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Russia can increase 1,2 to millions of square kilometers

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The fact that the territory of Russia may well grow, has recently become somehow not customary to say. Any talk about the fact that the Russian Federation claims to one or another part of the territory, water area or shelf, ultimately by interested parties can be reduced to the concept of the next "imperial capture." Moreover, since the Soviet Union disappeared from the world map, the subject is often discussed, according to which Russia should bestow many of its neighbors with generous territorial gifts: Japan - the South Kuriles, Germany - the Kaliningrad region, Finland - the western part of Karelia and further - by the list.



However, all these ideas that are expressed, including by highly respected people in Russia (for example, Alexander Sokurov), are more like strange attempts to justify something in front of foreign countries for something. At the same time, supporters of these ideas forget about the interests of their own people, who at one time managed to fully embrace those territories that today constitute a country like the Russian Federation.

It is gratifying to acknowledge the fact that Russia not only does not intend to donate its lands, like the fake “Kemu parish” Ivan Vasilyevich the Terrible from the famous Soviet film, but also tries to multiply its territories.

Recently, research of Russian expeditions that (studies) have been conducted for a long time on the territory of the Arctic has been increasingly discussed. During these studies, about 20 thousands of soil samples were taken from the bottom of the Arctic Ocean. Such impressive volumes of mined soil should be the final point in proving the exclusivity of Russia's right to use more than 1 million square kilometers of the Arctic territory, which is full of an incredible amount of natural resources.

The director general of the scientific enterprise Sevmorgeo, Mikhail Shkatov, reports that the Russian delegation will update Russia’s application to the UN for ownership of the continental shelf in the Arctic. It is precisely the Arctic ground that the scientists extracted with the help of the military should, in the near future, serve as a “material evidence” of the fact that the territory of the Russian continental shelf in the Arctic reaches, not less, the North Pole. If United Nations experts do not repair contrived obstacles for the Russian delegation, the Russian sea (offshore) borders in the Arctic can be moved deep into the Arctic Ocean, and Russia will grow 1,2 million square kilometers of underwater territory and sea area.

To address this issue, a special group from Russia left for New York, which should initiate a new stage of work on the consideration of the Russian application. The work itself consists of three stages, the first of which (extraction of soil samples from the ocean floor) has already been completed. Accordingly, such stages as the legal substantiation of new frontiers remain on the basis of the analysis of the obtained bottom soil samples, as well as the international recognition of the expansion of the sea (shelf) borders of Russia in the Arctic.

For obvious reasons, even if the second stage is successful, then with the third stage, everything may not be so straightforward. The fact is that evidence in the form of soil samples from the bottom of the Arctic Ocean is one thing, but the apparent unwillingness of the very world community to recognize Russia's right to new territories (including underwater) is quite another. It is obvious that the UN will do everything to delay the adoption of such an important decision for Russia.

To realize the fact that the world community is not at all eager to recognize Russia’s right for a whole million square kilometers in the Arctic, it suffices to recall the installation of the Russian tricolor at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean by Artur Chilingarov’s expedition in 2007. Then, immediately after the publication of the photographs in which the Russian flag was depicted, showing the belonging of the Arctic shelf of Russia, the West spoke in the most negative colors about this. Lightning critics flew both into Chilingarov himself and toward the Russian president, who allegedly uses almost medieval methods to indicate the borders of the state. Here is a star-striped cloth on the moon, so, you know, not medieval manners, but the Russian flag under the ice of the Arctic is an obvious “imperial whim”.

This episode alone indicates that the “global community” will be clearly negatively disposed towards Russian ambitions.
By the way, you need to keep in mind another version of events. It lies in the fact that the application of the Russian Federation to the possession of the Arctic shelf at the UN can "study" so long that during this time the West may well initiate the adoption of some kind of "Antarctic" version of the "notion" of the Arctic. As is known, Antarctica is a territory that legally does not belong to any state of the world, and at the same time is a global treasure. The West can push the same status in relation to the Arctic. It would seem that the “world community” wants to preserve the ecosystem of the region and not give a hand to the innumerable wealth of world corporations, and therefore Russia should take these ideas as a basis. But on closer examination, there is no environmental concern on the part of the West here. The same United States would have long used the resources of Antarctica if they could be easily reached ...

It turns out that all these big words of the West about saving the world from an environmental threat is a fiction. What kind of world salvation is there if the United States has not yet ratified the so-called Kyoto Protocol, which obliges countries to reduce or stabilize greenhouse gas emissions into the Earth’s atmosphere? And Canada is so out of this agreement ... So much for the salvation of Mother Nature ...

In this regard, I would like to count on the fact that the Russian delegation will systematically go to the goal and on the world stage will prove the viability of Russia's territorial claims in the Arctic. To retreat is to create a very negative precedent.
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  1. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 9 November 2012 08: 26
    +49
    Don't give a damn about the "world community" ...
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 9 November 2012 08: 35
      +23
      Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov, Commander of the General Staff, Army General Nikolai Makarov will be removed from the post in the near future. Colonel General Vladimir Shamanov will become the first deputy minister of defense.

      reserve admiral Nikolai Maksimov, the former commander of the Russian Northern Fleet, became the head of the Kuznetsov Naval Academy, RIA Novosti reports.
      1. YARY
        YARY 9 November 2012 09: 23
        +13
        I don't give a damn! Amanita Edik the rodent gave the lope of our sea-ocean? And stsuko breathed evenly and SyShyA not reddened.
        Why cheat, wrap everything up at home nadot!
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 9 November 2012 09: 40
        +13
        I hope these will be more responsible and will do what they should? In general, I am in a few ah ... ai after dismissal of Serdyukov and revealed fraud. This is not even fraud - this is direct wrecking and treason.
        1. alexdol
          alexdol 9 November 2012 11: 00
          +5
          Wedmak RU ".. this is direct sabotage and treason to the Motherland." it's about Serdyukov
          Judging by the statements of most visitors to the site - it really is! But in this case, the case should not be limited to a simple resignation !?
          PUNISHMENT must also follow! But "Mr." Medvedev believes that everything is not at all so, that Serdyukov coped with his duties EXCELLENTLY ?! What is it, maybe it's time to apply measures of influence to "Mr." Medvedev ?!
      3. Aventurinka
        Aventurinka 9 November 2012 10: 22
        +2
        Already today, the Russian media issued completely unexpected news. In many publications, it was formulated as follows: “Shoigu will be taken into the deputies of General Shamanov, whom they hate in Chechnya.”
        ...
        If, with such a track record, the Shamans are still appointed deputy Shoigu in the Ministry of Defense, this will not bring authority to the Minister himself in the eyes of the Caucasians, nor peace to the Caucasus itself ...

