The Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine threatened Germany with a "war on German territory" in case of refusal to transfer tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

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The Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine threatened Germany with a "war on German territory" in case of refusal to transfer tanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine

In the event that Germany refuses to hand over its Tanks Leopard to Ukraine, she runs the risk of facing war already on her own territory. This was stated by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov, speaking on the air of the Ukrainian telethon.

According to a senior Ukrainian official, if German Chancellor Olaf Scholz wants Germany to fight in German tanks near Berlin and Stuttgart against Russian troops, he may continue to oppose the supply of tanks to Ukraine. In a boorish manner familiar to the current Kyiv regime, Danilov noted that Scholz could “continue this game” and “conduct sociological research” on the question of whether or not tanks should be transferred to Ukraine.



The Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council also cited some other “Western partners” as an example of Germany, who are now stepping up their support for Ukraine. Probably the US and UK. Danilov threatened Germany and Europe as a whole with some challenges that are "enormous."

True, it is not very clear what modern Germany should share with Russia if it ceases to be a puppet of the United States and follows Washington's lead. However, there is a certain truth in Danilov’s words: if the Armed Forces of Ukraine are defeated, then the next US against Russia may well abandon European “partners” - first Poland and the Baltic countries, and then Germany and France.

Recall that recently Ukraine has been very actively trying to obtain from Germany modern Leopard tanks. The German authorities oppose this, also because there are not so many tanks for the needs of the Bundeswehr itself. In addition, during the hostilities, any tangible disadvantages of armored vehicles may come to light, which will affect its sales. Finally, the West doubts the ability of the Ukrainian military to properly operate modern armored vehicles of American and European production.
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  1. +7
    4 January 2023 20: 05
    But he is right - the Bundeswehr is nothing compared to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. +20
      4 January 2023 20: 14
      Quote from StarWarrior
      But he is right - the Bundeswehr is nothing compared to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      We need them all to be - nothing!
      1. +8
        5 January 2023 01: 09
        And we need it, also to save Germany?
        They destroy themselves. Your culture, your people. And I see no reason to interfere with this.
        We just have to wait. In half a century, Russia will have quite normal relations with the Arab caliphate "Germany".
        1. -7
          5 January 2023 02: 29
          Quote: Shurik70
          In half a century, Russia will have quite normal relations with the Arab caliphate "Germany".

          When will the Supreme Caliph sit in Moscow?
      2. +2
        5 January 2023 01: 49
        Quote: Clear
        We need them all to be - nothing!

        And they are everything and there is nothing! the Americans milked them!
      3. 0
        5 January 2023 09: 45
        So it’s clear that the equipment is in the hands of savages, it’s a pile of scrap metal, don’t let everything get angry.
    2. +1
      4 January 2023 20: 22
      Bundeswehr, perhaps, yes. But they are unlikely to be measured by strength one by one. And if the troops are transferred by the United States, it can become sad.
      1. LMN
        +8
        4 January 2023 20: 31
        And if the troops are transferred by the United States, it can become sad.


        They can transfer troops as much as they like, but if something starts, they will immediately fall down.

        They will not fight directly with us. Why do they need this?
        1. +10
          4 January 2023 21: 27
          Quote: LMN
          They will not fight directly with us. Why do they need it?

          This is not a valid Question. The right question is, why is a telethon still being held in Ukraine? Where do they get electricity from? Why is this telethon someone watching. Why does the Metro work? and Why weapons, ammunition and fuel are still being delivered to the LBS.
          I remember Lavrov declared legitimate goals, and where are these goals?
          1. 0
            5 January 2023 02: 49
            Where where? And you don't know yourself. They go and fly
        2. +3
          4 January 2023 23: 10
          In the current situation, indeed, they will not climb directly. But if it smells like 1918, then it is quite possible. Profit from the wealth of Russia has not yet refused.
      2. +1
        4 January 2023 21: 45
        And if the troops will be thrown by the USA

