The first campaign and a great future: the deployment of Zircon missiles

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The first campaign and a great future: the deployment of Zircon missiles
"Admiral Gorshkov" in Severomorsk in preparation for the exit, December 2022. Photo by the Russian Ministry of Defense


Last year, the Russian defense industry and the navy completed the development and testing of the Zirkon advanced hypersonic missile system. As a result of the measures taken, the missile and related instruments were adopted by the Navy and put into series. To date, the missile system has reached full operation - and for the first time went on a long sea voyage on a regular carrier.



On military service


At the testing stage, the carrier of the Zircon experimental missiles was the multi-purpose frigate pr. 22350 Admiral fleet Gorshkov of the Soviet Union", serving in the Northern Fleet. Before participating in the tests, the ship underwent some refinement and received a set of new equipment. It was reported that this frigate would later become the first combat carrier of the new missile system.

To date, all necessary measures and procedures have been completed. The Zircon missiles went into series and are supplied to the fleet, and the Admiral Gorshkov is completely ready for operation and use of such weapons. In addition, now a ship with an updated composition of weapons can go to sea and solve real problems.

Last week, January 4, for the first time in stories of the Russian and world military fleet, a ship with hypersonic weapons on board set off on a military campaign. Due to the special significance of this event, President Vladimir Putin and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu watched the release of Admiral Gorshkov via videoconference.


Frigate near Norway, January 6, 2023. Photo by Norwegian Ministry of Defense / Telegram-ChDambiev

During the event, the head of state called the first trip of the frigate with Zircons an important or even significant event. He also thanked for the work of the specialists of the military-industrial complex, who created a unique missile armament. According to the president, such weapons will provide the country with reliable protection against external threats and will help ensure national interests.

The Minister of Defense reported on the readiness of the frigate to go to sea and revealed some details of the beginning long-range sea voyage. According to the plan, the ship will display the flag in the Atlantic and Indian Oceans. In addition, it is planned to enter the Mediterranean Sea.

During the trip, the crew will work out various tasks related to protecting the borders and interests of the country. Exercises and drills are planned. Some activities will be held together with friendly foreign countries. The Minister also announced the holding of various firing exercises, incl. using the latest hypersonic weapons.

After the minister, the commander of the ship, Captain 1st Rank Igor Krokhmal, reported on the readiness for the campaign. The ship went through a full cycle of preparation. Ammunition was loaded on board: missiles of various types, air defense systems, artillery and torpedo ammunition. The crew is ready to perform tasks. On January 4, the frigate put to sea and headed for the North Atlantic Ocean.

Maritime potential


In his speech, Minister of Defense S. Shoigu revealed some features of the campaign that had begun, and also indicated the main features of the frigate and its latest weapons. The minister recalled that the Admiral Gorshkov is a modern multipurpose warship. It carries guided missile weapons and is capable of solving combat missions in the far sea and ocean zone.


"Admiral Gorshkov" on trials. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

The main strike weapon of the frigate is now the Zircon missile system with unique tactical and technical characteristics. In flight, a hypersonic missile develops a speed of more than 9 M; flight range exceeds 1000 km. Such a missile is guaranteed to overcome any modern anti-missile and air defense systems.

The surface complex in the form of the Admiral Gorshkov frigate and the Zircon missile is distinguished by its special combat capabilities. According to the minister, the ship is capable of delivering accurate and powerful strikes against the enemy, both on ground and surface targets.

It should be recalled that in addition to the hypersonic Zircon, the ship also carries other weapons for strike and defense purposes. So, supersonic missiles "Onyx" or subsonic cruise missiles "Caliber" can be used to destroy surface and ground targets. There are multi-purpose artillery systems in calibers of 30 and 130 mm. From the means of air attack, the frigates of Project 22350 are protected by the Poliment-Redut missile systems and portable air defense systems. It is possible to fight underwater targets with the help of anti-submarine missiles RPK-9 "Medvedka" or 91R "Caliber".

The ship has a total displacement of 5,4 thousand tons with a maximum length of 135 m. The main power plant based on diesel and gas turbine engines provides a speed of about 29-30 knots and a cruising range of up to a month. Crew - up to 210 people.


