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Turkey finally breaks off military partnership with Israel

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Turkey finally breaks off military partnership with Israel

The Ministry of Defense of Turkey intends to finally abandon the Israeli UAVs. Experts do not exclude that this step is politically motivated.

According to the Defense News, in the near future, the Turkish Defense Ministry plans to return to the Israeli side three Aerostar unmanned aircraft, which, according to the Turkish military, "have proven poorly in operations against the Kurdish Workers Party (PKK).

What exactly are the claims, not specified. It is emphasized only that the Turks had not previously sent any complaints to the leadership of the Israeli company Aeronautics Defense Systems, which produces drones.

Aerostar UAVs worth 10 million dollars were delivered to Turkey on a long-term rental basis in 2007, in compensation for the delay in the previously ordered Heron and Harpy-2 UAVs worth 185 million.

The Defense News publication explains that the customer received Harpy-2 in 2008 a year late. The six Heron units were shipped in March to 2010. Subsequently, the contract for Heron was frozen.

Experts do not exclude that the return of Aerostar to Israel may be the planned completion of the lease of drones. Moreover, at present Turkey is actively developing its own UAVs. In particular, based on the Anka reconnaissance UAV, created by the Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) company, it was planned to make a drone drone. In total, the Ministry of Defense of Turkey intended to acquire Anka 10 reconnaissance UAVs, which were scheduled for testing in June 2012.
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  1. Vadivak
    Vadivak 8 November 2012 11: 37
    +8
    Scared a hedgehog with a bare ass
    1. Cesar_Xnumx
      Cesar_Xnumx 8 November 2012 13: 17
      +3
      The ass is far from naked) This very ass can put half of the Middle East into a cancer pose) I think this is in Russia's hands.
      1. bask
        bask 8 November 2012 13: 52
        +6
        Well, chudninko !!!!! This is news # 1 for Russia today for Russia .... This is Israel for supporting Turkey in aggression against Syria. Further more. Israel’s gentlemen will have to grow up with the Golan. There are plenty of weapons and Turks, they don’t need Israel.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 8 November 2012 14: 43
          -3
          Quote: bask
          Israel’s gentlemen will have to grow with the Golan

          Storyteller =)
        2. igor67
          igor67 8 November 2012 14: 48
          0
          bask,
          And how interesting is it from a technical or military side, you imagine it, sitting at a computer, you can fight soldier
        3. mikula
          mikula 8 November 2012 18: 38
          -2
          bask - This is Israel for supporting Turkey in aggression against Syria.


          Bask - answer and you're lying out of ignorance or on purpose. Well, or provide support information.
        4. mikula
          mikula 8 November 2012 22: 34
          -5
          bask (2) - With the Golan, the gentlemen of Israel will have to grow.

          In order for us to part with the Golan, Russia must create a legal precedent, namely, to part with East Prussia. Otherwise, are we worse than you?
          1. Shooter308ful
            Shooter308ful 8 November 2012 23: 09
            +4
            Why don’t you confuse a Jew? The Russians did not attack the Germans first. We were not the first to start that war as compensation for the destruction and loss of which the USSR took these lands from the Germans. And not one USSR incidentally took part of the land from the Germans and Japanese as a winner.
            The military might of the USSR destroyed the war machine of Germany. And the allies of the USSR - the USA and England, and later, France, defeated by Hitler - clinging to the USSR, the winner skillfully seized the entire gold reserve of Germany, which is in these "victorious" countries to this day. That is, Germany is still occupied by the United States and Britain. It's better what precedent the Jew with the German flag is talking about in the first place. Or is it hard to bite your hand when the other hand is holding your balls?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 9 November 2012 13: 15
              -2
              Well, as if Israel had not attacked Syria in due time, heartfelt wink
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 8 November 2012 14: 54
        +2
        Quote: Cesar_001
        This ass can put half of the Middle East in a cancer pose


