Erdogan in a telephone conversation with Putin called for a "fair solution" on Ukraine

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Erdogan in a telephone conversation with Putin called for a "fair solution" on Ukraine

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is still trying to act as a peacemaker and reconcile Russia and Ukraine. As reported in the office of the Turkish leader, Erdogan held telephone conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The conversation took place at the initiative of the Turkish side, the presidents discussed a number of issues, including bilateral relations, the situation in Syria and the military conflict in Ukraine, in general, everything that greatly worries Ankara. The main topic, judging by the publications of the Turkish press, was still Syria, where the Turkish army is preparing to conduct another military operation against the self-defense units of the Kurds.



On Ukraine, Erdogan called on Putin for a "fair solution" by advocating a ceasefire and ending the conflict through peaceful negotiations. Neither the office of the Turkish president nor the Turkish press provides other details. It is worth noting that Erdogan, from the very beginning of the special military operation of the Russian army, has been trying to reconcile Russia and Ukraine, making statements of this kind.

There have also been repeated proposals to provide intermediary services from Turkey, but to date, all Ankara's efforts are in vain. Moscow said that although they were ready for negotiations, they should only take place on Russian terms and certainly not with Zelensky as a negotiator. The Kyiv inmate is not an independent figure, he is a puppet of the West and carries out all orders coming from across the ocean. So it is necessary to talk with the Americans and the British, but they are not ready for this, declaring their intention to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Kyiv is also not ready for negotiations, declaring that they must first "liberate" the entire territory of Ukraine, including the Donbass and Crimea, and only then talk with Moscow, again from a position of strength. So Erdogan's desire to act as a peacemaker is not yet feasible.
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    1. +15
      5 January 2023 13: 41
      On the one hand, trains drive Kirpi armored cars to Ukraine, on the other hand, they trade with us. It also calls for peace.
      1. +9
        5 January 2023 13: 43
        What kind of decision is fair according to Erdogan? Give up Crimea and disperse or what? laughing Something like on command, everyone stepped up to ask for a truce, starting from the Patriarch and ending with Erdogan. It looks like the APU is doing very badly. Or maybe not listen to anyone, not follow anyone’s lead, but put pressure on the APU, complete the work of at least the liberation of Donbass, and only then to think about a truce, but rather about peace on our terms, otherwise it’s possible to fight FOREVER, without solving the problem, but only interrupted from time to time from one Minsk to another? They will leave us behind only when we show strength and fight back, because everyone will understand that we cannot be conquered and they will abandon this venture. And if we always agree to a truce to our own detriment, then we will be pressured all the time, because we did not fight back, but only once again agreed to the conditions of the West regarding a truce. So we don’t care they won't leave you alone. That's what Western agent Korchinsky says. So all these truces are a betrayal.

        “Ukraine must provide assistance to every people who are trying to remember their national identity. First of all, to the peoples of the Caucasus, because this is the key to the disintegration of the "erefiya" - the Tatars, the Bashkirs, all the Turks and everyone who wakes up. Yes, we must help, stimulate and our defense must be extremely active. That is. We must go there and help these peoples to free themselves. With access to the state borders, the war will not end for us. Because as long as there is Muscovy, there is a war. As long as it exists, we are in mortal danger. If this has been the case for the last 500 years, then most likely the next 500 years will be exactly the same if we do not finish them off,” Korchinsky said.

        https://m.politnavigator.net/ukraina-ne-ostanovitsya-vyjjdya-na-svoi-granicy-a-budet-podderzhivat-separatizm-v-rossii-korchinskijj.html
        1. VB
          +7
          5 January 2023 15: 00
          I wonder how Putin wants to make peace as soon as possible. And then he will say with Lavrov that they again deceived. Every day, if not deceived and not humiliated, then the day is wasted.
          1. +1
            5 January 2023 16: 19
            Quote: VB
            I wonder how Putin wants to make peace as soon as possible. And then he will say with Lavrov that they again deceived. Every day, if not deceived and not humiliated, then the day is wasted.