        Firstly - on feijoa, do mattress covers need to fight themselves? Secondly - how much can they throw something? With hundreds of bases all over the planet and obvious graters with China, I don’t think there are very many .. It’s dangerous for them to weaken other areas, especially for the sake of Tsegabonia ..
        1. +2
          4 January 2023 23: 01
          Well, in Iraq, they, at one time, threw a good group. And what does Ukraine have to do with it? I meant war with NATO countries
        2. 0
          5 January 2023 09: 51
          But you don’t need much (((a dozen more chimeras and a couple of dozen attack aircraft. The Germans and French will scrape together, the Turks will throw them in.
      3. 0
        4 January 2023 22: 54
        Quote: Lykases1
        Bundeswehr, perhaps, yes. But they are unlikely to be measured by strength one by one.

        “What happened to people? There were people like people, and suddenly .... A paradox.” The Bundeswehr and the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Rather, the Bundeswehr and Poland. request
    3. +16
      4 January 2023 20: 35
      It is quite realistic that the German Bundeswehr may soon begin to fight near Berlin and Stuttgart)) but against Ukrainian organized crime groups from fugitive national soldiers armed with state-of-the-art NATO weapons))
      And knowing what these Ukrainian non-humans are doing with their former compatriots, the German livery should take care of what they will do against unarmed burghers of indeterminate gender))
      1. 0
        5 January 2023 01: 54
        For dill, just gender is not important. The main Schaub moved!
    4. +1
      4 January 2023 20: 56
      But he is right - the Bundeswehr is nothing compared to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      Here is a hint that Russia, having won, will certainly attack the Hans. And it seems that the chances, having broken down, will still supply some (albeit not the latest modification) number of their tanks. The paddling pools have already announced the supply of AMX-10 to kaklam.
      1. 0
        4 January 2023 21: 48
        announced the delivery of AMX-10

        It's junk from the 70s. Typical anti-Papuan product. In addition, it is not a fact that the piece of iron, which is generally applicable in Ukrainian conditions, was created mainly for African realities.
        1. +5
          4 January 2023 22: 15
          I have more and more suspicions that they are going to make some kind of papus from Europe. Politically, it has been like this for a long time, economically it can become.
    5. -1
      4 January 2023 21: 40
      Is not a fact. The Bundeswehr primarily has modern weapons and equipment. And a serious approach to the preparation of the army
    6. +8
      4 January 2023 21: 54
      Quote from StarWarrior
      But he is right - the Bundeswehr is nothing compared to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      So the Germans survived that the former veterinarian, a bandit from Lugansk. makes them a goat! Threatens war! Like give me the tanks, otherwise !!! I’ll come and beat my face .. Iron Germany, which kept the whole world in fear, the richest country, is turning its tail from a hail from KRIZHOPEL !!!
    7. 0
      4 January 2023 22: 48
      Quote from StarWarrior
      But he is right - the Bundeswehr is nothing compared to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      belay "What did you think?" APU will punish the Bundeswehr? fool
      In the event that Germany refuses to transfer its Leopard tanks to Ukraine, it risks facing a war already on its own territory.
      This should be understood like this: "We will not resist, you will be the next" But Germany has a real option to fight, with Poland + sprats (England will say, fool there will be) request
  2. +17
    4 January 2023 20: 06
    "If German Chancellor Olaf Scholz wants Germany to fight in German tanks near Berlin and Stuttgart against Russian troops, he may continue to oppose the supply of tanks to Ukraine"
    yes, exactly the opposite, they are being delivered - they will receive a war on their territory
    1. +8
      4 January 2023 20: 14
      Quote: poquello
      "If German Chancellor Olaf Scholz wants Germany to fight in German tanks near Berlin and Stuttgart against Russian troops, he may continue to oppose the supply of tanks to Ukraine"
      yes, exactly the opposite, they are being delivered - they will receive a war on their territory

