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State Duma deputy reported on the MiG-29 fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down by the Ukrainian air defense system

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State Duma deputy reported on the MiG-29 fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down by the Ukrainian air defense system

Even the equipment of the aerobatic team "Ukrainian Falcons" is involved in military operations against Russian troops by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, while suffering losses. It is alleged that one of her cars was shot down by her own Osa air defense system near Kurakhovo.


Dmitry Sablin, deputy head of the Defense Committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, also reports on the death of the aircraft on his Telegram channel.

The State Duma deputy reported on the multi-purpose fighter MiG-29 of the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down by the Ukrainian air defense system. This happened not far from Donetsk, near the village of Kurakhovo. Sablin also posted a high-altitude photo of the crash site. Scattered next to him are supposedly fragments of an American-made HARM anti-radar missile that he had on board.


Of course, the fighter was shot down by Ukrainian air defense forces not on purpose, but by mistake. According to the deputy, who is in the NVO zone as part of the Kaskad operational-combat tactical formation (OBTF), the anti-aircraft gunners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine “dealt with” the plane on their own, and the Russian military only “helped” them a little.

Sablin believes that the Kyiv regime and the Ukrainian army tried to spoil the celebration of Christmas for the residents of Donbass.

To those who darken the Christmas joy of peaceful people, we respond harshly

- wrote the deputy.

Although the Ukrainian aviation continues to operate in the NVO zone, its remnants are being destroyed by Russian combat aircraft and air defense systems. So, on January 5, a Russian Aerospace Forces fighter destroyed an enemy Su-24 bomber near Krasnogorovka (DPR).
Photos used:
Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, https://t.me/DV_Sablin
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  1. Pharmacist
    Pharmacist 8 January 2023 12: 43
    +11
    "Although Ukrainian aviation continues to operate in the NVO zone, its remnants are being destroyed by Russian combat aircraft and air defense systems."

    So understand from the phrase who destroys whom! (hand face)
    1. expert
      expert 8 January 2023 12: 48
      +8
      Great, mighty Russian language. laughing
      And the news is good. Although yesterday they wrote in TG ...
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 8 January 2023 13: 06
        +6
        State Duma deputy reported on the MiG-29 fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down by the Ukrainian air defense system
        the deputy overslept ... everyone already knows. Celebrate the new year.
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 8 January 2023 13: 15
          +10
          Quote: Aerodrome
          State Duma deputy reported on the MiG-29 fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down by the Ukrainian air defense system
          the deputy overslept ... everyone already knows. Celebrate the new year.


          There is nothing surprising here. These are Polish Wasps, which Warsaw secretly transferred to Kiev. Surely they have not yet established recognition on the principle of friend or foe.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 8 January 2023 13: 34
            +7
            State Duma deputy reported on the MiG-29 fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down by the Ukrainian air defense system

            It was possible, for PROPAGANDISM purposes against Zelensky's office, to title the article like that.
            Ukrainian pro-Russian "PARTIZANS", who are in the personnel of the air defense of Ukraine, help the Russian Armed Forces to destroy the Uronazis and aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the sky of the NVO zone! (Joke.)