        Jura, what about the tourists? If she fights with someone, then she will put herself on cancer, $ 14 billion in tourism revenue and $ 10 billion in military expenses, that's the kind of math
        1. orfo
          orfo 8 November 2012 15: 32
          +1
          the Islamists have a short memory of where their countries earned money, Egypt after the revolution became somehow radical, and suddenly a ghoul asks to abduct tourists, and called for the sphinx to be demolished. Forgetting that he makes a profit. Although about the Western values ​​that tourists bring with them, you can agree, but not to kill and not to buy ransoms.
        2. Cesar_Xnumx
          Cesar_Xnumx 8 November 2012 16: 16
          0
          Then along the way Perdogan forgot about tourism.
  2. igor67
    igor67 8 November 2012 11: 43
    +2
    Interestingly, why did the Turkish government not abandon Israeli tanks? They waited when they received the last batch,
    1. domokl
      domokl 8 November 2012 11: 52
      +5
      laughing The tank is bigger ... But the drones have studied and will now stamp their same ... Actions ala China ...
      1. alatau_09
        alatau_09 8 November 2012 12: 02
        +9
        Turkey is cooperating with Germany on tanks, by the way ... it has created its own "Altai" on the basis of "leopards" ...
        Why buy what you can do yourself? Russia, too, has taken this path ...
        I bought BP samples from the same Israel, took a closer look and created my own ... The former, as a rule, are a little weak, but then ...

        Rupture of relations between Turkey and Israel in the hands of Russia ..., think ...
        and especially Syria ...

        There is more politics than economics ...
        1. donchepano
          donchepano 8 November 2012 13: 05
          0
          Is this, with a distant claim to the Russian lands? (Edge)
          1. alatau_09
            alatau_09 8 November 2012 13: 21
            0
            tribute to origin
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 8 November 2012 12: 04
        +4
        Quote: domokl
        And drones have studied and will now stamp their same ..

        We have already been the same laughing stamping, only one thing turns out, well, something like this
        1. Denzel13
          Denzel13 8 November 2012 12: 34
          +8
          Well yes, cheap and very cheerful! And what, it will be more expensive to shoot him down - in the literal sense.
        2. Big lexey
          Big lexey 8 November 2012 13: 31
          +4
          Why not a drone? A completely asymmetric answer - how many ways of counteraction will be more expensive than this craft of folk art?
        3. Simon
          Simon 8 November 2012 14: 04
          +1
          And, that is a normal technique, exactly a bird flies in the sky. But the main thing is that the guys in the circles do not stamp this technique, and the main thing is no worse than the Izrai ones. Pick up the camcorder and the transmitter, and there will be no price for it. wassat
        4. King
          King 8 November 2012 15: 52
          0
          Not a drone but a god of war! But seriously, sooner or later, and in our country there will be real technology since the MIG and Sukhoi took up this.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 8 November 2012 14: 40
      +4
      Quote: igor67
      Interestingly, why did the Turkish government not abandon Israeli tanks? They waited when they received the last batch,


      Tanks are not afraid of dirt .. and dust, unlike drones. Israeli drones probably as they say - not for average minds
      1. igor67
        igor67 8 November 2012 14: 45
        0
        Ascetic,
        Just two years ago there was an article about what Turkish engineers want to transcode. And drones and planes, you yourself understand that in case God forbid Turkey and Zrail, they simply will not start
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 8 November 2012 14: 56
          +3
          Quote: igor67
          And drones and planes, you yourself understand that in case God forbid Turkey and Zrail, they simply will not start


          They don’t even have such a universal tool as a sledgehammer with a mother like ours in case of emergency laughing So it’s not painful to reprogram them.
  3. PISTOL
    PISTOL 8 November 2012 11: 45
    +3
    It would be better if she refused to join the EU and NATO!
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 8 November 2012 11: 52
      +1
      If this happened immediately stalibs enemies of democracy! bully
      1. Andrey_K
        Andrey_K 8 November 2012 14: 45
        +3
        And the Kurds, on the contrary, are fighters for democracy and oppressed peoples.
  4. Hammer
    Hammer 8 November 2012 11: 46
    +9
    Well, if the Turks are not friendly to us, it would be better if they were unfriendly to us without friendship with Israel. We will be so calmer. wink
    In general, high quarreling - divorce, abortion and maiden name. lol
    1. Civil
      Civil 8 November 2012 11: 57
      +4
      Hammer,


      exactly so, the less friends are against us the better!
  5. Норд
    Норд 8 November 2012 11: 48
    +6
    And then the Ottomans suffered ...
    The Turks managed to spoil relations in the region with almost all countries except Azerbaijan. Well, and the flag in their hands. But explanations like "performed poorly in operations against militants of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)" are simply laughable. These UAVs are good against Palestinian and Lebanese militants, but not here. This is not even politics, but outright nonsense.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 8 November 2012 12: 56
      +2
      Quote: Nord
      The Turks managed to spoil relations in the region with almost all countries except Azerbaijan.