        http://kavpolit.com/usmirit-li-shojgu-kavkaz-2/
        I don’t really want to comment, but only today I read this article, I could not but quote. The problem was, is and will probably be. With such articles ...
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 9 November 2012 10: 32
          +4
          Magomed Tuaev, Tamila Shakhbanova, and Ahmad Buro

          And who are all these people?
          1. Aventurinka
            Aventurinka 9 November 2012 10: 47
            0
            Journalists probably request
        2. YARY
          YARY 9 November 2012 13: 06
          +5
          Julia sweet lady
          The Caucasus of Russia is a failure!
          And military affairs are not being done with caution, not politics tea!
          Well, in some places of Russia generals disliked
          Suvorov
          Kutuzova
          Romanova
          Lazarev (admiral)
          Apraksin
          Many were disliked, but they would not have been in their place if this dislike was an important factor in deciding, where would you be a sweet young lady?
          1. Aventurinka
            Aventurinka 9 November 2012 13: 26
            +1
            Quote: Ardent
            where would you be

            Well, how can I tell you.
            I perceive this as part of the information that can be used to identify cause-effect relationships in compiling my personal opinion on various situations occurring within our homeland. And you?
            Judging by the comment, it’s like an attempt to influence the decision-making of the country's leadership by journalists of the territorial online publication.
            And my aiding in this.
            This conclusion is not true.
            Quote: Ardent
            The Caucasus of Russia is a failure!
            +!
          2. datur
            datur 9 November 2012 20: 48
            +3
            and also forgot- HOLY GLORY, yes ALEXANDER NEVSKY yes , DMITRY DONSKY yes AND PRINCE OF POZHARSKY WITH MININ feel yes they, too, in some circles are not used to this day, and so what ????? Yes, we do not care about their popularity from a high tower !!!! feel yes laughing
      4. slas
        slas 9 November 2012 21: 18
        +1
        Quote: Vadivak
        In the near future, the Chief of the General Staff, Army General Nikolai Makarov, will be removed from office.

        Already - removed Radish yes
    2. bazilio
      bazilio 9 November 2012 08: 38
      +17
      It’s unnecessary to spit on the world community, otherwise the RF will be different from the USA. It is necessary to convince the world community, and one of the best arguments for persuasion is a powerful defense industry and the armed forces.
      1. dimon-media
        dimon-media 9 November 2012 09: 54
        +8
        Try a flock of sheep to prove something? If they rested their horn and stand their ground, all the more on the basis of the principle - (the rusk will do without the Arctic) then this is a stupid undertaking to conduct any negotiations and beliefs. In which case, you just need to spit on their baseless beliefs and stereotypes. Sheep and donkeys understand only a whip or a stick on the ribs.
        How has China recently expressed an address to the United States about the disputed islands with Japan, when those, as usual, began to stick sticks in the wheels? Beijing answered them in monosyllables, - SHUT UP. So we need to also respond succinctly. There is someone to take an example.
        1. v53993
          v53993 9 November 2012 10: 25
          +5
          Try a flock of sheep to prove something? If they rested their horn and stand their ground, all the more on the basis of the principle - (the rusk will do without the Arctic) then this is a stupid undertaking to conduct any negotiations and beliefs.


          What to do with an American ram? Implement the recommendations of V.S. Vysotsky - "... along his horns and between the horns ..."
          1. dimon-media
            dimon-media 9 November 2012 10: 38
            +1
            Vladimir Semenych was wise)) I agree with his position)
        2. bazilio
          bazilio 9 November 2012 10: 55
          +3
          Dimon- I do not agree with you. If you only rely on force without having a logical justification base for your actions, sooner or later you can run into isolation from the world community, veto, embargo, investment outflow, etc. And then the next 300 years, the country will remember its forceful methods of solving the problem. The Turks are still reminded of the Armenian Genocide, but what, Indians have already begun to remember the Americans. In addition, solving the issue by force will ultimately create a state of permanent war. As for me, it is logical, with reference to the objective conclusions of experts and the norms of the MP, to work out their position on the issue of the Arctic shelf, and to exclude or suppress possible attempts at encroachments by means of forceful measures. Simply put, the model should look like this - "this is our territory, because (arguments, evidence). If someone tries to squeeze this territory out of us, we will pile up". And in your proposed edition, the model of behavior will be like this - "hey, boys, this is my area because I said so, there is something to say - meet on the scoreboard"
          1. 16 REGION
            16 REGION 9 November 2012 11: 27
            +2
            I completely agree.
            I’m wondering why our leaders do not stir up the same balot square in the states? before their elections it would be the most!
            1. the polar
              the polar 9 November 2012 21: 51
              +1
              Because they have houses and families in Landon
          2. igor_ua.
            igor_ua. 9 November 2012 12: 11
            +3
            hi You see what’s the matter, these very Europeans who are against us, they don’t understand the arguments. Therefore, it all comes down to
            "this is my area because I said so, there is something to say - meet in the scoreboard"
            ))
        3. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 10 November 2012 00: 36
          +1
          We must do Chinese! More precisely, as they did in the 19th century - they came to a new territory (some islands in Indonesia, for example) and began to live. And they lived and behaved in such a way that after a while it was already impossible to do without them! So you need to start mastering, and if you wait for someone's "permission", then this someone will be the first to master our good!
      2. alatau_09
        alatau_09 9 November 2012 10: 43
        +7
        Under the USSR, no one disputed the belonging of the Arctic sector to the pole, remember the map of the Union) ...
        ... and it came to what it came to be that the heiress of the USSR, the Russian Federation, must prove her right of inheritance ... There can be only one argument here - POWERFUL AF and the toughness of defending positions, since the policy of the Jews is like a cliché - to chatter or push as much as possible and bite ... or simply, with the weakness of the opponent, in a boorish way "use someone else's property" as your own ...
        1. urzul
          urzul 9 November 2012 11: 14
          +4
          Japan and China also did not recall the controversial islets until they found a deposit there.
      3. 16 REGION
        16 REGION 9 November 2012 11: 20
        +4
        Quote: bazilio
        It’s unnecessary to spit on the world community, otherwise the RF will be different from the USA. It is necessary to convince the world community, and one of the best arguments for persuasion is a powerful defense industry and the armed forces.

        it is not the defense industry that must prove its advantage, but a tough foreign policy that does not depend on anyone. how much money is allocated for defense but there is no sense. until the people of our homeland stand financially on their feet, until then, we will continue to stand up in the eyes of the world community. Yes, and who needs these territories, they will still prosrut.
        We and our leaders understand the word HOMELAND in different ways, where we live and where they can sell something!
      4. Ascetic
        Ascetic 9 November 2012 17: 28
        +10
        Quote: bazilio
        It is necessary to convince the world community, and one of the best arguments for persuasion is a powerful defense industry and the armed forces.


