The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine completely ignored the loss of Soledar, "forgetting" to mention it in the morning summary

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The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine completely ignored the loss of Soledar, "forgetting" to mention it in the morning summary

The capture by Russian troops of one of the most important defense centers of the Ukrainian group in the Donbass is completely ignored by Kyiv, neither the office of the President of Ukraine nor the Ministry of Defense even remembered the loss of Soledar. In the morning summary of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there is not even a mention of this city, although yesterday the representatives of the command menacingly puffed out their cheeks and promised victory, despite the fact that the first units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to leave the city territory.

The fact that Soledar came under Russian control was announced by the founder of Wagner PMC Evgeny Prigozhin, who personally visited the city last night. The fighting in the city continues, the city blocks are being cleared of the remaining representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who did not want to surrender. It is emphasized that only the "iron-sided" Wagner participated in the storming of the city, there were no other units.



Thus, on the morning of January 11, 2023, the city of Soledar came under the control of the Russian army, but this fact is ignored in Ukraine. Zelensky simply "forgot" about the existence of this city, continuing to broadcast something about the "victory of world democracy", and there is no mention of it in the summary of the General Staff. There are repulsed attacks in the area of ​​​​Bakhmut (Artemovsk), but not about Soledar. They don’t like to talk about defeats in Kyiv, so if there was any victory, even a small one, they would inflate such a victory out of it that they would be surprised in Washington.

One Arestovich admitted that Soledar was taken by the Russians, but even here the prefix “but”, which is familiar to us, is often present in the “predictions” of the adviser to the head of Zelensky’s office. According to him, the Russians took the city, but this will not bring them any benefit, since it was just a PR campaign, the task of which was to show that the Russian army "is capable of taking cities." That is, according to Arestovich, having taken Mariupol, Lisichansk and many other cities, the Russian army did not convince Kyiv of such an ability, Soledar had to be taken as well. And Bakhmut takes, according to the logic of the representative of the office, to show the ability to take two cities in a row?
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    1. +15
      January 11 2023
      It is desirable that they forget about this city forever
      1. +25
        January 11 2023
        Personally, I like this tactic of the Ukrainian media of hushing up losses, I hope they will keep silent this year about the loss of Odessa, Nikolaev, Ochakov and the departure from Kherson.
        1. -12
          January 11 2023
          Personally, I like this tactic of the Ukrainian media of hushing up losses
          Do you also like the same tactics of the Russian media? Or do I see it here and don't see it here?
          1. +4
            January 11 2023
            of course, no one from the people likes it .... and we are the people. Nobody likes to admit their mistakes, such is a sinful person. It is necessary that the leadership of the country not only in sorrow turn to the people "help", but also in high and joy do not forget to share with the very people who are the basis of their well-being. We are not here to beat ourselves with batogs, but to criticize our own ... but we need to beat our enemies! And any of their cant is not compared with ours, but left purely by their defeat and cant!
          2. +1
            January 11 2023
            The main thing here is to achieve a result, I personally don’t listen to Konashenkov, for me it’s not in a hurry to move forward, and verbal husks inspire no one, this is the background of the wind.
          3. -2
            January 11 2023
            Quote: Trapp1st
            Personally, I like this tactic of the Ukrainian media of hushing up losses
            Do you also like the same tactics of the Russian media? Or do I see it here and don't see it here?

            Don't put salt on sugar...!
        2. +1
          January 11 2023
          Still, take Kyiv, throw back the ukrofascists 150 km from the right bank of the Dnieper and you can take a break ... IMHO hi
        3. -3
          January 11 2023
          Most likely, important people left the city on time. Well, the rest will change. During the regrouping, they scored, exchanges almost every week. For only one godfather, they will hush up how much they gave.
      2. +2
        January 11 2023
        The population controlled by Kyiv learns all the reports from the fields not from arresters, molars or zaluzhny, but from the Internet and news from the fronts through the wounded and commissioned, so there is no point in blaming the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is completely under the control of the Anglo-Saxons and gives only the information that they will be shown.
        1. +3
          January 11 2023
          Quote: credo
          The population controlled by Kyiv learns all the reports from the fields not from arresters, molars or zaluzhny, but from the Internet and news from the fronts through the wounded and commissioned, so there is no point in blaming the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is completely under the control of the Anglo-Saxons and gives only the information that they will be shown.

