A project of an inconspicuous and highly maneuverable jet strike UAV will be presented in Russia

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A project of an inconspicuous and highly maneuverable jet strike UAV will be presented in Russia

A project to create a new jet-powered strike unmanned aerial vehicle is being considered at JSC Military Industrial Corporation NPO Mashinostroeniya. The specialists of this organization plan to improve a number of characteristics and create highly maneuverable attack unmanned aerial vehicles that would be equipped with jet engines.

As stated in the report submitted by NPO Mashinostroeniya, to improve the aerodynamic characteristics drone planned by using a wing of complex shape, and takeoff and landing characteristics - by equipping the wing with adaptive mechanization of the leading and trailing edges.



The developers believe that such unmanned aerial vehicles will combine such useful properties as high maneuverability and low radar visibility. This will allow drones to bypass layered air defenses, evade fighter-interceptors and perform tasks that are now facing a manned attack aviation. The cost of manufacturing and maintaining UAVs is much lower than that of aircraft. The absence of a crew in the apparatus itself allows you to perform the most dangerous tasks without risking the lives of pilots.

An integrated layout with a ventral air intake will be taken as the basis for creating a new drone. The dimensions of such a UAV will be small, which will reduce the cost of the device, equip it with appropriate weapons and equipment.

It should be noted that the special military operation of the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine demonstrated the importance of unmanned aircraft in modern warfare and the need to improve existing and develop new drones that are in service with the Russian army.
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  1. +19
    10 January 2023 08: 22
    Project to create a new jet attack unmanned aerial vehicle are considering JSC "Military-Industrial Corporation NPO Mashinostroeniya".
    In fact, they are needed "yesterday"!
    Yes, and about the Hunter a lot and often peed, but now something is forgotten ...
    How does he hunt there?
    1. +17
      10 January 2023 08: 41
      Quote: Victor_B
      Project to create a new jet attack unmanned aerial vehicle are considering JSC "Military-Industrial Corporation NPO Mashinostroeniya".
      In fact, they are needed "yesterday"!
      Yes, and about the Hunter a lot and often peed, but now something is forgotten ...
      How does he hunt there?

      Exactly. The project of a new jet UAV. good
      What about the old project?
      Designers have long had to submit a design project of projects of superprojects.
      1. +5
        10 January 2023 10: 28
        Quote: Bearded
        What about the old project?

        Fuck the result! The main thing is the process! What is "Hunter"? When it is not known what is being done with the "Thunder"!
      2. +18
        10 January 2023 10: 33
        The time for news about PROJECTS has ended on 24.02.22
        It's time to send designers to production to set up, produce, control finished products.
        Now is the time for mass production, not experiments, unless, of course, this is an "atomic bomb".
      3. +7
        10 January 2023 11: 10
        Quote: Bearded
        What about the old project?
        Designers have long had to submit a design project of projects of superprojects.

        One gets the feeling that the main thing for them is the constant improvement of the project, without bringing the previous one to mind. Money comes in regularly, at the exit, only one looming prospect. It seems that they don’t sabotage, but the output is 0.
        1. -2
          11 January 2023 02: 20
          Yes, not so much money was allocated to them. And it's not so bad with UAVs, as some people think. They have already been in Syria, and they worked normally. And in Ukraine, from the very beginning, they were used to aim artillery. Another thing is that it was necessary to decide WHAT UAVs we need. Do not also forget that the best drone is a rocket :) And we are fine with them ...
      4. +1
        10 January 2023 14: 38
        Exactly. The project of a new jet UAV. good
        What about the old project?

        different companies make them, and Okhotnik, primarily to work in tandem with the Su-57, may already be using it, they don’t say anything about the details of the Su-57 operations in Ukraine
    2. +8
      10 January 2023 10: 36
      Quote: Victor_B
      Yes, and about the Hunter a lot and often peed, but now something is forgotten ...
      How does he hunt there?

