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Ramzan Kadyrov: Russia does not need to make concessions to the West and sit down at the negotiating table on their terms

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Ramzan Kadyrov: Russia does not need to make concessions to the West and sit down at the negotiating table on their terms

Russian citizens do not need to worry about the aid coming to Ukraine from Western sponsors, despite the gigantic amounts allocated, hardly 15% of them reach Kyiv, the rest is stolen. You need to worry about something completely different. This was stated by Ramzan Kadyrov in his TG channel.


The head of Chechnya drew attention to the fact that many in Russia are worried about the Western assistance provided to Ukraine, believing that the amounts voiced by Washington fully reach the Ukrainian army. In fact, this is not the case, the West is implementing a money laundering scheme, allocating a small share to Ukrainian officials and very little to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

I see that some are worried about foreign aid to Ukraine. Do not worry! This is a money laundering scheme. Officials from the West and Ukraine will plunder these funds and no more than 15% of the total amount of support will reach the trenches

- He wrote.

According to Kadyrov, there is something else to worry about, namely that the new Russian regions may not be completely liberated, and the West will achieve negotiations on its own terms. The head of Chechnya stressed that under no circumstances is it necessary to make concessions, it is necessary to conduct military operations and achieve victory, and also to begin to destroy the leadership of the nationalists. According to him, the West failed to destroy Russia on the move, either from within or with the help of external forces.

The fighting is now going on in Russia. These are our regions that wished to become part of our state in order to protect the population from the satanic actions of Ukrainian and NATO nationalists. Therefore, there should be no negotiations. We must hit the lair of Satanists in the center of Kyiv! We must hit the main defender and agitator of this vile ideology - Zelensky

- he added.
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  1. Maz
    Maz 8 January 2023 13: 22
    -34
    I see three or four likely candidates for the presidency of Russia, these are: Kadyrov, Surovikin, Prigozhin and Medvedev. And Shoigu as an option ... I wonder how many officials are stealing from us funds going to the NWO? Too many volunteers supply what should be in the army at the expense of the budget.
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 8 January 2023 13: 25
      +35
      Ramzan Kadyrov: Russia does not need to make concessions to the West and sit down at the negotiating table on their terms


      Golden words! I completely agree. Enough of half-betrayal agreements already. As always, the West will not comply with any agreements. This is another trap-deception in order to buy time to arm Kyiv and start a new war against Russia. How long can you walk on a rake? it is necessary to liquidate it as a springboard. The next war, if a new Minsk is signed, is not a fact that it will turn out to be a war for us in which we can win.
      1. zloybond
        zloybond 8 January 2023 13: 48
        +32
        I think Ramzan Akhmatovich now heartily expressed the opinion of the majority of the population of Russia. In fact, we do not need these negotiations anymore. Everyone understands that words, guarantees, wasted time and paper are just an attempt to delay the fall of the fascist-Nazi Kyiv regime. And all these little people who are talking about negotiations are, in fact, traitors to Russia.
        In addition, Russia has already signed, for example, an agreement on the destruction of chemical weapons. We have destroyed. And where is the result of the USA ??? He is not! But how our diplomats diligently spawned all sorts of other agreements that will also not be fulfilled. Well, get to start fulfilling outstanding contracts before spending the resources of the Motherland on other pieces of paper.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 8 January 2023 14: 22
          +10
          Kadyrov is 1000 times right! I absolutely support his adequate and competent approach!
          1. Civil
            Civil 8 January 2023 14: 54
            -11
            O! And the chief Chechen began to talk about negotiations.
        2. SKVichyakow
          SKVichyakow 8 January 2023 16: 23
          +5
          Quote: zloybond
          And all these little people who are talking about negotiations are, in fact, traitors to Russia.

          These "Kremlin towers" are worried about their capital. The first of them, probably the Yeltsin family.
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 8 January 2023 14: 25
        +7
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        ... Russia does not need to make concessions to the West and sit down at the negotiating table ....
        .... Enough of half-betrayal agreements. As always, the West will not comply...

        It turns out that Merkel's statement is a warning for the future! And only the stupid can not hear it! What other options might there be?
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 8 January 2023 14: 32
          +5
          I'm afraid that the options are to leave everything as it is over the past 30 years and the desire to agree at any cost, contrary to elementary logic. After all, in order to leave some system, you need to come to some other system. And they either don’t know where to go, or don’t want to, because over the decades everything has been more or less arranged. But I think that it’s not possible to live like this before. It’s for the best.
          1. AAK
            AAK 8 January 2023 16: 13
            +2
            I hope that the Guarantor will have enough conscience and intelligence and metal not to go to any negotiations, except for the surrender of Bandera
            1. topol717
              topol717 8 January 2023 21: 24
              -4
              Quote: AAK
              I hope that the Guarantor will have enough conscience and intelligence and metal not to go to any negotiations, except for the surrender of Bandera

              This is not enough. Ukraine should be divided into 4-5 independent states, this is the goal that we should set ourselves in order to close this conflict.
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 8 January 2023 16: 18
            +3
            Quote from Orange Bigg
            To get out of some system, you have to enter some other system. And where to go or do not know, or do not want ......

            For a long time they shied away and dodged from making decisions. Now, maybe it comes, but not to everyone.
            Perhaps Merkel's words were because she understood SUDDENLY, finally, what awaits the Germans from the United States
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 8 January 2023 14: 36
          0
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Merkel's statement is a warning for the future!
          That's right!