            They usually deceive those who are happy to be deceived.
        2. -1
          5 January 2023 15: 03
          Erdogan in a telephone conversation with Putin called for a "fair solution" on Ukraine
          And what does Erdogan's "fair decision" look like in Ukraine?

          First of all. Erdogan is an Ottoman.
          And secondly. Turkey's project on the creation of the so-called. "Great Turan" has not disappeared anywhere!

          According to the Turkish project of the "Great Turan" of the Ottomanists of Turkey Crimea, among other lands, should enter the lands of the Great Turan.
          As a result, the policy of Erdogan and Turkey on Ukraine and Russia is absolutely understandable. Namely.
          It is much easier for Erdogan (Turkey) to take Crimea from Kyiv than to take Russian Crimea from Russia!
          TOTAL. Therefore, with all of his double-dealing actions between Ukraine and Russia, Erdogan is and will continue to act on the side of the Nazi-Russian Kyiv regime in Ukraine, and not on the side of Russia!

          REFERENCE
          The future Ottoman Empire - according to the "Great Turan" project - will include, according to Erdogan, Abkhazia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, as well as Russian territories: the Caucasus, Crimea, Dagestan, Tatarstan, Astrakhan, Volgograd, Rostov, Saratov, Samara regions, Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories and even Siberia.

          "Great Turan" Erdogan: Turkey is preparing to create and lead a military alliance in the zone of interests of Russia. Published 2 years ago.


          ONE TURAN. Can the TURKS unite? [ENG SUB] Published 1 year ago.


          1. 0
            5 January 2023 16: 22
            Quote: Tatiana
            Erdogan in a telephone conversation with Putin called for a "fair solution" on Ukraine
            And what does Erdogan's "fair decision" look like in Ukraine?

            First of all. Erdogan is an Ottoman.
            And secondly. Turkey's project on the creation of the so-called. "Great Turan" has not disappeared anywhere!

            According to the Turkish project of the "Great Turan" of the Ottomanists of Turkey Crimea, among other lands, should enter the lands of the Great Turan.
            As a result, the policy of Erdogan and Turkey on Ukraine and Russia is absolutely understandable. Namely.
            It is much easier for Erdogan (Turkey) to take Crimea from Kyiv than to take Russian Crimea from Russia!
            TOTAL. Therefore, with all of his double-dealing actions between Ukraine and Russia, Erdogan is and will continue to act on the side of the Nazi-Russian Kyiv regime in Ukraine, and not on the side of Russia!

            REFERENCE
            The future Ottoman Empire - according to the "Great Turan" project - will include, according to Erdogan, Abkhazia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, as well as Russian territories: the Caucasus, Crimea, Dagestan, Tatarstan, Astrakhan, Volgograd, Rostov, Saratov, Samara regions, Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories and even Siberia.

            "Great Turan" Erdogan: Turkey is preparing to create and lead a military alliance in the zone of interests of Russia. Published 2 years ago.


            ONE TURAN. Can the TURKS unite? [ENG SUB] Published 1 year ago.


            No. These are not plans. This is already a diagnosis. But most likely another fairy tale for the electorate for new elections. I strongly doubt that Azerbaijan will want to be part of the mythical Turan. Russia. It seems to be all their own, but just a little bit of tobacco apart. So we also have that Union State with Belarus.
      2. +6
        5 January 2023 13: 44
        Quote: kaufman
        On the one hand, trains drive Kirpi armored cars to Ukraine, on the other hand, they trade with us. It also calls for peace.

        So the Bayraktars play pranks on him there... this sultan is still a swindler... and he milks the Americans and doesn't forget to have a gesheft from Russia... also a poker lover.
      3. +3
        5 January 2023 14: 13
        Quote: kaufman
        On the one hand, trains drive Kirpi armored cars to Ukraine, on the other hand, they trade with us. It also calls for peace.