          They give out only the information that they like best, and does not detract from them in the eyes of the West. They have piled on a bunch of people for a long time, and they only remember it when it is necessary to carry out the next mobilization.
    2. -6
      January 11 2023
      so what??? don’t you remind me how General Konashenkov reacted to the surrender of Balakleya, Izyum and Kupyansk? He was silent for three days, and then announced a "planned regrouping" ...
      1. +6
        January 11 2023
        Are you so stupid that you are not able to understand that Konashenkov is a speaker, and not a speechwriter on reports? Or do you just want to poke a military man, additionally distorting his rank?
      2. +2
        January 11 2023
        He is both a master of sports and a lieutenant general, and what can you boast of!
        He is a performer and in vain you “drive off” to him! There is a war and no one has canceled the information war! This is MO policy!
        And, how many fakes on him, that sometimes you can’t tell the truth from lies!
        Only, now they are starting to remove the secrecy stamp from documents about the Second World War, and even then not from everyone.
    3. +17
      January 11 2023

      These are the pictures that recently walked on the telegram channels of the stoned.
      1. -3
        January 11 2023
        These are the pictures that recently walked on the telegram channels of the stoned.
        Well, if formally, then Soledar remained in the same place where he stood)
        1. +3
          January 11 2023
          Well, it’s like, they won’t hand it over under any circumstances)).
          1. -5
            January 11 2023
            Well, you understood that))
            There will be no Soledar, there will be no Ukraine
            It’s not like a word about surrender))
      2. +6
        January 11 2023
        everything is written correctly, because there will be no "Ukraine"!
      3. +6
        January 11 2023
        Quote: South Ukrainian
        These are the pictures that recently walked on the telegram channels of the stoned.

        Here they must be given their due - they did not lie "neither saltar, nor vkraini."
      4. -2
        January 11 2023
        Quote: South Ukrainian
        These are the pictures that recently walked on the telegram channels of the stoned.

        It's a sin to mock when they themselves have a stigma in a cannon. Everyone has already forgotten how the hoh-hey in Kherson tore off banners with the inscriptions "Russia does not abandon its own." It was embarrassing to the point of pain.
        And well done to Wagner, famously finished the final chord in Soledar. Decisively, quickly and competently.
    4. +6
      January 11 2023
      Well, it’s starting, let’s look at the Western media. They have already shown fields littered with unknown corpses. They try everything on themselves, we crashed a thermal power plant in Ukraine, they are trying to understand what will happen if such a thermal power plant fails in Hannover.
      1. +2
        January 11 2023
        they, bastards, sit in greenhouse conditions, the climate is much milder there, so the Nazis will survive, alas. But problems will begin when medium and small enterprises begin to close - this is where unemployment can shake the foundations of Germany.
      2. 0
        January 11 2023
        Quote: tralflot1832
        They try everything on themselves, we crashed a thermal power plant in Ukraine, they are trying to understand what will happen if such a thermal power plant fails in Hannover.

        You can remind, otherwise the memory will kick off the beginning:
    5. -2
      January 11 2023
      They reproach that in the reports of the Armed Forces of Ukraine they did not say anything about the loss of Soledar, and our Defense Ministry announced the capture of this city? And in general, there are still battles going on there, which means that the city has not yet been completely taken. They write some nonsense.
      1. -2
        January 11 2023
        and our MO announced the capture of this city?
        only the "iron-sided" Wagner participated in the storming of the city, there were no other units.
        And what about the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? Prigogine announced.
        1. -1
          January 11 2023
          Quote: Trapp1st
          and our MO announced the capture of this city?
          only the "iron-sided" Wagner participated in the storming of the city, there were no other units.
          And what about the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? Prigogine announced.


          So, after all, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not some commander of a unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is accused of keeping silent about this fact. That is, the officials of Ukraine.
          1. -5
            January 11 2023
            and not some commander of a unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
            I think Prigozhin will not appreciate if you attribute Wagner to a unit of the RF Armed Forces, as well as if the RF Armed Forces attribute Wagner's successes to themselves.
            1. 0
              January 11 2023
              Quote: Trapp1st
              and not some commander of a unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
              I think Prigozhin will not appreciate if you attribute Wagner to a unit of the RF Armed Forces.



              You really don't understand the difference between officials and everyone else?
              1. -3
                January 11 2023
                You really don't understand the difference between officials
                I just understand the difference between face of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and of. the face of Wagner. Prigozhin announced, then it was the turn of the others.
                1. -2
                  January 11 2023
                  Quote: Trapp1st
                  You really don't understand the difference between officials
                  I just understand the difference between face of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and of. the face of Wagner. Prigozhin announced, then it was the turn of the others.