        . Arctic is our inland sea And the point. Kingdom Russian bear
        They are not required to prove anything to anyone.

    3. severe
      severe 9 November 2012 09: 23
      -15
      There is a saying: if you spit in the world community, it will rub off, but if the world community spits in you, you will drown smile
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 9 November 2012 09: 43
        +19
        The words "world community" are already more reminiscent of the words "world bandit represented by the United States."
      2. Averias
        Averias 9 November 2012 09: 45
        +23
        And what, let me ask you, is this world community? A crowd of rotten and lazy "democrats" who have no opinion, or a crowd of homosexuals, lesbians, perverts of all stripes? Where they try to eradicate the very concept of family - mom and dad, turning them into faceless - family members, those who are trying to do this are members. In Australia, children are starting to get it into their heads that heterosexuality is bad. Yes, in the grave I saw a community in which true values ​​are perverted, history is rewritten, villains are made heroes and vice versa. What good has the world community done at least for themselves lately? Wherever you spit, the crisis is striding by leaps and bounds, demonstrations, clashes with the police, growing unemployment and so on. From hunger and saliva, they won't have enough to spit at us. Refined schizophrenics with signs of progressive paranoia.
        Reservation, I don’t row all under one comb, among them there are many great and worthy people. Just the comment was in general, so I wrote in general.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 9 November 2012 09: 59
          +5
          And hell knows what it is ... From his mention already smells rotten, such a vile, slimy mass, capable of only devouring everything and everything.
          1. severe
            severe 9 November 2012 10: 03
            +3
            for me at the words "world community" why do they think McDuck)))
          2. Averias
            Averias 9 November 2012 10: 07
            0
            I addressed my comment to severen. Just did not indicate. Excuse me :))
        2. vadimN
          vadimN 9 November 2012 10: 44
          +3
          An absolutely correct definition of the "world community"! It is no longer worthy of being reckoned with. Moreover, all the thoughts and aspirations of this very community are based on the position "What do you want?" before the USA.

          In this world, everyone enjoys the authority that he was able to get for himself. But it is obtained by rigidity in upholding his interests, the interests of his people, his country.
          1. SMUTIAN
            SMUTIAN 11 November 2012 20: 17
            0
            Why is our delegation going to New York, so that there would be someone in something
            assure? Is there too much honor? If the states wanted to tear
            in the name of its rotten democracy, a piece of a foreign state, but what’s there
            piece, and would not ask anyone. The delegation must be returned
            go and explore your land. fool
        3. Ortrega
          Ortrega 9 November 2012 19: 12
          +1
          Quote: Averias
          A crowd of rotten and lazy "democrats" who have no opinion, or a crowd of homosexuals, lesbians, perverts of all stripes? Where they try to eradicate the very concept of family - mom and dad, turning them into faceless - family members, those who are trying to do this are members. In Australia, children are starting to get it into their heads that heterosexuality is bad. Yes, I saw such a community in a coffin,

          How much you want from such a community to close with an iron curtain stop and make an entry through passes or through a practitioner lol
        4. slas
          slas 9 November 2012 21: 31
          0
          http://warfiles.ru/show-17373-sobytiya-dnya-vzglyad-patriota-09112012.html---- "хруст французской булки "---интересно почитать о западной жизни
      3. vorobey
        vorobey 9 November 2012 10: 06
        +25
        As our deputy head of the battalion said. Well, the youth went - no respect for the elders. in the face you spit immediately fight to climb.

        Spit and throw poop a lot of mind is not necessary. You just need to stupidly once they landed troops, then scientists landed, builders dropped off to them, their families drove them to, then again landed troops to protect them from polar bears, then the builders again brought them to build an airfield, school, kindergarten, built roads, added a warrior again , brought border guards, buried pillars, it is necessary to limit the territory. Well, everything is like in Civilization 3.

        And again we ask permission.
        1. Victor
          Victor 9 November 2012 11: 01
          +5
          Quote: vorobey
          And again we ask permission.

          I fully share your position. The consolidation of the territory should take place upon the fact that our troops, citizens and infrastructure are there. And there let them yell about imperial ambitions. I think that with Shoigu, our country, represented by the RF Armed Forces, will have worthy arguments for the right to own the Arctic territories.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 9 November 2012 11: 36
            +6
            Quote: Victor
            worthy arguments for the right to own the Arctic territories.


            Yes, I look and master that in principle is who. and human resources are now piling up. Look, judging by one MO how many people are released.
          2. Ortrega
            Ortrega 9 November 2012 19: 21
            +1
            Quote: Victor
            I think that with Shoigu, our country, represented by the RF Armed Forces, will have worthy arguments for the right to own the Arctic territories.

            As far as I remember this man, and I remember him from the founding of the Ministry of Emergencies, I always admired him. In all emergency situations, and he probably had them, he tried to personally take part.
            Today MO is one big emergency, I hope he can handle it too soldier good
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 9 November 2012 11: 14
          +3
          Quote: vorobey
          Well, everything is like in Civilization 3.

          That's just the problem is not enough for the people and everyone wants to live in Moscow
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 9 November 2012 11: 23
            +5
            I do not want! I want my house on the banks of the river and a small boat for fishing!
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 9 November 2012 12: 05
              +8
              Quote: Wedmak
              I do not want! I want my house on the banks of the river and a small boat for fishing


              Surely, the Motherland said it means you are driving and clearing up the Arctic, so that the bears would shower all the rest with empty bottles and use obscenities to bring the main idea that this place is already taken.
              1. Armata
                Armata 9 November 2012 12: 14
                +3
                Quote: vorobey
                so that the bears would shower all the rest with empty bottles and obscenities bring the main idea that this place was already taken.
                Sanya why bears solder? Well, you damn pest. laughing
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 9 November 2012 13: 23
                  +6
                  Quote: Mechanic
                  Well you damn pest


                  Eugene think what you say. This is an extra argument in our favor. Russian bears live there.
                  1. Ortrega
                    Ortrega 9 November 2012 19: 23
                    +1
                    Quote: vorobey
                    Russian bears live there.

