In 2022, the number of early dismissal reports in the Bundeswehr increased by five times

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In 2022, the number of early dismissal reports in the Bundeswehr increased by five times

It seems that the militaristic plans of German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to create the largest army in Europe will not come true. At least in the short term. The thing is that German citizens do not want to serve and, worse, are massively dismissed from the ranks of the Bundeswehr.

Several German publications at once report that in 2022 the number of early dismissal reports in the Bundeswehr has increased by almost five times. The Ministry for Family Affairs, the Elderly, Women and Youth of Germany reported that 951 such reports were filed last year, while in 2021 the number of those who left on their own initiative was 201 people.



The motives of the German military personnel who decided to voluntarily leave the army before the contract expires are interesting. Most explain their decision by saying that when they entered into a contract with the armed forces, they did not expect that a war would begin. We are talking about military operations on the territory of Ukraine. German warriors do not hide the fact that they are afraid of the escalation of the conflict, as a result of which Germany may become its direct participant, and then they will have to fight with Russia. What the Germans, by virtue of "genetic memory", do not want to do at all.

German media emphasize that in Germany, after the abolition of universal conscription in 2011, only citizens who already serve in the Bundeswehr are officially considered refuseniks. In other words, people who have chosen military service as a profession are leaving the army. Accordingly, there are much more Germans who do not intend to conclude contracts with the Bundeswehr.

And although in absolute terms the number of refuseniks is small, this trend is painful for the Bundeswehr. After all, the armed forces of Germany need qualified personnel, competing in the selection of specialists with business and other areas of public service. And the plans of the German leadership are not at all to reduce the army, but to increase the number of personnel from the current 183 thousand to 203 thousand people.

Against the backdrop of problems with the staffing of the army in Germany, they again started talking about the need to return compulsory conscription. According to opinion polls, almost half of the Germans are in favor of this.

Here is such an unexpected side effect arose from the Russian special operation. After all, mass refusals to serve in the army, just after the start of the military conflict in Ukraine, occur in other European countries that are members of NATO. Moreover, the arsenals of weapons are being emptied in favor of Ukraine. It remains only to once again accuse Putin of the fact that one of the goals of the North Atlantic Military District is to destroy the combat capability of the North Atlantic Alliance from within.
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  1. +7
    6 January 2023 14: 10
    Here is such an unexpected side effect arose from the Russian special operation.

    The domino effect is still in the beginning.
    1. +2
      6 January 2023 14: 44
      The pernicious influence of the West (states) "comes out" at the first danger, for pampered Europeans.
      1. +7
        6 January 2023 14: 50
        Cool, of course.
        But, as already mentioned, the number of refuseniks is not large, and there are plans to increase the army of the Bundeswehr.
        I think that there should be a unit in the NWO that purposefully hunts for NATO instructors. That's when, with the effectiveness of this unit, layoffs will fall as it should, and not as it is now.
        1. 0
          6 January 2023 16: 00
          Quote: Shurik70
          I think that there should be a unit in the NWO that purposefully hunts for NATO instructors.

          So they do not climb to the front line, and attacks on training centers have been carried out for a long time.
          1. +1
            7 January 2023 21: 06
            Quote: Dart2027
            strikes on training centers have been carried out for a long time.

            That rockets.
            And it would be necessary snipers. Or radio-controlled bombs. Not to hammer on the building (although it is also necessary to hammer on the building), but also on the instructors in that building, personally. And in the Russian media to publish the name of the liquidated.
  2. -2
    6 January 2023 14: 10
    Or maybe they quit for the sake of it, so that they could again walk through the Russian lands with their sleeves rolled up.
    1. -4
      6 January 2023 14: 32
      Quote: tralmaster
      Or maybe they quit for the sake of it, so that they could again walk through the Russian lands with their sleeves rolled up.

      it is possible that they will soon be in Ukraine
      1. +4
        6 January 2023 14: 52
        Quote from Aleks
        it is possible that they will soon be in Ukraine


        951 people quit during the year, this is not the force that can decide something in Ukraine.
        1. -4
          6 January 2023 15: 31
          Quote: Carat
          951 people quit during the year, this is not the force that can decide something in Ukraine.

          And who do you think will manage the leopards and air defense systems?
  3. +1
    6 January 2023 14: 10
    NATO still wants to hang a burden around its neck in the form of Sweden and Finland.
    If they are accepted, then most likely refuseniks will appear there and there will be a shortage of personnel.
    1. 0
      6 January 2023 14: 31
      Quote from Fizik13
      there will be a shortage of personnel.

