The press secretary of the President of Russia called the condition for the participation of conscripts in a special operation

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The press secretary of the President of Russia called the condition for the participation of conscripts in a special operation

Currently, conscripts are not sent to participate in a special military operation. Only contract soldiers and volunteers participate in the fighting. However, no one can deprive an adult citizen of Russia of the right to defend his homeland.

Moreover, it is quite natural that young people who are now serving in the army on conscription often want to go to participate in a special operation - to test their personal qualities, gain combat experience, and earn good money by Russian standards.



Any serviceman of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) who is on active duty on conscription may take part in a special military operation. However, for this he will have to sign a contract. This was stated TASS Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin Dmitry Peskov.

To participate in the SVO, a conscript must make this decision voluntarily. To participate in a special operation, a conscripted serviceman must switch to contract service, that is, conclude a contract. Then the conscript will be able to go to participate in a special operation without any problems.

According to current legislation, to conclude a contract, you must serve in the army for at least three months. But there are exceptions: conscripts with a higher professional education can conclude a contract immediately after being called up for military service.

It should be noted that conscription for military service in Russia covers persons aged 18 to 27 years. Many young Russians are drafted into the army after graduating from higher educational institutions, that is, at the age of 22-23. Thus, a conscript may be even older than a contract soldier who served after school and signed a contract at the age of 19.

The upper age limit for concluding a contract for military service after the start of a special military operation has been removed. This opened up the possibility of signing a contract for many representatives of the older age groups who have experience of participating in hostilities in "hot spots".
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    1. +20
      January 9 2023
      It's probably the right decision. If you want - serve under the contract, if you don't want, go home after the deadline. I think that some % of the conscripts will sign the contract.
      Yes, and the upper bar was canceled when signing the contract, I also think it was the right decision! We need not only fighters for the trenches, but also specialists, of whom there are many aged 35+.
      1. +14
        January 9 2023
        "However, no one can deprive an adult citizen of Russia of the right to defend his homeland."
        this is what is called by the call of the heart
        1. +6
          January 9 2023
          this is what is called by the call of the heart
          -
          young people who are now serving in the army by conscription often want to go to participate in a special operation - to test their personal qualities, gain combat experience, earn good money by Russian standards.
          - if they did not mention earnings for this, I would agree. Of course, fighters in the Second World War were also paid for downed enemy planes, but still they went to war not to test their personal qualities and earn good, by Soviet standards, money.
          1. +1
            January 9 2023
            During the Great Patriotic War, they paid not only for planes, but also for tanks and guns. They also paid for medals and orders, not much and not for long.
            In the normal work of political officers in the unit, in theory, many will sign a contract.
          2. 0
            January 12 2023
            It seems that in the Second World War there was also a cash bonus for a destroyed tank.
      2. +1
        January 10 2023
        3 months of preparation, having received basic skills, a citizen who has expressed a desire to participate in the b / d goes into the category of volunteers. By signing a contract, he becomes a contractor. All necessary legal steps have been taken.
        1. +2
          January 10 2023
          Where did you see that a conscript was taught to fight for 3 months? DMB 20-21. Continuous drill and edging + 3 rounds at the shooting range, the rest is under the photo report. In fact, combat training is zero and none, in many parts of our country (80% of the RF Armed Forces), if you don’t take any special forces there, etc. ... they need conscripts for household work and maintaining order and not for combat training. Need proof? Yes, their sea, those same conscripts from the MTO who carried fuel at the very beginning of the NWO (They weren’t even given weapons) the Natsiks grabbed them as lukewarm.
      3. 0
        January 10 2023
        It's probably the right decision. If you want - serve under the contract, if you don't want, go home after the deadline. I think that some % of the conscripts will sign the contract.
        Yes, and the upper bar was canceled when signing the contract, I also think it was the right decision! We need not only fighters for the trenches, but also specialists, of whom there are many aged 35+.

        You are so obviously right that it is not clear why this was not done before.
    2. -2
      January 9 2023
      So they will attract, but I hope the coordination will be appropriate, and not just signed a contract and go on the assault
      I remember at the beginning of the NWO, it was these yellow-mouthed ones who signed the contract (they wanted to earn money) and they were driven forward to Kyiv .. They shot many of them!
      Russia is at war with the entire collective West and it is still necessary to fire at conscripts, not at the forefront of course, but close to it. This is called the experience of war! Some of them can become a real fighter, but some to the rear
    3. -1
      January 9 2023
      What kind of comments are there when children are at war ... God forbid, bury children, but somehow you need to crush the Nazi reptile ...
      1. +33
        January 9 2023
        Maybe "golden youth"?
        Can it happen that as soon as the 1st Rublyovka-Barvikha Regiment of the Gucci and Lamborghini orders arrives at the front line, the SVO will end thanks to the efforts of their parents?
        1. +20
          January 9 2023
          We already have examples of how the children of "some" high-ranking officials went, as it were, to the front. Under guard and as far as possible from the front line, they took pictures and posted them on social networks and home) Well, either to a restaurant like a "trampoline". And a voluntary contract is a relative concept. History how conscripts got to the front in the first days of the war, I think everyone remembers hi
          1. +6
            January 10 2023
            It’s interesting then that’s what - why do we have conscripts at all then? Why do we serve in the army by conscription? If a soldier can fight only voluntarily and under contract. And the draft army milking furniture, or what?
            1. +6
              January 10 2023
              Quote: Traveler_2
              And the draft army milking furniture, or what?

