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US authorities ban Israeli pilots with dual citizenship from flying F-35 fighter jets

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US authorities ban Israeli pilots with dual citizenship from flying F-35 fighter jets

Israeli military pilots who, in addition to Israeli citizenship, have third-country passports, will no longer be able to perform the functions of piloting the latest F-35 fighters. This decision was made by the US Department of Defense in order to protect information and technology.


It should be noted that in Israel a fairly large number of citizens of the country have a second citizenship, as a rule - the so-called "countries of origin". Among them may even be Russia, which the United States today regards as an adversary. The US military has doubts about the "reliability" of such Israeli servicemen, and therefore decided to play it safe with issues of protecting information security.

Interestingly, the American military department also drew attention to the fact that many officers of the Israeli army, including the military Aviation, own cars made in China. Pentagon officials fear that Chinese vehicles with advanced multimedia systems could tag sensitive information on IDF officers' cell phones.

The Israeli Air Force, according to the American press, has already agreed with the Pentagon's decision and refused to assign pilots with dual citizenship to F-35 Adir aircraft. Recall that the F-35 Adir fighters have long been in service with the Israeli Air Force. The Israel Defense Forces Air Force currently has 50 of these aircraft, and plans to purchase 25 more fighters in the future.

It is noteworthy that the United States, having sold fighters to Israel, retains the ability to dictate to a sovereign state the conditions under which these aircraft will be used. After all, in the end, it is Israel, not the United States, that should determine which officers will be able to fly its Air Force fighters and which will not.
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  1. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 7 January 2023 10: 59
    +10
    Directed against Russian Israelis
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 7 January 2023 11: 03
      +8

      Krasnodar
      Today, 10: 59
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      Directed against Russian Israelis
      So not all Jews are Jews?
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 January 2023 11: 07
        +7
        Quote: aszzz888
        So not all Jews are Jews?

        Jews here? Americans are afraid of a leak. It is noteworthy that in 2008 they did not consider Russia a military force at all, allowing the Israelis to sell to it what was forbidden to the Chinese.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 7 January 2023 11: 12
          +2

          Krasnodar
          Today, 11: 07
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          Quote: aszzz888
          So not all Jews are Jews?

          Jews here? ...
          And what, weren't they piloted by Jews? it’s just that the merikatos are true)) to themselves and divide EVEN THEIR allies into people of several varieties. minus is not mine.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 January 2023 11: 16
            +7
            Quote: aszzz888
            And what, weren't they piloted by Jews? just merikatos are true)) to themselves and divide EVEN THEIR allies into people of several varieties

            The Americans do not and never had any allies. Always yubyli interests)).
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 7 January 2023 11: 23
              -2

              Krasnodar
              Today, 11: 16
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              Quote: aszzz888
              And what, weren't they piloted by Jews? just merikatos are true)) to themselves and divide EVEN THEIR allies into people of several varieties

              The Americans do not and never had any allies. Always yubyli interests)).
              And here I do not agree. The Merikatos OFFICIALLY, in the documents, name their allies, including Israel.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 January 2023 11: 25
                +7
                Quote: aszzz888
                The Merikatos OFFICIALLY, in the documents, name their allies, including Israel.

                are called laughing
                1. aszzz888
                  aszzz888 7 January 2023 11: 32
                  0

                  Krasnodar
                  Today, 11: 25
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                  +1
                  Quote: aszzz888
                  The Merikatos OFFICIALLY, in the documents, name their allies, including Israel.

                  Called laughing
                  "warrior" should be said. And then he tears himself without regret)) laughing for merikatos drowns everything!
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 7 January 2023 12: 05
                    +4
                    Quote: aszzz888
                    for merikatos drowns everything!

                    It doesn’t drown, it’s just that the site has a tendency to belittle the quality of their weapons, etc. In fact, even the antediluvian Hymers proved to be quite effective, and they are run by Ukrainians - residents of the most impoverished and one of the most illiterate countries in terms of English in Europe. So Vovka writes that the ameroa weapons are normal, and we must take them seriously.
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 7 January 2023 14: 06
                      +5
                      The news is fun.
                      Another demonstration of the "Hegemon's" dictatorship.
                      Well, a little abrasive to lubricate Israel-US relations. This, of course, will not quarrel them, but water wears away a stone.