          And yet, Biden quietly insists that Zelya go to the negotiations, just like the Minsk negotiations, which Kyiv, according to Washington’s plans, will not have to fulfill in any case, but will simply play for time, etc.
          It is not clear why, at the same time, Zelensky still does not agree with the United States on this. Apparently, because of the internal political situation of relations between Zlensky's office and the Nazis, as well as because of the foreign policy of the same London.
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            1. Al manah
              Al manah 8 January 2023 15: 51
              0
              Unfortunately, he is far from the only one who decides there ...
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 8 January 2023 16: 11
            +1
            Quote: Tatiana
            ..... Biden quietly insists ...... why, at the same time, Zelensky still does not agree with the United States. Apparently, due to the internal political situation in the relationship between Zlensky's office and the Nazis, ....

            hi As for Biden ---- maybe time is running out, or maybe they are interested in probing Russian liberalism, the "Party of Peace", so to speak, because sometimes these liberal ears crawl out from different corners? Do you want them to be more active in some way? recourse we don’t know what scarecrows and when they are sent from the west.
          3. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 8 January 2023 16: 12
            +1
            Quote: Tatiana
            ..... Biden quietly insists ...... why, at the same time, Zelensky still does not agree with the United States. Apparently, due to the internal political situation in the relationship between Zlensky's office and the Nazis, ....

            hi As for Biden ---- maybe time is running out, or maybe they are interested in probing Russian liberalism, the "Party of Peace", so to speak, because sometimes these liberal ears crawl out from different corners? Do you want them to be more active in some way? recourse we don’t know what scarecrows and when they are sent from the west.
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 8 January 2023 21: 05
          0
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Quote from Orange Bigg
          ... Russia does not need to make concessions to the West and sit down at the negotiating table ....
          .... Enough of half-betrayal agreements. As always, the West will not comply...

          It turns out that Merkel's statement is a warning for the future! And only the stupid can not hear it! What other options might there be?

          There, Hollande confirmed Merkel's words, essentially making it clear that he, too, lied like a gray gelding.
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      4. Fat
        Fat 8 January 2023 18: 40
        +5
        Ramzan is right and cruel. First, his father suffered from the "help" of @partners "Then, the Chechen clans, bought by wealth, American wealth, opposed Akhmat's line and killed him ... So, in the name of the prophet, let the murderers of the popularly recognized Imam of Chechnya, part of the Federation, be judged. Ramzan - worthy son of Akhmat and elected by the majority of the people (clans) of the "irreconcilable" republic.
        Chechen warriors are now in the same ranks with the Federation Army to reason with people zombified and robbed by the Ukrainian regime, returning them justice, honor and dignity and, unfortunately, retaining the opportunity to choose...
        Now let's give our "multi-cons", for idealism
    2. coinsam
      coinsam 8 January 2023 13: 25
      -10
      As a result, all four listed, by themselves, without special training, created a corresponding reputation for themselves. And anyone can support!
      1. your vsr 66-67
        your vsr 66-67 8 January 2023 13: 35
        +11
        Quote from monetam
        As a result, all four listed, by themselves, without special training, created a corresponding reputation for themselves. And anyone can support!

        Except Medvedev! Already was! Again he starts with the renaming of the police into the police, and again ... There is no money, but you hold on! Enough! Already scientists!
      2. Orange Bigg
        Orange Bigg 8 January 2023 13: 35
        +2
        Quote from monetam
        As a result, all four listed, by themselves, without special training, created a corresponding reputation for themselves. And anyone can support!


        No, not anyone. I think Prigozhin and Medvedev are not suitable as candidates.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 8 January 2023 13: 56
          -13
          I agree about Medvedev. What did Prigogine not like? Didn't come out face? In my opinion the most adequate and competent manager.
          1. Orange Bigg
            Orange Bigg 8 January 2023 14: 01
            +2
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            I agree about Medvedev. What did Prigogine not like? Didn't come out face? In my opinion the most adequate and competent manager.


            Let's just say there are moments. The president comes from a PMC, it's too much. All the same, everyone should mind their own business.
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 8 January 2023 14: 30
              +9
              a native of PMC
              more precisely from the zone. Or someone does not know.?
              1. AdAstra
                AdAstra 8 January 2023 21: 27
                -3
                Yes, they all know, but rose-colored glasses are so nice to wear.
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 8 January 2023 14: 06
            +2
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            I agree about Medvedev. What did Prigogine not like? Didn't come out face? In my opinion the most adequate and competent manager.

            Plywood shoigu is definitely not needed there! Surovikin, as a collaborator and who has not proven himself in any way, is also past.
          3. RED_ICE
            RED_ICE 8 January 2023 14: 07
            +5
            Prigogine has deadlines. He doesn't fit the criteria.
            1. Rosemary
              Rosemary 8 January 2023 16: 11
              0
              Quote: RED_ICE
              Prigogine has deadlines. He doesn't fit the criteria.

              I won’t be surprised if it turns out that the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation has already reviewed Prigozhin’s criminal cases for a long time, the convictions against him have been canceled, and he himself has been acquitted and recognized as unlawfully prosecuted.
              1. AdAstra
                AdAstra 8 January 2023 21: 28
                -2
                In general, "Rafik is not the culprit."
            2. Victor Leningradets
              Victor Leningradets 8 January 2023 18: 34
              +5
              Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili He also had a term. not alone. However, he passed all the "criteria".
          4. Crimean partisan 1974
            Crimean partisan 1974 8 January 2023 14: 25
            -11
            I personally would vote for Vitya Bout ....
          5. Machito
            Machito 8 January 2023 15: 09
            +2
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            I agree about Medvedev. What did Prigogine not like? Didn't come out face? In my opinion the most adequate and competent manager.

            Diana, Prigogine - oligarch, businessman, owner of a Private Military Company that earns money by killing people. Prigozhin is a good oligarch, pro-Russian, our son of a female dog. Not like some Abramovichs. Or maybe the only difference between Prigozhin and the Abramovichs is that he has no assets in Ukraine and the West? Here Wagner will beat off the salt mines in Soledar and who will get them? Or maybe Prigogine?
            1. AdAstra
              AdAstra 8 January 2023 21: 31
              +1
              Only now we don’t have PMCs in the law, even crack, but no. And the Russian Federation seems to be a legal state or not?
              1. polk26l
                polk26l 8 January 2023 21: 57
                +2
                And it would be necessary, long ago, to adopt a law on PMCs!
          6. Alexander Salenko
            Alexander Salenko 8 January 2023 15: 11
            +2
            I think that he will not go himself, as much as I watch videos with him, he is a fan of his brainchild, this is not just a tool for him.
        2. sadam2
          sadam2 8 January 2023 16: 17
          -3
          I see that all of you have a fantasy after Olivier.
          Not even ostentatious .. The Immortal clung until they carried it out with their feet forward ... for this, both the war and the constitution were nullified ...
      3. The fog
        The fog 8 January 2023 14: 01
        +2
        Who is there to support? Plywood? Or a bald general who has a criminal record for selling weapons. Or the one who, being a kid, killed Russian soldiers? Something with a choice now absolutely in any way. Either liberals like they will pile on, or these "without preparation" ((
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 8 January 2023 14: 06
          +5
          Quote from LaNiebla
          Who is there to support? Plywood? Or a bald general who has a criminal record for selling weapons. Or the one who, being a kid, killed Russian soldiers? Something with a choice now absolutely in any way. Either liberals like they will pile on, or these "without preparation" ((