One of the experimental launches of Zircon. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

First and subsequent


The frigate "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" was the first in the combat strength of the Navy to receive Zircon missiles. It is possible that so far he is the only carrier of such weapons. However, in the near future the situation will change, and other ships will receive hypersonic missiles.

As reported, the Zircon missile and its transport and launch container are fully compatible with the 3S-14 firing system. Launchers of this type are widely used on ships of the latest projects, and each such pennant is a potential carrier of hypersonic missiles. Minor hardware and software upgrades are likely to be required to exploit this potential.

Accordingly, in the future, Zircons may receive a wide range of ships. First of all, other frigates of project 22350 should be considered as their carriers. Current plans provide for the construction of ten such ships, including two already accepted into the Navy. It is also impossible to exclude the corresponding modernization of ships of a number of other types, up to the rebuildable heavy nuclear cruisers of Project 1144.

In the foreseeable future, submarine forces will also receive the Zircon missile. The first launch of such a product from under water in October 2021 was carried out by the Severodvinsk submarine pr. 885 Yasen, and work on this project continues. As reported, the first regular carrier of the complex will be the Perm nuclear submarine under construction, pr. 885M. It is planned to be accepted into the fleet in 2026. Then other Ashes and other types of submarines will receive hypersonic weapons.


Rise and acceleration of the rocket. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Thus, in the medium and long term, compatibility with Zircon hypersonic missiles will receive many surface ships and submarines. This number will include both pennants of new projects and modernized ships of older types. However, the exact composition of such a ship "grouping" and its strength have not yet been disclosed.

It is obvious that the Zircon hypersonic missile system will eventually become one of the main models of strike weapons for surface and submarine forces. It will complement the existing systems "Caliber" and "Onyx" and will take on some of the combat missions, increasing the flexibility of the use of the fleet as a whole. At the same time, complex and expensive hypersonic missiles, despite all the advantages, will not displace other weapons.

New stage


The recently launched combat campaign of the Admiral Gorshkov frigate with new weapons on board is of great importance - both for the ship itself and for our fleet as a whole. This event shows that the new Zircon missile system has not only been developed and brought to the series, but is also entering service and is ready for full-fledged operation.

In addition, now we can talk about the full-fledged beginning of the rearmament of the Navy. Following the Admiral Gorshkov, other ships and submarines will have to receive new hypersonic weapons. This process will be quite complex and will take several years. However, the obvious benefits and significance for national security fully justify all the expected spending and waiting.
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  1. +2
    10 January 2023 05: 14
    Americans already, boyatstso. No matter how this super-ship the entire fleet drowned from them. That's why it's scary. Yes
    1. -2
      10 January 2023 07: 51
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      That's why I'm scared

      After Medvedev's formidable words, why not fear? That's what the hike is for.
      Small boat, but not bad. And the rocket is good.
      Let the baby be afraid.
    2. +12
      10 January 2023 08: 12
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Americans already, boyatstso. No matter how this super-ship the entire fleet drowned from them. That's why it's scary.

      Do you write this way because you classify the users of the site as part of your circle of gopnik friends?
      On the streets, you still do not pester passers-by with a ritual question:
      "Can't you find a smoke?"
      * * *
      Truly, the site has turned into a bunch of losers ... There is not enough thieves' jargon ... And how did they start ...
      1. -5
        10 January 2023 08: 48
        After Medvedev's formidable words, why not fear? That's what the hike is for.