                      But the very idea that people with multiple citizenships should not have the same rights as people with one citizenship is a VERY correct idea.
                      It would be necessary to legislate in Russia that people who, in addition to Russian, have any other citizenship, should not be allowed to lead positions and strategic secrets.
                      Well, and (this, of course, is a fantasy, but is it possible to dream at least on Christmas?) not to allow those who have accounts in foreign banks to become deputy.
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 January 2023 14: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        people who have any other citizenship other than Russian should not be allowed to lead positions and strategic secrets.

                        This is how it is in state-owned companies.
                      2. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 7 January 2023 20: 56
                        +3
                        To vskidku:
                        Grigory Anikeev (ER) - member of the State Duma Committee on the development of civil society, issues of public and religious associations - a citizen of Spain
                        Leonid Simanovsky (ER) - Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes - Israeli citizen
                        Mikhail Shchapov (KPRF) - Member of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes - Residence permit in Spain
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 7 January 2023 22: 06
                        -3
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        To vskidku:
                        Grigory Anikeev (ER) - member of the State Duma Committee on the development of civil society, issues of public and religious associations - a citizen of Spain
                        Leonid Simanovsky (ER) - Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes - Israeli citizen
                        Mikhail Shchapov (KPRF) - Member of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes - Residence permit in Spain

                        This means that they are not members of the State Duma, and a citizen of Israel cannot be the deputy chairman of the committee of the State Duma.
        2. kot423
          kot423 7 January 2023 11: 14
          +2
          Quote: Krasnodar
          allowing the Israelis

          So is Israel a free country, or caved in under the mattresses, like the rest of Nata - a mongrel?
          1. Grigory Remarque
            Grigory Remarque 7 January 2023 12: 10
            +2
            How free! Look at their balconies on Yem atzmaut, Independence Day. There are Israeli flags and mattresses hanging in the ratio of 60:40.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 13: 10
              +1
              Quote: Grigory Remarque
              How free!

              Can you name what sanctions were imposed by Israel together with the United States and Europe.
              1. kot423
                kot423 18 January 2023 11: 29
                0
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                Can you name what sanctions were imposed by Israel together with the United States and Europe.

                Do not confuse warm with soft. In this topic, the conversation is that Israel put mattresses in cancer, deciding for a "sovereign" country when and who will fly on penguins. Your comment is pulling an owl on a globe, from an inability to answer on the merits.
        3. Myths
          Myths 7 January 2023 12: 02
          +2
          For that, you can immediately see who had a snout in fluff up to their ears:

          Pentagon officials fear that Chinese vehicles with advanced multimedia systems could tag sensitive information on IDF officers' cell phones.

          Yes, and you might think that even with one Israeli citizenship, infa will not merge where necessary)
          Now, if one is stolen for spare parts, there will be a squeal. What do you think there and from this protection is just remotely cut down a bird. And such an Air Force is a "carnation" in the country's sovereignty)
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    2. Luka Nord
      Luka Nord 7 January 2023 11: 03
      +2
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Directed against Russian Israelis

      Galkin was very upset with Medinsky and Sobchak .. wassat
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 January 2023 11: 08
        +2
        Quote from Luka Nord
        Galkin was very upset with Medinsky ..

        But Danilov and Budanov will be delighted, they will bring good news to Gromov yes
        1. Luka Nord
          Luka Nord 7 January 2023 11: 38
          +1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Quote from Luka Nord
          Galkin was very upset with Medinsky ..

          But Danilov and Budanov will be delighted, they will bring good news to Gromov yes

          And who are they? I know Budanov from Chechnya, and the rest
          I don’t always understand your Jewish logic and sarcasm))
          You are not Zhvanetsky or Galkin with Zelensky, are you?
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 January 2023 12: 12
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            Quote from Luka Nord
            I know Budanov from Chechnya,

            lol
            Budanoa
            Head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.
            Danilov is the head of the National Security Service of Ukraine.
            Gromov - Deputy Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
            You are Russian, but not one of them, no? ))
            1. Luka Nord
              Luka Nord 7 January 2023 14: 58
              +2
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Quote from Luka Nord
              I know Budanov from Chechnya,

              lol
              Budanoa
              Head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.
              Danilov is the head of the National Security Service of Ukraine.
              Gromov - Deputy Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
              You are Russian, but not one of them, no? ))