          And what about the elections tomorrow, and all of the above decided to run for the presidency of Russia? Before the elections, oh how far away and only God knows what the layout will be at that point in time, and all the current arguments are nothing more than assumptions from the layouts at the present time. All for some reason they exclude Putin's candidacy, which is already strange.
        2. Dart
          Dart 8 January 2023 14: 18
          0
          So Dzhugashvili slashed the royal secret police with a revolver and was an expropriator and nothing, then it turned out, the ways of the Lord are inscrutable, everyone has their own set of skeletons in the closet, your arguments are by.
          1. Alexander Salenko
            Alexander Salenko 8 January 2023 15: 13
            -4
            Do not spread deliberately ridiculous information, what kind of revolver, what kind of exes?
            1. Dart
              Dart 9 January 2023 17: 18
              +1
              I didn’t want to be banal, but I only write about what is a fact, it was and will continue to be the only way ...
              Tiflis expropriation - an attack on June 13 (26), 1907 in Tiflis on a treasury carriage while transporting money from the post office to the Tiflis branch of the State Bank. The attack was carried out by the Bolsheviks under the leadership of Kamo, and was recognized as one of the loudest [1] during the revolution of 1905-1907. In terms of the exchange rate of 2012, about 5 million US dollars were stolen[2].

              The expropriation was organized by a number of Bolshevik leaders, including Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Maxim Litvinov, L. B. Krasin and A. A. Bogdanov. The purpose of the robbery was to replenish the cashier of the party. Since such activities were expressly banned at the Fifth Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party (RSDLP), as robberies and murders aroused indignation in the party against the Bolsheviks, Lenin and Stalin tried to distance themselves from the robbery. The events around this incident and similar operations caused a split in the Bolshevik leadership between Lenin on the one hand and Bogdanov and Krasin on the other. Despite the success of the robbery, the Bolsheviks were unable to use most of the large bills, as their numbers were known to the police. Lenin planned the simultaneous cashing of large banknotes by various persons in various banks throughout Europe in January 1908, but this plan failed, as a result of which several participants were arrested, and the case received worldwide publicity and backlash from European social democrats.
    3. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 8 January 2023 13: 28
      -2
      Medvedev can be immediately crossed out, like already messed up. Surovikin? So far he has not distinguished himself, except perhaps with a "difficult decision" .. Kadyrov is right on the topic of negotiations, but not right on the "fact of theft of huge funds." More precisely, it reaches the right addressee - the US military-industrial complex. And then? They master and rub their hands. I can’t say anything about Prigozhin. Although, his “pets” are great, no doubt
    4. Luka Nord
      Luka Nord 8 January 2023 13: 34
      -3
      Quote: Maz
      I see three or four likely candidates for the presidency of Russia, these are: Kadyrov, Surovikin, Prigozhin and Medvedev...

      And I hope that there will be a "gray horse" and no worse than GDP .. Stop shuffling the same deck already .. And God forbid if Medvedev crawls into prezi .. He is a nerd trying to play the role of a hawk.
      Quote: Maz
      I wonder how many officials steal from us? too many volunteers supply what should be in the army at the expense of the budget.

      Well, now you can steal, of course, but what to do with the money? The West is now actively separating them and robbing them by blocking accounts and their real estate. robbed other avens and friedmans ..
      This is very good for Russia, but it’s difficult, but we are clearing ourselves of bloodsuckers and the fifth column ..
      I hope everything will work out for us and the main goal of Russia is not Ukraine, but to lower the United States and knock out their predatory policy towards many countries of the world and they look at us with hope.
      That's what I think, and there's a lot we don't know yet.
      PS Do you remember that liberals and shitcrats poked us in the face that in the West "private property is sacred and freedom of speech .."? Now we all have seen what this democracy is based on, this is tyranny, double standards and cynicism in relation to small countries and peoples
      1. The fog
        The fog 8 January 2023 14: 07
        +5
        Speak fluently, just forget that those whom Russia gets rid of and purged in power and these guys are not going to go anywhere. That is why the strange military operation is proceeding as it is. Therefore, even before the start of the operation, our army was prepared as it was prepared. All this is patriotic-pink-wet fantasies of a 16-year-old boy... Alas!
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 8 January 2023 14: 45
          +6
          Quote from LaNiebla
          those from whom Russia gets rid and cleared in power

          And who has Russia got rid of and is being cleansed of? No one resigned, Chubais himself resigned and leaked. All at their jobs.
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 8 January 2023 14: 47
        +4
        Quote from Luka Nord
        ... the main goal of Russia is not Ukraine, but to lower the United States ...

        Are you serious about the USA? What are you going to lower, lowerer?
        1. gurzuf
          gurzuf 8 January 2023 15: 59
          -1
          Than, than, but in order not to prevent her from descending herself.
      3. Machito
        Machito 8 January 2023 15: 18
        +2
        Quote from Luka Nord
        Quote: Maz
        I see three or four likely candidates for the presidency of Russia, these are: Kadyrov, Surovikin, Prigozhin and Medvedev...

        And I hope that there will be a "gray horse" and no worse than GDP .. Stop shuffling the same deck already .. And God forbid if Medvedev crawls into prezi .. He is a nerd trying to play the role of a hawk.
        Quote: Maz
        I wonder how many officials steal from us? too many volunteers supply what should be in the army at the expense of the budget.

