 11 January 2023 13: 35
      +1
      Nothing. "Don't need" so don't need...

      The time will come, he will say the same about Kyiv ...
    5. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 11 January 2023 13: 51
      0
      so Lucy himself is a Soviet heritage-1975 onwards. laughing
  2. BartoszPL
    BartoszPL 11 January 2023 11: 56
    -23
    The attacker always suffers heavy losses. Respect for Wagner, but where are the professional soldiers? They have full-time jobs, retirement at age 18, housing loans. Where are they? It's a shame. Prisoners and miners of Donbass fight better
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 11 January 2023 12: 04
      +5
      headless?..............................
    2. s9883300
      s9883300 11 January 2023 12: 06
      +1
      Why not retire in 15 years, see what you write
    3. Elena Akinfieva
      Elena Akinfieva 11 January 2023 12: 07
      0
      You were deceived, not always.,..........
    4. Vyacheslav57
      Vyacheslav57 11 January 2023 12: 08
      +7
      miners of Donbass fight better

      After 9 years of continuous fighting, there are no more miners left, there are professional soldiers.
      but where are the professional soldiers?

      Everyone is fighting in their own sectors of the front, or do you need to report by name and in which sector?
    5. saigon
      saigon 11 January 2023 12: 09
      +5
      With superiority in artillery, the attacker suffers fewer losses, even though it depends on how to attack.
      Milok and whose the such experiences? And where does the miners and ZK? Well, explain to me what does professional soldiers and screams of shame have to do with it?
    6. Stepan S
      Stepan S 11 January 2023 12: 11
      +5
      The attacker always takes big losses

      It all depends on the tactics of warfare. there no one went on the attack in full-length chains. The city was taken for a long time and carefully for a long time and with an overwhelming fire advantage.
    7. Andrey Andreev_2
      Andrey Andreev_2 11 January 2023 12: 21
      -4
      Have you tried to serve? Sofa stuffed animal!
      1. Smoker
        Smoker 11 January 2023 12: 25
        +7
        Quote: Andrey Andreev_2
        Have you tried to serve? Sofa stuffed animal!

        This eccentric from Poland .. they will soon send him a summons .. The United States has prepared the role of a battering ram for all Ukrainians, Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, in other words, he will go for meat ..
    8. Giza1991
      Giza1991 11 January 2023 12: 35
      +1
      Motivation drives them. What are PMCs, What are miners
  3. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 11 January 2023 11: 59
    +9
    The grapes are green, said the fox, when she could not reach him, and so she comforted herself.
  4. Tochilka
    Tochilka 11 January 2023 12: 11
    +7
    Wow "no effect". The Artemsol enterprise supplied 90% of salt to the Ukrainian market. In economic terms, this city is very important. Was.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 11 January 2023 12: 12
    0
    Arestovich said that "Nobody needs Soledar"
    . Come on, they will say that for a long time and everyone understands ... their "record" does not change.
  6. BartoszPL
    BartoszPL 11 January 2023 12: 13
    -1
    Wagner's boss said his goal was not to conquer territory, but to kill Ukrainian soldiers and destroy their reserves. If this is true, then the battles for Soledar and Bakhmut are imitation battles, and Russia will carry out a real strike in February (depending on the weather). Probably, this will be an attack on the rear of the Donbass from Zaporozhye. Possible attack along the Vorskla River
    1. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 11 January 2023 12: 24
      +1
      Quote from BartoszPL
      Wagner's boss said his goal was not to conquer territory, but to kill Ukrainian soldiers and destroy their reserves. If this is true, then the battles for Soledar and Bakhmut are imitation battles, and Russia will carry out a real strike in February (depending on the weather). Probably, this will be an attack on the rear of the Donbass from Zaporozhye. Possible attack along the Vorskla River