              Phew, Krasnodar made its way .. I wrote a comment twice and everyone blocked .. From 10 times I went to the site
              I will now write briefly. These Vlasovites are the descendants of those who came out on the orders of Khrushch .. We are not brothers!
              And the main thing is, when you are appointed moderator of Krasnodar .. you tell the men I will warn you?
              I remember there was one from Israel .. Cleaned up the whole site bully
              Men are already afraid to write about Israel in articles, if only laudatory Such deeds in the Urals
              Let me know if anything, when you become a moderator .. wink
              Glory to Israel .. Waiting for an answer !! lol
              Hello test!
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 January 2023 17: 29
                -2
                Quote from Luka Nord
                These Vlasovites are the descendants of those who came out on the orders of Khrushch .. We are not brothers!

                request
                Quote from Luka Nord
                And the main thing is, when you are appointed moderator of Krasnodar .. you tell the men I will warn you?

                Do I need this? laughing
                Quote from Luka Nord
                Glory to Israel .. Waiting for an answer!

                Golan is OUR! ))
                Quote from Luka Nord
                Hello test!

                He doesn't like shopkeepers, Vitaly ))
                Totally undeserved, but nonetheless sad
    3. Grigory Remarque
      Grigory Remarque 7 January 2023 12: 06
      +2
      About 15 years ago, I still heard from officers who served in the TsAL that those who have relatives in Russia will never be military pilots. Then the F-35 was not even there.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 7 January 2023 15: 35
        -1
        Quote: Grigory Remarque
        About 15 years ago, I still heard from officers who served in the TsAL that those who have relatives in Russia will never be military pilots.

        It was like that, I was not allowed to take flight courses for this reason, although I was in the top ten of the competition out of a couple of hundred applicants. As a result, they offered an alternative - a course for naval officers or special forces.
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 January 2023 16: 21
      -1
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Directed against Russian Israelis

      Israeli Air Force, according to the American presshave already agreed with the Pentagon's decision.
      We all know the value of such messages. It looks like another fried "sensation".
      There is not even a link to the original source, so this may well turn out to be another fantasy of journalists.
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 January 2023 11: 01
    +3
    Israeli Air Forceaccording to the American press, already agreed with the decision of the Pentagon and refused to assign pilots with dual citizenship to the F-35 Adir aircraft.
    Trying to disagree. laughing
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 7 January 2023 11: 06
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      Trying to disagree.

      They are free and proud! winked
    2. Luka Nord
      Luka Nord 7 January 2023 11: 21
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      Try to disagree

      So yes sheriff!!! Israel exists only thanks to the United States. They have the congress there completely under control
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 January 2023 11: 30
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        Quote from Luka Nord
        So yes sheriff!!! Israel exists only thanks to the USA

        Taking into account the fact that during the Six-Day War the Americans very actively helped the Jordanians, against whom Israel fought, and the embargo on the supply of offensive weapons to the Jews was lifted a year later, let me, hehe, disagree with you)).
        Israel exists due to the fact that during wars, non-resident citizens of military age return to their reservist units, and locals rush there without any requests. ))
        They are strange, the Israelis laughing
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 7 January 2023 11: 35
        +1

        Luka Nord (Z)
        Today, 11: 21
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        Quote: aszzz888
        Try to disagree

        So yes sheriff!!! Israel exists only thanks to the United States. They have the congress there completely under control
        At least nothing is done without the decision of the merikatos. Merry Christmas! hi
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 January 2023 12: 15
          -1
          Quote: aszzz888
          At least nothing is done without the decision of the merikatos.

          Nothing to do with American weapons or goods made with American money/technology. Otherwise, if necessary, they will use the lobby.
        2. Luka Nord
          Luka Nord 7 January 2023 15: 17
          +2
          Quote: aszzz888
          At least nothing is done without the decision of the merikatos. Merry Christmas!

          Everything is so Sheriff buddy!
          And you with the great Orthodox holiday ..! And the Jews, let them talk)))))
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 11: 41
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      Trying to disagree.