      Especially given the activation of the Poles to revise the results of the Second World War!
    2. +8
      4 January 2023 20: 16
      Yes, they would have merged Ukraine and lived for their own pleasure.
      Contrary to the wishes of the striped.
      1. +1
        4 January 2023 20: 51
        The striped ones, in which case, they will certainly remain on the sidelines and will watch the ongoing battle from the sidelines, although they won’t be able to sit out for a long time, our nuclear forces will get adversaries anywhere, now through any pole.
  3. +2
    4 January 2023 20: 06
    Tochnyak, together with the comedian-hetman, sniff coke.
  4. +2
    4 January 2023 20: 08
    Quote from StarWarrior
    But he is right - the Bundeswehr is nothing compared to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    And soon the Poles will bypass the Germans.
    1. -1
      4 January 2023 22: 16
      And soon the Poles will bypass the Germans.
      So there should be a lot of cannon fodder!
  5. +2
    4 January 2023 20: 09
    ukrr they can take them to the club and now they put people on the battlefield for this club!
  6. +2
    4 January 2023 20: 13
    So Germany has a total of 266 Leopard 2 tanks. Not such a large number.
    1. -3
      4 January 2023 20: 15
      this is now, we don’t know what they are doing, maybe they rivet these tanks under the headings of a secret, well, it doesn’t matter how many tanks!
      1. +3
        4 January 2023 20: 21
        Quote: opuonmed
        this is now, we don’t know what they are doing, maybe they rivet these tanks under the headings of a secret, well, it doesn’t matter how many tanks!

        If the United States cannot quickly increase the production of military equipment with their injections into the defense industry (it takes years), then Germany will certainly not be able to.
        1. -2
          4 January 2023 21: 09
          the United States will increase and has already increased, you would think how it would be to destroy everything on the steps!
          1. +2
            4 January 2023 21: 25
            Quote: opuonmed
            the United States will increase and has already increased, you would think how it would be to destroy everything on the steps!

            And what did they grow? If we take the same tanks, then the United States does not produce tanks, they only modernize them, the capacities are crammed with the modernization of tanks to the M1A2 SEP V3 level for their army, they do not have the capacity to repair old M1A1 tanks with a 105 mm cannon from the storage base in the desert, and not a fact that the shells remained 105 mm, and no one will produce them specially.
            1. 0
              4 January 2023 22: 00
              The United States intends to provide Kyiv with new military assistance in the coming days and weeks, they do not expect an early cessation of fighting in Ukraine - the White House is already almost there if not there!
            2. 0
              4 January 2023 23: 23
              The United States is considering the possibility of providing Ukraine with Bradley infantry fighting vehicles
        2. +1
          4 January 2023 22: 19
          If the United States cannot quickly increase the production of military equipment with their injections into the defense industry (it takes years), then Germany will certainly not be able to.
          And you just, even in their wiki, look at how many tanks the United States had in 1939-1940 and how many there were in 1941-1942. And most importantly - what kind of tanks. Let your illusions dissipate. Don't underestimate the enemy. Or just remember which "trampoline" and in what time frame they made. With complete inaction on our part.
      2. +2
        4 January 2023 20: 24
        maybe these tanks are riveted under secret stamps
        ... but it doesn’t matter ... the main secret is energy hunger in the industry of the burghers ... and armor is worth a lot ... and with total gender, the steel industry is generally in collapse ... so ... carbon fiber and that’s all
        1. +2
          4 January 2023 21: 07
          Yes, what are you, and you know that there all the gas storages are filled for ordinary people, everything will rise in price, and for the release of weapons tanks, gas will be found, don’t worry, and oil! the main thing is that this would not happen, but we did not expect and did not know!
      3. -1
        4 January 2023 20: 55
        With all their desire, they will not be able to rivet them much, they do not have such opportunities now.
        1. +1
          4 January 2023 21: 32
          are you judging by the Russian Federation ?? or in the collective west? well that would be it! as they say it was good on paper but forgot about the ravines
    2. -3
      4 January 2023 20: 40
      Well, yes! We in Kubinka have not fired at them yet.
  7. +5
    4 January 2023 20: 20
    Does this Danilov think the Germans are completely idiots? If the Germans give all their weapons to Ukraine, then they won’t even be able to fight off the Poles when the Poles come to Germany in tanks for reparations ....
  8. 0
    4 January 2023 20: 20
    Wangyu that they will soon crush Germany and the tanks will go to Hohland.
    And since our intelligence cannot control the moment of crossing the border with Ukraine, the way columns with tanks went, so they will go. And no one will destroy them at the crossings and it will be a shame to look into the eyes of our fighters, who heroically destroy three tanks per direction per day, risking their lives.
    Why ashamed?
    But because the news will again say that more than a hundred tanks were delivered from Europe to the front. You have to act harder. By the way, we still cannot formulate what is the "red line" for us? Waiting for a blow to the Kremlin?
    1. -3
      4 January 2023 20: 31
      According to Rublyovka ... When it arrives, then it will itch ...
    2. LMN
      +2
      4 January 2023 20: 39
      By the way, we still cannot formulate what is the "red line" for us?