      What's the difference to you? "Nezdohliki" die or not; are these fights imitation or not; there will be a main offensive or not, you need to find out in order to report it, or why are you so stupid? Arestovich and Zelensky are talking all sorts of crap, but you are not surprised by this.
    2. shikin
      shikin 11 January 2023 15: 48
      +1
      The military theorist Clausewitz wrote about this in the 19th century: "Victory consists not simply in capturing the battlefield, but in the physical and moral crushing of the enemy's armed forces." By the way, he fought in the Russian army against the French.
      And simply capturing territory without defeating the enemy army makes little sense.
      1. Wayfarer_2
        Wayfarer_2 11 January 2023 16: 37
        0
        Capturing territory always makes a lot of sense. In most wars, their goal was precisely the seizure of territory. Because it means the capture of fertile lands, forests, water resources, enterprises, natural resources, and human resources as well, i.e. work force. It has always been so. If the enemy army gave you the territory of the country and ran away, you won. Because you were going to seize someone else's territory and resources, and not destroy someone else's army. Someone else's army go to destroy when it creates problems. For example, she herself carries out attacks, raids, etc. In the hall of the capture of a wonderful territory, it is destroyed only so that it does not interfere with the capture. They destroy someone else's army even when it has captured your territory, and you want to free it. Why does Prigozhin say that he came to destroy the Ukrainian army? Because this is the Nazi army. She creates problems by her very existence. In addition, PMC "Wagner" is a private military company. She doesn't need anyone's territory. The meaning of its existence is precisely in the destruction of the armed forces, incl. and enemy PMCs.
        1. shikin
          shikin 12 January 2023 00: 12
          +1
          If the enemy army is not defeated, then the seizure of territory is only for a while, often for a short time. Until the fighting is over, it is premature to talk about the seizure of territory and their use. Everything can change 10 times.
  7. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 11 January 2023 12: 15
    +2
    The attacker always suffers heavy losses.

    There is no such rule. Especially if the attacker has superior firepower, and the defender is constantly throwing up reinforcements and conducting counterattacks.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 11 January 2023 12: 15
    +1
    And with what salt does Alesya recommend eating up a member of a pig boar? wassat
    1. Tochilka
      Tochilka 11 January 2023 12: 41
      0
      Lvovskaya. There are salt mines in the region. But they are few.
  9. bober1982
    bober1982 11 January 2023 12: 17
    0
    If you pay attention to those books that Arestovich has on the shelf behind him, then we can say that in his head, of course, complete confusion, it turns out to be a big fan of intellectual travels to the country of Philosophy and even, Pikul, perhaps the novel Unclean Force
    Like one well-known movie character Afonya, who managed to do everything - fight at dances, and swim in fountains. So Arestovich, and a propagandist, and a philosopher, and a strategist, and Lucy to be.
  10. Silver99
    Silver99 11 January 2023 12: 20
    +7
    Lyusya voiced all the abomination of Ukraine, leaving behind complete devastation, they do not own anything, so there is no need.
  11. Arifon
    Arifon 11 January 2023 12: 20
    +5
    "A Ukrainian serviceman, whose name CNN does not name, told American journalists that the Ukrainian troops in Soledar have already stopped counting the number of casualties, since their number is so large that there is simply no one and no time to count."
    If you don't need Soledar, what were all these sacrifices for?
  12. Tagan
    Tagan 11 January 2023 12: 20
    +1
    Quote: Nastia Makarova
    headless?..............................