      The problem is different.
      To make the argument interesting, the author does not write the whole truth.
      Israelis with dual citizenship ת neither Russian ת nor with the EU were taken and are not taken into training groups for the control of Israeli Adir aircraft, citizens of the United States and the WB remain questionable.
  3. Luka Nord
    Luka Nord 7 January 2023 11: 01
    +7
    How about a triple? laughing There is all of Israel with a bunch of passports from different countries, this is already a national tradition .. wink
  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 January 2023 11: 01
    +2
    Americans went too far laughing
    F-35 in service with 12+ countries.
    It is no longer possible to trace who flies on them.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 January 2023 11: 10
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      F-35 in service with 12+ countries.

      The only one of these countries that has not joined the anti-Russian network of sanctions and does not supply weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is Israel. They decided to punish because Bibi came to power)).
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 7 January 2023 11: 14
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      voyaka uh (Alexey)
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      The Americans went too far laughing ...
      this is your personal opinion. And they ordered, and immediately followed - "Yes!"

      The Israeli Air Force, according to the American press, has already agreed with the Pentagon's decision and refused to assign pilots with dual citizenship to F-35 Adir aircraft.
      So, your opinion, they definitely will not ask.
    3. Luka Nord
      Luka Nord 7 January 2023 11: 26
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Americans went too far laughing
      F-35 in service with 12+ countries.
      It is no longer possible to trace who flies on them.

      Well, Israel developed the software for the fighter jet. So the face control is there !!
  5. PPD
    PPD 7 January 2023 11: 05
    +4
    Will the pilots stay there after that? lol
    And then you look at the squadron and there will be no one to scrape together.
    But who prevents a pilot with dual citizenship from being friends with a pilot without dual citizenship.
    And yes, there is technology...
    laughing
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 12: 52
      +1
      Quote: PPD
      Will the pilots stay there after that?

      Quote: PPD
      And yes, there is technology...

      So, for overall development.
      Israeli Air Force
      34 personnel, 000 reserve and 55 aircraft.
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 7 January 2023 11: 05
    +1
    Are there Israeli pilots with Iranian citizenship? And in general, there are Jews in Iran. There were in Afghanistan, that's for sure.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 January 2023 11: 23
      +5
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Are there Israeli pilots with Iranian citizenship?

      I don’t know about the pilots, but somehow I was a subcontractor of an Israeli security company, I took my friend, an Iranian Jewish repatriate, for a part-time job. Vidon is an Arab-Arab. ))
      Protected Mrs. event. The local security guard looked at him suspiciously, decided to find out what kind of bird he was. Comes up and asks:
      - Hey! What is your name?
      - Sefi (it is not clear whether a Jew or an Arab)
      - Where did you serve?
      - In the Air Force.
      - Very well. And on what base?
      - Near Tehran.
      At that moment, you should have seen the face of the security guard. ))
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 7 January 2023 11: 27
        +1
        Cool, I imagine that he said to himself, out of ear, Merry Christmas! hi
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 January 2023 12: 17
          +2
          Quote: tralflot1832
          I didn't say Merry Christmas!

          Happy holiday to you and all the Orthodox site! hi
          1. Luka Nord
            Luka Nord 7 January 2023 15: 42
            +4
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Quote: tralflot1832
            I didn't say Merry Christmas!

            Happy holiday to you and all the Orthodox site! hi

            Priyanto! hiThank you
    2. Luka Nord
      Luka Nord 7 January 2023 11: 29
      +3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Are there Israeli pilots with Iranian citizenship? And in general, there are Jews in Iran. There were in Afghanistan, that's for sure.

      Yes, they are everywhere, even in China))) They can quickly dissolve around the world and then immediately appear in a certain territory, for example, the Jewish Autonomous Region .. We have been waiting for them there for a long time))))
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 12: 56
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And in general, there are Jews in Iran

      Before the revolution there were about 100000 people, today there are about 8000 people.
  7. pariarg
    pariarg 7 January 2023 11: 05
    -3
    Soon they will chase these obscurantists from everywhere with pissing rags.
    Jews must live in Israel.
    All Jews.
    1. Luka Nord
      Luka Nord 7 January 2023 11: 17
      +2
      Quote: pariarg
      Soon they will chase these obscurantists from everywhere with pissing rags.
      Jews must live in Israel.
      All Jews.