        Not only armored vehicles, but also drones, electronic warfare modules for them, stationary electronic warfare for 70 km. So the negotiations with Erdogan, a so-so "strategic partnership", are more likely to have some other reasons that we do not know about.
      4. -4
        5 January 2023 14: 17
        The only "fair decision" in Ukraine!.
        Correct card:

        By the way, there is an inscription on the site of Tribaltika: "Range for testing missiles"! .. wink
        1. +3
          5 January 2023 14: 26
          This is the wrong card. I found the word "Ukraine" on it.
          1. -2
            5 January 2023 14: 48
            That's right, the map is not correct, there should be no such thing as a Ruin at all. And never again this misunderstanding should be restored in any form.
        2. 0
          5 January 2023 14: 44
          Quote: Paul Siebert
          The only "fair decision" in Ukraine!.
          Correct card:

          By the way, there is an inscription on the site of Tribaltika: "Range for testing missiles"! .. wink

          Something to hell with Ukraine on the map .. To continue the war? This will not work . There should not be the slightest piece of Ukraine Svidomo Bandera. Destroy the dandruff nits of Zelensky, Zaluzhny, Budanov, the head of the essbu, arrestovich and other rot. Cut out the Nazi rot, burn out the trash with a red-hot iron. Otherwise, you won’t save Holy Rus' ..
          1. +1
            5 January 2023 19: 10
            Minuses dandruff Cipsose? Sorry, I'm not smart enough to write a normal comment
      5. 0
        6 January 2023 20: 10
        The Turks claim that these Kirpis are preventing the West from imposing sanctions on Turkey for helping Russia avoid sanctions imposed on it. Yes, at first many Turks hoped that Ukraine would win this round and Russia would return to the 2014 border. But most Turks now know that they will never be able to help Ukraine enough to make that happen, which is why they cut off large arms transfers a few months ago. But they will keep marginal supplies even if Ukraine is on the brink of losing, because in that case NATO cannot accuse it of siding with Russia, even though it has the deepest relationship with Russia among NATO members. Turkey is not a friend, it is a major partner.
    2. +9
      5 January 2023 13: 43
      First, let this hypocritical dog of 4 letters Perdogan stop supplying weapons to Ukraine, and then open his dirty mouth!
      1. 0
        5 January 2023 15: 18
        Quote from StarWarrior
        Perdogan will stop supplying weapons to Ukraine

        He does not just give weapons, he sells them, unlike all other "partner" countries.
    3. +1
      5 January 2023 13: 45
      Why did Russia attack the art of war? Why were 150-160 thousand people sent to a country with 600 thousand km2? Where are the FSB and the GRU? Nobody knew the mood in Ukrainian society? Why Kyiv was not fired from artillery? Why were the bridges on the Dnieper not destroyed at the first stage of the war? Where is FAB-500 located? fab 1500? It's all one big sabotage and lack of responsibility. This is the result of 30 years of democracy and 20 years of Putin's rule. Meanwhile, the elites continue to do business with the West.
    4. +4
      5 January 2023 13: 45
      A fair decision is set out in Ryabkov's Ultimatum. Everything else is from the evil one.
    5. +4
      5 January 2023 13: 46
      NATO "justice" does not suit us. We have our own, the real one.
    6. HAM
      +4
      5 January 2023 13: 46
      A "fair decision" in Ukraine is, presumably, to give Crimea to Turkey!??
      1. 0
        5 January 2023 22: 05
        Quote: HAM
        "Fair decision" in Ukraine is, presumably, to give Crimea to Turkey!??

        Not only Crimea, but everything, everything, everything. Erdogan is a British agent (or at least a protege), and Turkey is a rising superpower (at the expense of the Russian Federation), the heir to the USSR. So they pointed out in London (they have a plan, and they not only think it).
    7. +3
      5 January 2023 13: 47
      You need to study like a Christmas tree and a fish. """"
      1. +2
        5 January 2023 13: 57
        That's right. How this Turkic world promotes itself .. Wants to suck everyone around for the sake of its own. Yes, ours need to learn
        1. +1
          5 January 2023 14: 46
          Quote from: dmi.pris1
          Yes, we need to learn