      As in the film "An Ordinary Miracle" it was said about the "famous" hunter ...: "Hunting? No, he writes a book on how to hunt properly ..."
    3. +2
      10 January 2023 10: 53
      It seems that nothing from the word at all. """"
    4. +4
      10 January 2023 15: 04
      In my opinion, projects and their evolution are dictated not only by ideological necessity, but also by the availability of technologies ready here and now.

      A drone with a jet engine may turn out to be relevant, because they do well in our country ... Jet engines!
      Here are piston aircraft engines, like Rotax, Lycoming and the like, we have rarer birds than turbines. It wasn’t that it couldn’t be done, but there wasn’t much demand for domestic ones - so the water didn’t flow “under the lying stone”.
      Whatever the air project in the past, it’s entirely foreign engines on them in booklets ...

      Therefore, it is likely that for a mobilization type of drone it will be faster to assemble a jet version at the backlog of any of the enterprises in the engine building industry. Attention is paid to the turbo direction quite seriously: PD8, PD14, PD35, etc. Probably, there are fresh developments for small motors ... Well, the performance characteristics of a jet drone are better, higher speeds.
  2. +9
    10 January 2023 08: 23
    Kyzylam was presented on July 20, 2021, the first flight was on December 14, 2022.
  3. +9
    10 January 2023 08: 26
    A project to create a new jet-powered strike unmanned aerial vehicle is being considered at JSC Military Industrial Corporation NPO Mashinostroeniya.

    Again - great!
    Project to create projects... fellow
    Yes, there is a whole design organization attached. I understand that the feelings of local patriotism do not allow looking askance at this, but you need to have other ready-to-use products in the house ...
    It’s good that they are considering ... Otherwise, they would put it under a cloth and to hell with it until 2036 ...
    1. -4
      10 January 2023 08: 37
      Quote: yuriy55
      but in the house you need to have others ready for use

      Do you have pitchforks ready for use as intended? laughing

      1. 0
        11 January 2023 00: 26
        go to the military enlistment office as a volunteer. from there you will write a lot. You saw such UAVs live there. This is not a box to watch from the sofa. "and we have everything!"
    2. +1
      15 January 2023 14: 54
      As in "Shirley-Myrley" ....: -Cabbage, mom, it's good, but you need to have other snacks in the house .."...
  4. +5
    10 January 2023 08: 32
    The project is great! The point is small - expand production! Yes, such that it is completely import-independent!
    1. +9
      10 January 2023 10: 12
      Quote: kaufman
      The project is great!

      And don't speak. The project is not only great, it's just great.
      And then I sinfully already missed such news. With the words "project, announcement, plan, program, idea, concept, in the future, is being considered, will be soon" ... Well, as always, the cherry on the cake is "unparalleled in the world."
      The question, of course, is when? When will all this be? As soon as possible. Right after the war is over.
    2. 0
      10 January 2023 10: 18
      Quote: kaufman
      to be completely import-independent!

      And when was the military dependent?
      (It was about the Lynx-Iveco car, but not seriously and for a better understanding of what the army needs.)
      1. +2
        10 January 2023 12: 05
        Electronics imported, obtained in general, in various ways. Not made in the country
        1. +3
          10 January 2023 13: 09
          It's true. And to put it bluntly, Russia does not have a modern electronics industry.
          To make microcircuits, semiconductors and other things corresponding to today's level.
    3. -2
      10 January 2023 20: 15
      Yes, such that it is completely import-independent!