            That would be the head of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Danilov from such a form would simply be furious!
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 8 January 2023 15: 11
              +4
              Quote: Tatiana
              ?. for PROPAGANDISM purposes against Zelensky’s office, title the article…
              Correct me: what does a State Duma deputy care about a specific case at the LBS? Maybe it would be better not to read the news, but to make efforts to provide the warring units with everything they need? the impression that "War in the purse" very convenient for them - you don’t even have to think about your shortcomings
          2. The comment was deleted.
    2. Rustic
      Rustic 8 January 2023 13: 06
      +6
      So understand from the phrase who destroys whom! (hand face)
      In the exam, apparently commas are not taught to guess. After the word "remains" a comma changes the whole meaning. "Execution cannot be pardoned."
    3. begemot20091
      begemot20091 8 January 2023 13: 43
      +4
      USE - invincible.
      https://ok.ru/video/1842452105856[media=https://ok.ru/video/1842452105856]
    4. Argon
      Argon 8 January 2023 13: 48
      +2
      And they shot down mn17 not by chance at all. All prepared and agreed.
    5. Zefr
      Zefr 8 January 2023 14: 01
      -2
      According to foreign data, approximately parity in downed aircraft. About 60 pcs. from each side. For helicopters - about 50 Russian and 30 Ukrainian.
      According to our data, almost 300 Ukrainian aircraft were shot down.
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 9 January 2023 02: 31
        +3
        Quote: Zefr
        According to foreign sources...
        Where do they get this data? Here is the representative of the UN, who broadcast about Viagra, rape, and so on, honestly said that the data came from Kueva. Her apparatus did not even check ... their ombudswoman at all carried a blizzard just to get attention. Therefore, I repeat - where do the firewood come from?
        Here, according to those who, by virtue of their official position, monitor: in the air, a serious advantage is not to the side Zhovto Blakyd "Falcons"
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 12 January 2023 03: 33
        +2
        And by the way, after
        Quote: Zefr
        According to foreign data..
        Quote:
        Flightglobal
        Ukraine claims to have downed 283 fixed-wing aircraft and 270 helicopters since Russia's invasion on 24 February 2022.
        While this is likely an exaggeration, Russian losses have been significant. In September 2022, US Air Force General James Hecker reportedly said that up until that month Russia had lost 55 aircraft.
        Even these are already doubting the statements quarter 95
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 8 January 2023 12: 45
    +4
    This is not the first flashlight from the aerobatic team of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. expert
      expert 8 January 2023 12: 49
      +4
      Yes exactly. In my opinion, the second, decorated.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 8 January 2023 12: 45
    +3
    . The public claims that one of her cars was shot down by her own Osa air defense system near Kurakhovo.
    . So, in a war, as in a war ...
    The news, of course, is being replicated, but it is desirable to hear official confirmation.
  4. Vyacheslav57
    Vyacheslav57 8 January 2023 12: 46
    +9
    The air defense of Ukraine is the most terrible warriors for both their own and others. Polish tractor can confirm .
  5. iouris
    iouris 8 January 2023 12: 51
    +2
    This is an unofficial message and you can discuss it - unofficially.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 8 January 2023 14: 32
      +1
      The war is going on, including the information war, so all means are good!
      This is what prevents us from officially declaring that "As a result of a sabotage operation, an enemy fighter was destroyed. The participants in the operation were presented with state awards!" wassat
      I think that after this, the crew of this "Wasp" will lose working capacity for a long time ... wink
      IMHO hi
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 8 January 2023 14: 51
        +1
        the crew of this "Wasp"

        Complex calculation? Yes, I'm nitpicking. The horns are in the soup, and the machine has shops (food, detachable, sector).
        1. engineer74
          engineer74 8 January 2023 15: 06
          0
          "Combat vehicle" or "Anti-aircraft missile system", or "Combat vehicle as part of the complex"? recourse
  6. YOUR
    YOUR 8 January 2023 12: 51
    +3
    In theory, the defendant should be someone else's, but fortunately he was not. Either by plane or by Osa.
    1. private person
      private person 8 January 2023 13: 07
      -1
      In theory, the defendant should be someone else's

      NRZ most likely just had little time to make a decision for both the pilot and the calculation of the air defense system. Or you or you.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 8 January 2023 13: 40
        +6
        The answer comes automatically, there is a "flare" of the radar transponder automatically answers. On the screen, the mark from the target is an arc on top. All our aircraft. Apparently, there was simply no other option on the air defense system, the codes are constantly changed in peacetime, and in the military they should be even more often. It is possible that the change did not occur on the air defense system.
        Actually, what's the difference filled up there and the road to him. Another calculation of the air defense system is preparing for the military field.
        1. private person
          private person 8 January 2023 13: 59
          +1
          The answer comes automatically, there is a "flare" of the radar transponder automatically answers.

          I don’t know about the Wasp, but when I passed the urgent one on the Buk M1, this task was the responsibility of the head of the calculation, that is, to submit a request to the NRZ and he also determines whether or not to destroy the target.
    2. alexoff
      alexoff 8 January 2023 13: 39
      +1
      Well, if you fly with the transponder turned on, then the enemies can attach it, this is a light
      1. 28st region
        28st region 8 January 2023 14: 01
        +3
        The signal is coded. moreover, the codes are such that solving them is another task.
        1. alexoff
          alexoff 8 January 2023 15: 06
          0
          Why decode the signal? The plane is either yours or not. If you see that someone responds to the light is not our way, then shoot.
          1. 28st region
            28st region 9 January 2023 04: 23
            0
            How do you determine by the mark your plane or not? I do not know such methods. The response signals from combat aircraft and civilians are different. What to encode for? The enemy plane will fly with the defendant to Moscow with a bomb.
            There were several cases of hijacking our aircraft, the notorious Belenko hijacked a MiG-25 in the Far East, all these escapes cost billions because the identification system had to be completely changed.
            As it is now with Ukraine, yes the jester knows him. It is quite possible that neither Russia nor Ukraine bothered to change this system. There is no type of money.
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 9 January 2023 00: 39
      0
      Do our fully captured MANPADS have such a system on them? So you can't see it visually.
      1. Andy_nsk
        Andy_nsk 9 January 2023 19: 13
        0
        Do our fully captured MANPADS have such a system on them? So you can't see it visually.