        Yes, I myself am already ... I'm afraid. And what can we say about stupid Americans. laughing
        1. +1
          10 January 2023 22: 28
          Here everyone is "terrified" from such a thunderstorm of the oceans. But nevertheless, this is the first military campaign of the regular carrier of "Zircons". We'll see where it goes, but this is more of a political demonstration than a real military operation. This is, in fact, the first-born ... as the people say: "The spool is small, but expensive," or: "The bug is small, yes ... odorous."
          Here they will equip Kasatonov and Golovko with the same GZUR (now undergoing factory tests), and then the submarine ... then it will really become a threat. And when "Admiral Nakhimov" returns to service ... that's when - yes. Live to see those wonderful days.
          1. -3
            17 January 2023 05: 53
            All this is not enough !! Even with 10 ships it is not enough to protect the vast territory of the Russian Federation and to perform other tasks in other parts of the world. The second question is economic. , a large number of these weapons? Not only missiles, but also the carriers of these missiles. on my knees, in the Russian Federation, the training of military personnel. The SVO showed a lot of bad things in the army of the Russian Federation. I would not be particularly happy about this next PR show of the Kremlin. , a strange military operation ,, Window dressing and biathlons came out sideways.
      2. +5
        10 January 2023 11: 08
        "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" was the first to receive Zircon missiles.

        —- Campaign "Gorshkov" - a significant fact. But what is the combat stability of this campaign, even taking into account underwater escort?
      3. -1
        25 February 2023 17: 21
        Yes, where is the site of "doubles"! What, the usual sarcasm is not digested? Although, if you think about it, it’s worth understanding that this fuss with Ukraine (ugh, they took a name for themselves) is reminiscent of the struggle of the “Nanai boys”. Noodles are hung daily, together with orders and medals, with the heroic liberation of apartment buildings no longer suitable for settlement. Do they really not see in our military leadership that the systematic destruction of the infrastructure of the entire territory occupied by the Russian army is being carried out. Isn't it time to respond with massive bombing strikes on the cities involved in pumping weapons to the IED troops and on the cities themselves, from where the occupiers came from. So that the belligerents on the side of Ukraine do not have illusions that there is where to return.
    3. +12
      10 January 2023 12: 16
      A strange bet on piece wunderwaffles, no matter how Shoigu and his friends mouse invented
      1. -4
        10 January 2023 14: 15
        armata, as it were, there is already a mouse, it probably cost less)
        1. +1
          11 January 2023 10: 31
          the mouse was probably cheaper

          I think - if Mouse is thrown from a bomber onto an American aircraft carrier and still gets there, everyone will be fucked up. belay The effect will be the same.. what
      2. +3
        11 January 2023 10: 29
        In addition, for some reason everyone bypasses the main question, but what about target designation for 1000 km? And the discovery of an adversary? And then a formidable rocket is, of course, just wonderful, but where should it smack?
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    4. 0
      10 January 2023 16: 33
      Very funny joke!))) Come on)
  2. +16
    10 January 2023 05: 18
    The production of missile weapons, not to be confused with the missile industry in general (pah, pah, not to remember Rogozin by night), is perhaps the only type of military product that can rightfully be said to be unparalleled and adopted for service. Everyone who has invested a part of their work in the creation of Yars, Zircon, Vanguard and Caliber - well done!
    1. +1
      10 January 2023 12: 17
      Yeah, the caliber turned out to be a workhorse in general
  3. +10
    10 January 2023 05: 24
    Oh, Cyril, well, you are not an ensign .... "Dig from here until dinner..."
    The main power plant based on diesel and gas turbine engines provides a speed of about 29-30 knots and a cruising range of up to a month.
    correct please.
    1. +2
      10 January 2023 07: 44
      Quote: jonht
      correct please.

      The correct figure according to the handbook is 29,5 knots.
    2. +1
      10 January 2023 22: 46
      Quote: jonht
      cruising range up to a month.

      Endurance of navigation for a month. - There is a supply of food, water, fuel. To continue the campaign, it can refuel at sea and get water and fuel. That is, a meeting at a rendezvous point with a tanker and a support ship.
      1. 0
        17 January 2023 18: 59
        I would like to add: not only fuel, but also oils, and antiseptic, etc. And also a sewage vessel is required. We don't shit in the ocean.
        1. 0
          19 January 2023 11: 09
          We don't shit in the ocean.