      What gave you this import independence? If it is impossible to purchase imported microcontrollers and because of this it is impossible to produce serial products in the required quantities - then yes, you need to look for a replacement for them. And if you can also purchase imported equipment and increase the price uncritically? What is the point of recycling a product?
      We are engaged in the production of complex products (mainly for industrial purposes) and in our products 100% of microcircuits are imported, including modern STM32 microcontrollers. In February last year, after the well-known events, we had a slight panic, like right now we will be cut off oxygen, we urgently need to attract developers, and change everything to domestic. Suppliers were urgently sent to draw up shortage lists. After working with the market, it turned out that there were no problems with microcircuits, problems arose with Japanese PMTs and high-precision American accelerometers. We have found a way to solve these problems. In my impression, people who are far from electronics write about the alleged problems of electronics in UAVs, am I wrong? And UAVs, I believe, will have real problems, for example, in the manufacture of composite parts, it is really not easy to put them into series. I don’t know what’s up with the engines, it’s also not a simple product.
      1. +1
        11 January 2023 00: 28
        Excuse me, what is your education? Based on your comment, it doesn't seem like it.
  5. +3
    10 January 2023 08: 39
    It is better to put into mass production those developments that already exist than that which will no longer participate in its own
    1. 0
      10 January 2023 09: 45
      Quote: Batko_Makhno
      It is better to put into mass production those developments that already exist than that which will no longer participate in its own

      The development of a new one does not cancel the serial construction of the contracted one. And yes, SVO is not over yet. And even if it ends this year, this does not mean that a new one will not begin, requiring more advanced weapons than the existing one. In fact, during the war, the processes of designing new and modernizing old weapons not only do not stop, but acquire more intense dynamics.
  6. +9
    10 January 2023 08: 50
    Less words. And more things.
    They did it, they sent it to the troops, they won, they boasted.
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    2. -1
      10 January 2023 13: 54
      Quote: Rust
      Less words. And more things.
      They did it, they sent it to the troops, they won, they boasted.

      Then journalists will begin to die of malnutrition... laughing
  7. 0
    10 January 2023 09: 06
    In a good way, there should be a competition with declared characteristics, where different design bureaus would offer different concepts. And on the basis of a more successful design, it would be possible to make a decision on mass production. This is how it has always been done and is being done.
    And then what? Well, a wing of complex shape with front and rear mechanization. And with what to compare?
  8. +4
    10 January 2023 09: 06
    Everything, as usual, rests on two questions: how much and when? Otherwise, the standard messages of recent years are recalled: "2 aircraft were transferred to the troops", "two aircraft will replenish the civilian air fleet", "the IL 112b transporter is being tested", etc., and hundreds of them are needed now!
    1. -1
      10 January 2023 10: 06
      We are not flooded with a lard, like the Chinese, plus sanctions. Forget hundreds forever. There are not so many specialists.
  9. +2
    10 January 2023 09: 07
    We need parallel design bureaus and a direct order from the president. The current bunch of generals and designers stubbornly drives something expensive with superpowers but a single one, and nothing can turn the tide. The army, on the other hand, needs a shaft of cheap drones with a more powerful charge and a range of a kilometer and a half. Perhaps even separate ones for winter and summer, so that they are cheaper.
    The situation can be compared with the Great Patriotic War. Then Hitler chose the Tiger supertank, and ours filled it up with a mass of thirty-fours. So it is today with regard to drones: instead of conditional "Tigers", "thirty-fours" are needed.
    .
    New design bureaus are needed for another reason. The old bureaus will spend money on themselves, on their old cadres, who will do what they can. Tankers will invest in armor and tracks, aircraft manufacturers in a glider and super-maneuverability. They will not be able and will not want to share with young pimply geniuses from electronics. Meanwhile, a combat robot is primarily electronics and algorithms, programs and drives, optics and communications. And I don't believe it's possible to "teach an old dog new tricks".

    It is necessary to plan and finance the creation of a control for drones in a separate line, to free the remaining electronic engineers from serfdom. In a natural way, the bison of management, capable of snatching a piece of the pie, will grow out of them in thirty years.