      There will be no shortage. They will recruit contract soldiers from the countries of the former USSR: former Russians, Ukrainians
      1. 0
        6 January 2023 15: 29
        By the way, it could very well be. Already today, upon obtaining German citizenship, the Germans are allowed to leave Ukrainian. Well, like - brothers Ukrainians lol
        1. 0
          7 January 2023 00: 14
          Let me correct you, colleague.
          Regardless of the citizenship of any other country, the conditions for obtaining German citizenship are as follows:
          You must have lived in Germany for 8 years (or 7 years after successful completion of an integration course or 6 years with confirmation of special integration achievements, e.g. certificate or recognized higher education in Germany Full financial independence from the state, pure judicial or police "history".
          Regarding the Ukrainians and their obtaining a second, German citizenship, also not quite the way you write.
          Taking into account what I wrote above, in changing the law on dual citizenship, it is planned only this summer to change the law and allow the preservation of former citizenship. Attention, for citizens of ALL countries, Ukrainians are no exception.
      2. 0
        6 January 2023 16: 15
        Yeah. Like the eastern legions of Germany France Denmark and further down the list. Adolf has experience in the 40s
    2. +6
      6 January 2023 14: 57
      Quote from Fizik13
      most likely, refuseniks will appear there and there will be a shortage of personnel.


      I am generally surprised by people who go to serve on a contract in the army, but if there is a war, they flee from it. Those. They are ready to receive a salary in peacetime, but they are not ready to fight.
      1. 0
        6 January 2023 15: 28
        I am generally surprised by people who go to serve on a contract in the army, but if there is a war, they flee from it. Those. They are ready to receive a salary in peacetime, but they are not ready to fight.

        They followed the gesheft, you need to understand))))
      2. 0
        6 January 2023 16: 53
        Quote: Carat
        Those. They are ready to receive a salary in peacetime, but they are not ready to fight.

        Well, for the sake of objectivity, fighting for the interests of your country and for the interests of the United States are two different things. There, too, they are not fools and understand that it is not in the interests of Germany to fight with Russia.
  4. +10
    6 January 2023 14: 11
    The problems with staffing in the West began a long time ago, the fashion for serving their country has passed and even goodies and bonuses do not really help, young people have other priorities, someone is thinking about returning the draft, someone wants to leave at the expense of foreigners, but the problem is not solved yet.
  5. -7
    6 January 2023 14: 14
    They will slightly weaken the admission criteria for the female gender (or what gender they have there except for the male standard) and gain at least 250 thousand people.
    Now the trend in the West is that non-men are replacing heterosexuals. Judging by the American TV series they have in the police, and the police officers working on the "ground" are already almost half of the male. So the same fate awaits the army.
    1. +3
      6 January 2023 14: 17
      Expert hi, well, THE QUANTITY they are in THIS manner they can and will decide BUT there is a question about the quality of such a contingent.
      1. -3
        6 January 2023 14: 29
        Judging by the American series laughing the quality will only increase.
        1. +7
          6 January 2023 14: 36
          Do not smack nonsense, she still hurts. All restrictions on gender have long since been lifted, iii...? Where are your notorious 250 thousand? Gays, lesbians and other perverts are not very eager to join the army, they are more comfortable at home, and safer, the chances of getting a bullet in the ass instead of a penis are much less. And their ass is the most precious thing to them ... laughing
          1. +4
            6 January 2023 14: 42
            Just show off on the parade ground and in heels ... wassat
            1. +5
              6 January 2023 14: 51
              I also thought about heels. Instead of masculinely dealing with rapists, these fagots chose to show solidarity with the victims of violence by wearing women's shoes? Tfu three times, disgrace. And these types of us will win? Yep, cheers...
              1. +3
                6 January 2023 16: 12
                Beauty is a terrible force! wassat .............
          2. -3
            6 January 2023 15: 18
            Do not smack nonsense, she still hurts. All restrictions on gender have long since been lifted, ii...?

            You should have learned to read before throwing all sorts of nonsense at decent people.
            I wrote about the admission criteria. And this is not one parameter - gender.

            Gays, lesbians and other perverts are not very eager

            Once again, read carefully. Oh, women are so careless smile
            Not all women are gays, lesbians and other perverts. I also had in mind ordinary militant women who consider themselves no worse soldiers and officers than men.
            1. +1
              6 January 2023 15: 25
              Excuse me, but are you generally sane? Write that you didn’t mean sex as the only criterion and immediately write about "belligerent women" ...?!
              What century are you stuck in? I repeat for those who are on the armored train, ALL restrictions have LONG LONG been removed, on gender, on gender and on other crap, so what? Where is the influx? And this despite the fact that there are a lot of goodies, both under the contract and at its end.
              Learn the materiel before you teach others!
              PS Take an interest, in all the NATO army is full of women, half-women, half-men in all types of troops from infantry to tanks and from aviation to navy. Emnip one of the aircraft carriers of the FSA is commanded by a woman, though terrible as death, a cross between Quasimodo and Lisa from the highway.
              1. -4
                6 January 2023 15: 47
                I repeat for those who are on the armored train, ALL restrictions have LONG LONG been removed, on gender, on gender and on other crap, so what?