          Above 12 miles offshore and at speeds above 4 knots, discharge of sewage is permitted, provided discharge is gradual.
  4. +3
    10 January 2023 06: 03
    It is not clear how to conduct reconnaissance, there are almost no satellites.
    1. +2
      10 January 2023 09: 35
      And what, "Liana" has already broken down?
    2. -10
      10 January 2023 16: 06
      Well, somehow they let zircon through vocational schools with great Ukrainians. And, according to the report of the Ministry of Defense, 600 diggers of a pit under the Black Sea were sent to another world. So both with intelligence and with the Central Command, complete order came out.
      1. +2
        10 January 2023 16: 37
        Quote: Leontrotsky
        Well, somehow they let zircon through vocational schools with great Ukrainians. And, according to the report of the Ministry of Defense, 600 diggers of a pit under the Black Sea were sent to another world. So both with intelligence and with the Central Command, complete order came out.


        So that standing building and zircon, in theory, should hit a floating ship ... And this is how he will find it in the sea and aim at it, for example, it’s not clear to me. And there is no official information about it.
        1. -3
          10 January 2023 22: 50
          Quote from: newtc7
          And how he will find him in the sea and aim at him, for example, is not clear to me. And there is no official information about it.

          And it won't. For your information, there is a satellite constellation, there are reconnaissance ships. there are AWACS aircraft, in the end there is a helicopter and possibly a UAV, there is information from civilian ships, radio intelligence
          and so on ... Lots of options.
    3. -1
      10 January 2023 17: 01
      It is not clear how to conduct reconnaissance, there are almost no satellites.

      https://topwar.ru/204942-pervyj-pion-nks-v-jekspluatacii-uspehi-stroitelstva-sistemy-mkrc-liana.html

      Uh-huh, almost none at all ..... Balabol Dima.
      One left to take out. ONE.
      1. +3
        10 January 2023 18: 33
        Quote: bk316
        Uh-huh, almost none at all ..... Balabol Dima.
        One left to take out. ONE.

        Did you read the article carefully?
        The full "constellation" of the system according to the project consists of five passive reconnaissance satellites and two active ones.

        Two active reconnaissance satellites, even in theory. To the entire surface of the earth. Of which one is actually launched. With a circulation period of 93,9 min.
        The remaining 5 satellites are passive. Moreover, the first of them has been flying since 2009 and showed itself not in the best way, but the tests were completed and put into operation ©.
        In short, "Liana" is a very rare and partially worn-out net with which we are trying to comb the waters of the world's oceans.
        1. +2
          11 January 2023 17: 30
          The remaining 5 satellites are passive.

          And that the AUG is not detected by a passive satellite?
          Come on, she radiates so much that her amateur receiver can be detected.

          As for the composition, then Liana was planned to be so. This is enough to control all targets at the level of ship groups.

          Speaking of 90 minutes. Somehow I already wrote to you, but I will repeat. How often do you think it is necessary to have radio contact with the AUG, so as not to lose it?
        2. 0
          19 January 2023 11: 12
          To the entire surface of the earth. Of which one is actually launched. With a circulation period of 93,9 min.

          And what do you think, will the AUG have time to go far 45 minutes before the arrival of the next satellite in order to lose sight of it?
  5. +16
    10 January 2023 06: 24
    M. yes ... I’m so-so and I see how Gorshkov goes to the AUG alone. Have the issues of over-the-horizon target designation been resolved?
    1. +1
      10 January 2023 09: 36
      And what, "Liana" has already broken down?
      1. 0
        10 January 2023 18: 34
        Quote from MainJet88
        And what, "Liana" has already broken down?

        For the passive component, one out of five satellites has been flying since 2009, and the reliability of its operation was in question even during launch.
        The active component has one of the two satellites deployed.
        1. +1
          11 January 2023 17: 31
          its reliability was questionable even during launch.

          You won’t believe how many times the reliability of the ISS has been called into question ....
      2. -2
        11 January 2023 01: 56
        But what, did oea ever fully work? laughing
    2. -2
      10 January 2023 10: 17
      M. yes ... I’m so-so and I see how Gorshkov goes to the AUG alone

      where in the text is an indication of the tactics of using this frigate - a single-handed attack on enemy aircraft carrier formations? If not balabol, please specify.
      Over-the-horizon target designation issues have already been resolved

      update liberal manuals. The peonies have already begun to launch.
      1. +1
        10 January 2023 16: 38
        So what do you answer - how will he find targets at sea at a distance of 1000 km?
        1. +3
          10 January 2023 17: 02
          So what do you answer - how will he find targets at sea at a distance of 1000 km?