        Well, now you can steal, of course, but what to do with the money? The West is now actively separating them and robbing them by blocking accounts and their real estate. robbed other avens and friedmans ..
        This is very good for Russia, but it’s difficult, but we are clearing ourselves of bloodsuckers and the fifth column ..
        I hope everything will work out for us and the main goal of Russia is not Ukraine, but to lower the United States and knock out their predatory policy towards many countries of the world and they look at us with hope.
        That's what I think, and there's a lot we don't know yet.
        PS Do you remember that liberals and shitcrats poked us in the face that in the West "private property is sacred and freedom of speech .."? Now we all have seen what this democracy is based on, this is tyranny, double standards and cynicism in relation to small countries and peoples

        You talk apolitically. Where to put the stolen money? Russia has made a turn from the West to the East. That there is nowhere to put money in the East? Vaughn Polonsky on his own island ran from the police in Thailand like a naked monkey, and he did not need the West to hide the stolen.
    5. Comandor777
      Comandor777 8 January 2023 13: 45
      +13
      Quote: Maz
      I see three or four likely candidates for the presidency of Russia, these are: Kadyrov, Surovikin, Prigozhin and Medvedev. And Shoigu as an option ... I wonder how many officials are stealing from us funds going to the NWO? Too many volunteers supply what should be in the army at the expense of the budget.

      I haven't read such nonsense in a long time.
    6. Argon
      Argon 8 January 2023 13: 50
      0
      KRA see the maximum as Minister of the Interior. Yes, he is a patriot and completely his own, but in such positions you need many more qualities, besides zeal and patriotism. The only reason he can run for president is just because of his image. Frighten "partners"! They then understand that "this one can."
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 8 January 2023 13: 58
        +3
        Quote: Argon
        KRA see the maximum as Minister of the Interior.

        The country's police officers are on alert belay they say, where is Kolokoltseva?
    7. Terenin
      Terenin 8 January 2023 13: 55
      0
      Quote: Maz
      I wonder how many officials are stealing funds from us going to the NWO?

      Today Shoigu reports to Putin. Let's see how objective and truthful this report will be.
    8. Stas157
      Stas157 8 January 2023 14: 18
      +2
      Quote: Maz
      I see three or four likely candidates for the presidency of Russia, these are: Kadyrov, Surovikin, Prigozhin and Medvedev. and Shoigu

      Are there no others?

      Must beat the lair of satanists in the center of Kyiv!

      Hitting Satanists is sacred.
    9. Gardamir
      Gardamir 8 January 2023 14: 27
      +9
      I see probable three or four candidates for the presidency of Russia,
      Here are people like you who voted for Yeltsin in 1996 ..
    10. Overlock
      Overlock 8 January 2023 14: 37
      +5
      Quote: Maz
      I see three or four likely candidates for the presidency of Russia, these are: Kadyrov, Surovikin, Prigozhin and Medvedev. And Shoigu as an option ...

      The services of none of them will be in demand, there will be one who is in the shadows. And besides, no one will ask our opinion
    11. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 8 January 2023 14: 39
      +3
      Quote: Maz
      I see three or four likely candidates for the presidency of Russia, these are:

      there will be Putin or a successor that no one has heard of!!!
    12. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 8 January 2023 17: 05
      -2
      Quote: Maz
      I see three or four likely candidates for the presidency of Russia, these are: Kadyrov, Surovikin, Prigozhin and Medvedev. And Shoigu as an option ... I wonder how many officials are stealing from us funds going to the NWO? Too many volunteers supply what should be in the army at the expense of the budget.

      Don't worry about what you need.
      It is worth listening to Kadyrov's words already on the grounds that he pulled his republic out of a complete opus!
      1. AdAstra
        AdAstra 8 January 2023 21: 34
        0
        You have so much money from the outside and you would stretch your area.
    13. flyer
      flyer 8 January 2023 19: 50
      0
      In reality, maximum Prigogine. The figures of the rest are extremely contradictory.
    14. for
      for 9 January 2023 08: 15
      0
      Quote: Maz
      I wonder how many officials are stealing funds from us going to the NWO?

      Just ask your candidates.
  2. voice of reason
    voice of reason 8 January 2023 13: 23
    +3
    It is right that such attitudes are publicly voiced. And probably not by itself. so everything is fine, there will be no truce, and if there are any negotiations, it will only be about the surrender of the former Ukraine and on our terms. And interestingly, each of our next proposals is worse for them than the previous one:
    - first they asked to demilitarize, refuse to join NATO and stop shelling the Donbass along the line of demarcation of the Minsk agreements
    -after the start of the NWO, it was proposed, in addition to demilitarization and denazification, to completely liberate the territories of the LPR and DPR to the administrative borders
    -now these requirements have been supplemented by the complete liberation of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions of Russia.
    the trend is obvious, however, so four regions will remain until the surrender from the former Ukraine ...
    1. Vyacheslav57
      Vyacheslav57 8 January 2023 13: 37
      +3
      This bodyaga has been going on since 2014, as soon as the Ukrainians fly into another cauldron, the West immediately offers a truce. At this stage, everyone understood that nothing shines for Ukraine in this war, and they immediately started talking about a truce. More recently, NATO and the European Union have declared . that the war will be until the victory of Ukraine and the dismemberment of Russia.
      1. Asad
        Asad 8 January 2023 14: 10
        +6
        Kindly, what kind of cauldron did the Ukrainians fall into, and who specifically offers from the West to offer negotiations?
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 January 2023 14: 40
        +6
        This has been going on since 2014
        On February 24, the troops entered Ukraine, and four days later they proposed negotiations. Don't believe me, the internet remembers everything. ask him.
      3. Overlock
        Overlock 8 January 2023 14: 43
        +3
        Quote: Vyacheslav57
        At this stage, everyone understood that nothing shines for Ukraine in this war, and they immediately started talking about a truce.