                    And they do not drink too much, and so, a bit for sugarev drinks
                2. stroporez
                  stroporez 11 November 2012 11: 00
                  +1
                  these are our bears. we want to dance like that. vodka - garbage, let them think better about how Schaub we did not teach them to play pranks from Kalash
              2. starpom
                starpom 9 November 2012 14: 17
                +4
                Quote: vorobey
                then you go and sanctify the Arctic

                There are also small rivers on the shores of the Arctic, and you can put a house and buy a boat smile
          2. vorobey
            vorobey 9 November 2012 11: 39
            +4
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            not enough people


            I didn’t notice your comment a little higher, it turned out Victor answered.

            Quote: saturn.mmm
            everyone wants to live in Moscow


            And this is not a question at all. You can build more than one Moscow.
            If I'm not mistaken, Moscow and St. Petersburg are in America.
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 9 November 2012 11: 56
              +1
              Quote: vorobey
              And this is not a question at all. You can build more than one Moscow.

              Well, yes, the president recalled the thirties.
              Only those such as in the Moscow Region housing in England have prepared, some talk already there. Borders must be closed because only the lazy did not abuse.
        3. Sandov
          Sandov 10 November 2012 17: 10
          +1
          vorobey,
          It was so during the Soviet Union. In the North, life was in full swing. On the archipelagos, both the border guards and the air defense were covering everything, the American girls did not go there. Thank you gorby and ebn for our "happy" future.
      4. dimon-media
        dimon-media 9 November 2012 10: 12
        +3
        SEVEREN
        Most likely it, the world community, will simply wipe its sleeve off our delicious spit and downcast eyes agreeing with our decision. We have many trump cards against them. We can live without them anyway, and they can live without us .. hardly .. And do not care about the entire Anglo-Saxon and other Pindos colonized community. Let others bend under Uncle Sam, but not RUSSIA,
      5. sancho
        sancho 9 November 2012 10: 20
        +4
        If you follow your saying, then we will soon have only one Moscow volost. Neither Amer.y nor China have long been looking at the world community. Some, contrary to the decisions of the UN Security Council, climb with their crap everywhere and establish police order, while others build up their armed forces and presence in many geopolitical regions. And the stronger the state, the spit is THICKER!
      6. Busido
        Busido 9 November 2012 11: 26
        +4
        severe
        "There is a saying: if you spit on the world community it will drown, but if the world community spits on you you will drown "

        This is what they say about the collective. But the "world community" shows itself to us in a very colorful way. Moreover, it is not necessary to think for a long time, under the flag of this one face is the United States. This is not a team, but a bunch egoisticheskikh, selfish and against the logic of nature living. By the way, they are more than once given signals "what you sow, so will you reap." So you need to think about who the world community is. Nature wipes out, but they drown. Sowing war, devastation, hunger everywhere, get 2 hurricanes for 170 billion of damage, plus an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Not enough? It will still be. It’s not a pity for homosexuals, but there are people there too. And there are a lot of them. Amputation is not salvation. These are not prophecies, this is how history shows. Worldwide! Here, this way ...
      7. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 9 November 2012 12: 44
        +2
        severe,
        Quote: severen
        if the world community spits on you, you will drown


        Oh yeah! Only the lazy one does not spit in the direction of the United States, but at least henna!

        But the diplomacy textbook must be read and the more cunning it must be!
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 10 November 2012 23: 26
          0
          Quote: nick 1 and 2
          Oh yeah! Only the lazy one does not spit in the direction of the United States, but at least henna!

          The State Department even pisses in the eye, all God's dew!
      8. in reserve
        in reserve 9 November 2012 19: 47
        +3

        It is gratifying to acknowledge the fact that Russia not only does not intend to donate its lands, like the fake “Kemu parish” Ivan Vasilyevich the Terrible from the famous Soviet film, but also tries to multiply its territories.
    4. Averias
      Averias 9 November 2012 09: 40
      +3
      In fact, we don't care anyway. I don’t remember that we would be very puzzled by "attacks" and all kinds of accusations and demands of the West. There are a lot of examples, so I will not give them. If only one of the brightest is when Vladimir Putin tore up the slavish and humiliating agreement of the SORP (Production Sharing Agreement).
    5. Petrovich-2
      Petrovich-2 9 November 2012 10: 06
      +1
      Well, maybe not to spit, but to do it wisely.
      Talk to them like fools, like: yes, yes, darlings, everything is fine, but do it your own way. And tough enough. And use all possible tools for this.
    6. Kaa
      Kaa 9 November 2012 11: 21
      +4
      Quote: Cosmonaut
      Don't give a damn about the "world community" ...

      Why spend saliva? But to organize the delivery of soil samples to the UN headquarters, for example, to a submarine that pops up somewhere near Manhattan - it would be ... effective and efficient ... well, not through the air ... missiles deliver such weighty arguments ... Moreover, there were precedents, we have something to be proud of, and an occasion on the nose, 150th anniversary ...
    7. homeland
      homeland 9 November 2012 13: 29
      +1
      We will increase our fist and the ambitions of those who wish will immediately come to naught wink
    8. Lucky
      Lucky 9 November 2012 14: 28
      0
      Here it is precisely along the border that our ships, submarines and strategic bombers fly!
    9. Nick
      Nick 9 November 2012 22: 28
      +1
      Quote: Cosmonaut
      Don't give a damn about the "world community" ...

      It is high time to remember the old Soviet slogan of the Great Patriotic War ... "Not a step back!"
  2. StrateG
    StrateG 9 November 2012 08: 29
    +6
    All is correct. We were the first to discover the Arctic, it should belong to us. Even now it’s a world heritage, but as discoverers, most of us rely on us)
    1. Col.
      Col. 9 November 2012 09: 27
      +3
      Quote: StrateG
      We were the first to discover the Arctic, it should belong to us

      We already own part of the Arctic within the borders of the Russian Federation. A stupid oversight was made in this article and in a number of comments: the territory was confused with AQUATORIA. The shelf is not a territory, but an underwater part of the continent, and therefore cannot belong to anyone! The rights of any country apply only within the territorial waters, and the width of the thermal water varies from country to country, and for the majority (including the Russian Federation) - 12 nautical miles.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 9 November 2012 09: 45
        +2
        Honestly, you are like a child. Do you really think that some formulations of one word will stop those wishing to spit out more oil, gas, etc.? And at the same time to ruin Russia, because there are still a lot of useful things on our territory.
        1. bazilio
          bazilio 9 November 2012 11: 05
          +2
          Vedmak, you propose to become like "willing", rams, donkeys and other living creatures. By force you need to defend your rights, which are reasonable and logical.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 9 November 2012 11: 14
            +3
            Strength, power, strife. As you truly noticed
            By force you need to assert your rights that are justified and logical.