              To prepare a mobilization reserve and to contain the invading enemy for the duration of a full-scale mobilization.
              1. +6
                January 10 2023
                Something in Afghanistan and Chechnya, only conscripts fought and fought well, no one kept a soldier for children.
                1. +2
                  January 10 2023
                  Quote: Vyacheslav 64
                  Something in Afghanistan and Chechnya, only conscripts fought and fought well, no one kept a soldier for children.

                  Another era, another country, another mentality, another demography, another tolerance of the population, another information space.
                  And it is incorrect to compare Chechnya with Afghanistan. If in Afghanistan they fought still tolerably (by my standards), then in Chechnya it is simply disgusting.
                  I’m telling you this, as an IDF veteran with rich database experience, and even now the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are disappointing me, I thought that the lesson of 08.08.08 was nevertheless learned and expected the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a month. But apparently the Georgian experience, instead of learning lessons, hit me in the head with self-conceit.
              2. 0
                January 10 2023
                Where did you see conscripts being taught to fight now? You won’t get much with a cant and a square snowdrift .... Drilling too .. you can’t knock out a tank. The army is not fulfilling its fundamental duty.
                1. +2
                  January 10 2023
                  Quote: Commissioner_Wolf
                  Where did you see conscripts being taught to fight now?

                  On the Zvezda TV channel. laughing
        2. +12
          January 9 2023
          Quote: Quote Lavrov
          Maybe "golden youth"?

          A. Lebed also said: let me recruit a company of the children of the elite, and tomorrow the war will stop!
        3. -15
          January 9 2023
          Again, that song about the children of the elite. Something about the participation in the war of the children of the Ukrainian leadership is not heard, but the nephew of the deputy. the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation died in the North-Eastern Military District, and how many children of the leadership of the regional level died cannot be counted. If any of the children of top officials participate in the SVO, then this is hidden so that they would not be hunted down. Read about Prince Harry's service in Afghanistan. I have been reading your comments for a long time, they only criticize our government and command, regardless of the content of the articles. Either you are a mishandled Ukrainian or a person offended by life.
          1. 0
            January 11 2023
            Gpn27. Of course, we must take an example from the children of the Ukrainian elite, they are such an exemplary example for everyone, like you.
        4. +3
          January 10 2023
          Quote: Quote Lavrov
          1st Rublevsko-Barvikhinsky

          Aha! Uniforms from Dior and Gucci, machines in rhinestones from Swarovski, appliances tuned and styled, food from El Celler de Can Roca and NOMA restaurants....
        5. +2
          January 10 2023
          Quote: Quote Lavrov
          Maybe "golden youth"?
          Can it happen that as soon as the 1st Rublyovka-Barvikha Regiment of the Gucci and Lamborghini orders arrives at the front line, the SVO will end thanks to the efforts of their parents?

          Now this can not be in principle! These are not the times of the Second World War, when both sons of Stalin fought and one of them died!
          Now not only the "golden youth", but all these more or less majors and sissies have fled Russia, fleeing from mobilization.
          I don’t understand why they are not deprived of citizenship? To support the population? So they do not live in Russia!
          Or will paper endure everything?
          1. 0
            January 12 2023
            Stalin had a third son, Artyom, adopted. He also fought, orders, many wounds. Lieutenant Colonel of Artillery. ...
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    4. +5
      January 9 2023
      In our unit, the case was that one soldier, having served the prescribed six months, signed a contract, and then they began to recruit volunteers among contract soldiers, everything went to the beginning of the first Chechen war, the required number apparently did not recruit, then they announced a new recruitment, promising those who agreed the rank of ensign so our soldier, having served 7 or 8 months, became an ensign.
      1. 0
        January 9 2023
        Quote: BARKAS
        everything went to the beginning of the first Chechen war, apparently they didn’t get the required number, then they announced a new set, promising those who agreed the rank of ensign, so our soldier, having served 7 or 8 months, became an ensign.
        Please clarify...
        Do you mean the "second assault on Grozny" "November assault on Grozny" November 26, 1994...?
        Then the "opposition of Dudayev", from Moscow, was provided with 40 tanks with crews, which were recruited by FSK officers from parts of the Moscow District (Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya divisions)
        what
        1. 0
          January 9 2023
          I don't know where they ended up, in the Urals district there was artillery.
      2. 0
        January 9 2023
        so our soldier, having served 7 or 8 months, became an ensign.