      Why is this ..? Here in Russia, even Stalin created the Jewish Autonomous Region with three Jews .. We are still waiting for them! lol
      There are no Arabs there from the word at all, well, if only the Chinese .. So welcome to the F-35 fighters, especially the airfields are ready ..)))) Well, all the guys are to me for such jokes
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 7 January 2023 11: 33
        +5
        .We are still waiting for them!
        Mikhan, convert and go to Birobidzhan, raise agriculture laughing .
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 January 2023 12: 18
          0
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          Mikhan, convert and go to Birobidzhan, raise agriculture.

          Fuck agriculture there - China is nearby laughing
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 7 January 2023 12: 24
            +2
            Ginseng to grow - the first harvest in 50 years yes .
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 7 January 2023 12: 48
              0
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              Ginseng to grow - the first harvest in 50 years.

              lol
              For 2022, there are 21 unicorn companies in Israel (start-up, for 10 years capitalization of a billion dollars without an IPO, 75% belong to the founders). There, due to the Chinese, there would be twice as many such companies laughing
              Not to mention trade - the wipers used the GLS to go to work)).
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 7 January 2023 12: 54
                +1
                wipers used to go to work on the GLS
                Kondovy UAZ is our everything yes ! By the way, Finns-drinking companions spoke positively about him.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 7 January 2023 14: 30
                  -2
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  Kondovy UAZ is our everything!

                  Having brains and living next to the Chinese? )) That is unlikely
        2. Luka Nord
          Luka Nord 7 January 2023 15: 11
          +3
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          .We are still waiting for them!
          Mikhan, convert and go to Birobidzhan, raise agriculture laughing .

          Let them trade with China ...
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Fuck agriculture there - China is nearby

          There is a Jew from Krasnodar immediately understood me ..))))
          Send Jews to China in 10 years they are bankrupt And the Jewish JSC New Bankog !!! bully
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 January 2023 17: 34
            -2
            Quote from Luka Nord
            Send Jews to China, in 10 years they are bankrupt

            And why should they go bankrupt if this goose lays golden eggs? You are engaged in trade, but write such nonsense negative
            Quote from Luka Nord
            And the Jewish JSC New Bankog !!!

            Tell me more, new Kabul laughing
            Let's just say - for 20 years Singapore
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 13: 07
        -1
        Quote from Luka Nord

        There are no Arabs there from the word at all, well, if only the Chinese .. So welcome to the F-35 fighters, especially the airfields are ready ..)))) Well, all the guys are to me for such jokes

        What a joke it's ok
        In 1940 there were 60000 Jews
        Less than 1000 today
        So the F-35s will remain in Israel, on January 4 they received 6 more units. By the end of the year, 14 more will arrive and an order for 50 pieces will be closed. and extended the contract for another 25.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 14: 34
      -1
      Quote: pariarg
      All Jews.

      You are right, but not everyone understands this, I hope you and people like you will explain to them, intelligibly.
  8. PVV66
    PVV66 7 January 2023 11: 29
    +5
    As V.S. Vysotsky said - "After all, there is a quarter of our former people ..."
  9. ratoborets
    ratoborets 7 January 2023 11: 42
    +2
    It is noteworthy that the United States, having sold fighters to Israel, retains the ability to dictate to a sovereign state the conditions under which these aircraft will be used.

    Ours would have to learn to set conditions, and not sell without conditions, so that it would then be resold or transferred to our own enemies.
  10. Machete
    Machete 7 January 2023 11: 46
    +3
    Not all Jews are equally useful to the US. laughing
  11. Machete
    Machete 7 January 2023 11: 48
    +4
    Does one citizenship give a full guarantee against leaking information?
    Oh well...
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 January 2023 15: 47
      +1
      Quote: Machete
      Does one citizenship give a full guarantee against leaking information?
      Oh well...

      The United States is slowly but surely losing leverage over Israel, so they will hysteria.
      For example, Mordechai Vanunu, who leaked information about Israeli nuclear weapons, did not have any dual citizenship.
  12. Santa Fe
    Santa Fe 7 January 2023 11: 48
    +3
    in Israel, a fairly large number of citizens of the country have a second citizenship, as a rule - the so-called "countries of origin". Among them may even be Russia

    In principle, there cannot be Russian Jews among fighter pilots; no one will promote them to such prestigious positions.