            Otherwise, it will be the adventures of a gopnik. By the way, the US is very reminiscent of this hero - is there oil? and if I find it?
            1. bazilio
              bazilio 9 November 2012 11: 47
              0
              Here you are right. Rights to defend by force and not to apply the rule "by the right of the strong"
            2. stroporez
              stroporez 11 November 2012 11: 03
              0
              the bull's eye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
      2. v53993
        v53993 9 November 2012 10: 35
        0
        You tell this to the Americans. I know that they will answer you this, and where they will send it.
      3. dimon-media
        dimon-media 9 November 2012 10: 43
        +1
        ... and the width of the economic zone at sea is 200 nautical miles from the coast, unlike territorial.
      4. bazilio
        bazilio 9 November 2012 11: 01
        +4
        Colonel You are right on the account of the water area you are right. But as you can see, many are ready to tear and throw without understanding the essence of the issue. Just to show their militancy against amers. And you also made a few mistakes about the water area and the shelf - 12 nautical miles are territorial waters, that is, border waters. while 200 nautical miles is an exclusive economic zone, which includes the shelf. The whole debate over the Arctic shelf is the point from which to start counting these 200 nautical miles
      5. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 9 November 2012 11: 28
        0
        Col.
        You +. At least one - SUSTAINABLE, without ambition, "poop" and "uryayaya" ...

        Maybe at least someone will listen ...
        1. nickname 1 and 2
          nickname 1 and 2 9 November 2012 16: 36
          0
          Quote: Z.A.M.
          Just one - THINKER

          Z.A.M.,
          So - two. I want to bring another drop. I will be the third.
          Who is reading this forum? What age? There is no indicator! A chatter goes like in a bad smoking room. Yes, not in the smoking room, you are friends! Indeed, in a smoking room, many will hold on to the language, if small ones are present.
          Purely Russian carelessness! How will this affect the minds of young people, has anyone ever thought twice?
      6. Flooding
        Flooding 9 November 2012 11: 53
        +3
        Quote: Colonel
        The shelf is not a territory, but an underwater part of the continent, and therefore cannot belong to anyone! The rights of any country apply only within the territorial waters, and the width of the thermal water varies from country to country, and for the majority (including the Russian Federation) - 12 nautical miles.

        Territorial waters - 12 nautical miles from the low tide line.
        The territorial sea, its bottom and subsoil, as well as the airspace above it, are under the sovereignty of the coastal state.
        Contiguous zone - This is a part of the sea, with a width of 12 nautical miles (22,2 kilometers), measured from the border of territorial waters.
        These are the customs, fiscal, immigration and sanitary zones of the coastal state.
        Exclusive Economic Zone - part of the sea, with a width of 200 nautical miles, measured from the line of greatest low tide.
        Within this zone, the coastal state has the right to exploration and development of all types of resources and any other economic activity.
        Continental shelf - the natural extension of land to the outer border of the underwater edge of the mainland.
        The shelf includes the bottom and subsoil. Coastal State under the 1982 Convention on the Law of the Sea. has the rights to explore and develop natural resources of the seabed and its subsoil: mineral resources and living "sedentary" organisms.

        As you can see, Russia's interest is not only in its territorial waters.
      7. Volodin
        9 November 2012 13: 14
        +2
        Andrew! To be honest, when writing it, the difficulty immediately arose, how to "name" these 1,2 million squares. I decided to use the word "territory", since the main focus is on the wealth of the shelf (firmament, "terra"). And to use constantly the phrase "1,2 million square kilometers of the underwater part of the continent", although correct, is too clumsy and too long. Therefore, in vain you think that the author does not distinguish the territory from the water area ... In general, my mistake is that it was necessary to immediately add a footnote to the name for clarification.
        1. Col.
          Col. 9 November 2012 14: 18
          +2
          Quote: Volodin
          Therefore, in vain do you think that the author does not distinguish the territory from the water area ...

          Yes, I didn’t think so, it’s just that any inaccuracy in wording, bloopers, typos, etc., hurts me as a grated headquarters officer. In the academy and on many teachings, the skill of drawing up documents was polished, sometimes even an incorrectly placed comma can radically change the meaning of a sentence ... Good luck in your hard work!
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 9 November 2012 15: 25
            0
            Quote: Colonel
            The rights of any country apply only within the territorial waters, and the width of the thermal water varies from country to country, and for the majority (including the Russian Federation) - 12 nautical miles.

            Is everything right here? No mistakes?
            1. Col.
              Col. 9 November 2012 15: 41
              0
              Quote: Flood
              Is everything right here? No mistakes?

              That's right. See here for more details: http://www.bibliotekar.ru/mezhdunarodnoe-pravo-3/127.htm
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 9 November 2012 18: 50
                0
                Quote: Colonel
                That's right. See here for more details: http://www.bibliotekar.ru/mezhdunarodnoe-pravo-3/127.htm

                I'm talking about something completely different. About the phrase "the rights of any country extend only within the territorial waters."
                Because, in fact, according to the same international law, a coastal state has rights both within the exclusive economic zone and on the continental shelf.

                For more details see here: http://www.bibliotekar.ru/mezhdunarodnoe-pravo-2/159.htm
                This is the question of the correct formulation.
      8. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 9 November 2012 22: 05
        0
        Quote: Colonel
        12 nautical miles.

        There was a question. Suppose there is an uninhabited island 13 miles from the coast, how to determine the island?
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 11 November 2012 23: 38
          0
          But where is the island of drawless 13 miles from the coast? :)))
          But if he were suddenly found, then no one. Truth.
    2. v53993
      v53993 9 November 2012 10: 32
      +5
      We were the first to discover Antarctica, by the way.
      1. dimon-media
        dimon-media 9 November 2012 10: 44
        0
        for sure. +100500 laughing
    3. bazilio
      bazilio 9 November 2012 11: 08
      +1
      Strategist, read the preamble of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which enshrines the primacy of international law over national law. There are generally recognized, including the Russian Federation, WFP standards that govern this issue. Of course, if you do not want to resolve the issue constructively, it is your right
    4. Nick
      Nick 10 November 2012 11: 05
      +1
      Quote: StrateG
      We were the first to discover the Arctic, it should belong to us.