          Like this
          https://topwar.ru/204942-pervyj-pion-nks-v-jekspluatacii-uspehi-stroitelstva-sistemy-mkrc-liana.html
    3. -7
      10 January 2023 12: 18
      Why would he give him a queue! Tra ta ta ta ta!
    4. +1
      10 January 2023 15: 24
      Yeah. Just like the Black Pearl against the squadron of the East India Company from the third Pirates.
    5. +1
      10 January 2023 17: 02
      Have the issues of over-the-horizon target designation been resolved?

      About a year ago.
      https://topwar.ru/204942-pervyj-pion-nks-v-jekspluatacii-uspehi-stroitelstva-sistemy-mkrc-liana.html
  6. +3
    10 January 2023 06: 31
    "And I recognize a sweetheart by his gait ..." of course, Ryabov with a ceremonial chatter. I hope that the series will not be limited to ten units, although a displacement of 4,5 thousand is still not enough for a ship in the far sea zone, even Sarych had around seven, now this is a first-class ship.
    1. -3
      10 January 2023 10: 35
      Are you shaking the air, what is difficult to read about the plans for the construction of frigates 22350 and 22350M?
      If the series is not extended, then when the boathouse is accepted, the laying of two 2024M frigates is planned in 22350!
      1. +1
        10 January 2023 14: 25
        Minusators, you don’t like that slowly but surely, shipbuilding will climb out of the hole into which the destroyer of the state, Yeltsin, drove us!)))
    2. -2
      10 January 2023 12: 20
      Count 5 pieces for each fleet, at least you need it!) This will be built by 2035
      1. +5
        10 January 2023 14: 40
        Frigates 22350 are planned to be divided into fleets:
        Northern - 4 buildings
        Pacific -4 buildings
        Black Sea - 2 buildings
        And, here is the end of the program, as always in the fog!
  7. +10
    10 January 2023 07: 43
    Good, iconic name for the ship. It was under Admiral Gorshkov that the fleet of the Soviet Union reached its maximum power and, if not equal to the American one, then at least it was a real ocean fleet capable of operating anywhere. And in the seventies there was generally a moment when the Americans had nothing to cover for a sudden strike by anti-ship missiles from our Mediterranean squadron
    1. +2
      10 January 2023 10: 50
      Tell us why all cruisers 1143 were written off ahead of time at the Pacific Fleet?
      Well done, the ocean fleet was built, but the coastal infrastructure, no! In the Northern Fleet, the situation is the same, they stood on barrels and threshed at idle, developing a motor resource!
      And what could the Yak-38, which burned kerosene for takeoff and landing, do!
      I saw it with my own eyes!
      In the Mediterranean, they rattled weapons in front of each other, and the wing of American aircraft carriers covered Our ships from the zone of inaccessibility of Our missiles! Yes, and more often with the help of BODs, they grazed the missile launch zones from SSBNs!
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      2. +1
        10 January 2023 12: 21
        I agree completely here's a plus for you !!!!!!!!
      3. 0
        10 January 2023 14: 49
        Quote: Sergey39
        In the Northern Fleet, the situation is the same, they stood on barrels and threshed at idle, developing a motor resource!

        I confirm, out of 2,5 years on the SF, 2 years on the barrel. Well, with the exception of exits to the sea, of course. And yes, even storming, the wind is more than 15 m / s - if you please, for Kildin and serve there)))
        1. 0
          10 January 2023 16: 28
          Everything, our large-capacity cruisers, in the marine environment was called, "prison of peoples"!
          At the Black Sea Fleet, helicopter carriers Moscow and Leningrad stood on berth 15 near the wall!
          1. +3
            10 January 2023 22: 54
            Quote: Sergey39
            At the Black Sea Fleet, helicopter carriers Moscow and Leningrad stood on berth 15 near the wall!