    However, interviews with 153 military personnel from this social group showed that, as a rule, they also get low-status positions in the army. Most of the men served as cooks or drivers, and only a few ended up in combat units. None of them were promoted to officer positions.

    Timur, a repatriate from Moscow, was drafted into the Israeli army as a volunteer, and described his experience in a blog. “The difference in attitudes towards repatriates from Russia and, say, the United States or France is huge,” he says.

    Recalling his experience, Timur notes that repatriates from Western countries enjoy great privileges in the army. “To advance - if, of course, they are interested - the French and Americans are given more opportunities. It's easier for them to get into officer positions, it's easier to get security passes. Petty offenses, for which "Russians" were punished by a delay in leaving on Shabbat or a disciplinary court, repatriates from Europe and the USA could get away with it. We must also not forget that the main flow of donations for the needs of the IDF comes from Western countries - therefore, whoever pays, he dances.


    From a Russian newspaper in Israel. Basically, it was expected. People from the post-Soviet space are starving in search of a well-fed life. And the attitude towards them is appropriate

    Pilot F35 laughing
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 7 January 2023 11: 56
      +5
      Yeah, Jews do have varieties of Jewishness ... laughing From it cho - it means that our Jews are the most low-grade ones obtained according to the Israeli scale.

      Everywhere they strive to pinch Russia. Even in such matters - even the Sons of Israel are somehow different with us ....
      1. HAM
        HAM 7 January 2023 12: 11
        +2
        These are not our Jews, they are rootless .... and there is an appropriate attitude towards such
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 January 2023 12: 31
      0
      Quote: Santa Fe
      In principle, there cannot be Russian Jews among fighter pilots; no one will promote them to such prestigious positions.

      lol
      Yes, there was a Russian Jew in a less prestigious post of Minister of Defense, and a fighter pilot was a strict ban fellow
      Quote: Santa Fe
      However, interviews with 153 military personnel from this social group showed that, as a rule, they also get low-status positions in the army. Most of the men served as cooks or drivers, and only a few ended up in combat units. None of them were promoted to officer positions.

      what
      In my time (1997-2000), at least a quarter of the attack aircraft of the infantry brigades were Russian-speaking, now there are already a lot of special forces officers. ))
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Recalling his experience, Timur notes

      That he is a liar and a loser - in combat units it is interesting what you can do and how you do it, and not your religion, place of birth, skin color, etc. ))
      For comrades will die if you sucker. However, where Timur served is unclear.
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Immigrants from the post-Soviet space - starving people in search of a well-fed life

      So in 1995, when we, emigrants from the Union, thought it was more profitable - to buy a travel card or ride minibuses, repatriates from Russia were interested in where it was profitable to buy housing for the sake of investment laughing
      We worked in Russia, rested on the Cote d'Azur of France, invested in real estate in cash in Israel and did not lose yes
      Hungry, the search for a well-fed life laughing laughing
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 13: 35
      +1
      Quote: Santa Fe
      In principle, there cannot be Russian Jews among fighter pilots; no one will promote them to such prestigious positions.


      So they fly the F-35, they repatriated to Israel as children at a time when they had not yet heard of dual citizenship.
    4. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 January 2023 16: 09
      0
      Quote: Santa Fe
      they get low-status positions in the army

      Bullshit. 99% of the big aliyah have long served, today their children are already serving, who were born here and are 100% native Israelis, and almost none of them adopt dual citizenship of their parents, it is simply not interesting for them.

      Quote: Santa Fe
      Most of the men served as cooks or drivers, and only a few ended up in combat units.

      Under me, 20+ years ago, the combat units were overflowing with immigrants from the CIS, the drivers were mostly Ethiopians and Moroccans, and 80% of the cooks were Israeli Bukharian and Caucasian Jews.

      Quote: Santa Fe
      Timur, a repatriate from Moscow, was drafted into the Israeli army as a volunteer, and described his experience in a blog. “The difference in attitudes towards repatriates from Russia and, say, the United States or France is huge”

      According to one subjective case, to issue an objective judgment is the height of idiocy. The fact that one leftist person, due to his character, did not take root is his problem, not the system.