      We discovered Antarctica, but for some reason everyone decided that it should be in the public domain.
  3. Leisure
    Leisure 9 November 2012 08: 31
    +13
    Do not be shy, you need to grab until others grabbed.
    1. predator.2
      predator.2 9 November 2012 09: 46
      +1
      Quote: Lazer
      Do not be shy, you need to grab until others grabbed.

      For this, it is necessary to build more ships, new icebreakers, submarines, etc.
  4. nokki
    nokki 9 November 2012 08: 38
    +8
    There were polar possessions of the USSR. Russia is the successor of the Soviet Union. What the hell are you here? And then, you see, soon Papua New Guinea will claim its rights to the Arctic!
    1. strannik595
      strannik595 9 November 2012 10: 40
      +1
      the dog barks .... the icebreaker is coming drinks
    2. nerd.su
      nerd.su 11 November 2012 23: 55
      0
      Quote: nokki
      There were polar possessions of the USSR. Russia is the successor of the Soviet Union. What the hell are you here?


      So under Stalin there were polar possessions of the USSR. He held them on Map A, it seems in 1997, the Russian Federation joined the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea. So, we ourselves refused the polar possessions in favor of the 12-mile zone of territorial waters ...
      So now we have to go to the UN to bow and ask us to return them back, only in a different, truncated in rights, form.
  5. Armata
    Armata 9 November 2012 08: 39
    +13
    As long as we have a backlog in the development of the Arctic and the means to develop it, this must be done. We have the best icebreaker fleet in the world and so far no one can oppose it. Although there will be a lot of drooling in our address.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 November 2012 09: 00
      +3
      Quote: Mechanic
      We have the best icebreaker fleet in the world and so far no one can oppose it. Although there will be a lot of drooling in our address.

      Hi Zhenya, amers are drooling for such a piece, but when the continental shelf is in vain. Russia will no longer give the Arctic to non-Amers or anyone else. Now is not the 90s. hi
      1. Armata
        Armata 9 November 2012 09: 07
        +3
        Hi Sanya. Count how much the stench will be.
        Although now, if their ships rise in the ice, they immediately shout Akhtung-save the Russians. Our icebreakers spend all their troughs.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 November 2012 09: 10
          +4
          Quote: Mechanic
          Count how much the stench will be.
          Although now, if their ships rise in the ice, they immediately shout Akhtung-save the Russians.

          I’m wondering if, when the Russians shout, save, our submarine will come up wassat
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 9 November 2012 09: 44
            +14
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I’m wondering if, when the Russians shout, save, our submarine will come up

            In the middle of the Pacific Ocean a Russian submarine emerges, rusty, all
            in shells ... The crew, unwashed, in dirty form, rises to the deck. Commander:
            - Who threw a felt boot into the remote? Everyone is silent ...
            - Once again I ask, who threw a felt boot into the remote?
            Nearby an American submarine pops up, all sparkles. Her captain builds the whole team. The Americans are in brand new uniform with the "Made in America" ​​label. American commander brushing a speck of dust off his shoulder:
            - But here in America ...
            “Yes, no more than your America.” Who threw a felt boot into the remote?
            1. Middle-brother
              Middle-brother 9 November 2012 10: 05
              +6
              In the middle of the Pacific Ocean, Russian and Amer submarines emerge.
              Amer: Hello, rush!
              Ours: What did you say? X **** painted? BCH-3, start up!
          2. lelikas
            lelikas 9 November 2012 14: 21
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            , our boat will come up
            - It's funny, but when in the "Brezhne" times our boat surfaced in Chukotka, half of the city did not know what to do - either to run for bread / salt, or to go home for guns.
      2. stroporez
        stroporez 10 November 2012 13: 11
        0
        I would hope that Shaw will not give up ........................
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 November 2012 09: 42
      +3
      The icebreaking fleet is still there, but it is aging. We need to build new icebreakers. And this should be a priority.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 November 2012 09: 44
        +1
        Quote: Wedmak
        The icebreaking fleet is still there, but it is aging. We need to build new icebreakers.

        Yes, there was not long ago here infa, they begin to revive, as we will put it to the test.
        1. Armata
          Armata 9 November 2012 09: 49
          +4
          Quote: Wedmak
          The icebreaking fleet is still there, but it is aging. We need to build new icebreakers. And this should be a priority.
          There are fundamentally new icebreaker projects. Now they are actively promoting them. What, what, but bottom ships, we can teach the whole world how to build. But as for the update, there is a question for our government, although they also make it a priority.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 9 November 2012 10: 09
            +2
            Yes there is. There is even a floating nuclear power plant under construction. Only now I would like to see not active promotion, but hulls on the stocks. More preferably.
            1. Armata
              Armata 9 November 2012 10: 52
              +1
              Quote: Wedmak
              Only now I would like to see not active promotion, but hulls on the stocks. More preferably.
              I am for it. drinks But let's talk about how it all starts with paper.
      2. dimon-media
        dimon-media 9 November 2012 10: 48
        0
        Icebreakers are being built. New ones. Some. Forget, read)
        1. Armata
          Armata 9 November 2012 11: 13
          +1
          Quote: dimon-media

          Icebreakers are being built. New ones. Some
          Unfortunately, only 1 of them has a marine class, the rest for work in estuaries and the coastal zone.
  6. Kyki57
    Kyki57 9 November 2012 09: 10
    +2
    It's time to grow and grow to do as quickly as possible!
  7. Manager
    Manager 9 November 2012 09: 23
    +2
    Until we have the Army capable of quickly resolving ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT OF THE PLANET WITH ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE PLANET, we need to take care of what is! And then we take the Arctic, but Siberia, the Far East, and the Caucasus can be developed.
  8. Lavrik
    Lavrik 9 November 2012 09: 36
    +2
    The decision to deploy in the north 2 polar brigades is correct, but insufficient. And if the western flank is at least somewhat covered, then the eastern (Chukotka) is almost naked. It is in this direction that special attention should be paid.
    1. volcano
      volcano 9 November 2012 10: 05
      +3
      Quote: Lavrik
      And if the western flank is somehow covered


      if you knew HOW the western (as you say) flank is covered .... you would cease to sleep calmly .....