            Moscow stood on barrels in the center of the Sevastopol Bay and Leningrad too. hi
        2. 0
          17 January 2023 19: 06
          The problems of basing the fleet in the north were written back in the Soviet era.
          I myself, as a schoolboy, read an article in the library about ships that stood and threshed their resources. There is no infrastructure, as it was not and is not there right now.
      4. +1
        10 January 2023 18: 43
        Quote: Sergey39
        Well done, the ocean fleet was built, but the coastal infrastructure, no! In the Northern Fleet, the situation is the same, they stood on barrels and threshed at idle, developing a motor resource!

        Well, for 11435, they did find the coastal infrastructure, immediately basing it on the SRZ-35 - so as not to wander between the barrel and the plant. smile

        In the Northern Fleet, problems with basing are a tradition. "Sevens" for a couple of pre-war years in the base killed the power plant and the ADG so much that half of them required putting in for repairs. For the berths were not equipped with anything other than bollards.
    2. 0
      12 February 2023 21: 19
      Well, this is very optimistic) According to the recollections of Gorshkov's colleagues, he was skeptical about the allotted lifetime of the Mediterranean squadron in one week and offered to consider its lifetime of 3-4 days, but during this time the ground army was supposed to go to the straits .... according to plans. ..
  8. +1
    10 January 2023 09: 02
    Gorshkov needs to cross the English Channel one of these days, cheer up the British. Otherwise, yesterday they embossed an article by Ukrainian specialists on our "Admiral Kuznetsov", with a photograph with a photomontage. I wonder who from the BF will join him.
    1. 0
      10 January 2023 10: 38
      He has already demonstrated the flag by going around the world alone!
      I assume that he is moving to the Eastern Mediterranean with Tanker Kama!
      Infa slipped that he would lead the grouping of ships in the Mediterranean!
  9. 0
    10 January 2023 09: 41
    Tirpitz was a very formidable ship, the British were afraid of him, but ......
    1. +1
      10 January 2023 11: 50
      Tirpitz did not have hypersonic missiles, so I think this comparison is not appropriate at all.
  10. 0
    10 January 2023 10: 35
    Another three dozen sailors retired from the US Navy. And more than a hundred turned to a psychologist.
    Believe
  11. +3
    10 January 2023 11: 51
    But what about protection against drones, anti-ship missiles and torpedoes? And then in the light of recent events, the problem was drawn.
    1. +2
      10 January 2023 16: 32
      Poliment - Redoubt, 9M100 and ZAK broadsword missiles, one installation from each side and electronic warfare - this is frigate 22350.
      1. 0
        10 January 2023 18: 00
        Poliment - Redoubt, 9M100 and ZAK broadsword missiles, one installation from each side and electronic warfare - this is frigate 22350.

        It is necessary, and often, to conduct exercises with real firing / blanks, even with the threat of damaging the ship. If there is no experience and confidence in these anti-missile systems, no matter what the armed ship (Moscow, for example, was armed to the teeth and with air defense, although not modernized) all these zircons will not have time to shoot back. We need real exercises and a lot !!!
        1. +1
          10 January 2023 18: 45
          Quote: spirit
          It is necessary, and often, to conduct exercises with real firing / blanks, even with the threat of damaging the ship.

          After "Monsoon" - no chance.
  12. +2
    10 January 2023 16: 33
    There is only one question: how will zircon receive target designation on an enemy ship?
  13. -1
    10 January 2023 17: 10
    Information
    Close
    You have not been active as a commentator for a long time (write comments). Voting is prohibited .. so it is necessary.
  14. 0
    10 January 2023 18: 20
    Punch into the water. Drown preventively in case of anything. Single. Not even the KPUG. Air defense is so-so, to put it mildly.
  15. PPD
    0
    10 January 2023 20: 27
    cruising range up to a month.