        Equilibrist. Zelensky has been refusing to negotiate since March, but someone keeps talking about them every month. Who is this?
      4. Fat
        Fat 8 January 2023 19: 29
        +1
        Quote: Vyacheslav57
        as soon as the Ukrainians fly into another boiler, the West immediately offers a truce. At this stage, everyone understood that nothing shines for Ukraine in this war, and they immediately started talking about a truce

        hi How are you going to justify
        Quote: Vyacheslav57
        At this stage, everyone understood that nothing shines for Ukraine in this war, and they immediately started talking about a truce.

        Didn't see...
        Quote: Vyacheslav57
        NATO and the EU have said that the war will be until the victory of Ukraine and the dismemberment of Russia.

        Officially or through the blog of another prophet-analyst?
        Please, point to something other than stop the hundred and first set of prescriptions and WEAPONS that will really resist lazy "dominance" of the RF Armed Forces .... request
  3. incoggnoto
    incoggnoto 8 January 2023 13: 24
    +5
    he is right, any negotiations are just words, we have already agreed to negotiations, when the troops were withdrawn from Kyiv, how it ended, I think everyone remembers.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 January 2023 13: 30
      +10
      how history turns out. Previously, many looked at Ramzan as an enemy, and now, as a hope, a friend, someone who can be trusted, and not those who are in the offices. he didn't have.
      1. spirit
        spirit 8 January 2023 14: 01
        +5
        how history turns out. Previously, many looked at Ramzan as an enemy
        Do not believe the Danes who bring gifts. They all say beautifully, what the electorate wants to hear right now. Kadyrov’s guard (the main one and not volunteers), unlike Wagner, does not participate in assaults on the forehead. Kadyrov apparently protects her, apparently realizing that in the future he will need her for other confrontations .I ask Ramzan Akhmatovich for forgiveness for these words, of coursehi laughing
        1. RED_ICE
          RED_ICE 8 January 2023 14: 11
          +3
          Well, Kadyrov’s guard is the National Guard, and it also has other tasks, just like the explosives used to, namely the cleansing of the liberated territories.
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 8 January 2023 14: 40
            +8
            Quote: RED_ICE
            Well, Kadyrov's guard is the Russian Guard

            So it is, but a little different
        2. Argon
          Argon 8 January 2023 21: 54
          0
          So Kadyrov does not have heavy equipment to attack like this in the forehead. In the city, yes, they fight well, in the field, well, they won’t be able to against tanks, hailstones, self-propelled guns, bombers and TD TD
        3. AdAstra
          AdAstra 8 January 2023 22: 06
          -1
          You do not have the correct nickname take away from the "voice of reason". This subject of politics says what the majority wants to hear now, but I think it’s worth just turning the finance tap a little and other speeches can go. hi
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 8 January 2023 14: 41
        +4
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Previously, many looked at Ramzan as an enemy, and now, as a hope, a friend, someone who can be trusted

        The wind of hope is unstable, you just have to blow it in the other direction
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 8 January 2023 14: 46
        +3
        Previously, many looked like an enemy, and now, as a hope, a friend,
        Brains can be cleared in different ways. Only nothing has changed. Put Kadyrov as a minister and you will read the Koran and bow to the Chechens you meet.
        1. Argon
          Argon 8 January 2023 21: 51
          0
          All right. The brains were cleared earlier and very deeply. The Koran and Islam are presented as terrorist sources, and now it is not believed that Islam is a religion of peace. So deep cleared the brains of the Jews around the world!
    2. Overlock
      Overlock 8 January 2023 14: 39
      +4
      Quote from incoggnoto
      we had already agreed to negotiations when we withdrew troops from Kyiv

      Do not twist, the withdrawal of troops was presented as a goodwill gesture of the Russian Federation.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 8 January 2023 15: 32
        +3
        Chechens also suffer considerable losses, who does not know.
    3. flyer
      flyer 8 January 2023 19: 52
      +2
      They were taken away because it was impossible for those forces to keep such a long front line.
  4. expert
    expert 8 January 2023 13: 31
    +7
    Until a radical defeat, and several times, is inflicted on the enemy, the Western "breadwinners of Ukraine" will not allow the Ukrainian side to conduct any negotiations (on surrender). Yes, and in the minds of the vast majority of Ukrainians today, "Ukraine is one step away from victory, soon Crimea and Donbass and the annexed (occupied) regions will be recaptured." The one that, I think, is still long and hard for ours to advance to Kyiv. But Kharkov, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa are ahead ...
    1. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 8 January 2023 13: 43
      +6
      Look at the history of the Second World War, what (!!!) groups they took and besieged those cities that you listed ...
      And what were the losses.
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 8 January 2023 15: 20
        +1
        So, you, in turn, look at which groups defended them. The Crimean offensive operation, in terms of all the forces involved, is approximately the same as everything that participates in the NWO, and even surpasses it in aviation. There are only 2 air armies and aviation of the Black Sea Fleet from our side.
    2. cooper
      cooper 8 January 2023 13: 47
      -7
      Totally deprive the entire ukroreykh of electricity and the war will end almost immediately. The only question is the political will of the Russian leadership. But with this for now .. alas.
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 8 January 2023 14: 02
        -2
        Yeah, completely deprive the saloreichs of electricity and get five Chernobyls at hand? At least sometimes think with your head. Or are you not aware that without constant power, an irreversible reaction and a big badaboom occur in power units, and then a small northern animal comes?
        1. Osipov9391
          Osipov9391 8 January 2023 16: 52
          -1
          Here I agree with you.
          No one will completely de-energize Ukraine - because this will cause the de-energization of three nuclear power plants and, in fact, give carte blanche to send NATO troops to Ukraine under the mandate of the IAEA and the UN.
          Diesels are available at all units, but the de-energization of the stations can still provoke severe nuclear accidents.
          From the Khmelnitsky nuclear power plant, radiation will touch Belarus, from the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant it will touch Crimea.
    3. RED_ICE
      RED_ICE 8 January 2023 14: 12
      0
      There will be no Kharkov, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa. Maximum liberation of the territory of Donbass. And along the Dnieper border.
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 8 January 2023 15: 23
        +2
        Why won't it? Because you feel like it? To begin with, neither you nor anyone knows the border along the Dnieper, in how many cities on the Dnieper in its Ukrainian part have you been? If they were, they would be aware that Kyiv and Dnepropetrovsk are located on both banks and along the Left Bank there are Kharkov, Poltava and other important cities.
    4. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 January 2023 14: 36
      +1
      Quote: Fachmann
      ...., Western "breadwinners of Ukraine" will not allow the Ukrainian side any negotiations (on surrender) ...... it's still hard for ours to advance to Kyiv. But Kharkov, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa are ahead ...