          Erdogash is now in the most advantageous position in the last hundred years. So - "What I want, then I turn back" ... Bolt put both on Russia and on Omeriga. hi
    8. +1
      5 January 2023 13: 47
      Erdogan in a telephone conversation with Putin called for a "fair solution" on Ukraine
      . The conflict is serious, significant for many... many want to put on the guise of a peacemaker!!!
      I doubt that anyone from the outside will succeed.
      Everything is decided in one, two places and nowhere else ... no one else will be invited there.
    9. +2
      5 January 2023 13: 49
      Began. As soon as ours begin to advance, everyone immediately begins to ask for peace.
      1. +8
        5 January 2023 13: 55
        Worst of all, no one among the leadership of the Russian Federation is counting on victory. If the Western masters persuade Ukraine to negotiate, our Russian Foreign Ministry will immediately rush, stumbling and falling, to sign another temporary and shameful for Russia truce with the Nazis.
      2. -1
        5 January 2023 14: 13
        Quote: Arkady007
        Began. As soon as ours begin to advance, everyone immediately begins to ask for peace.

        Roma Abramovich is probably already going to negotiate. Haven't gotten anywhere without it yet. Gestures, goodwill, deals, exchanges...
    10. -1
      5 January 2023 13: 51
      By definition, there is no fair solution to any conflict. There may be a victory for one side, or any reconciliation on compromise terms.
    11. +4
      5 January 2023 13: 54
      " Watson , what is this howling in the swamps ? " I can not understand where there is a reason for the fact that all of a sudden became more active and began to offer themselves as mediators in negotiations with Ukraine . Not for nothing all this. Does anyone have an answer, please?
    12. +5
      5 January 2023 13: 56
      Perdogan offered his friend Vladimir a complete and unconditional surrender of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine?
      1. 0
        5 January 2023 14: 04
        The Sultan hinted that he would not mind one more step to increase his political weight in the form of a peacemaker solver ....
    13. -1
      5 January 2023 13: 58
      A fair decision in Ukraine can only be this:
      1. -4
        5 January 2023 14: 03
        It's a fantasy, alas. """"
        1. +1
          5 January 2023 14: 06
          Well, if the navirhu is not pissed off, it is quite real. Galicia - under the Polish protectorate and let the Poles fuck with them. All the same, the Poles will cut out the Galicians. They are now shooting them - conflicts constantly.
    14. 0
      5 January 2023 14: 05
      Turks in their repertoire - both ours and yours. And also pretend to be a world power.
      1. 0
        6 January 2023 20: 17
        https://topwar.ru/208141-jerdogan-v-telefonnom-razgovore-s-putinym-prizval-k-spravedlivomu-resheniju-po-ukraine.html#comment-id-13221123
    15. +3
      5 January 2023 14: 05
      Historically, we have one path - "Everyone who raised his hand against Russia must be destroyed."
    16. -2
      5 January 2023 14: 08
      Quote from StarWarrior
      A fair decision in Ukraine can only be this:


      Quote: Nexcom
      Well, if the navirhu is not pissed off, it is quite real.


      Quote: Vladimir61
      Historically, we have one path - "Everyone who raised his hand against Russia must be destroyed."


      Sofa troops attack! lol
      1. -4
        5 January 2023 14: 21
        What don't you like about this map? Although I understand - who will like it when your country has already been divided into pieces, even if this country is a lifeless undereducation, created only to spoil Russia
    17. +1
      5 January 2023 14: 08
      Erdogan in a telephone conversation with Putin called for a "fair solution" on Ukraine

      Justice, according to Erdogan, is the next batch of Nazis to resorts in Turkey to be released from captivity. And then again they will go to the hut, they will replenish the ranks of Azov.
      1. 0
        6 January 2023 20: 21
        Russia has set a condition that the Azov members remain in Turkey as long as the "special operation" continues.
    18. +2
      5 January 2023 14: 08
      Everything is as usual - before the upcoming offensive, the Western partners, in the person of their Androgan torpedo, begin to exert political pressure and offer "dead goods" in the form of muddy movements in Syria, and in return demand the surrender of the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine
    19. -3
      5 January 2023 14: 12
      Erdogan, as the president of his country, certainly commands respect, and Putin has a lot to learn from him. I mean the protection of national interests. the sultan does not try to be pretty for everyone ... maybe that's why he is not regularly deceived by all sorts of hollandes-merkels ???