      And Georgia)
    2. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 8 November 2012 14: 04
      0
      Quote: Nord
      But explanations like "performed poorly in operations against militants of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)" are simply laughable. These UAVs are good against Palestinian and Lebanese militants, but not here. This is not even politics, but outright nonsense.

      Why not? Kurds are hiding in the mountains, and Palestinians in the desert and cities. the conditions are different and the mountains do not fit these UAVs - maybe the power doesn’t reach the heights
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 8 November 2012 14: 49
        -2
        Quote: wasjasibirjac
        why not? Kurds are hiding in the mountains, and Palestinians in the desert and cities. the conditions are different and the mountains do not fit these UAVs - maybe the power doesn’t reach the heights

        Why not mountains in Lebanon?
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 9 November 2012 13: 16
        -2
        Why not mountains in Lebanon, Afghanistan, Latin America, etc.? What are the conditions of the north in the same Canada? Etc. etc.
    3. Ascetic
      Ascetic 8 November 2012 14: 48
      +11
      Quote: Nord
      Turks managed to spoil relations in the region with almost all countries except Azerbaijan


      Anecdote to the topic

      At a disco in Germany, a Russian is dancing in a T-shirt with the inscription: "The Turks have three problems."
      A Turk immediately comes up to him and asks: “Why do you want to run over?”
      Russian, calmly: - This is your first problemma. Aggressiveness. You are always trying to create problems from scratch ...
      When the disco ends, a group of Turks is already waiting for the Russian.
      “Now you will answer for your words,” they say.
      - This is your second problem. You cannot solve your problems on your own and immediately collect your "friends" for any reason.
      - How dare you talk to us like that!?! - Turks raised knives ...
      “This is your third problem,” the Russian continues. - You always come to a shootout with knives.
      1. igor67
        igor67 8 November 2012 14: 53
        +2
        Ascetic,
        Yes, a good old joke !! but one more truth may not be in the subject: the Catalycosis of all Armenians dies, and makes the following speech: take care of my flock Jews! The people began to be indignant: it’s the Jews, well ... yeah, to which he replied: when all the Jews are destroyed they will take on us, the Armenians. And if on the topic after Turkey’s many centuries of dominance over the Arabs, they simply hate them, I mean Arabs
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 8 November 2012 15: 07
          +3
          Quote: igor67
          when all the Jews are exterminated, they will take on us, the Armenians.


          Indeed, the forefather Noah from Mount Ararat is Armenian. Even Armenian cognac is NOA brand. They also say that the Jewish king David is also Armenian, so the Jews are not quoted here at all. wassat

          DAVID (BIBLE) and DAVID (SASUN)

          The Great Soviet Encyclopedia notes that the Armenian heroic epos “Sasunci David” is based on the struggle in the XNUMXth century. Sasun residents against Arab rule.
          1. M. Khorenatsi in his history brings to us the information of the ancients that the descendants of the two sons of Shem were adjacent to the ancestors of Hayk. These Simovtsy joined Ike and participated in the battle against Bel.
          2. Hyksos - hill tribes of ancient Armenians. In the XVIII century. BC. Egypt and Palestine were conquered by the Hyksos.
          3. The appearance of the ancient Jews in Egypt is associated with the conquest of this country by the Hyksos (1750-1580 BC).
          4. After the expulsion of the Hyksos from Egypt, as a result of the increasing oppression of the ancient Jews (allies of the Hyksos), the exodus of the Jews begins, the unification of 12 tribes and their conquest of ancient Canaan (Palestine).
          So you are talking in vain about Palestine as its historical land, It turns out originally belonged to the ancient Armenians tongue
          My webpage

          1. igor67
            igor67 8 November 2012 15: 23
            0
            Ascetic,
            The British !! According to history, if you look, they have done more harm with their politics, the Jews are just resting, modern conflicts can be said: the hand of England, not even the states. Arab-Israeli, Pakistan-Indian, China, South Africa, and England had a fat hand in world wars
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 8 November 2012 15: 26
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            Indeed, the forefather Noah from Mount Ararat is Armenian.


            Stas nailed him there, and that he could not drink a secret,
            Genesis Chapter 9 21. And he drank the wine, and was drunk, and lay naked in his tent.

            and who does not drink? Today you don’t drink with us, but tomorrow you will change the homeland!
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 8 November 2012 15: 43
              +6
              Quote: Vadivak
              Stas nailed him there, and that he could not drink a secret,
              Genesis Chapter 9 21. And he drank the wine, and was drunk, and lay naked in his tent.