      There is a war between NATO and Russia on the territory of Ukraine. Ukrovoyska is a means of the West, a glove on his hand. The puppies don't understand this. And the West intends to destroy Russia! Russia should not go to any negotiations!
      1. expert
        expert 8 January 2023 14: 50
        +6
        After the "bell" disappeared, it became very difficult to maintain a discussion of topics. Information about the answer or reaction of the interlocutor does not come.
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 8 January 2023 15: 23
          +2
          That's for sure, I don't know how to see who answered or not.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 8 January 2023 15: 24
          +3
          Quote: Fachmann
          ..... Information about the answer or reaction of the interlocutor does not come.

          Ukrobots stole the bell and continue to crawl around the site and shit. sad But before the bell was not at all! I had to go into my comments and follow them. From them again go to the article. What am I doing now. Of course, slowdown, but what to do? request
    5. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 8 January 2023 16: 39
      0
      . soon both Crimea and Donbass and the annexed (occupied) regions will be recaptured

      If there is information by whom and by what forces they will be recaptured by Ukraine, write immediately. It will be necessary to inform the APU. And neither they nor we know
    6. flyer
      flyer 8 January 2023 19: 56
      0
      These cities would be ahead if all the military decided. And when representatives of the business elites decide everything behind the scenes, at least keep these territories.
  5. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 8 January 2023 13: 38
    -1
    The fighting is now going on in Russia. These are our regions that wished to become part of our state in order to protect the population from the satanic actions of Ukrainian and NATO nationalists. Therefore, there should be no negotiations. We must hit the lair of Satanists in the center of Kyiv! We must hit the main defender and agitator of this vile ideology - Zelensky


    Well done Kadyrov! Big plus for him! Here is someone who has real Faberge, a real man!
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 8 January 2023 14: 00
      +5
      It’s necessary, it’s necessary)) Well, he took it and sent the cleaners to the lair, without looking back at the Kremlin handbrakes, Then you can interpret for Faberge, and so why clap your hands .... Everyone knows what only needs to be done by no one.
    2. sadam2
      sadam2 8 January 2023 16: 29
      0
      For a long time the Infantryman has not been PR. Everyone switched to Prigogine. Two months of silence about Akhmat ... we are the grandmothers of the market here. But Kadrov knows more, and if he voices about negotiations, then undercover processes have to be ... let's see in dynamics
  6. sanik2020
    sanik2020 8 January 2023 13: 40
    +9
    This war should end not with negotiations, but with the unconditional surrender of the Banderia on Russia's terms. But for this it is simply necessary to return to itself the entire left-bank and southern territories, and of course Kyiv, as the mother of Russian cities. If not, then this abscess will remain for Russia forever.
  7. YOUR
    YOUR 8 January 2023 13: 42
    +9
    I do not like such talk - Russia does not need to make concessions to the West and sit down at the negotiating table on their terms.
    If they started talking, then something is planned.
  8. cooper
    cooper 8 January 2023 13: 44
    +6
    "..destroy the leadership of the nationalists.." - Exactly! And it is very strange that the Russian leadership has not yet realized this. Very strange.....
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 8 January 2023 16: 28
      0
      Never destroy the manual. Even kings preferred to be captured. Another will come in their place, and the people will become more hardened. Here to outbid or destroy the handy .. It used to be
  9. Osipov9391
    Osipov9391 8 January 2023 13: 49
    +9
    Desire does not always coincide with possibilities.
    There must be action behind the word.
    Negotiating positions must be backed by a position of strength.
    But today Russia has nothing of this.
    Almost a year of hostilities and the RF Armed Forces have not been able to take control
    not over one of the regional cities - Kherson and he lost.

    And why is that?
    Mainly simply because of the disastrously low number of troops in
    Peaceful time!
    The number established by a strong-willed decision from above is 280 thousand Ground Forces,
    9 thousand Marines, in the region of 50 thousand Airborne Forces.
    For the territory of Ukraine, this is nothing at all - you need at least 5-6 times more!
    But no one thought to fight, they expected a coup.

    In general, the Russian authorities did everything as the West planned - they withstood the time
    for the rearmament and retraining of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the expense of the Minsk agreements, they believed false
    information about the upcoming February coup in Kyiv to overthrow Zelensky.
    All their plans worked.
    And now a dead end.
  10. Alexga
    Alexga 8 January 2023 13: 49
    +7
    Here I read the local articles and comments on them and a few strange thoughts begin to come to my head. For example:
    1. The site works in the interests of the FSB, in order to determine the mood on the ground, and find dissidents and their possible isolation.
    2. The site works in the interests of the CIA, in order to determine the mood on the ground, and find its likely followers and their possible use in carrying out the "color revolution in Russia.
    The third option is less likely, I'm talking about the fact that a large number of "immortals" have gathered here. Let me explain why I write this way. I refer to the events of the 20th in Belarus. This is what happened here, the second option before the events and during them, and the first option during the events and after them. And intelligence agencies always learn useful experience. So, I recommend everyone to use the experience of neighbors.
    1. Machito
      Machito 8 January 2023 15: 25
      +9
      Quote: AlexGa
      Here I read the local articles and comments on them and a few strange thoughts begin to come to my head. For example:
      1. The site works in the interests of the FSB, in order to determine the mood on the ground, and find dissidents and their possible isolation.
      2. The site works in the interests of the CIA, in order to determine the mood on the ground, and find its likely followers and their possible use in carrying out the "color revolution in Russia.
      The third option is less likely, I'm talking about the fact that a large number of "immortals" have gathered here. Let me explain why I write this way. I refer to the events of the 20th in Belarus. This is what happened here, the second option before the events and during them, and the first option during the events and after them. And intelligence agencies always learn useful experience. So, I recommend everyone to use the experience of neighbors.