      secondly, to be friends and flirt with Turkey on the part of Putin is a very so-so step ... with such "friends" there is no need for enemies
    20. +2
      5 January 2023 14: 14
      Turkey and justice???...then they need to return to their Uighur places, from where they came to Asia Minor
    21. +1
      5 January 2023 14: 26
      Quote: flint
      What don't you like about this map? Although I understand - who will like it when your country has already been divided into pieces, even if this country is a lifeless undereducation, created only to spoil Russia


      To me?
      I don't like the fact that those who call for this card are themselves sitting on sofas.
      Therefore, someone else must go to bring this card to life, while the summoners sit on the sofas and revel in their greatness.
      1. 0
        5 January 2023 20: 05
        Why are they calling? They simply voice what should be, what our Motherland needs, and what's wrong with that? And the fact that some of these are on the couch is okay, for example, at one time I took part in some events and did not fall apart, and why can’t I call on the young to stand up for their country? And there is no greatness here. And in such a difficult time, only enemies of the country or narrow-minded people can yell at such a difficult time that everything is gone, that everything is bad around
        1. -2
          5 January 2023 21: 55
          Quote: flint
          and why can't I encourage young people to stand up for their country?


          Oh, you probably don't know about Putin's Christmas Truce yet?

          And young people look at it and do not want to go to die.
          1. -1
            6 January 2023 01: 27
            And no one wants to die, not only young people, but when necessary, you will have to do your duty, otherwise you are a coward and a scoundrel
    22. 0
      5 January 2023 14: 28
      Being friends with Erdogan is like sitting on a barrel of gunpowder.
    23. 0
      5 January 2023 14: 28
      Zelensky ve erdoğan, ikisi aynı.
      Her ikisi'de amerikanın dediklerini yerine getiren personeli, Zelenskyy askeri araç ve dolar yardımı yapan, kırımın Ukrayna toprağı olduğunu her zaman iddia eden, gizli gizli ukraynaya yardımlarını sürdüren erdoğan, Putinin dikkat etmesi ve fazla güvenmemesi gereken bir kişi, bu yıl seçimleri kaybederse amerika' ya gidip yerleşmesi söz konusu, cünkü tüm kişisel yardımlarını amerikaya aktarmış durumda, Zelensky ve erdoğan her an ülkelerinden kaçmaları söz konusu.
    24. 0
      5 January 2023 14: 42
      On Ukraine, Erdogan called on Putin for a "fair solution" by advocating a ceasefire and ending the conflict through peaceful negotiations.

      A fair decision is the return of its territories to Russia, the disarmament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, or rather, leaving only the National Guard. A fair trial for the Nazis.
    25. +1
      5 January 2023 14: 43
      Quote: kaufman
      On the one hand, trains drive Kirpi armored cars to Ukraine, on the other hand, they trade with us. It also calls for peace.

      - the Turk plays openly, does not even hide his double, or maybe triple game ... (Syria, Ukraine, Kurds ....)
    26. -4
      5 January 2023 14: 56
      A fair decision for these ANIMAL RUSSOPHOBES would be to leave them within the borders of 1654, when Khmelnitsky asked to go to Russia. Why do they need the legacy of "damned Russian Muscovites", without which even such a country would not exist?
    27. -2
      5 January 2023 15: 00
      Therefore, Erdogan grumbles that not everything is good with the course of his own, even very bad.
    28. -2
      5 January 2023 15: 09
      Well done! It is fair to end the conflict by including a couple more new territories in Russia, disarmament, denazification of the remaining territory, a change in the political regime and a trial of Nazi war criminals.
      in our opinion)
      1. -1
        5 January 2023 16: 12
        Surprised that on this site someone did not like such fairness.
    29. 0
      5 January 2023 15: 20
      You might think Putin is against! Of course, he, like all of us, is exclusively for a fair decision on Ukraine! It completely withdraws from the territories of the LDNR, ZO and KhO, and also completely frees Kharkov, Nikolaev, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk and Poltava from its presence. In other territories, the government of Ukraine withdraws units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to winter quarters, disbands nationalist battalions and regiments, arrests, sentences their former employees to long terms and their leaders to capital punishment, prohibits the glorification of Nazism, returns monuments of the Soviet period and historical names to streets and cities, resumes the work of the repressed media!