      Quote: Santa Fe
      that repatriates from Western countries enjoy great privileges in the army. For promotion - if, of course, they are interested - the French and Americans are given more opportunities.

      Rare nonsense, there are 2 orders of magnitude fewer repatriates from France and the USA than from the CIS countries, they are not eager to serve, and there are only a few of them in officer positions. In 20 years of service and reserve, I saw only ONE, and he grew up in Israel.

      Quote: Santa Fe
      It's easier for them to get into officer positions, it's easier to get security passes.

      Lie.

      Quote: Santa Fe
      Petty offenses, for which "Russians" were punished by a delay in leaving on Shabbat or a disciplinary court, repatriates from Europe and the USA could get away with it.

      Lie.

      Quote: Santa Fe
      Timur, a repatriate from Moscow

      It looks like a fake character, to submit a leftist order to denigrate the IDF in the eyes of foreign inhabitants. Anyone who served in the IDF can see that this is all nonsense and nonsense.
  13. alexey_444
    alexey_444 7 January 2023 12: 07
    -1
    There are no secrets about the current version of the aircraft for a long time, we have already removed all the information, from Italian to Japanese, but getting new developments is another matter. But combatant pilots are not put on new developments. We have a problem in reconnaissance, when Soviet Khokhlyad planes roam on the front end, and we are not able to shoot them down, but as they say, we are not magicians, We are still learning.
  14. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 7 January 2023 12: 22
    +3
    Quote: aszzz888
    So not all Jews are Jews?

    The question is true, but for a real Jew there is no Jewish question, for him there is only a Jewish answer. laughing
  15. Romanenko
    Romanenko 7 January 2023 12: 22
    +1
    In vain they are so, the Israelis are very sensitive to issues of national politics, they can be very offended, here, despite all their pragmatism, the question may arise - what is more important money, or Jewry?
    I wonder if there will be a development of this plot between the US and Israel?
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 15: 23
      -1
      Quote: Romanenko
      I wonder if there will be a development of this plot between the US and Israel?

      Of course, you can rest assured that 39 F-35Is will still be purchased.
      1. Sergey3
        Sergey3 7 January 2023 17: 26
        +4
        Of course, you can rest assured that 39 F-35Is will still be purchased.

        That's just the internal content, as a rule, does not correspond to the appearance, Israel likes to upgrade other people's weapons and put their own devices there.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 January 2023 16: 19
      0
      Quote: Romanenko
      I wonder if there will be a development of this plot between the US and Israel?

      It will not.
      Grandfather cans are not eternal, they have already experienced more than one such, there was a stoned Kennedy, and an infantile Clinton, and an anti-Semite Obama. Each with their own quirks. Israel prefers not to get involved in skirmishes with them, agrees, nods its head, and does what it sees fit.
      That the "Israeli Air Force, according to the American press, have already agreed with the decision of the Pentagon "this rumors from the same American press, no more.
  16. Sergey3
    Sergey3 7 January 2023 17: 23
    +4
    And rightly so, the betrayer will betray once and again.
  17. agoran
    agoran 7 January 2023 17: 50
    +2
    Interesting story.
    In one of the port bars of Marseilles, he played shesh-besh with a black man, during the game they started talking and he said that he was French. I was very surprised, the French are like Armenians or Georgians. He showed his passport, really like a Frenchman.
    I don’t know how true it is, but a Jewish friend said that there are black Jews.
    1. Romanenko
      Romanenko 7 January 2023 18: 28
      +3
      In different cities and countries I saw many Jewish cemeteries, but nowhere did I see a Jewish maternity hospital. So Jews are not born, Jews become.
      (Old Odessa joke)
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 7 January 2023 21: 00
      0
      Quote: agoran
      I don’t know how true it is, but a Jewish friend said that there are black Jews.

      Yes, there is a community of Negro Jews in Africa and in Demon.
  18. Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 7 January 2023 18: 31
    0
    The Americans are doing the right thing.
    I was ruefully denied work for the Australian Army twice when they found out about my second Russian citizenship.
  19. dfk-80
    dfk-80 8 January 2023 15: 13
    0
    Read between the lines:
    American machines know how to swipe and transmit information where necessary. Phones have long been known.