        There is no friend or foe system on MANPADS.
  7. PVV66
    PVV66 8 January 2023 12: 52
    0
    Why don't Ukrainians use the friend or foe identification system?!
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 8 January 2023 13: 21
      +6
      Enjoy. The system "who does not jump, that Muscovite." It's easy to recognize.
  8. Sergey Aleksandrovich
    Sergey Aleksandrovich 8 January 2023 12: 52
    +19
    Interestingly, the Ukrainian crew of the air defense vehicle will apply to the RF Ministry of Defense for a bonus of 300 thousand rubles for the downed aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? belay
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 8 January 2023 14: 19
      +7
      Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
      Interestingly, the Ukrainian crew of the air defense vehicle will apply to the RF Ministry of Defense for a bonus of 300 thousand rubles for the downed aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? belay

      You have to pay double! Those who repeat from the Armed Forces of Ukraine - pay triple !!! wassat
      1. novel66
        novel66 8 January 2023 14: 26
        +5
        A very interesting idea, it is necessary to the masses by all means!
  9. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 8 January 2023 12: 59
    +5
    I read the title of the post three times. Oh, these "victims of the Unified State Examination" in journalism! Well, there is the term "friendly fire" - and here they cheated so much: who shot down whom, how and why, ugh.
  10. topol717
    topol717 8 January 2023 12: 59
    +3
    It's all sad. Kanash declared about air supremacy 6 months ago, but since that moment the planes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been falling every day, and most likely there are many planes that do not fall. But we have air supremacy, only at very low altitudes.
    1. Vladimir Postnikov
      Vladimir Postnikov 8 January 2023 13: 11
      +1
      Quote from: topol717
      But we have air supremacy, only at very low altitudes.
      Is this what crocodiles fly on?
      1. novel66
        novel66 8 January 2023 14: 28
        +3
        Yes, and work only from cabling, that is, to the village of grandfather, Nikanor Ivanych
  11. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 8 January 2023 13: 03
    +2
    So, on January 5, a Russian Aerospace Forces fighter destroyed an enemy Su-24 bomber near Krasnogorovka (DPR)

    Shot down and shot down by these Su-24s, daily

    PS. It will not be possible to make up for the losses of the Su-24 from anywhere from abroad. Su-24s have never been delivered to the countries of Eastern Europe
    1. Leshak
      Leshak 8 January 2023 13: 18
      +1
      Quote: Santa Fe

      Shot down and shot down by these Su-24s, daily

      PS. It will not be possible to make up for the losses of the Su-24 from anywhere from abroad. Su-24s have never been delivered to the countries of Eastern Europe

      There are also countries of the former USSR that help Ukraine without advertising. Lots of volunteers.
      1. Old_geologist
        Old_geologist 8 January 2023 13: 35
        +4
        Yes, then Azerbaijan will quietly sell, then Kazakhstan ... damn friends ...
        1. Santa Fe
          Santa Fe 8 January 2023 18: 57
          0
          then Azerbaijan will quietly sell

          And how many Su-24s did he have and do they exist at all?

          Data for 2008 - there were 11 Su-24 units, how many survived until 2022 is unknown in open sources, numbers from 0 to 2
  12. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 8 January 2023 13: 09
    +2
    State Duma deputy reported on the MiG-29 fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down by the Ukrainian air defense system
    An hour later, another former deputy reported a downed fighter. Earlier, a well-known blogger reported about the downed fighter. In total, three Ukrainian fighters have been shot down today.
    Although Ukrainian aviation continues to operate in the NVO zone, its remnants are being destroyed by Russian combat aircraft and air defense systems.
    The rest is how much?
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 8 January 2023 13: 24
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
      The rest is how much?