      Doesn't the beginning of hostilities, in fact, against 50 Western countries, indicate that the West has crossed the "red line"?
    3. -2
      4 January 2023 21: 58
      Quote: The collective farm is a voluntary business.
      Wangyu that they will soon crush Germany and the tanks will go to Hohland.

      They won't. They will pay off with money, dollars, euros and marks.
    4. -2
      4 January 2023 22: 22
      You have to act harder. By the way, we still cannot formulate what is the "red line" for us? Waiting for a blow to the Kremlin?
      First, there will be terrorist attacks against schools and hospitals. On the ruble and in the Kremlin, too good security.
    5. -1
      5 January 2023 00: 28
      You are deeply mistaken. Everything's under control. Everything is strategically correct. There is a systematic disarmament of NATO. As long as the supply channels are not blocked, they are forced to disarm and do this at a pace that prevents the non-brothers from gaining even a temporary strategic advantage. I think NATO members are already praying that we block these supply channels.
  9. -2
    4 January 2023 20: 23
    Whoever does not jump is that Muscovite. (

    My grandfather took Berlin ...
    Together with the Russians, and Tuvans,
    Belorussian, Ossetian..
    And he helped the Georgian ...
    And the Georgian grandfather saved ...
    And all together, with blood, then,
    With hundreds from each company,
    What remained in the ground,
    We have reached peace.
    1. +2
      4 January 2023 20: 29
      My grandfather took Berlin ...
      Together with the Russians, and Tuvans,
      Belorussian, Ossetian..
      And he helped the Georgian ...
      And the Georgian grandfather saved ...
      And all together, with blood, then,
      With hundreds from each company,
      What remained in the ground,
      We have reached peace.
      You betrayed your grandfathers and brothers. No need to attribute other people's victories to yourself, disrespectful.
    2. 0
      4 January 2023 22: 03
      Quote from Fangaro
      My grandfather took Berlin ...
      Together with the Russians, and Tuvans,
      Belorussian, Ossetian..
      And he helped the Georgian ...

      What language is this? Not Ukrainian for sure! --- Some kind of gibberish ... Hebrew? And Polish language ---- "The Polish army took Berlin, and helped radiatsko"
  10. +1
    4 January 2023 20: 23
    Well, yes, that was the case last time.
  11. +1
    4 January 2023 20: 25
    In the event that Germany refuses to transfer its Leopard tanks to Ukraine, it risks. This was stated by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov

    That is, we will come and take them ourselves. Tremble the Bundeswehr!
  12. -2
    4 January 2023 20: 28
    So many good girls...
    So many sweet names...
    The National Security and Defense Council also wants
    What would the Bundeswehr be like the National Security and Defense Council
  13. +4
    4 January 2023 20: 29
    Go nuts, the kroshumers became so insolent that they began to threaten Germany.
    And the Germans cowardly eat.
  14. +1
    4 January 2023 20: 30
    In the event that Germany refuses to transfer its Leopard tanks to Ukraine, it risks facing a war already on its own territory.
    . Prophet or fool??? In their case, there seems to be no difference.
    1. +1
      4 January 2023 21: 24
      Good time ! hi