                  I see you don't understand anything. The reproach goes to the OFFICIAL persons of Ukraine, in particular, they denounce the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. So, I say that our OFFICIAL persons of the Ministry of Defense also did not make any statements. Prigozhin is not an official of the Moscow Region.
                  1. -4
                    January 11 2023
                    Prigozhin is not an official of the Moscow Region.
                    Bingo Cap!) therefore
                    MO also did not make any statements
                    1. -1
                      January 11 2023
                      Quote: Trapp1st
                      Prigozhin is not an official of the Moscow Region.
                      Bingo Cap!) therefore
                      MO also did not make any statements


                      Mdaaaa, how it all started ....
                      1. -3
                        January 11 2023
                        Mdaaaa, how it all started ....
                        We haven't started anything yet
          2. +3
            January 11 2023
            Well, then the Wagnerites are like PMCs? It can be seen under the signature Soledar of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has not yet been handed over. Acceptance work is not finished.
      2. 0
        January 11 2023
        So they already announced the capture three days ago. Did you go for the second round?
    6. -12
      January 11 2023
      Is there much left of that Soledar? A pile of broken bricks, concrete debris and charred wood?
      1. +6
        January 11 2023
        Soledar is the "gold mines" of salt, all Ukraine, Eastern Europe were supplied from there, and we bought a lot .... the best salt for salting products! Prigozhin is now also the "king of salt" by right! Handsome!
        1. -4
          January 11 2023
          Quote: Fisherman
          Soledar is the "gold mines" of salt, all Ukraine, Eastern Europe were supplied from there, and we bought a lot .... the best salt for salting products! Prigozhin is now also the "king of salt" by right! Handsome!



          Prigozhin privatized salt mining in Soledar? And you are definitely beautifulChvik)
        2. -2
          January 11 2023
          Quote: Fisherman
          Prigozhin is now also the "king of salt" by right! Handsome!

          I think it would be right, for his services to the Motherland, to give him these deposits with all the infrastructure.
      2. +3
        January 11 2023
        Quote from: Peter1First
        Is there much left of that Soledar? A pile of broken bricks, concrete debris and charred wood?


        Now it is more important that the line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is being destroyed. Powerful line of defense. This means that it becomes possible to go to the flanks and rear of other units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      3. +8
        January 11 2023
        Quote from: Peter1First
        Is there much left of that Soledar? A pile of broken bricks, concrete debris and charred wood?

        So what ? The main thing is the territory ... the value of this territory! And the city will be rebuilt! How many Soviet cities were destroyed "to the ground" during the Second World War? Rebuilt! And in the DPR, the destroyed Soledar is not the only one!
    7. +2
      January 11 2023
      The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine completely ignored the loss of Soledar, "forgetting" to mention it in the morning summary
      . Come on, this is no longer important, not key, not ... in general, it's clear.
      Nothing new in general.
      1. 0
        January 11 2023
        they have not yet decided how to declare it: as a zrada or as a victory.
    8. 0
      January 11 2023
      In the morning summary of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there is not even a mention of this city

      But the US State Department remembers. The auditors-inquisitors will soon descend from Washington. Oh, and feathers will fly from the heads of the Nazi junta.
      1. 0
        January 11 2023
        and feathers will fly from the heads of the Nazi junta
        Even if they change one for another, with the same result for us, we don't care request
    9. 0
      January 11 2023
      He just pretended it was the way it was meant to be. laughing
    10. 0
      January 11 2023
      now it remains to clean up the defense and further to Seversk and Slavyansk.
    11. +7
      January 11 2023
      Well, it's .. they didn't lose it? They just left the city to "regroup" to the next world!)
    12. -1
      January 11 2023
      Attention! Bitter truth.
      "The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine completely ignored the loss of Soledar ..."
      Most likely they are hoping for another regrouping.
      Why make a fuss in vain?
      And what is foul: ours gave them such hope.
      The myth about "once raised the Russian flag" was dispelled not by Ukrainians, but by ourselves.
      This is probably why ours are officially in no hurry to launch fireworks.
      We will celebrate after the work is done.
    13. +2
      January 11 2023
      "The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine completely ignored the loss of Soledar"
      And that's not true. It was very interesting yesterday to follow the chronology of the messages "of each side", the content and figures.
      1. At about midnight, a message from the Wagnerites about the encirclement of "about 500 Armed Forces" in the center of Soledar
      2. In ukrosmi at 2 am: "It became known how many civilians are in Soledar. Now there are 523 people in Soledar. Some of them decided to leave now, but this is not possible due to intense hostilities." And a photo of a sad elderly aunt, in the dark, by a candle, peeling potatoes.
      3. In ukrosmi at 6 am: "Russia did not capture Soledar.
      As they say - read between the lines, draw conclusions;)
    14. +2
      January 11 2023
      In general, a useless city, thousands of heads of Bandera cattle were allowed to be slaughtered, thousands of disabled people galloped away on three legs, it was just like that.
      Banderovka, your tarasiki died and three hundred to no avail, Lyuska said so.
    15. 0
      January 11 2023
      Well, the dill didn’t say about the loss of the city, was it a shame for someone or got sick of it? Yes spit.....
    16. +2
      January 11 2023
      According to him, the Russians took the city, but this will not bring them any benefit, since it was just a PR campaign, the task of which was to show that the Russian army "is capable of taking cities."