      Unfortunately, not a single direction in our country can be called CROSSED .... Thanks to the reforms and reductions
  9. King
    King 9 November 2012 09: 37
    +2
    We are doing everything right. hapnem the Arctic and then to the Antarctic it comes.
  10. Law
    Law 9 November 2012 09: 39
    +3
    Comrades need to work in two directions and things. present the docks and slowly set up their towers and swing them, while the west is like a dog who barks, and the caravan goes on!
  11. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 9 November 2012 10: 15
    -1
    Colonel Today, 09:27 ↑ ↓ new 0
    Quote: StrateG
    We were the first to discover the Arctic, it should belong to us

    We already own part of the Arctic within the borders of the Russian Federation. A stupid oversight was made in this article and in a number of comments: the territory was confused with AQUATORIA. The shelf is not a territory, but an underwater part of the continent, and therefore cannot belong to anyone! The rights of any country apply only within the territorial waters, and the width of the thermal water varies from country to country, and for most (including the Russian Federation) - 12 nautical miles.

    Well, if each country has a different one then increase its note by 1,2 sq. Km by ourselves. so that is all drinks wassat
    1. Dimon Lviv
      Dimon Lviv 9 November 2012 10: 38
      +3
      The shelf is not a territory, but the underwater part of the continent, and therefore cannot belong to anyone
      - there is a snake island in Ukraine, with an oil and gas shelf around it. And because of the island and the shelf there was a showdown with Romania, which stated that "the island is not a skeleton, but a rock, and therefore the shelf boundaries are Romanian, and it has the right to extract oil there." Not so long ago, the Hague court sued this island in Ukraine, recognizing that it was not a rock, but an island, but at the same time recognized the oil shelf as ... Romanian.
      Could you repeat especially for the Romanians that “the shelf cannot belong to anyone”? And it's a shame that the richest hydrocarbon deposits have gone from under our noses.
  12. GG2012
    GG2012 9 November 2012 10: 21
    +7
    I hope that Russia will grow Ukraine and Belarus! And it will be warmer in the Arctic!
  13. severe
    severe 9 November 2012 10: 22
    0
    By the way, in the Arctic we have a whole National Park: Russian Arctic
  14. serjant4
    serjant4 9 November 2012 10: 26
    +1
    The Arctic, this is our land and it will be behind us!
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 9 November 2012 11: 37
      +6
      Try to freely go to the Arctic and see that there is a wide border zone, and Russians are not allowed to go there freely. Since the closure of Mangazeya and the ban on building Kochi, the authorities have driven us from there.
      Through the GULAG - please, to Norilsk, to get metal, platinum to America (recently a steamer was found in the Atlantic, drowned in the war), nickel in armor, so that the system could still conquer "our" territories.
      The customs also do not consider the Arctic as their own - they charge fishermen a duty for caught fish, so it is profitable to unload only in Norway, except for "Indians", it is no coincidence that some Russians want to become "Pomors".
      There is a difference between the name "Russia" and the content.
      If we talk about the Russian Arctic, then we must save the Russian population, and this is the problem of the Ice Val in the spring, clean water and parity with the Nazis, who settled there more reliably than the Russians.
  15. BARKAS
    BARKAS 9 November 2012 10: 37
    +1
    To paraphrase the well-known words of Lomonosov, it is necessary to say that Russia's wealth will be increased by the Arctic, and all that the Arctic, like Siberia, should be associated in the world with Russia without listening to some wise men with a hypertrophied complex of their own inferiority.
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 9 November 2012 11: 56
      0
      BARKAS,
      if only not for finances and welfare, Alekperov and the like nouveau riche grew in Russia. And these are two big differences.
  16. Ghenxnumx
    Ghenxnumx 9 November 2012 11: 16
    +1
    As long as amers and others like them the world community, as Brzezinski said / and I completely share this point of view with him / there are levers of pressure on our bureaucratic brotherhood and the elite - it is about accounts and real estate abroad - there will be no sense.
  17. Zlu
    Zlu 9 November 2012 11: 59
    0
    but they would not have gone with their "non-chains". This is our territory !!!
  18. donchepano
    donchepano 9 November 2012 12: 45
    +1
    icebreakers certainly need to be built and warships well. The Arctic will come in handy, but what the hell hunchback with Shevarnadze gave several thousand square kilometers of the Bering Strait to the Americas?
    1. Armata
      Armata 9 November 2012 12: 49
      +2
      Quote: donchepano
      but what the hell hunchback with Shevarnadze gave several thousand square kilometers of the sea territory of the Bering Strait to the Americans?
      And you yourself remember those times. We all shouted then cheers America hello. The times of adjustment damn it.
  19. Sinbad
    Sinbad 9 November 2012 12: 57
    0
    Enough to look back at "their" opinion, we, the Russian people, it is up to one place. You just have to do what is needed. As the saying goes: the dog sings, but the caravan moves on.
  20. afire
    afire 9 November 2012 14: 04
    +3
    And why do we need the opinion of such an incompetent organization as the UN, it itself is a big fiction. It’s just to systematically create the conditions for the protection of these new territories, only get in - kirdyk. and that’s it. These creatures only understand power soldier
  21. Nechai
    Nechai 9 November 2012 14: 56
    +2
    Quote: Ardent
    Amanita Edik the rodent gave the lope of our sea-ocean?

    So after all, for the poor Poles, he tried. Where did they catch a fish? Amer undertook to swagger there. temporarily ... And as the Union kicked in, the sheriff kicked out the pshekov and, in general, announced all this to him. So the issue still needs to be addressed. Conduct to its original state. And the amers know these things, because of this they are silent, like mice under a broom.
    Quote: v53993
    We were the first to discover Antarctica, by the way.

    Therefore, it is necessary to check the documents with all Antarctic guest workers. To this end, urgently send expeditions PPS and FMS to the Antarctic stations. Yes, prohranitsy with customs should immediately pull up.
    Quote: lelikas
    whether home behind guns.

