German press: Germany will not be able to quickly transfer 40 Marder infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine

Currently, the German authorities are hastily trying to resolve the issue of finding a sufficient number of Marder infantry fighting vehicles to supply Ukraine. This is written by the German magazine Spiegel.

Earlier it became known that Berlin decided to transfer 40 Marder armored vehicles to the Kyiv regime. But it cannot be done quickly. Government spokesman Steffen Hebeshtreit promised on January 6 to answer journalists' questions about the timing of the delivery of armored vehicles to Ukraine. But this did not happen, and the reason for this is banal - now Germany does not have the proper amount of "extra" infantry fighting vehicles. Therefore, it will not be possible to quickly deliver BMPs to Ukraine.

As it became known to German journalists, only 60 Marder infantry fighting vehicles are currently left in the warehouses of the German company Rheinmetall, but they also need to be repaired. The tasks of modernizing combat vehicles are very large-scale, and it will not be possible to quickly repair them. Therefore, in the most optimal scenario for Ukraine and Germany, Berlin will be able to start the main deliveries of infantry fighting vehicles no earlier than the end of March 2023.

There is another option - to give Ukraine those armored vehicles that are now in service with the Bundeswehr itself. But then the German ground forces will lose a significant part of the BMPs used, and the Bundeswehr has problems with weapons. Therefore, the German authorities are now urgently looking for a way out of this situation, and it is premature for the Ukrainian military to rejoice over the announced deliveries of infantry fighting vehicles.

Recall that, according to open sources, the Bundeswehr today is armed with more than 300 Marder infantry fighting vehicles. But not all of them are correct.

Comments

[voice of reason]

In short, even these miserable 40 pieces must first be repaired (under the guise of modernization), then delivered, then smeared across divisions or reduced to one-conditionally German. and then somehow apply on the battlefield. The support is more psychological. Something like Entente supplies for Denikin and Wrangel. They give something. they bring something but does not play a special role at the front. on the other hand, we knew for sure that the Germans had no armored vehicles left in the cache. Just zero! Immediately calmer for Kaliningrad somehow. You're not such a cool Batman turned out to be. And the rabbit is naked. Here is your vaunted NATO. Well, lads, did your Fritz help you?

[Wedmak]

that the Germans had no armored vehicles left in the stash. Just zero!

So they have tanks. All the rubbish has already been thrown away, only what is pitiful and only for themselves remains.

[Terenin]

Government spokesman Steffen Hebeshtreit promised on January 6 to answer journalists' questions about the timing of the delivery of armored vehicles to Ukraine.

All this is slyness. The transfer of equipment and weapons to Ukraine is taking place and will continue to take place strictly according to the NATO schedule as new ukrocorps are completed.

[YOUR]

Unfortunately, the BMP Marder and Bradley are much stronger than our BMP-1,2, both in terms of armor and armament. Both machines hold 100% 14,5 mm, and in the frontal projection a 30 mm projectile. Those. it turns out that these targets are only for ATGMs and tanks.

[Kaufman]

Gonzales, is that you!? Read the total figures for how much the collective west of France, Germany, the USA is transferring! Infantry fighting vehicles, wheeled tanks, 155 mm self-propelled guns, 105 mm howitzers, rockets, etc. And a new Ramstein is planned for the end of the month, where they will also tweak Italy - they will give the same

[hagen]

Quote: voice of reason

on the other hand, we knew for sure that the Germans had no armored vehicles left in the cache.

Do you mean those 300 Marders that the Bundeswehr has on its balance sheet? We know this from their words. Are there many truths in them? Especially knowing that 2136 of them were produced in total ..... I would not engage in complacency, understanding, in addition, that he and Bradley are already not quite "tough" for 2A42 today ...

[Fitter65]

Quote: voice of reason

In short, even these miserable 40 pieces must first be repaired

I see you missed this news yesterday

Germany will supply Ukraine with a batch of BMP Marder, intended for the Greek army

https://topwar.ru/208289-germanija-postavit-ukraine-partiju-bmp-marder-prednaznachennuju-dlja-grecheskoj-armii.html
And there it was written in Russian in white

Ukraine will receive German Marder infantry fighting vehicles around the end of March, Germany is speeding up the delivery of armored vehicles by transferring infantry fighting vehicles to Kyiv from a batch intended for another state. The German press writes about it.

but not even a day has passed since German journalists are already writing this

As it became known to German journalists, only 60 Marder infantry fighting vehicles are currently left in the warehouses of the German company Rheinmetall, but they also need to be repaired.