                Clear. Selection criteria is too complicated a phrase for some.
                1. +2
                  6 January 2023 15: 53
                  No need to pretend to be an intellectual, not being one. Don't be dumber than you.
                  And, please list those same criteria? Do not take it for work, show off your erudition ... wassat
            2. -1
              6 January 2023 15: 31
              I meant and ordinary militant womenwho consider themselves no worse soldiers and officers than men.

              What nonsense))))
              Over the past 5000 years, not a single tribe / people has survived where the warriors were exclusively women. Women's share is to give birth, not to fight. Don't put the cart before the horse.
              1. +3
                6 January 2023 15: 46
                Quote: lucul
                Over the past 5000 years, not a single tribe / people has survived where the warriors were exclusively women.

                Of course, it won’t make it difficult for you to list such peoples and tribes over the past 5000 years?
            3. +3
              6 January 2023 15: 33
              Do not judge strictly. Not everyone can be analnytik. There are a large number who do not understand what a difficult profession it is.
              1. +2
                6 January 2023 15: 45
                Well, yes, "not only everyone can look into the future, few can do it" ... laughing hi
    2. 0
      6 January 2023 14: 24
      They will slightly weaken the admission criteria for the female gender (or what gender they have there except for the male standard) and gain at least 250 thousand people.

      I wouldn't be surprised if it does. If you look at the European defense ministers, there are only women there. I don’t understand how to work in such a position without testosterone. The German has not become the same since the time of Aloisovich, so in case of a serious mess, most of the servicemen will write reports!
    3. +5
      6 January 2023 14: 57
      Judging by the American series...
      Judging by the American TV series, then 99 percent of the population live in their own cottages and all women are fashion models with big "eyes". just box office and lifestyle ads.
      1. -2
        6 January 2023 15: 22
        American TV shows are also propaganda. Like, that's the way it should be. Therefore, I am not surprised at how many women become defense ministers of NATO countries.
  6. -2
    6 January 2023 14: 19
    And what kind of "five hundredths" in the Russian army did Strelkov write many times, can you find out in more detail?
  7. +1
    6 January 2023 14: 31
    500th in all contract armies is a problem. But what to do? He served in the GSVG, a communications battalion for my demobilization, communication zero was so disgraced. And what about the ensigns, what are the commanders for? He himself deployed the station for the third time. The first time they taught the "old ones", the second time at divisional exercises and the third time the ensign.
  8. +4
    6 January 2023 14: 34
    500s are not only with us and this is just the beginning
    1. +2
      6 January 2023 15: 02
      Nobody wants to die for Ukraine. The Germans learned about the Poles on the campaign.
  9. +4
    6 January 2023 14: 38
    What the Germans, by virtue of "genetic memory", do not want to do at all.