    As a cheap option and without demolition of existing structures: recruit groups of former students and instruct them to adapt old guns, tanks and planes into drones ... In the mass of military spending, a trifle, but the result should be. In any case, in 2011, the country had all the necessary components for combat robots of its own production (except for Rogozin's brains).
    1. +1
      10 January 2023 10: 00
      On the one hand, everything is correct. On the other. Some young people were entrusted with making a plane, they overweighted the glider and are still suffering with it.
      1. +2
        10 January 2023 13: 42
        The citizen is apparently young and hot ... Today, many young people say why we need the experience of the old, we read everything in Tyrnet and download it ...
        A sort of Saint Greta syndrome, you are all old (m) weirdos, and I'm so smart ...
        That's just who will write the secrets of the nuclear batons to them, the question is?
        And in the Second World War, she won the socialist principle of the economy, where you need a lot and cheaply, for the Victory of the Soviet people ... Therefore, under Stalin, prices were systematically reduced every year ...
        In the bourgeois economy, as in the Reich, the USA and now in the Russian Federation, a lot is not necessary, the main thing is expensive and rich, for lining the pockets of individuals, and not for the victory of the nation (hello to the black people), so the businessmen Krupp or Porsche suffered after the war purely formally .. .
        While in the Reich they were riveting the tower of one expensive and comfortable Tiger, in the USSR, on the Omsk tank, a dozen T-34 towers were cast into the ground ...
        The system is different, and the principle and purpose of the economy is different ...
  10. +2
    10 January 2023 09: 12
    [quote] [/
    It should be noted that the special military operation of the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine demonstrated the importance of unmanned aircraft in modern warfare and the need to improve existing and develop new drones that are in service with the Russian army.
    AVT] This was obvious to the armaments specialists of the leading countries of the world ... except for the specialists of the Russian Federation. Suddenly - drones were able to radically change the course of hostilities. “Oh God, we couldn’t assume this, but how dare they cursed adversaries ... (add as necessary) In connection with this, I have one question, why are military institutions being created in our state, keeping an army of doctors of military sciences, strategists at all levels, generals and academicians of various research institutes. People write doctoral dissertations on various military exotic topics. What is all this for ??? this was all needed YESTERDAY, and now we are frantically trying to make up for lost time and thoughtlessness. And the price for this is too high. Maybe we can disperse all this thinking brethren, and use the money saved to collect, for example, 150 hunters or 5000 lancets, all good!
  11. +4
    10 January 2023 09: 28
    The specialists of this organization plan to improve a number of characteristics and create highly maneuverable attack unmanned aerial vehicles that would be equipped with jet engines.

    Again the project, again they plan. All this is wonderful in peacetime.
    But during NWO all these things are needed "for yesterday". It is necessary to mass-produce already existing UAVs: Orions, Orlans, Shahedi-Gerani under license, KUBs, etc. Even if their technical characteristics are not ideal, even if there is still a lot to improve, they must be mass-produced and delivered to the front en masse.
    1. 0
      10 January 2023 20: 59
      What are you? We are now building a million Geraniums. Until there is a million, no supplies to the front.
  12. +4
    10 January 2023 09: 32
    Again, projects "have no analogues in the world"? The army still does not receive what has already been developed, but they abandon it without bringing to mind what has been done, and grab onto the new.
  13. +4
    10 January 2023 09: 35
    Quote from: ratoborets
    The specialists of this organization plan to improve a number of characteristics and create highly maneuverable attack unmanned aerial vehicles that would be equipped with jet engines.

    Again the project, again they plan. All this is wonderful in peacetime.
    But during NWO all these things are needed "for yesterday". It is necessary to mass-produce already existing UAVs: Orions, Orlans, Shahedi-Gerani under license, KUBs, etc. Even if their technical characteristics are not ideal, even if there is still a lot to improve, they must be mass-produced and delivered to the front en masse.