      How many Sablin did not shoot down, because he writes from the field immediately, in the thick of things, so to speak
  13. nepunamemuk
    nepunamemuk 8 January 2023 13: 16
    +1
    Dmitry Sablin, deputy head of the Defense Committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, also reports on the death of the aircraft on his Telegram channel.

    the plane can't die sad
    he is not alive am
    1. novel66
      novel66 8 January 2023 14: 31
      +3
      he is not alive

      Here I would (and anyone related to aviation) would argue
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 8 January 2023 16: 21
        0
        I and the mother vacuum cleaner when he gets confused under his feet ... and he has a name "robin-bobbin", patamushta HE is alive, and his intelligence is above the average for the country among the USE students!
  14. Nick2591
    Nick2591 8 January 2023 13: 22
    +4
    What only our deputies do not do, but what they need, they do not do
  15. Overlock
    Overlock 8 January 2023 13: 22
    +1
    Before Sablin, this was already known. It happens.
  16. topol717
    topol717 8 January 2023 13: 33
    +2
    Judging by the coordinates on the photo, this is either beyond the Arctic Circle or in Kazakhstan.
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 8 January 2023 15: 26
      -1
      It is necessary to look at the globe U and everything will be in openwork within the framework of the correction factor (+ - half a shoe) smile
  17. Codett
    Codett 8 January 2023 13: 47
    +2
    Damn, where did they get so many MiGs from, did they set up their production or something, even the Europeans don’t have as many Soviet aircraft as Konoshenkov destroyed, although he already buried the Ukrovermacht Air Force, only in vain, well, now we are waiting for Amer’s birds at the dill
  18. Prjanik
    Prjanik 8 January 2023 14: 00
    +1

    Dill is already dispersing that this is our Su-25 fool Although it is perfectly clear that this is a MiG-29 and the inscription Ukraine. They can't even take a photo for a fake
    1. novel66
      novel66 8 January 2023 14: 32
      +2
      And where are the fragments of harm?
      Ttttttttttt
      Ttttttttt
      1. Prjanik
        Prjanik 8 January 2023 14: 48
        -1
        Well, if dill also took fragments of harms into the frame, then I would definitely decide that our scouts took a picture)
    2. The fog
      The fog 8 January 2023 14: 46
      +1
      Where is the inscription Ukraine??? Maybe I didn't see it?
      1. Prjanik
        Prjanik 8 January 2023 15: 08
        -2
        Under the lamp. In fact, it is not Ukraine that is written there, but the Ukrainian falcons, the board of the aerobatic team.
    3. orionvitt
      orionvitt 8 January 2023 22: 38
      0
      Quote: Prjanik
      They can't even take a photo for a fake

      I see the slag heap, nothing else.
  19. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 8 January 2023 14: 02
    +2
    State Duma deputy announced! Subtracted somewhere in the telegram and quickly "reported". PR and nothing more.
  20. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 8 January 2023 14: 05
    0
    Over the past few days, Su 24s, Su 25s and this MiG 29 have gone down. There is certified visual evidence of 67 Ukrainian aircraft destroyed. Naturally, there are others, destroyed without the ability to photograph them. Therefore, Ukrainian aviation is practically destroyed. The destruction of the Ukrainian energy system and the destruction of Ukrainian aviation are the biggest achievements of the Russian army so far.
    1. Mikhail Ivanov
      Mikhail Ivanov 9 January 2023 04: 31
      +1
      The achievement of the Russian army is that a very serious part of the land (originally our Russian land) has come under our control! Although, this is not all how it will end ...
  21. Nexcom
    Nexcom 8 January 2023 14: 33
    +2
    Glory to the Ukrainian anti-aircraft gunners for their help in recycling! good
  22. Iris
    Iris 8 January 2023 14: 46
    -1
    OBTF - what is it? If the Ukrainian "Wasp" operates in the Russian Republic - how is that? Will they receive the payment established by the order for shooting down a fighter? And why is there something else flying, bombing and striking, if three times as many Litaks and other Pepelats that were in all of Eastern Europe have already been destroyed?
  23. Alex242
    Alex242 8 January 2023 14: 51
    0
    Of course, the fighter was shot down by Ukrainian air defense forces not on purpose, but by mistake. According to the deputy, who is in the NVO zone as part of the Kaskad operational-combat tactical formation (OBTF), anti-aircraft gunners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine independently “dealt with” the aircraft,

    people know how to fight...
  24. Andron78
    Andron78 8 January 2023 20: 04
    0
    Minus the MIG-29 is good, but the OSA with a range of + -10 km in the zone of combat contact is bad. If the OSU were also attached to the MIG, then there would be a complete set, and this is a clear flaw.
  25. orionvitt
    orionvitt 8 January 2023 22: 35
    0
    Scattered next to him are supposedly fragments of an American-made HARM anti-radar missile that he had on board.
    This is a joke?
  26. ISKANDER_61
    ISKANDER_61 9 January 2023 03: 09
    0
    A deputy like himself took part in this case or as an intermediary. Just for publicity. Lazy people don't know what to do.
  27. Mikhail Ivanov
    Mikhail Ivanov 9 January 2023 04: 28
    0
    In such a war, this is a problem, ours sometimes do this too ...