      And then without options, the fruits ripen ...
      1. -1
        4 January 2023 21: 36
        Hi soldier
        There it already carries a rotten smell, more and more ... although, it was already fresh from the very beginning, it was not there.
  15. PPD
    +1
    4 January 2023 20: 32
    Audacity second happiness!
    It seems that the leadership of Ukraine is guided by this. Yes
  16. -1
    4 January 2023 20: 33
    If the Bundeswehr does not take part in the hostilities on the territory of Ukraine on the side of Ukraine, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine, like the Soviet Army during WWII, will come to Germany ...
    And ask for political asylum?
    1. -2
      4 January 2023 21: 17
      Quote from Fangaro
      The Armed Forces of Ukraine, like the Soviet Army during WWII, will come to Germany ...
      And ask for political asylum?

      No, the Armed Forces of Ukraine can come to Berlin as an integral part of the RF Armed Forces ...
  17. +1
    4 January 2023 20: 36
    They have an enchanting dope today belay goggles enemies not childishly
  18. 0
    4 January 2023 20: 41
    Hyenas felt the blood! First Poland, now Ukraine. Clearly, the Americans want to destroy the geyropy economy.
    1. -2
      4 January 2023 23: 16
      they want to set on the Russian Federation! Take cheap money from the Russian Federation by force! that’s all, everything passes through Ukraine, the Russian Federation won’t use nuclear weapons in Ukraine if the NATO troops dress up the APU and go, they set it up here, they didn’t understand, they looked at what happened, that’s all, all of Europe is already sending equipment to Ukraine!
  19. +1
    4 January 2023 20: 43
    A vivid example of the fact that the authorities in Ukraine are stupid, bullish raguli and seluche. They don't even know who and what they are talking about. They don't think about the consequences of their words. Therefore, these miscarriages must be protected and dust particles blown off. God forbid, smart ones will replace them.
  20. 0
    4 January 2023 21: 02
    A leopard is far from worth three euro cents. There is no interest in giving working tanks to just anyone. And I think that Scholz is afraid that after the transfer, military secrets will leave and all the weaknesses of these "kittens" will be revealed, and Germany will fall into the forced development of new tanks. They already have all their pockets out from helping Ukraine, and if you have to develop a new tank, you can stay without pants at all, or buy someone else's (American, of course). It’s easier not to tell anyone or show the weaknesses of your technique and sleep peacefully. Germany and so nothing threatens from the outside, this is understandable to the schoolboy. This is someone else's showdown for her.
  21. 0
    4 January 2023 21: 07
    Act like the whole world owes them
    1. -1
      4 January 2023 21: 31
      They are like little egoists, accustomed to this
    2. +2
      5 January 2023 01: 05
      Well, not the whole world, but only part of it. This is blackmail, naked and brazen, to which the Europeans react with their usual cowardice. The non-brothers simply cornered them at their own game. How? We are enemies for them, just enemies, and the Europeans, NATO members, are the ones who dragged them into this massacre, promised, urged, provided. As soon as they refuse to support the non-brothers, they will immediately face the sad prospect of getting huge problems from the crazy wards. And they will do anything, including a couple of explosions at nuclear power plants. The Starstripes are really great, yes, they couldn’t calculate us, but they decomposed the non-brothers into atoms and now they keep the whole of Europe in such tension, from which there is no way out.
  22. +1
    4 January 2023 21: 12
    The "poor" Germany, the Poles - reparations in the form of money, the "ancient Sumerians" - tanks ...
    This is how they can talk with the FRG only during the reign of the "liver sausage" ...
  23. 0
    4 January 2023 21: 23
    In the event that Germany refuses to transfer its Leopard tanks to Ukraine, it risks facing a war already on its own territory.