              He got drunk like a Jew, woke up from a hangover aground looking Armenian laughing
              1. igor67
                igor67 8 November 2012 15: 47
                +1
                Ascetic,
                An old Jew is dying. There were only minutes to live, and suddenly he smelled from the kitchen. He calls his granddaughter and says:
                - Moysha, go to the kitchen and look, I think Baba Tsilya is cooking stuffed fish.
                It takes some time, the granddaughter returns and says:
                - Yes, you're right, but grandma said it was for later ....

                laughing
          3. donchepano
            donchepano 8 November 2012 16: 32
            0
            if so listen then everything around came from and everything belongs to the army ... us? trousers do not crack?
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 8 November 2012 19: 47
              +1
              Quote: donchepano
              if so listen then everything around came from and everything belongs to the army ... us? trousers do not crack?

              An excerpt from the interview of the leader of the "Georgian Dream" coalition Bidzina Ivanishvili to "The New Times" appeared in the media, in which he allegedly expressed bewilderment with the behavior of the Armenians. According to press releases, Ivanishvili said the following:
              "Here, for example, Armenians live here. And I am amazed: their homeland is nearby, but they live here. For you, probably, there is no such question. But for me it is not clear. I lived in France, a year in America, and I began to dream about my village, my land ... "

              I decided to make excuses, it turned out even worse
              I am delighted with the special gift of Armenians and Jews that they can be citizens of the world, they are successful everywhere, where they live, and have a strong diaspora. We, Georgians, are such an amazing people that, unfortunately, we could not settle down anywhere and create a strong diaspora. This was the main context of my response. Immediately I want to note once again that Georgia is a multinational country and is the homeland for all the peoples living here "

              B. Ivanishvili
              My webpage

              Source Regnum - master of provocations

              Georgia was outraged
              My webpage.
              Ivanishvili makes excuses: I admire the special gift of Armenians and Jews
              My webpage

              I gave you a very recent example of information sabotage and its consequences. The same thing was recently regarding Nazarbayev.
              My top post about Armenians is just an irony and I don’t have to take everything at face value. Divide and conquer politics in matters of interethnic relations has not been canceled.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 8 November 2012 15: 07
          +5
          Quote: igor67
          when all the Jews are exterminated, they will take on us, the Armenians.


          Exactly - In World War I, the Arabs bought themselves on the promise of the British to create the state of Palestine and supported them in the war with Turkey, the British clearly threw the Arabs, but the sediment remained as in a joke


          Rabinovich, were you visiting us yesterday? ” - “It was!” - “So after your departure, silver spoons disappeared!” - “But I did not take them, I am a decent person!” “But still the spoons are gone! So don’t come to visit us anymore! .. Rabinovich, spoons were found! ” - "So, can I come to visit?" - “don’t need any spoons, but the sediment remains!”
          1. igor67
            igor67 8 November 2012 15: 28
            +2
            Vadivak,
            A young Jew comes to the rabbi and asks:
            - Rabbe, I have money. Do not advise where to put them?
            The rabbi thought for a moment. Then a young girl came up and also asked for advice. Young gentleman
            gave way. Girl:
            - Rabbe! I'm getting married. Should I wear a shirt on my wedding night or not?
            Rabbi:
            - No difference. They still have you ... Young man, by the way, this also applies to you ...
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 8 November 2012 15: 34
              +3
              Smiled. I remembered how during privatization my acquaintance "invested" his voucher in the "Neftalmazinvest Fund" as in a joke
              1. igor67
                igor67 8 November 2012 15: 36
                +1
                Vadivak,
                And I replaced a bag of sugar, all was enough for the winter
                1. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 8 November 2012 15: 49
                  +3
                  Quote: igor67
                  And I replaced a bag of sugar, all was enough for the winter


                  Well, yes, there was sugar on coupons. The joke is also the oldest of those times
                  Away.
                  - You washed your hands with soap?
                  - With soap.
                  “Then you will drink tea without sugar.”
              2. Ascetic
                Ascetic 8 November 2012 15: 52
                +2
                Madam, may I privatize you?
                Madame:
                - Please show your voucher.
                Well, a man unzips his fly, shows his "voucher".
                Madame:
                - Oh, I thought you had "Hopper-Voper", but you had "Russian real estate". laughing
  6. Denzel13
    Denzel13 8 November 2012 11: 48
    +3
    The title of the article is very loud. I thought it was a sinful thing, here it is - NATO is falling apart! And the essence is in drones.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 8 November 2012 12: 57
      0
      Israel is not a member of NATO
      1. donchepano
        donchepano 8 November 2012 13: 07
        +3
        well yes. In the divine union ...
  7. Cavas
    Cavas 8 November 2012 11: 52
    +5
    The government made such a tough decision in protest against the interception of the Peace Flotilla by the Israeli military in 2010 and Tel Aviv's refusal to apologize for the incident. As a reminder, nine people were killed during it - eight Turkish citizens and one Turkish American.