    You can't fight genetics... smile
  10. +3
    6 January 2023 14: 44
    In 2022, the number of early dismissal reports in the Bundeswehr increased by five times
    The Germans hand over the palm of the "first army in Europe" to the Poles. recourse The Poles may not even bother with rearmament. request
  11. +2
    6 January 2023 14: 47
    How everything in the world is changing. Look, the Germans are such a warlike nation, they don’t want to join the army, they don’t want to fight. For that, the Poles are the opposite. And the call is twice as large as at the moment, all the Armed Forces have launched a movement - a weekend with the army. Crowds run to class. And most of all, the Poles go to / to Ukraine, several thousand are already fighting there. So all Polish artillery such as self-propelled guns Crab is serviced only by Poles. The special forces are almost at full strength fighting there.
    1. 0
      6 January 2023 15: 25
      So everything is obvious. The Poles are planning a big "gesheft" with the annexation of a piece of Ukraine. Here they are struggling. Abrams and Black Panthers, the Poles buy it against their sworn friends Banderlog, and not against Russia. Our generation will yet witness the "war of liberation" of Banderlogs against the Poles.
      And the Germans, what are the Germans? While in the auditorium with popcorn.
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  13. +2
    6 January 2023 14: 53
    That is, they do not want to serve, but half of the population supports compulsory conscription.
    Hmm ....
  14. +2
    6 January 2023 14: 56
    "... they did not expect that the war would begin" - It smacks of "lure" and delirium. For even before that, German soldiers fought as part of the ISAF forces in Afghanistan. They took part in the hostilities on the territory of the SAR. Yes, and in Mali, too, managed to visit.
    1. +1
      6 January 2023 15: 11
      The Russians did not kill them there, almost tourism.
    2. 0
      6 January 2023 17: 30
      Quote from besikexe
      For even before that, German soldiers fought as part of the ISAF forces in Afghanistan. They took part in the hostilities on the territory of the SAR. Yes, and in Mali, too, managed to visit.
      But there were also many mercenaries who, having managed to escape from Ukraine, said that they did not expect this at all and all their experience is worth nothing in a war with a real army.
  15. -1
    6 January 2023 15: 07
    Another stupid agitation of putriot presstitutes.
  16. 0
    6 January 2023 15: 10
    800 people pennies on one side.
    On the other hand, did they become mercenaries?
  17. +1
    6 January 2023 15: 20
    I want to make it clear. ..
    Breaking a contract for a German is a glaring case.
    Due to the fact that all the "buns" are just assumed at the end of the contract. For example, free education at the university.
    For the sake of this, in fact, they go to BW
    With all due respect to the author of the article, to please our readers with "stretching the problems of BW onto the globe", it may be pleasant to read, but it will only take you away from understanding the problems there.
    Not particularly reluctant to go , that is Yes.
    BW today is such a closed sports and technical club. Who lives a quiet, well-fed life, very conditionally correlated with the defense (it is not clear from whom) of Germany.
    Any military unit has its "skeletons in the closet" and is very tense from the need to accept someone else into its ranks.
    The second point is very little technology. More precisely, VERY LITTLE! Accordingly, it travels and flies not often.
    Such a good peacetime army.
    For the most violent, until recently there was an opportunity to realize themselves in Afghanistan. But there was no queue.
    Summing up my comment - there is a problem of NOT renewing contracts. Which may be a shame for personnel officers, but it is completely legal.
    And there is a problem - there is not enough technology.
    As for the call No. sounds funny. Crowds of people fled from the army in Russia, Ukrainians are breaking through the cordons
    https://topwar.ru/206949-pomoch-otpustit.html
    and the Germans, with what fright, are they going to serve?
    1. 0
      6 January 2023 16: 38
      For example, free education at the university.
      In Germany it is 100% free for EVERYONE (who is legal in the country).
      1. 0
        6 January 2023 17: 37
        at school yes. nobody argues
        But NOT in universities - lol
        1. 0
          7 January 2023 14: 41
          NOT at universities
          Including at universities.
    2. +1
      6 January 2023 23: 53
      Regarding "break the contract":
      A member of the armed forces (in Germany) may apply for early release under section 55(3) of the Soldiers' Act (Soldatengesetz) if the continuation of service would present a special "difficult case" for him for personal, in particular domestic, professional or economic reasons.
  18. 0
    6 January 2023 15: 51
    Most explain their decision by saying that when they entered into a contract with the armed forces, they did not expect that a war would begin.

    Feel free to go to battle.
    And we are behind you.
    And as one die.
    Oh, Hans, let's get out of here.
    We didn't get there.
  19. +1
    6 January 2023 15: 54
    German warriors do not hide the fact that they are afraid of the escalation of the conflict, as a result of which Germany may become its direct participant, and then they will have to fight with Russia. What the Germans, by virtue of "genetic memory", do not want to do at all.
    . Come on, they will recruit new ones from the newly arrived ones. Although the contingent is still the same, muddy, and the mosques in the garrison will have to be built, the mullah to be taken into service ... the prospect is so-so!
  20. +3
    6 January 2023 16: 15
    950 out of 183 thousand quit ... I see no reason for joy, since the remaining 182 thousand apparently are not afraid and the army will increase by another 20 thousand and not a timid dozen. In general, such news about evaders and those who, like, run away, always cause a smile, because everything shows the war who and what, you should not throw your hats ahead of time, it’s not up to evaluating the enemy is a big mistake
  21. -1
    6 January 2023 17: 48
    With all due respect ...
    Recently, VO instead of the most interesting analytical material. Historical and technical publications - filled with rotten pseudo-news. Which telegrams and yellow Internet publications are inundated with.
    Here is the same on Country UA
    https://strana.today/news/420951-v-bundesvere-iz-za-vojny-v-ukraine-rastet-chislo-voennykh-napisavshikh-raport-ob-uvolnenii.html
    According to my observations, the Germans were very successful in disinformation.
    Merkel's speech had a completely different true meaning, not noticed by many.
    Stories about the "economic difficulties" of Europe and other tales.
    In general, any news / information issued by the media of a potential enemy should be considered as potential disinformation.
    As for the "problems" of BW with acquisition - they are solved very easily.
    Slightly more unemployment in civilian life and slightly higher wages in the army.
  22. 0
    6 January 2023 19: 25
    The Germans have a slave nature already at the genetic level,
    - several generations in the occupation, repentance has grown.
  23. 0
    6 January 2023 21: 02
    "And Russians eat ice cream in winter!"
    Bugaga, the famous picture with 2 Fritz in a trench)
  24. 0
    7 January 2023 14: 56
    In the armed forces of the PRC, they say, there are also big problems: the number of deserters has doubled. Now there are four of them! The General Staff of the PLA can not cope!

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