      The Immortals have gathered here. And many of them are already far from young people.
      You need to be a very brave person to be a coward in the Red Army. (C)
      They will not send further than the front. No more bullets. soldier
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 8 January 2023 16: 17
        +1
        The Immortals have gathered here. And many of them are already far from young people.

        It is regrettable that life wisdom has not been acquired. You might think this category has a second home somewhere else. Alas, when authorities interested in the security of the state take this public for Faberge, they immediately become true patriots of their country. It is a pity that with the advent of the Internet, the responsibility of a person for his statements tends to zero. But, it is quite possible that there are many conquerors of the Upper Lars. Yes, and ukrobots are also present.
    2. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 8 January 2023 16: 19
      +2
      . I refer to the events of the 20th in Belarus

      Well no. I'm younger.
      I suggest the following options:
      The site works in the interests of profit
      Everyone, including us, the FSB and the CIA, uses this.
      The number of ad views is on the rise. Profit too soldier
      We have the opportunity to discuss the news drinks
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 8 January 2023 16: 24
        +1
        Well no. I'm younger.

        I'm sorry, I meant 20202. what
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 8 January 2023 16: 47
          +2
          I'm sorry, I meant 20202

          Well, damn it!!! 2020!
  11. Arkady007
    Arkady007 8 January 2023 13: 52
    +1
    And how many officials in the Kremlin think like Ramzan?
    Oh, I'm afraid it's minuscule.
    Otherwise, I can’t explain why they ended up for the New Year holidays, for the most part, far beyond the borders of Russia. Traitors in their souls and opportunistic grasshoppers.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 8 January 2023 14: 48
      +4
      And how many officials in the Kremlin think like Ramzan?
      Who told you what he thinks. just like he says?
  12. codetalker
    codetalker 8 January 2023 13: 57
    +3
    First, a complete military victory, then negotiations with NATO on collective security. Everything else is the road to the destruction of Russia.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 8 January 2023 14: 50
      +3
      First complete military victory
      Name in the leadership of Russia. who wants a military victory.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 8 January 2023 16: 12
        +3
        Why did they start all this?
        Whose and what is the interest? recourse
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 8 January 2023 18: 31
          -1
          Quote: igorbrsv
          Why did they start all this?
          Whose and what is the interest?

          We (as a people) did not start it.
          Not Ukrainians (as a people) started it.
          The interests of the bourgeoisie on both sides and the external puppeteers coincide.
          They are being implemented. hi
      2. Chronos
        Chronos 8 January 2023 19: 09
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        First complete military victory
        Name in the leadership of Russia. who wants a military victory.

        Yes, everyone wants to, but unfortunately many people live in the world of beautiful reports and think that victory will come anyway, without effort. Everything is easier. In Russia, they always look for betrayal where there is sloppiness.
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 8 January 2023 19: 22
          +1
          Obviously not all.
          A significant part of the Motherland was sold for a promise to allow them to go shopping in Milan, drink coffee in Paris, unblock accounts and return yachts with palaces. Their sabotage work is now commonly called "bungling".
          But there are obviously those who are fighting for victory.
          1. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 8 January 2023 19: 37
            +1
            It remains to be hoped that those who were allowed to enter Milan will leave us forever crying
            If only they didn't come back
  13. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 8 January 2023 13: 58
    -4
    It seems that Kadyrov and Progozin have the clearest ideas. Forget about truces and stories with Turkey. The people do not want another betrayal like the one in 1989.
  14. Soul of Russia87
    Soul of Russia87 8 January 2023 14: 01
    0
    I see that some are worried about foreign aid to Ukraine. Do not worry! This is a money laundering scheme. Officials from the West and Ukraine will plunder these funds and no more than 15% of the total amount of support will reach the trenches


    Working or not, the fact is on the face. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are now dressed in NATO clothes, eat NATO rations, produce electricity at the front on NATO generators and drive NATO vehicles. Watching how the Ukrainians heartily pour out khimari for each rotten shed, the volume of military aid that reached the front is more than! So the Russian soldier from his words is neither cold nor hot!
  15. Serge9901
    Serge9901 8 January 2023 14: 09
    +3
    I read the comments, I support almost all of them. BUT, guys, we're kind of trying to persuade ourselves here: "no negotiations, only capitulation!". Three hands for. And tomorrow, when there is some kind of breakthrough (let them take Kramatorsk there or go to the borders of the DPR) - they will squeal the United States about negotiations and force the Zelenskys to go for them - all our Kremlins will RUN, stumbling and overtaking each other to sign ANY pieces of paper. History is an objective thing. It will turn out very bitterly again, unfortunately ...
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 8 January 2023 16: 09
      -1
      . our Kremlins will RUN, stumbling and overtaking each other to sign ANY pieces of paper

      Then I would like to know. What started it all? Did they really need Kramatorsk? Our Kremlins.
      . History is an objective thing

      That's it. It all started a long time ago. From Gorbach. And in the return line, events rushed starting to accelerate in 2008. Ossetia with Obkhazia, Crimea, Syria, the Merikos gave back from Afghanistan, Donbass, now here are a few more regions. I don’t know who is in charge of all this theater, but all sorts of Chubais and Germans would not pinch personal belongings of their own free will stop
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 8 January 2023 18: 38
        0
        So Chubais and Vzyakim Kozyrevs no one pinched anything.
        Serve faithfully those whom they served.
        The only question is who the secret services served all this time.
        1. Fat
          Fat 8 January 2023 18: 54
          +1
          Special services, always serve their own special That's why they and the special services are interested .... It has been so customary since ancient times .... "Those who have real" info "and motivation - have a planet" (c). Other details... wassat
          Keep you and us, the corresponding "Egregor" ...
  16. zontov79
    zontov79 8 January 2023 14: 18
    0
    Completely agree with Ramzan! Putin would listen to him now.
  17. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 January 2023 14: 20
    +3
    The head of Chechnya did NOT pay attention to the fact that many in Russia are worried about the assistance provided to Ukraine from the Kremlin. Supply of coal. oil. gas, money transfers,
    I clarify.
  18. Kerensky
    Kerensky 8 January 2023 14: 34
    +2
    These are our regions that wished to become part of our state in order to protect the population from satanic actions of Ukrainian and NATO nationalists. Therefore, there should be no negotiations. Gotta hit the lair Satanists in the center of Kyiv!