    In mass production, do not cut much. And here in a new way - a preliminary design, a technical design, working design documentation, prototypes, endless shifts of deadlines to the right. These are not serial deliveries for you - take it out, and put one hundred UAVs by the deadline.
    1. +2
      10 January 2023 10: 59
      Spend money, and then you can shrug and say, well, the stone flower didn’t work out, this project is a new, unknown thing hi
    2. 0
      10 January 2023 14: 10
      One hundred UAVs is just a miserable amount, we urgently need to master large-scale production capable of producing several hundred thousand pieces of modern and reliable UAVs for the needs of our army.
  14. +4
    10 January 2023 09: 39
    Here in the topic they talk about the airframe, about the necessary engine. But for some reason they forget the main component of the UAV electronics. Do we have factories for creating brains for such machines, do we have production, at least machine tools and equipment? And without this, you can do as many projects as you like, 1-2 prototypes will be built on foreign components and that's it ...
    1. +1
      10 January 2023 13: 12
      We do not have a modern electronics industry.
      With those microcircuits that they can do in Russia, not like such an apparatus,
      even a penny Mavic won't work.
      These are either long-obsolete Soviet developments of the 80s and 90s, or copies
      long outdated imported processors and microcontrollers.
    2. 0
      10 January 2023 20: 57
      And someone promises mass production? Talk only about the new development.
  15. +2
    10 January 2023 10: 38
    Apparently, they have already made a gas turbine engine for 100 kW.
    It is simpler than the ancient one, but the working gtd350, and can be mass-produced! But there is no such real thing as an internal combustion engine for the same 100-200 kW !!! Think, lampoons, and if not, then ask those who can, otherwise history will ask all of us, both the guilty and the innocent.
  16. +2
    10 January 2023 12: 03
    They are considering again, they will look, and again la la, you need not to consider, but to do, but for now, hit with everything that is, and first of all, at transport facilities on the western border
  17. +3
    10 January 2023 13: 01
    Blah blah blah again. The weakness of managers - managers. The weakness of those who make decisions even in difficult times is war. Got this pack of liberoid. In the 41st, the plant could be transferred to the Urals and launched in 3 months. And then .... They made capitalists, but they can’t cope with them. They are looking for profit for themselves, not developing industry. And the working people disentangle for you.
    1. 0
      10 January 2023 20: 55
      Maybe it's time for the workers to take power into their own hands?
  18. fiv
    0
    10 January 2023 13: 10
    An excellent article about "Geranium" appeared on VO. Designers should read. And correct your actions. And Projects. And in the MO you need to read. And read every day.
  19. +2
    10 January 2023 13: 11
    Already it is impossible to read all these promises.
  20. 0
    10 January 2023 13: 15
    Here's what to do with electronics and component base for such equipment?
    Its production is not in Russia at all.
    If they cannot assemble a radio altimeter of a cruise missile and a block on their components
    GLONASS for her, what is there to talk about UAVs at all?
    After all, much more serious processors and microcircuits are required there, including
    for ground control stations.
  21. +2
    10 January 2023 13: 59
    the soul rushed to heaven, another cut of budget money, but what about the Hunter or is no longer relevant
  22. +1
    10 January 2023 14: 04
    Again, only a project, and when we finally launch large-scale production of UAVs, as much as we can talk about projects, it is high time to start implementing them and finally launch our own large-scale production for their production for the needs of our army.
  23. 0
    10 January 2023 14: 27
    Some projects have no analogues...
  24. +2
    10 January 2023 14: 42
    Again they will make one or two copies for parades and exhibitions, such as "Here we are as we can!" And in the NVO zone, the fighters will again remake Chinese drones on their knees to suit their needs! It's time to ask those who are responsible for the supply of modern weapons to the Army for a long time! "Where are the landings, Vladimir Vladimirovich?!"
  25. 0
    10 January 2023 18: 42
    But what about the long-suffering Hunter Sukhoi?
    1. +1
      11 January 2023 02: 38
      Suffering a little...............
  26. +2
    10 January 2023 19: 18
    Projects, projects. Crap. Stalin would have quickly put an end to this window dressing and eyewash. What is only the front tank Armata worth. WHERE?
  27. +1
    10 January 2023 19: 54
    If the arms race does not transform into a successful war, then it ends in a revolution of the impoverished.
  28. +3
    10 January 2023 19: 59
    project of an inconspicuous and highly maneuverable jet strike UAV