        Did he return home alive, this "precocious" ensign?
    5. 0
      January 9 2023
      And why did the talking head sound? The decision is not correct. It should be something like this, a conscript serviceman must finish his service, write a report, go (and this is mandatory, except for special troops) to a training unit for training and coordination, based on the results of training, there should be a conclusion on the advisability of involving a serviceman to participate in war.
      1. +8
        January 9 2023
        This is when we are at war. Such actions without a contract are envisaged. Now for the money. And for the money and now the competition must be passed. I was offered to pay a bribe to the draft board to revise my category so that I could volunteer. The truth is, I won't get better. A friend also asked. They didn't take it. I didn't ask why.
        Such a campaign is only possible with us.
        Give a bribe to go to the front.
        What is there to be surprised that the West's brain is tearing.
        I will soon gather my battalion who suffered from such arbitrariness. We'll call it "what the hell aren't we"
        1. +7
          January 9 2023
          I hope that you informed the prosecutor's office and the investigative committee that you were offered a bribe?
          1. +1
            January 9 2023
            Yeah. Wait. I am my own enemy. It's easier for me now to buy a train ticket there. And if you turn, they will put me in jail for seducing organs in giving a bribe, and I will go not only for free (from the word at all) and where they will take me and as much as necessary or until I run out
            1. +1
              January 10 2023
              Well, you didn’t give a bribe, why will they put you in jail?
              1. -1
                January 10 2023
                Quote: Stepan S
                Well, you didn’t give a bribe, why will they put you in jail?

                They will sew a case for snitching, a common practice.
                1. -1
                  January 10 2023
                  They will sew a case for snitching, a common practice.

                  It's hard for you to live in Israel ....
                  1. +2
                    January 10 2023
                    Quote: bk316
                    It's hard for you to live in Israel ....

                    Very funny, read the news for the last 20 years. lol
          2. -9
            January 9 2023
            By the way, I worked here with a refugee from the DPR. Or what is right now request
            He fled the war, family, child, thirty years old. Even started whining. That everything is bad. We sat and thought. You moved your family, and you yourself, a deserter. I quit. Then mobilization. Campaign he still had to go to defend his homeland. He has such a karma. What whined? request
            They called. He is now a citizen. And also not good. We have been redistributed. Campaign mobilization will be fellow
            I wish the frosts would end soon, otherwise it would be cold myself. Well, maybe it's warmer and my turn will come fellow
            In short, who does not want to go to the end of the line pliz
        2. +2
          January 10 2023
          Quote: igorbrsv
          Now for the money. And for the money and now the competition must be passed. I was offered to pay a bribe to the military registration and enlistment office to revise my category so that I could volunteer.


          Well, yes. There are so many volunteers in the country that it was necessary to mobilize and drive people to the front under pain of criminal liability. But everyone doesn’t take you and they don’t take you to the front.
      2. -7
        January 9 2023
        And by the way. Previously, I could not go there on my own. Because I am not allowed to leave the country. And now, with the admission of four new regions to the Russian Federation, I can. But cold winked
        Wait
        1. -9
          January 9 2023
          There is a category - not fit in peacetime. The introduction of martial law would open the way for this category, of which the majority, especially military age from 90 to 2000, then it was not comme il faut to serve, there was no one for whom, deviationists, now they themselves are ready to flee, and if they are also for money winked And then the military registration and enlistment offices themselves would not be happy with such an influx. They would have had to give bribes so that they would not come to them.
          I'm afraid to imagine the reaction of the West wink
          1. 0
            January 12 2023
            Well, you give! laughing laughing Bribes so as not to pozhat, to pozhat, so as not to appear. Maybe a bribe to send a summons? laughing Full service
      3. 0
        January 9 2023
        I wonder what then do conscripts do for a whole year in the army if they do not undergo training and training there? Do they eat cabbage soup and porridge and walk along the parade ground or what? Or do they work at the dachas of their commanders?
        1. +6
          January 10 2023
          and then what do conscripts do for a whole year in the army

          Probably it depends on the "army" what they are doing. I have a friend who served in the air defense in Karelia. So he was trained very quickly and spent the whole year on the radar, until the very demobilization. No dachas and drill.
          1. +1
            January 10 2023
            An acquaintance was lucky, the MSVs of the whole country are sitting on the edging, but not at all in combat training.
        2. +2
          January 11 2023
          Plemyash served for a year in the "special forces" (code on the ticket) kmb 5 rounds of oath .. The service ended, drove the unit commander, lived in a hotel (departmental) .. Happy as an elephant! A son in the nineties of the Strategic Missile Forces - nine months in a control bunker in salad form with a rare exit to the surface and seven months of sinecure on the remote control station, forest grass, sunbathing on the antenna at the height of mosquitoes and horseflies, there are practically no .. Girls seven km .. Roadside eatery in 8 kilometers...
    6. +8
      January 9 2023
      A bit off topic:
      Colleagues, am I the only one who stopped working notification of comments on my post?
      1. +5
        January 9 2023
        Alas, I have the same thing. I think the consequences of a hacking attempt.
        1. -5
          January 9 2023
          It's the Zionists who are shitting! We often scold them here! I have these alerts too!
          1. +14
            January 9 2023
            It's the Zionists who are shitting! We often scold them here! I have these alerts too!
            This is the chief programmer at VO who cannot get out of a binge. Before the New Old Year and there will be nothing.
          2. +6
            January 9 2023
            Here's what I personally annoyed you with laughing "" ""
          3. -1
            January 9 2023
            Why are you so against the Zionists.. Well, we didn’t even swear even once. Well, let the fu-35 with their patch be the best. What are we sorry for? This ukroshi tried, or as below (or above) what write a binge of the chief programmer.
          4. +2
            January 10 2023
            Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
            It's the Zionists who are shitting! We often scold them here! I have these alerts too!