    Who else is a Jewish question?
    IntЬErdogan waited for a year, and then covered himself with the "Peace Flotilla"! laughing

    according to the Turkish military, "they have proven themselves poorly in operations against militants of the Kurdish Workers' Party (PKK).


    I understand that, according to the Turkish military, a UAV should distinguish a Kurd from a Turk !? wassat
    1. hrych
      hrych 8 November 2012 16: 00
      +2
      Apparently everything from above in the chelm ...
  8. Pula
    Pula 8 November 2012 11: 54
    +2
    Lease is not leasing. Used and returned. Well, I didn’t like the toy. And where does the military partnership.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 8 November 2012 12: 57
      -2
      There the general situation is heated
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 8 November 2012 14: 32
        0
        Quote: Pimply
        There the general situation is heated

        - if you come the truth, I’m happy for you, congratulations!
        You take off the intensity very simply - you mess up and the whole business. A little later, the Russians will separate and receive, as a reward, finally, access to the Dardanelles and the Mediterranean Sea, which I have long dreamed of - on the thread with Wasserman's article read about the "useful" revolution, it seems like they should agree, someone is close to you in a certain sense , almost a relative -)))). Are you happy about that, Pimply? After all, access to the sea and Russian influence in the Middle East will finally come true?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 9 November 2012 13: 19
          -1
          What are your fancy fantasies. Tell me, and about the future picture of the world you can - so interesting, so interesting wink
  9. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 8 November 2012 12: 46
    0
    There is nothing more to write about ... More recently, the same thing was written .... Personally, I thought something happened worthy of attention ...
  10. MilaPhone
    MilaPhone 8 November 2012 12: 51
    +2
    Turkey already sees itself in the near future as the leader of Muslim states - and is slowly refusing to compromise friendship with Israel.
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 8 November 2012 13: 09
      0
      There the future Kurdistan in the ass will be pricked like a good nail
  11. serjant4
    serjant4 8 November 2012 13: 25
    0
    The Ottoman Empire has long been gone, but the show-off remained. East is a delicate matter, however :)
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 8 November 2012 14: 58
      +1
      It may or may not be it — the Ottoman empire .. Only here the Turks in the Southern Federal District (in the Caucasus) began to behave very aggressively. As the owners. Conflicts, fights, lawlessness., Buying up houses (where so much money from?). extrusion of the indigenous population
  12. Mishael
    Mishael 8 November 2012 13: 48
    +1
    Looking from my belfry (a communications officer in reserve), I can assume that the Turks are afraid of espionage. There will be more smart goals in the defense industry complex in Israel than in Turkey ... hi
    1. donchepano
      donchepano 10 November 2012 14: 48
      0
      Turkish intelligence has long been actively working in the territory of the former USSR, especially in the Caucasus
  13. Anxious
    Anxious 8 November 2012 14: 02
    0
    Turkey decided to quarrel with everyone in the district ...
  14. tekinoral
    tekinoral 8 November 2012 16: 26
    -2
    Trade turnover between Israel and Turkey increased in 2011, despite the cool political relations between the two states, states Today's Zaman newspaper on Sunday, May 6.

    The publication reports that in 2011 Turkey imported Israeli products for a record amount of $ 2 billion. Over the same period, Israel, according to Ankara, imported $ 2,4 billion worth of Turkish products.

    In the first quarter of 2012, bilateral trade amounted to a billion dollars, which is more than in the same period of 2011.

    The only affected industry is tourism. In 2011, 80.000 Israelis visited Turkey, which is about 30% less than in 2010. But, according to the newspaper, after the Israeli authorities canceled the warning about trips to Turkey, the number of tourists should increase.
  15. VLADIMIR700
    VLADIMIR700 8 November 2012 20: 51
    0
    An interesting layout is obtained wink
  16. suharev-52
    suharev-52 9 November 2012 00: 06
    +1
    Let them quarrel. These are their games, and we are obliged for this delay to take all measures to re-equip and prepare the army for a possible war. Sincerely.