    Well, they sailed, or else there will be ...
  24. 0
    4 January 2023 21: 28
    "in the West they doubt the ability of the Ukrainian temporary", perhaps there are not so many abilities, but self-confidence is through the roof.
    The other day I read that Zelensky had already appointed a governor to the Kuban.
    It remains to publish the schedule. But still mountain crayfish is silent
  25. +1
    4 January 2023 21: 48
    The most belligerent vitirinar of the ruins chimes the most sausage-and-sausage chancellor of the Germans .... we eat popcorn, we watch the fight between an enema and a meat grinder!
  26. -1
    4 January 2023 21: 50
    Tanks are not fighting, tank divisions are fighting! That's how combat-ready tank formations are formed, and cats will be at the front, and until then, there will be enough Soviet ones, patched up three times, to knead the dirt in the gardens. The Germans, of course, became waffles, but not iiiidddiotammmm.
  27. -2
    4 January 2023 21: 50
    How everyone got tired of the hohland, it didn’t work out for our dependency to be fused, now they are waiting for us to destroy them. What tanks? Who will pay pensions to the Germans, you can’t print money now, inflation eats everything up.
  28. 0
    4 January 2023 22: 35
    what should modern Germany share with Russia if it ceases to be a puppet of the United States and follows Washington's lead

    For example, Poland.
  29. 0
    4 January 2023 23: 32
    The Germans are by no means fools, and the threats of a Ukrainian leader from politics are unlikely to frighten them. They are well aware that the modern Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are not able to repeat the feat of our fathers in 1945, they will not reach Berlin and they have nothing to fear. And the shameful conduct of the NMD by them can lead, at best, to freezing the conflict. Yes, and the Poles are behind the Ukrainians, in the second echelon, better organized, trained and armed. The old weapons junk and military equipment to be replaced may be given away for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Of course, not for free. Not for free!
  30. -2
    4 January 2023 23: 37
    Too bad the checkmate rules don't allow me to say who Danilov is.
    1. 0
      5 January 2023 14: 39
      Ukrotrolls have already given up. There are at least 2 of these here.
  31. -1
    4 January 2023 23: 40
    If neither the Germans, then others will hand over the tanks, they are already handing over so much, so there are no brakes for them and the red lines have long been crossed.
  32. -1
    5 January 2023 00: 04
    Sorry Germany. I hope one day there will be forces and a leader who will replace all the current government and start building healthy relations with Russia.
  33. -3
    5 January 2023 04: 25
    They don’t give them leopards, so they let all kinds of nonsense into the so-called telethon ....
  34. 0
    5 January 2023 04: 33
    The German has completely lost his self-respect. How their former Bandera serfs wipe their hooves on the master is simply extravaganza. The overseas gentleman said to endure, so the German endures. However, disgrace after disgrace. In the 20th century, Hitler, at 21 Biden, nicknamed dementia. Kirdyk of the German nation.
  35. 0
    5 January 2023 06: 10
    ...said Oleksiy Danilov, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine, speaking on the air of the Ukrainian telethon...

    Telethon??? In Ukraine??? With a veiled threat against Germany???
    And at the same time, 70 percent of Ukraine's energy in the trash???
  36. -1
    6 January 2023 03: 54
    According to a senior Ukrainian official, if German Chancellor Olaf Scholz wants Germany to fight in German tanks near Berlin and Stuttgart against Russian troops, he may continue to oppose the supply of tanks to Ukraine. In a boorish manner familiar to the current Kyiv regime, Danilov noted that Scholz could “continue this game” and “conduct sociological research” on the question of whether or not tanks should be transferred to Ukraine.

    - very rude pressure on the Germans, it is interesting to see what happens, we are waiting for an answer from Germany ....
  37. 0
    6 January 2023 15: 52
    There are no fresh Leopards in the tank museum in Kubinka yet, so they will be. laughing
  38. 0
    6 January 2023 19: 40
    When Scholz's wife is raped by Ukrainians, he will sit next to him and lament: "Don't worry, dear, it might still work out." Political rag..

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