            It doesn't work for me either, so by ))
            I am a Zionist if soldier
          5. +3
            January 10 2023
            Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
            These are the Zionists!

        2. -3
          January 9 2023
          The bell, alas, was compromised by dill. There would be a site to keep. So they say. By the way, they don't exist today. Did something happen to them? Does anyone know? So once it was when they demolished the towers at once. Hey?! Where are you?! What's wrong with you?!
          1. +1
            January 10 2023
            Quote: igorbrsv
            By the way, they don't exist today. Did something happen to them? Does anyone know? So once it was when they demolished the towers at once. Hey?! Where are you?! What's wrong with you?!

            They drowned.
      2. +3
        January 9 2023
        Quote: Million
        A bit off topic:
        Colleagues, am I the only one who stopped working notification of comments on my post?

        It hasn't worked for me since April.
        1. -3
          January 9 2023
          Have you noticed that there are few comments? Or it seems to me request
      3. -1
        January 9 2023
        I haven't been working for a long time..
        My comment..
    7. 0
      January 9 2023
      But there are exceptions: conscripts with a higher professional education can conclude a contract immediately after being called up for military service.


      but there should be no such exceptions. A minimum of three months of service for everyone and only then a contract.
      1. +3
        January 9 2023
        “We have two thousand administration employees, do you really think that I control everyone? Vaughn Peskov is sitting opposite, my press secretary, he sometimes carries such a “blizzard”, I watch on TV and think: what is he telling there? instructed?" - Vladimir Putin in an interview with the American television channel NBC. The interview was recorded on March 1 in the Kremlin and on March 2 in Kaliningrad.
    8. +6
      January 9 2023
      I have a question for most of the contract for six months, so others will be sent soon? Wagner PMCs were recently released by those who were imprisoned and those who fought for six months in total. And it’s not clear with this mobilization what to do with these six months?
      1. +16
        January 9 2023
        Quote from Alexwar
        I have a question for most of the contract for six months, so others will be sent soon? Wagner PMCs were recently released by those who were imprisoned and those who fought for six months in total. And it’s not clear with this mobilization what to do with these six months?

        It's also unclear. Having served 6 months for criminals - amnesty, removal of a criminal record and home. And for law-abiding citizens called up for mobilization - until the end of the war? And if you change the contingent every six months, our population is not in China. request
        1. +1
          January 9 2023
          What does the end of the war have to do with mobs? They depend on the demobilization order..
        2. +4
          January 10 2023
          Apparently they will let you go home if you are a citizen of the Russian Federation and not a prisoner from Wagner. In addition to HP Wagner before the war, from June recruitment began from prisons, and in my opinion there are not a couple of thousand, but many more. Somehow they went home not much intact, they also showed a large group of those who had departed due to a serious wound, but from the total number there are still too few to draw conclusions. There is an opinion that since they won back for their homeland, they deserved an amnesty. But I don’t understand how this should work, because at least two of those who went home were in prison for murder and the term was still long. How, for example, will a local district police officer behave? I think they will certainly be afraid of the boss to do something, but how long will this fear last and up to what situations, and even if the number of such amnestied people increases, then somehow I can’t believe that many will not break loose. "Ordinary" soldiers are returning, some have come in and out several times, while those who have been mobilized seem to have to be at the front for at least half a year, but this is not certain. Here, the LDNR seems to have big problems with rest, I don’t know about the “people’s militia” directly, but those mobilized with this have problems, there were many appeals from relatives. In my opinion, everyone should have one charter, rights, rules, equipment.
        3. +5
          January 10 2023
          Quote: fa2998
          It's also unclear. Having served 6 months for criminals - amnesty, removal of a criminal record and home.

          This means that there is a big surge of crime and banditry ahead. Thousands of criminals, hardened in battle... be in trouble.
        4. 0
          January 12 2023
          Maybe 6 months is considered only at the forefront?
      2. +3
        January 9 2023
        but about the mobilized, how many were taken away? if 3 months in training and 3 months at the front, then six months will end in the spring ... in the spring a new set?
        .... to earn good money by Russian standards .... this is an incentive) smiled. things in their proper names ... the more chaos in the economy, the more volunteers
      3. +2
        January 9 2023
        The other day, an acquaintance won back six months, rested for two weeks and left again for six months
      4. +2
        January 9 2023
        How not to be! As soon as the demobilization order is issued, it will be possible to leave (dismiss) from the troops ..
    9. +11
      January 9 2023

      Only contract soldiers and volunteers participate in the fighting.