    The gun must always be with you. But bread and salt are not for every guest ...
  22. homosum20
    homosum20 9 November 2012 16: 24
    -1
    The people, it seems to me that for yusov and lime more important are the soil samples of oil and gas, which are under these samples.
    It would be nice to sample the soil samples (maybe replace them) with destock - another warship and a hundred aircraft.
    Eh-bo, it will be more convincing.
    1. serg1978
      serg1978 9 November 2012 16: 29
      0
      Hello Volodya. Moreover, soil samples, if we have ships of aircraft, they themselves, if necessary, will get it.
      Sorry, the plus sign clicked on the minus sign. I will return.
  23. georg737577
    georg737577 9 November 2012 16: 41
    +1
    In my opinion, everything will boil down to the question of whether Russia will have such a military potential, in which the questions about the Arctic territories will disappear from others who want to eat someone else's pie ... It is absolutely clear that in the near future, "negotiation - paper" wars for resources will go into the "hot" phase ... And the country must be ready for this - after all, there is something to defend. And the "international community" is a pack of jackals who are just waiting for the lion to weaken ... Fuck you!
  24. nnz226
    nnz226 9 November 2012 18: 39
    0
    When considering Russia's application to the UN at 12,1, miles from New York should bring up a couple of Russian SSBNs. I think the review will be quick and with the desired result ....
  25. not good
    not good 9 November 2012 18: 45
    +1
    You just need to develop the Arctic and not pay attention to the squealing of competitors. The Arctic is OUR and if anyone doesn’t agree with this, let it prove it to us first. soldier
  26. Stasi.
    Stasi. 9 November 2012 19: 14
    +1
    The West will do everything possible so that Russia does not get the Arctic. I do not think that it will come to a fight, but one must be prepared for this. But most likely they will use a proven tool - the threat to block or confiscate property located in the West and multi-million dollar accounts. Our elite will not resist such compromising evidence and will give up all positions. And this will be worse than the open war, but the West will not go to it, too cowardly.
  27. sergey261180
    sergey261180 9 November 2012 20: 13
    +2
    I have already got articles with such names "MAY". Russia may or may not grow ... The army may or may not be ... In 2020, maybe, and maybe in 2030! Who knows! I put a minus to the article without even reading it. If you don't know exactly why you should write all sorts of nonsense. At the sight of such articles, the conclusion suggests itself: if my grandmother had ..., she would be a grandfather, or if only. Authors of such articles are requested to publish their materials on futuristic sites.
  28. studentmati
    studentmati 9 November 2012 21: 40
    +1
    Any self-respecting State does its job silently, because it is confident that it is right. and if someone is against, then the State knows how to shut up the upstart! I hope that Russia is reviving the core of statehood?
  29. pesec
    pesec 9 November 2012 22: 07
    +3
    Information for thought: 1. A. Medvedev and Co., when he was president, gave the Norwegians a decent piece of the Barents Sea (the so-called gray zone rich in oil and fish). The Norwegians, in gratitude for this, drive our fishermen off Svalbard. 2. The Shtokman gas field (600 km from the Kola Peninsula) has been talked about for 40 years. And once again, the development was frozen-expensive. 3. It is true that the FSB isolated the coast, does not "help" live and develop the territory there, squeezes out the population. 4. In 1922, the Americans founded their settlement on Wrangel Island, in 1924 they had to be escorted out and a permanent presence was created there.
  30. stroporez
    stroporez 10 November 2012 19: 24
    0
    this is --- our. every "civilized" creature --- to meet with a volley of regimental mortars,. but of course --- like wild, barbarians ......... but this --- WE. what right is anyone from Europ has to demand Schaub we, forcibly, changed !!!!!!!!!!!! ?????????? We do not tell the Germans or the Guardians how to live ..... but organize washing with bloody snot --- Duc WE ARE EXPERTS in this. I feel sorry in advance for the amers from the middle Texas, whose sons will get here .............................. ...........
  31. botur2013
    botur2013 10 November 2012 21: 56
    0
    But it's not time to get a double-barreled shot!
  32. Mad_911
    Mad_911 10 November 2012 22: 26
    0
    You can’t retreat with the Americans, give them a little free rein - they sit on your neck .. Do not go too far, but also not back down from your own. It is this policy that our state is pursuing now.

    PS. Great article! In general, the articles of this author are very encouraging)
  33. abeluk
    abeluk 11 November 2012 12: 39
    0
    to grow the territory, then give (as DAM-Norway), or as GDP-Siberia to China for 50 years! meaning in these gestures ??? spend budget money, then get some more. Russians do not need to rejoice and 1 cop will not fall!
  34. SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 11 November 2012 14: 55
    0
    The battle for the shelf will be frail
  35. botur2013
    botur2013 11 November 2012 15: 27
    0
    Put an outpost and a border guard with a dog, and then talk with the world community.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov 15 November 2012 19: 07
      +1
      Next to Chilingarov's flag ... Turgenev "Mumu".
      1. sealord
        sealord 15 November 2012 20: 08
        0
        Well good
        Next to Chilingarov's flag ... Turgenev "Mumu".
  36. sprut
    sprut 11 November 2012 16: 14
    0
    And what's wrong with Imperial ambitions? I propose generally renaming the Russian Federation to the Russian Empire.
  37. I think so
    I think so 11 November 2012 18: 44
    0
    Quote from the article:
    "It is gratifying to realize that Russia is not only not going to donate its lands" does not fit in with the real events of Medvedev's presidency ... How many thousand square kilometers of the sea did Norway present?
  38. Insurgent
    Insurgent 11 November 2012 19: 38
    0
    In Russia, 17 ml sq km people live poorly still want 1,2 ml sq km for the sake of minerals that would go to the alegarchs and not ordinary people and vryatli the USA and Canada will agree
  39. SMUTIAN
    SMUTIAN 11 November 2012 20: 06
    0
    While the states are making a dud in the Middle East, our guys
    masterfully and peacefully developing new deposits in the Arctic.
    In any case, greedy asses in the west will not give free
    breathe Russian on new shelves, they are fighting for their oil
    have to. I already imagine them red, grumbling with saliva
    physiognomy belay
  40. George
    George 11 November 2012 23: 40
    0
    sprut,
    We have from the empire only greedy bottomless throats of oligarchs left
  41. avega
    avega 15 November 2012 20: 18
    0
    The appointment of the former defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov took place - now he will take the place of adviser to the general director of Russian Technologies Sergey Chemezov, Interfax reports.
    Read more: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc-y/2067012

    something tells me that it’s getting bad for the whole world BADABUM !!!
    maybe I'm wrong ... but too much has been happening lately and Serdyukov to the heap ....
  42. Oles
    Oles 15 November 2012 21: 02
    0
    It’s interesting to see a map of the territories we are applying for. when the scoop was from the Kola Peninsula through the North Pole to the Bering Strait ... how right now ..?

    and finally it would be correct from every western and eastern points of the coasts of the Arctic countries to draw straight lines to the north pole. and these triangles are the affiliation of each country from which the lines go. but the figs there ... will not work ... for many are interested