    ...projects, projects, projects...
    We master grandmothers.)
  29. 0
    10 January 2023 20: 52
    Well, probably, by 2050 we will start small-scale production. Well, or export to Egypt.
  30. 0
    10 January 2023 20: 58
    Are they just looking at the project? belay belay Here they ban me in black, but I don’t swear in my life AT ALL, there are no words other than obscene in relation to both our Defense Ministry and our military-industrial complex.
  31. 0
    11 January 2023 00: 07
    Everything! Kirdyk! As soon as I read about jet engines, I immediately understood everything. IL-112 / IL-114 and further down the list less / more. And all these IMPORTANT airframes are WAITING for engines from VK-800 to PD-14. Therefore, for a trouble-free launch, barrage for a long time in search of a target and a reliable dive on the target, there are NO JET ENGINES and will not be in the near future. And we need to increase the speed of advancement to the western borders of the Russian Empire ... And tens of thousands of kamikaze drones are needed. By the way, both the Navy and the Border Guards ... Fantastic!
  32. +1
    11 January 2023 00: 31
    A project of an inconspicuous and highly maneuverable jet strike UAV will be presented in Russia

    Give us money, we have another super-idea, honestly.
    The specialists of this organization plan to improve a number of characteristics and create highly maneuverable attack unmanned aerial vehicles that would be equipped with jet engines.

    What characteristics?
    The developers believe that such unmanned aerial vehicles will combine such useful properties as high maneuverability and low radar visibility.

    Who are useful?
    This will allow drones to bypass layered air defenses.

    To get around it, you don’t have to be an acrobat, just fly around.
    evade fighter-interceptors

    You can’t run away from RVV (especially if you are an UAV), but who cares ...
    perform the tasks that are now facing manned attack aircraft

    Yeah! How could it be without this mantra repeated 100500 times already, but something has not been replaced by anything so far.
    An integrated layout with a ventral air intake will be taken as the basis for creating a new drone.

    State? O_o, in the same place at the beginning it seemed like they were flooding about stealth, and suddenly the ventral one)))
    The dimensions of such a UAV will be small, which will reduce the cost of the device,

    Uh-huh... sizes = price... well, naveno miniaturization of electronics in the country of pink ponies costs absolutely nothing. and certainly cheaper than something that does not need to be done with a microscope ...
    equip it with appropriate weapons and equipment.

    And, of course, it already exists accordingly.
    It should be noted that the special military operation of the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine demonstrated the importance of unmanned aircraft in modern warfare and the need to improve existing and develop new drones that are in service with the Russian army.

    It should be noted that the importance of UAVs was demonstrated back in the early 2000s in the Middle East, and consolidated in the latest Armenian-Azerbaijani showdowns, but .... to some, like a giraffe, or the brain turns on only after contact with a rake handle, and then from the 10th time.

    In general, as usual in Russia ...
  33. +1
    11 January 2023 00: 43
    laughing It's funny!
    In Ukraine, only "Armata" Su57 are fighting ... super advanced weapons of yours.
    And drones, small ones, only Russian "Pacers", "Russian" "Geran" or self-made Chinese!
  34. +1
    11 January 2023 02: 36
    Again and again - the invention of the bicycle. Now they will tell you why Reapers is bad and how this development (on paper) surpasses all existing analogues combined. And then, as is usually the case, reconnaissance from the trenches will launch Chinese commercial quadrocopters with a guaranteed flight time of 30 minutes ...
  35. +1
    11 January 2023 02: 42
    Given the recent demonstration of the so-called. "first flight" Il114, the picture will be something like this: taken from the Tu141 warehouse, a new camera is attached with four self-tapping screws, the body is repainted with fresh gray paint - and go ...
  36. 0
    15 January 2023 13: 40
    I wonder whose drone is in the photo?)

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