      The author of these lines has neither honor nor conscience!
      Those. We didn’t have mobilization, did everyone sign up as volunteers?
      The hypocrisy is simply amazing!
      1. +3
        January 9 2023
        Quote: Zoer

        Only contract soldiers and volunteers participate in the fighting.

        The author of these lines has neither honor nor conscience!
        Those. We didn’t have mobilization, did everyone sign up as volunteers?
        The hypocrisy is simply amazing!

        Elementary Watson! ALL mobilized were forced to sign contracts.
        But what are the conditions there? Terms. Ex-convicts have 6 months. request
        1. -1
          January 9 2023
          "It's also not clear. Having served 6 months for criminals - amnesty, removal of a criminal record and home."

          And how many of them remain alive, taking into account the fact that for the most part they are fighting in assault units, in the most difficult areas. And many are ready to return and continue. You yourself don’t want to conclude a contract with Prigogine, in an assault unit, for half a year in total and they pay normal money. Don't like it, just 6 months home. wink
        2. -1
          January 10 2023
          Quote: fa2998
          Elementary Watson! ALL mobilized were forced to sign contracts.

          Volunteers also sign contracts ... Then they would write that only contract soldiers are fighting.
          This verbiage is aimed at only one thing, to quickly erase the shameful mobilization campaign from the memory of the population.
      2. -13
        January 9 2023
        Do not confuse mobilization with conscription. The conscript serves himself. Mobilized for zp went to fight. These are people who have already served and conscripts who have served for three months and wished to conclude a contract. Trained for at least four weeks. Zp and those and others in the region of 200k
        You just got something mixed up. The recruit will not go there even if he wants to. Believe me. Because I asked
      3. +3
        January 9 2023
        Quote: Zoer

        Only contract soldiers and volunteers participate in the fighting.

        The author of these lines has neither honor nor conscience!
        Those. We didn’t have mobilization, did everyone sign up as volunteers?
        The hypocrisy is simply amazing!

        What are you talking about? Of course - contractors .., and volunteers, who are also contract soldiers.
        If someone does not sign the contract, how can he pay 200? Or 000, it doesn't matter.
        All participants in the CBO sign a contract. Either he signed it before the start of the NWO, or after receiving the summons.
        1. -4
          January 9 2023
          Well, maybe not everyone wanted to sign a contract. wassat
          Well .., well, category "a", the shooter and the driver in a "voluntary-compulsory" order wassat
          And the rest of the categories, second-class people, it turns out wassat
          Well, many want, including me, but do not take. Discrimination am
      4. 0
        January 9 2023
        Partially mobilized people are also given a contract. Whoever foolishly rolls his lip for a lump sum payment is no longer mobilized, but a contract soldier.
        The overwhelming majority of such people are poor and legally illiterate.
    10. -1
      January 9 2023
      Knowing the realities, we can assume about the washing of young, weak brains of conscripts.
      A contractor, like a volunteer, falls under the bureaucratic "we didn't call you, you yourself came ....." with a corresponding arrogant disregard attitude
      1. 0
        January 9 2023
        “Knowing the realities, one can assume about the washing of young, weak brains of conscripts.
        A contractor, like a volunteer, falls under the bureaucratic "we didn't call you, you yourself came ....." with the corresponding arrogant disregard attitude "

        And where did you see a normal military unit where there is no brainwashing (according to your brainwashing), during the service, a fighter should be proud of his unit and his belonging to it, otherwise this is not a service, but a serving time.
    11. 0
      January 9 2023
      You can't send young people. Haram
      1. +5
        January 9 2023
        Quote: chingachguc
        You can't send young people. Haram

        Tell me, was it possible to go to Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia, or is it something else.
        Yes, and not necessarily on the front line, you can use it as commandant's units, protect the rear.
        1. -1
          January 9 2023
          Quote: Havoc
          Yes, and not necessarily on the front line, you can use it as commandant's units, protect the rear.

          For one fighter of the first line, five in the near rear.
        2. +3
          January 10 2023
          Quote: Havoc
          Tell me, was it possible to go to Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia, or is it something else.

          Why are you answering a question with a question? You can immediately rephrase your question into a statement - since thousands of zinc coffins with 18-year-olds, women who didn’t fuck boys properly, came from Afghanistan and Chechnya, this is how they should go now. Is that what you wanted to say?