      IMHO, a super fair decision in Ukraine. Any other decision is not fair.
    30. -1
      5 January 2023 15: 48
      Erdogan in a telephone conversation with Putin called for a "fair solution" on Ukraine

      Here is another peacemaker, it would be better if he put things in order in his diocese, he made peace with the Kurds!
    31. -2
      5 January 2023 20: 44
      After the grain deal, the surrender of Kherson, and the last shame with the truce, it became quite obvious who was holding whom for tomatoes.
    32. 0
      6 January 2023 06: 52
      Quote: flint
      And no one wants to die, not only young people, but when necessary, you will have to do your duty, otherwise you are a coward and a scoundrel


      Yes, what are you talking about!)))
      And those who continue to pay Ukraine for the transit of resources to the West, those who generally still supply resources to this very West - who are they then? By the way, for some reason their children are not visible on the front line.

      And you are a typical martinet, obviously. All under the same brush. And people are all different. And not everyone is given to work with weapons. At the same time, people do not refuse to help their country. But the ACS, you see, is not provided for in the conditions of mobilization. Although people in the Donbass need not only military assistance, but also, obviously, social and civil.

      And people like you sit on warm sofas.
      Isn't the hostilities already touching the territory of Russia, our home?

      And if suddenly a Ukrainian DRG breaks into your apartment, then what are you? Will you call Shoigu with a demand to send you a company of mobilized, because your age does not allow you to fight? Or what? Or will you fight?
    33. 0
      6 January 2023 15: 49
      And the Turks have Bayram there. Having become ill at the dorozi, tai, having collected bids, which I sent to the vzhe on the cart, were brought here.
    34. +1
      6 January 2023 16: 42
      The most fair thing, of course, is to reach the western borders of Ukraine, making this territory truly independent from Western bandits.
    35. 0
      6 January 2023 19: 46
      It is worth noting that Erdogan, from the very beginning of the special military operation of the Russian army, has been trying to reconcile Russia and Ukraine, making statements of this kind.

      Erdogan also refused to bow to NATO pressure to impose sanctions or price caps on Russia. Turkey is currently acting as a lifeline for a sanctions-ridden Russia and has regularly (even yesterday) named the West as the main culprit in this war. Yes, the President of Turkey acts in accordance with the interests of his country; but apart from Putin, he is also the only major leader capable of publicly pointing out the evil conspiracies of the West. Uncle Sam obviously doesn't like it, but they can't take tougher action against Turkey while the war in Ukraine is in full swing. Just last week US officials were in Ankara to put pressure on Turkey over the Russia issue.
      Thus, Erdogan is still Russia's biggest partner (currently on par with China), as well as its biggest "regional" competitor. In Turkey's interest to keep Ukraine as an independent country, Erdogan knows that Russia will show no mercy to his country if it completely takes over Ukraine. But it is also in Turkey's interests that Russia survive this war and not again become a powerless country pleasing to the West. This will give NATO complete independence in action against Turkey. Thus, Erdogan is a puppet of his country's interests. To understand Erdogan's dance, one must see the situation through the eyes of a Turkish Islamist.
    36. 0
      12 January 2023 13: 14
      Stop before the Dnieper, and do not take any more parts of Ukraine, and especially do not touch Odessa. to leave Odessa ... here are his thoughts aloud

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