    Excuse me how? wassat
    I know miles, kilometers too, I even know leagues, but months.
    I acknowledge the gap in knowledge. crying
    Please explain the author, how many cables per month? laughing
    And you didn’t indicate autonomy - it seems to be 4500 miles ....
    1. +1
      10 January 2023 21: 10
      For craftsmen and connoisseurs of WWII, who even know about the league!
      The autonomy of ships and boats is determined in days!)))
      Buy a compass "tourist"!)))
      1. +1
        11 January 2023 10: 11
        Quote: Sergey39
        For craftsmen and connoisseurs of WWII, who even know about the league!
        The autonomy of ships and boats is determined in days!)))

        Everything is fine - just the author of the post forgot the tag #sarcasm.
        Since the range began to be measured in days, then autonomy, accordingly, will have to be measured in miles. smile
  16. +1
    10 January 2023 21: 06
    It is interesting to see when our successes or positive examples and facts are poured with mud, solid pluses!
    Like, positive reviews and examples about Us, solid minuses!
    There have gathered here solid critics and not just critics, but those who want to cheat and belittle Us and Our state! (((
    It’s a pity, but they started out so beautifully, turned into a swamp. According to the principle, "but Baba Yaga is against!"
    1. 0
      11 January 2023 10: 19
      Quote: Sergey39
      Solid critics have gathered here and not just critics, but those who want to cheat and belittle Us and Our state!

      And most importantly - for this you don’t even need to invent anything. You can take the bare facts voiced by the same state - and immediately fall under "humiliation and humiliation". smile
      Let me just remind you that Gorshkov was scheduled to be handed over to the fleet in 2012. And according to the same plans, already for 2018, the Navy should have had 6 FR pr. 22350.
      About Chirkov with his 15 FR pr. 22350 and 22350M in the near future and I don’t want to remember ... because I don’t talker and troublemaker a journalist or politician blurted out something like that, but the whole commander-in-chief of the Navy.
  17. +2
    10 January 2023 23: 54
    it’s dumb to launch such a ship alone now. He would have to take a couple of frigates with him to escort.
  18. 0
    11 January 2023 00: 12
    The operation showed that it is necessary to keep missiles in reserve. In addition to official missiles, you must either keep them disassembled so that you can assemble them. America still keeps disassembled nuclear weapons, there are more missiles in any equipment in general in the United States.
    One had only to give up the slack as a pack of dogs from NATO is already beginning to torment Russia
  19. +1
    11 January 2023 15: 16
    A thousand kilometers. Class. And how will it be to aim for this thousand? On the ship, which also does not stand still. Or there is homing, shot to the side and forgot.
  20. 0
    11 January 2023 22: 51
    "Nakhimov" when he goes for a walk with such weapons, and a flock of multi-purpose submarines, then yes. But still, by the way
  21. Eug
    0
    13 January 2023 09: 33
    Can I clarify - is it really a SINGLE voyage of the Zircon carrier or accompanied by a floating workshop-tug?
  22. 0
    15 January 2023 21: 58
    And who will transmit target designations?
  23. 0
    17 January 2023 19: 02
    And here, in the words of Solovyov, taking into account the opinion of Satanovsky. Or the Falklands?
    And bitter, and insulting, and understandable, but there is nothing to wipe yourself with! But everyone will understand.
  24. Eug
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    19 January 2023 19: 46
    I see that the concept attributed to the "Varyag" - I die, but do not give up - still prevails over the fleet ....
  25. 0
    12 February 2023 21: 22
    Quote: spirit
    Poliment - Redoubt, 9M100 and ZAK broadsword missiles, one installation from each side and electronic warfare - this is frigate 22350.

    It is necessary, and often, to conduct exercises with real firing / blanks, even with the threat of damaging the ship. If there is no experience and confidence in these anti-missile systems, no matter what the armed ship (Moscow, for example, was armed to the teeth and with air defense, although not modernized) all these zircons will not have time to shoot back. We need real exercises and a lot !!!

    It is assumed that in the work of air defense of the 21st century, the lion's share of the work is done by automation, at least I read about it back in the year 2005, a person is only required to confirm the Start command!
  26. 0
    13 March 2023 12: 44
    Who will give target designation for 1000?