          Quote: Havoc
          not necessarily on the front line, can be used as commandant units, guard the rear

          Yeah, protect the BC from the Himars. There is no alternative to a professional army with network-centric combat control systems. Even the Chinese understood this long ago and created a professional army, where there is a tough selection. There is no sense in a recruit who is also 18-20 years old without accumulated knowledge and physical training. Maybe someone will pull, full of guys by 18 and already men. But the vast majority, excuse me, are children who have curling irons and girls in their heads. Just the experience of Chechnya shows how pointless it is to throw essentially rosy-cheeked children to the front. But many were imprisoned in units along the Urals, the awning was closed and opened in Grozny literally under the explosions. The Chechens distinguished them by earflaps, contractors usually wore black knitted hats, and I am familiar with one native of Grozny, I said that they could be seen from a mile away by their hats with earflaps and rosy cheeks and clumsy behavior, and he assured that he had never shot at them, to them there was no that ferocious hatred for contract soldiers (especially), VV, FSB, GRU. At the beginning of the war, quite a few conscripts ended up at the front and were taken prisoner, but it seems like they were able to quickly restore order in this matter and we don’t hear about conscripts anymore. If now we step on this rake again, then the effect is unlikely to help, I would not ignore the power of thousands of mothers who cannot and will not be silent. After all, it’s one thing, even if he’s young, but he passed the deadline and signed a contract, then he died, it’s another if he died at the front during the deadline, it’s a lot of people staggering.
          1. 0
            January 10 2023
            [quote = karabas-barabas] [quote = Havoc] Tell me, could you go to Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia, or something else. [/ Quote]
            Why are you answering a question with a question? You can immediately rephrase your question into a statement - since thousands of zinc coffins with 18-year-olds, women who didn’t fuck boys properly, came from Afghanistan and Chechnya, this is how they should go now. Is that what you wanted to say?

            At least you understood what you wrote. For you, the army is that a scouting organization? So why then spend billions on the maintenance thereof.
            In the world of the army, they exist to fight at the right time. Another issue is recruitment and training, but in Russia gigantic territories and contract soldiers cannot be closed by both PMCs and volunteers. How are you going to control the territory of the left bank if ours go further, here we need either a new call or the introduction of combat units.
            As for the conscripts in Chechnya, I could tell you how the conscripts of the Marine Corps of the Northern Fleet fought heroically, but here you can’t tell in a nutshell.
            1. 0
              January 10 2023
              Quote: Havoc
              For you, the army is that a scouting organization?

              The fact of the matter is that it’s not, but I wrote above what the army looks like at the moment, professionals, high technology, high protection for each individual employee, up to social protection. At least 2 years of exercises in front of the database, each in his profile goes through a series of exercises, courses, since modern technology is Lego from different systems, often connected by BUS, BMP crews in general in 2 years only according to a compressed system will become real pros, more likely to be 3-4 years of internship, so that a squirrel in a point on the go to peel, so that they know the equipment, means of communication. But on the other hand, such an army will be guaranteed to bring down 1 to 10, or almost without loss, like the Americans in Iraq. Just because psychologically and professionally at a minimum, zero level in 2 years it is quite possible to get stronger, 3 months to the level of kamikaze, perhaps. It’s just that there are a lot of videos from the front and from the very beginning, and there I remember one video where it was immediately clear that it was not fighters. The column was apparently ambushed, under fire, and someone has a camera on their heads. Well, let's dismount, but only so clumsily, about 20 people, close to each other, buried their trunks in each other's backs, hid, like, behind some kind of motorcycle league, or BMP, in short, the video is short, but the batch seems to be serious, I'm afraid it won't be there for a long time stood, until the first RPG in the barrel on the other side, or a mortar. Some slowly slipped even out of the way, I hope these had time. There you could see the stiffness of the soldiers, by their gaits, by some signs it was clear that they were very young guys. Today, the level of modern military equipment is very high, NATO intelligence facilities are simply omnipotent at the moment because of their AFAR satellites, they constantly monitor everything they are interested in in real time, in high quality, the resolution is up to 5 cm for the Americans, the French 30 cm. This allows you to already know all the movements, everything that is in the open air, roads, Russian Railways. Then, of course, heavy UAVs, AWACS, with a rather large capture depth. But even the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a network-centricity that feeds artillery and the Air Force with targets, each picture, from each drone, camera goes live to the stream, where the picture becomes a coordinate and the one who hits faster hits there. Here is an example, the Armed Forces of Ukraine prepared well, gained experience from NATO, and the RF Armed Forces hoped for a 20-fold superiority in artillery systems and a 60-fold superiority in shells, in the old fashioned way by consolidated brigades, they would figure it out on the spot. At the front, where well-coordinated professionals work, the Armed Forces of Ukraine also have problems there, and their territorial defense cannot overthrow them, as a result there are breakthroughs, killed and captured Armed Forces of Ukraine. But there should have been such people across the entire breadth of the offensive chain, and even in the Russian Federation, with its up to myo veterans, reservists with experience and health up to 40k and half a million of the National Guard, etc., it has the potential to create not the most modern, but effective fist, which could well have been successful. But at first it was not so, and then they began to supplement those whom they would find, to put it mildly. Therefore, local successes are not consolidated, on the flanks with experience there is not much success. By the way, let me remind you why the Wehrmacht was terrible and strong and why? Yes, because the Germans, with their pedantry and education, quietly from the sanctions, trained each corporal to such a level that in many armies he could become a colonel. This was done in order to somehow comply with the Treaty of Versailles, they say the army is small, only 200 can be like the Germans. But when Hitler became more and more indifferent to sanctions, these "corporals" became experienced non-commissioned officers and were able, in turn, to train dozens of each. And as we know, from the very beginning of World War II, the Wehrmacht quite cheerfully, partly with small forces and almost without loss, carried out a lot of brilliant operations against a not weak enemy at that time, precisely thanks to professionalism and technical superiority. I just thought, right up to antiquity, there are examples when small, but professional armies with more accurate arrows, or thick chain mail, beat large ones mixed with experienced elite ones. The Roman legions for 1000 years clearly beat everyone, as long as there was discipline. And the discipline was because they were professionals.
    12. +1
      January 9 2023
      Currently, conscripts are not sent to participate in a special military operation. Only contract soldiers and volunteers participate in the fighting. However, no one can deprive an adult citizen of Russia of the right to defend his homeland.