    This was stated by Ramzan Kadyrov in his TG channel.


    There is a feeling that someone is leading the channel to Kadyrov. If I wrote it myself, then I would operate with the concept of "Shaitan". It's a shame....
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 8 January 2023 19: 06
      0
      Quote: Kerensky

      There is a feeling that someone is leading the channel to Kadyrov. If I wrote it myself, then I would operate with the concept of "Shaitan". It's a shame....

      Of course, Kadyrov's channel, like any major official, is run by professional journalists. But such posts do not appear without his approval. So we can assume that this is the position of Kadyrov himself.
  19. Egeny
    Egeny 8 January 2023 14: 35
    +2
    there should be no negotiations. It is necessary to hit the lair of Satanists in the center of Kyiv!

    ...and finish. Angela Merkel and Francois Hollande not so long ago confirmed the meaning of such "negotiations", so far as the Polish border. And we'll see.)
  20. pariarg
    pariarg 8 January 2023 14: 55
    -4
    After the death of a Jew and a pederast (medical term) Zhirik
    for the role of "truth-reader" voice-over of platitudes
    they appointed a Chechen Nazi and Russian cutter Kadyrov.
    "Two by two is four!" - academician!
    "The Volga flows into the Caspian Sea!" - to the throne of the genius of geopolitics!

    Surprises the level of people leading to such a primitive PR.
  21. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 8 January 2023 15: 38
    +1
    Quote: pariarg
    After the death of a Jew and a pederast (medical term) Zhirik
    for the role of "truth-reader" voice-over of platitudes
    they appointed a Chechen Nazi and Russian cutter Kadyrov.
    "Two by two is four!" - academician!
    "The Volga flows into the Caspian Sea!" - to the throne of the genius of geopolitics!

    Surprises the level of people leading to such a primitive PR.

    Ramzan..at him!. yes
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 8 January 2023 15: 58
      -3
      Where do these "pariargs" come from on the site. Zhirik was a normal man. Hol and regards. Why until now all the towers from which "these" write have not been destroyed angry
      Anger takes
  22. Vlad Gor
    Vlad Gor 8 January 2023 15: 38
    +5
    Ramzan Kadyrov: Russia does not need to make concessions to the West and sit down at the negotiating table on their terms.
    There is only one decision on Ukraine in favor of the people of Russia. The state of Ukraine must cease to exist. The entire territory of Ukraine should return to Russia, in the form of regions and republics. There is no need to ask permission from anyone, everything must be done unilaterally. There is no state of Ukraine, no debts, no government of Ukraine in exile, no legal Bandera, no Ukrainian participants in various international organizations, no hostile state on the border of the Russian Federation. Russia will strengthen its economic and military-political influence in the world, there will be direct access to the EU countries. The northwestern part of the Black Sea will belong to Russia.
    If the state of Ukraine is left, at least a small piece, then today and in the future, Russia will always have an enemy in the person of Ukraine. Ukraine will definitely join NATO and will definitely attack Russia. Everything that is promised and will be spelled out in the Constitution of Ukraine, in its documents, Ukraine will change, as it is beneficial to the United States and its satellites.
  23. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 8 January 2023 15: 52
    +2
    . new Russian regions may not be fully liberated, and the West will achieve negotiations on its own terms

    Not all future Russian regions have held referendums yet angry
    Odessa did not hold. And everyone should have this opportunity.
    In general, no negotiations are needed. angry
    Moreover, all the cards are revealed. Now they openly spit in America's face, and let them wipe themselves off. Now at least every politician has a chance to say: Yankees, you will wipe yourself with snot
  24. Andron78
    Andron78 8 January 2023 19: 55
    0
    Surrender and more! And then a tribunal over those who live.
  25. Robert Suvorov
    Robert Suvorov 8 January 2023 21: 29
    +1
    If they go to negotiations, then they bent the Kremlin and nothing good will happen here. The next war with Ukraine will be unrealistically bloody. You can't do this. Even Merkel said that Minsk-2 was a ploy to prepare for war. She even warns us that negotiation is hell with you. Everyone screams she lied and stuff. She is the wisest politician. She literally warned that it was impossible to negotiate. We need to take everything away and make Ukraine a buffer zone. Ukraine - Outskirts of Russia
  26. sofkar
    sofkar 8 January 2023 22: 03
    0
    Once again the agenda has changed!
    ... and the West will achieve negotiations on its own terms. The head of Chechnya emphasized...

    Well, maybe the "Head of Chechnya" does not know the classics, one of whose characters said that "consent is a product with complete non-resistance of the parties." But how does everyone else in VO imagine what it takes to seat someone who disagrees and has the strength to disagree?
    If the Russian Federation does not want to, then it will not sit down for any negotiations. And all these mantras "only not negotiations, only not negotiations ..." it reminds me of the Fox and the Thorn Bush.
  27. Romanenko
    Romanenko 9 January 2023 08: 28
    0
    With two hands FOR!
    Enough already to protect principles incomprehensible to anyone, not observed in any letter by our "partners"!
    There are exact coordinates of the location of the head of the fascist viper, that's where, for starters, you need to hit.
  28. NightmareIvanych
    NightmareIvanych 9 January 2023 13: 25
    0
    Thank you Cap.
    The commentary is short and to the point.
  29. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 10 January 2023 11: 54
    0
    Truly - the West cannot be trusted - everything Ramzan says is correct!