As I understand it, the Greeks still did not agree with the fact that

Greece's defenses will not be affected if the delivery of infantry fighting vehicles is delayed

if

Germans give Zelensky a batch of armored vehicles intended for the Greeks

.

[APASUS]

The problem is that it is not the German press that is leading the arms transfer process, but the corrupt politicians of Germany

[Alexander 3]

They don’t need to rush with repairs. We need to approach this issue more carefully. Well, if by the next year 24, then it will be on schedule.

[Evil543]

So the infa was that the infantry fighting vehicles intended for the Greeks would be handed over? I feel the tracks are confused.

[alexey_444]

Even if all 300 are transferred, for such a front, for such a positional artillery war, useless iron. Helicopter pilots will practice even though the price of a marder will block the price of whirlwinds, and not free Soviet backlogs.

[rotmistr60]

Berlin will be able to start the main deliveries of infantry fighting vehicles no earlier than the end of March 2023.

But under pressure from the United States, the transfer was announced with pomp almost tomorrow. It seems that after another conversation with the Americans, Scholz will quickly find a way out of the "delicate" situation.

[antivirus]

Does our government really count the lives of soldiers in rubles? The rocket is more expensive, which means the vanek will crawl.
And where are the SVR and Stirlitz with agents?
How to win in Artemovsk without winning in the rear, on the Dnieper and Zhytomyr.
Meat grinder.

[your1970]

Quote: antivirus

Does our government really count the lives of soldiers in rubles? The rocket is more expensive, which means the vanek will crawl.

The authorities didn’t kick, did the day pass in vain?

[tranquil]

Quote: your1970

The authorities didn’t kick, did the day pass in vain?

Such is their job.

[W-12]

It was clear that it was not possible to deliver it right away, but by the end of March? May be? Apparently, effective managers have settled not only in our government, but also in Germany.
I remember that once, NATO carried out large-scale rearmament, and in fear of the Red tank army, they riveted plans for a nuclear war, simultaneously stuffing warehouses with weapons in reserve. Relaxed even partners in a dangerous business.
Put, it's half the battle. It is also necessary to divide this into tactical units, train the crew, and conduct some kind of coordination.
Without normal coordination, this will be scrap metal.

[alexoff]

What does this sausage allow itself? Forgot who is the most important on the continent?

[rocket757]

As it became known to German journalists, only 60 Marder infantry fighting vehicles are currently left in the warehouses of the German company Rheinmetall, but they also need to be repaired. The tasks of modernizing combat vehicles are very large-scale, and it will not be possible to quickly repair them. Therefore, in the most optimal scenario for Ukraine and Germany, Berlin will be able to start the main deliveries of infantry fighting vehicles no earlier than the end of March 2023.

. The Germans, after all, are not minke whales ... they don’t seem to want to pass on outright rubbish.
However, there may be another reason for the delay, but not one.

[Kotisha]

What is Volodya waiting for??? until the Germans freeze again near Moscow ??? maybe already preemptively once with something normal to gasp at the Bundeswehr with postcards "Ready to repeat the 45th"

[AKsvlad047]

All this is not funny, it's just a matter of time when the entire collective West will openly start supplying absolutely all the weapons that they have to Kyiv. In such a situation, Russia is simply obliged to completely switch to the rails of a military economy, with the formation of new military formations, equipped with the most modern equipment that we can only produce, and also get rid of those mistakes that were characteristic of the first stages of the NMD.

[MonsterTank]

The fact that their latest cougars broke down on time is very interesting how the Bundeswehr will solve the issue of marders

[Andron78]

The West also learns from mistakes. He will now prepare Kyiv for the spring aggravation of the database, and possibly for the next offensive. It is already clear to us that the replenishment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with small batches of equipment only leads to its knocking out without visible results. Therefore, they will form either a shock fist, or a layered defense, or both. So everything is according to plan.