      Partial mobilization... I received the summons, came, said that I was not ready to sign the contract, and went home. Logically...
      That's right, the press secretary writes. So that nothing would soil the dress uniform of the leader.
    13. +10
      January 9 2023
      Quote: igorbrsv
      Mobilized for zp went to fight.

      Quote: igorbrsv
      Mobilized for zp went to fight.

      For a salary, you can voluntarily go to mine gold or something else. Yes, do anything!
      MOBILIZED - these are forcibly "torn out" from their usual life, "shaved off" and sent to serve. You say "departed" so calmly !!. It seems like on a watch or rest. what
    14. -5
      January 9 2023
      Any serviceman of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (RF Armed Forces) who is on active duty on conscription may take part in a special military operation. However, for this he will have to sign a contract. This was stated to TASS by the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin Dmitry Peskov.

      To participate in the SVO, a conscript must make this decision voluntarily. To participate in a special operation, a conscripted serviceman must switch to contract service, that is, conclude a contract. Then the conscript will be able to go to participate in a special operation without any problems.

      According to current legislation, to conclude a contract, you must serve in the army for at least three months. But there are exceptions: conscripts with a higher professional education can conclude a contract immediately after being called up for military service.

      - a normal decision, if a person went into the army, then he should be ready to defend and carry out orders, and secondly - they say, they will not send anyone by force ...
    15. GN
      -1
      January 9 2023
      Very correct and timely decision! Because the existing bias was created by the fifth column for the complete collapse of the army! Indeed, there is a war and the army was divided before and after! Rave!
      1. 0
        January 10 2023
        Quote: G N
        Because the existing bias was created by the fifth column for the complete collapse of the army!

        Those. Commander-in-Chief and Minister of Defense fifth column?
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    17. +6
      January 9 2023
      the fact that they don’t attract conscripts who have served more than six months to the SVO, but send mobilized men there for 40 years who have forgotten how to hold a machine gun in their hands is nonsense. War is for the young. Why then do we need an army of conscripts if they cannot defend the country. Stupidity on stupidity.
      1. -2
        January 10 2023
        "War is a matter for the young. Why then do we need an army of conscripts if they cannot defend the country. Stupidity on stupidity."

        "War is a matter of the young. A cure for wrinkles." - this is the approach of the average man in the street. The state at the moment cannot and should not use young men in local military conflicts, because This is the country's gene pool. Politics - "women are still giving birth" did not justify itself, before the WWI, the population of Russia was about 250 million, after the WWI, the Revolution, the Civil War, the Second World War, Afghanistan, Chechnya and the withdrawal of territories with the collapse of the USSR (together with the population), today we have less 150 million. Roughly 100 million have been lost in 100 years. The demographic hole after the Second World War continues, and women are not particularly eager to give birth. According to this, my personal opinion is that it is necessary to introduce a tax on childlessness, well, at least 10 percent for both sexes, a restriction for the use of childless men under 25 years old in local conflicts, compulsory military service with a service life of 1 year (if necessary, even more) provided that this year they will be driven like sidorov goats precisely for combat training with maximum interchangeability in the unit, physio, and not just drill and external outfits with guards. And whoever is in poor health or faith does not allow for the same period to provide just revenge parade grounds, cook food, wash dishes, hospital orderlies, floor polishers, and most importantly, so that there is no way to mow. Well, who can still, no civil service and work in state-owned enterprises for life. "Why then do we need an army of conscripts at all ..." - so that the majority of the male population receives stable skills and abilities in handling weapons and equipment of the country currently in service and, in the event of a threat of a large-scale conflict, not to throw untrained people into battle , as dill does now.
        1. -1
          January 10 2023
          Which they forget in 10, 5 years, and not which they forget even after a year, yeah.
        2. +2
          January 10 2023
          "before WWI, the population of Russia was about 250 million" - I certainly apologize, but where does such a figure come from? The maximum that came across was the number of the entire Republic of Ingushetia - 180 million people.
    18. -1
      January 9 2023
      Contract service should at least be concluded with those who have at least completed their studies and received a military specialty.
      Age here does not matter 18 or 25, the army does not need "cannon fodder" to fulfill the plans of the Ministry of Defense, who will be shot in the very first clash, but people who have completed at least three months of intensive combat training and have successfully passed the relevant exams and standards.
      1. 0
        January 10 2023
        Those who have undergone intensive training, at least for a month, are all one cannon fodder. Only a real battle and survival in the first, second and subsequent ones will make a professional fighter out of a mobilized or conscript. This is with regards to mahr, anti-tank gunners, on direct fire and "tractor operators", who are in direct contact with the adversary on the front line. Launching drones and something like that is not so critical.
    19. -1
      January 10 2023
      Quote: Traveler_2
      It’s interesting then that’s what - why do we have conscripts at all then? Why do we serve in the army by conscription? If a soldier can fight only voluntarily and under contract. And the draft army for furniture, or what?
    20. +3
      January 10 2023
      I still don't understand the decision about conscripts.
      After all, they serve in a real army, occupy some positions in units, and now a unit must perform combat missions, and this is such a knuckle for her: except for conscripts!
      And let's re-assemble crews, groups, if at all there is someone to fill.
      And in the end, like, a regiment, which is never 100% staffed anyway, is reduced in number, and staffing duties either hang in the air or fall on others.
      And in the units there is also a category of female servicemen, and also more than a dozen in the regiment. And there are also a lot of restrictions on their use for the commander, both legislative, and moral or physiological. So with them, for example, it’s clear to me - a woman is still not a man, no matter what anyone says.
      And the conscript? Not a warrior?
    21. +3
      January 10 2023
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      We need not only fighters for the trenches, but also specialists, of whom there are many aged 35+.