      Well, what can I say? His job is like this. Lie. He himself does not know when he speaks the truth, when what needs to be said.
    17. 0
      January 11 2023
      Small town, less than 15 thousand inhabitants at the best of times, and how much blood has been shed. If they will fight for every settlement? How long will the SVO last?
      I think the value of the liberation of the town will be clear a little later, if it consolidates, further liberate Artemovsk, break through the defense line, disrupt supply routes, then yes.
      And if they kept as much as needed, they exhausted the Russian troops. And soon they will go on the offensive in other sectors of the front, and will there be a powerful regrouping again? Then what will be the value of this small workers' settlement??
      Time will soon show everything
      1. -1
        January 11 2023
        SVO to the last dryer ........................
      2. +1
        January 11 2023
        If they really are SO mediocre to put their forces and reserves for each town, then they will not be enough for a long time. The reason is that they are forced, regardless of losses, to cling to the media-covered cities as much as possible, even if in fact there is an empty pile of ruins. Otherwise, this disappoints the sponsors, as it dispels the myth of the invincibility of the Ukrainian army and the need to pump it with weapons in Western society. And we are simply guided by military expediency - to inflict maximum damage and losses on the enemy with our minimum losses, and quite successfully use their media addiction
    18. +2
      January 11 2023
      And in the Russian General Staff, Wagner's successes are not very replicated. They dislike Prigogine there
      1. +3
        January 11 2023
        Quote: Petio
        And in the Russian General Staff, Wagner's successes are not very replicated. They dislike Prigogine there
        Where will they love? It looks like this - an eccentric came, without a specialized education, without knowing the military regulations, and began to teach all the generals how to wage war. And not just to teach, but what is called the muzzle of a general and crawl on the map. Also periodically comparing their work and the work of the generals.
    19. +4
      January 11 2023
      "Kaufman....: " Petite ville , moins de 15000 habitants...Combien de sang a été versé....Combien de temps durera ..."
      La "valeur" d'une ville ne se juge pas seulement par le nombre d'habitants, exempl:
      Verdun
      160000 morts Francais
      140000 morts Allemands
      400000 blesses au total
      et...16 mois de combats!
      Pour une ville moins peuplée que Soledar.
      1. 0
        January 11 2023
        La "valeur" d'une ville ne se juge pas au nombre d'habitants, mais à la résilience de ses défenseurs.
        "Combien de sang a été versé ..." - eh bien, oui, mais combien de plus sera versé
    20. 0
      January 11 2023
      Quote: Trapp1st
      Personally, I like this tactic of the Ukrainian media of hushing up losses
      Do you also like the same tactics of the Russian media? Or do I see it here and don't see it here?

      What does like/dislike mean? There are ours and there are enemies - enemies are always bad. Is not it? Or you have not yet decided on the choice of "ours"?
    21. 0
      January 11 2023
      In the morning summary of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there is not even a mention of Soledar

      .. in the evening too. For Kyiv, the loss of 7 thousand of its fighters is a trifle.
    22. +1
      January 12 2023
      It is emphasized that only the "iron-sided" Wagner participated in the storming of the city, there were no other units.


      https://www.interfax.ru/russia/880288
      Moscow. January 11th. INTERFAX.RU - Russian units of the Airborne Forces (VDV) blocked Soledar from the north and south, assault troops are fighting in the city, said the official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, Igor Konashenkov.

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