    Almost. Latvian.
  13. evgen1221
    evgen1221 11 January 2023 12: 22
    +5
    Hmm, the typical psychology of the temporary workers of the rukopopov. And supposedly, we didn’t really need this city. (After this city was liberated from them). They will also say a hundred not very much and Ukraine was needed. Well, if you don’t really need it, then why did they put a table of the people, why did they roll the city into rubble? If they left themselves, the inhabitants would thank you.
  14. alexey_444
    alexey_444 11 January 2023 12: 23
    -12
    There will be no dominoes, and yes, the soledar itself does not cost anything, the price is in recycled dill and equipment. Unfortunately, the enemy’s strong reconnaissance, weakness, i.e., the lack of automated control systems we have and the saturation of the battlefield with weapons does not allow us to conduct raids, encircle fortified areas, so there will be a methodical frontal offensive.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 11 January 2023 12: 35
      +5
      Soledar was part of the well-fortified defense line of Seversk-Soledar-Artemovsk, and the capture of this city opens up the possibility of reaching the flank and rear of other units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which in turn will create a serious threat for them. If it doesn't cost anything, then what does it matter?
  15. pariarg
    pariarg 11 January 2023 12: 24
    0
    PR genius!
    All according to the precepts of the founding fathers of the so-called "Ukraine" in 1917.
  16. opuonmed
    opuonmed 11 January 2023 12: 27
    0
    Yes, your do not care Lucy at least that can carry!
  17. Uprun
    Uprun 11 January 2023 12: 30
    +3
    Let him tell his mothers in his rear that thousands of heroes laid their heads for a worthless city ...., Tomorrow worthless Artemovsk, after tomorrow Kramatorsk and Slavyansk do not represent anything for the outskirts ..... A philosophical question, why did they resist so much? Get off already just from the useless Donbass and further down the list, there is Russian land, we don’t need someone else’s.
  18. 1razvgod
    1razvgod 11 January 2023 12: 39
    -5
    Lucy, of course, is a balabol, trying to put on a good face with bad news. Will there be a domino effect or not, but Artemovsk, an area of ​​​​41 km, was stormed for 8 months, if you look at Kharkov, for example, 350 km, you have to think. Well, the mention of analysts about the domino effect is a game, enough of all the analysts from Yurchik Podlyak to the English unknown Jane
  19. ximkim
    ximkim 11 January 2023 12: 41
    0
    Aleksey Arestovich, adviser to the office of the President of Ukraine, said that the liberation of the city of Soledar by Russian troops is absolutely pointless and will not bring any benefit.

    Well, depending on what angle you look at the account of the future city.
    Now the city is destroyed, it will be chased by the media (and then Western ones).
  20. Last centurion
    Last centurion 11 January 2023 12: 47
    +3
    I propose to play this video to the captured ukrams from Soledar, you see, they will return from the exchange of prisoners and they will find Arestovich themselves (+)
  21. Chronos
    Chronos 11 January 2023 12: 50
    +2
    Once again to the question that xxxls get everything they talk about. "They will no longer take a single city" (c) Arestovich.
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  23. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 11 January 2023 12: 57
    +3
    Arestovich said that "Nobody needs Soledar"
    Why didn't you just leave if you don't need it?
    1. Kurganets-45
      Kurganets-45 11 January 2023 13: 18
      -2
      it’s scary to imagine their losses if they so stubbornly threw their armed forces there for the “unnecessary Soledar”, what will happen when they defend Kyiv, although with such losses, the male population of Ukraine will end much earlier.
  24. Authority
    Authority 11 January 2023 15: 20
    0
    Quote from BartoszPL
    The attacker always suffers heavy losses. Respect for Wagner, but where are the professional soldiers? They have full-time jobs, retirement at age 18, housing loans. Where are they? It's a shame. Prisoners and miners of Donbass fight better

    And when in Ukraine everyone was released from prison (regardless of the articles) and forcibly sent to the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - was it not a SHAME? ))
    Shame only when in PMCs on the side of the Russian Federation, there are volunteers from prisoners (according to a number of articles)?

    ZIPS, what's with the face?
  25. Two
    Two 11 January 2023 15: 56
    0
    In a certain sense, he is right, time does not work for us. Summarize the results of our military campaign for the year, they are deplorable, they didn’t even liberate Avdiivka, they shot and shoot in Donetsk. The answer is obvious to me (we do not have an invading army, the size of our army is small, for the task that was assigned to it), it must be increased. They impose lines of defense on us, in which we get stuck for a long time.
  26. All_Good
    All_Good 12 January 2023 10: 11
    0
    Why was it then to protect him and put so many people? There is no point in listening to Arestovich, they are dancing from the stove
  27. Stepan S
    Stepan S 12 January 2023 16: 21
    0
    Soledar is the largest salt deposits in all of Europe. But why should Lucy think about it.