      Professionals who know how to professionally engage enemy manpower and equipment should also sit in the trenches. I wonder what kind of specialists aged 35+ who have not been in the army for a single day and have not undergone military training?
    22. 0
      January 10 2023
      Quote from Alexwar
      I have a question for most of the contract for six months, so others will be sent soon? Wagner PMCs were recently released by those who were imprisoned and those who fought for six months in total. And it’s not clear with this mobilization what to do with these six months?

      And an even bigger question is why citizens who do not have a military specialty are not called up for mobilization, but those with a military specialty are called up? Train for the same 3 months and go forward to defend the Fatherland. Among those who did not serve and do not have a higher educational institution, not only those who, for health reasons or other reasons determined by law, can not serve and not fight, but also many deviators. Where is social justice? Or did the state, represented by volunteers and those mobilized for war, decide to lose the best part of society, its hope and support?
      1. +2
        January 10 2023
        And an even bigger question is why citizens who do not have a military specialty are not called up for mobilization, but those with a military specialty are called up? Train within the same 3 months and forward to defend the Fatherland

        And trains with asthmatics, diabetics and epileptics will go to the front, because here's a surprise, everyone who has fallen off is already sitting over the hill ... And there will be cheerful grinding of category B, D at the front, and on TV they will talk about our people. Immediately, the fools write that everything is going according to plan, and carpet bombing on dill and the use of tactical nuclear weapons is unacceptable
    23. +4
      January 10 2023
      Currently, conscripts are not sent to participate in a special military operation. Only contract soldiers and volunteers participate in the fighting.

      Oh how, and where did the mobilized go? O_o, or is it now forced contractors?
      1. +3
        January 10 2023
        You ask uncomfortable questions, "the user is uncomfortable"
    24. -1
      January 10 2023
      conscripts are not sent to participate in a special military operation. Only contract soldiers and volunteers participate in the fighting.

      I contribute my five cents (in the sense of clarity): conscripts -> volunteers -> contract soldiers.
      Here the naive asked, why do we need conscripts in the army ... "There is such a profession - to defend the Motherland"
      (officers)
    25. +2
      January 10 2023
      Now these conscripts will be "patronized" by Colonel-General Alexander Lapin, who has been appointed chief of the General Staff of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces, RBC and the Ura.ru news agency reported, citing sources in the Defense Ministry.
      According to Izvestia, in his new position, Lapin will have to plan combat training and control the rearmament of units and formations of the Ground Forces.
      Until the end of October 2022, Lapin was the commander of the Center grouping of Russian troops in Ukraine. On October 29, the media reported that he had been removed from this position.
      The reasons were not specified, which is a pity.
    26. 0
      January 10 2023
      ...currently...not forwarded...
      ... naturally ... they themselves want to go ...


      Peskov, thank you for this information.
      In general, everything is clear, we are not fools, we understand everything - by spring, the trenches will be filled with conscripts.
      But only volunteers.
    27. 0
      January 10 2023
      I don’t understand if there is at least someone here who has a loved one mobilized! Wake up, what contracts? The mobilized were sent from the Leningrad Region, after 3 weeks to the unit, NOBODY signed the contract, a hodgepodge of volunteers and slaves, from 25 to 65 years old, who served and did not serve. So, no one offered them contracts, after the announcement of a lump-sum they came up, offered contracts, NO ONE signed !!!! And they have been in the NWO zone since October, not on the front end, praise to Perun, but still !!! And you are writing nonsense here, saying that everyone who is there is on a contract! It is not true.
    28. +1
      January 14 2023
      That's interesting, many are outraged that one year of service is not enough for a full-fledged training of a soldier, they require at least two years. And then three months and that's it, you can go to war.

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