American edition: Ukraine shoots down cheap drones with missiles that are 7-10 times more expensive

The air defense of Ukraine shoots down unmanned aerial vehicles that are involved in massive attacks on infrastructure facilities quite effectively. But from an economic point of view, this is very expensive, since the cost of missiles that shoot down drones, 7-10 times, or even more, higher than the cost of the drones. This is written by the American edition of The New York Times.

The cost of one UAV is about 20 thousand dollars, while one missile launch costs from 140 thousand dollars for the S-300 to 500 thousand dollars in the case of American NASAMS missiles (some sources report that such missiles generally cost about 1 million dollars).

Sometimes the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tries to use anti-aircraft guns and even small arms against UAV attacks. weapon. But at night, drones prefer to shoot down ground-based air defense missiles. So, in recent days, Ukraine has several times used NASAMS missiles against UAV attacks.

According to the American edition, the high cost of air defense missiles plays into the hands of Russia. After all, Ukraine incurs colossal costs to combat every attack of unmanned aerial vehicles, and they, in turn, can be used in unlimited quantities due to their low cost.

So far, the Kyiv regime enjoys generous funding from Western countries, primarily the United States, but everything can change at any moment. Drone attacks are depleting the arsenals of both Ukrainian air defense and air defense of Western countries. In addition, it is simply impossible to protect objects throughout the country with air defense systems with such expensive missiles.

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[tralflot1832]

Modern air defense systems are an expensive pleasure. Let representatives of the US military-industrial complex write a memo to the Armed Forces of Ukraine on what to shoot down and what not to shoot down.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: tralflot1832

Modern air defense systems are an expensive pleasure. Let representatives of the US military-industrial complex write a memo to the Armed Forces of Ukraine on what to shoot down and what not to shoot down.

So it is not Ukraine that pays, but the United States. If we take nasams, then there is no shortage of missiles, on the contrary, they are now being changed to Aim-120D, and early modifications need to be put somewhere.

[Sith]

There is no shortage, they are talking about the economic component of modern wars

Plane worth millions of dollars
Drops a bomb worth hundreds of thousands of dollars
On a barn worth hundreds of dollars

[Metallurg_2]

As long as dollars can be printed without restrictions, this is unlikely to have any negative consequences for the owner of the bomb and the aircraft.

[VicktorVR]

Barn covers oil fields worth millions again :)

[fruc]

Drone attacks are depleting the arsenals of both Ukrainian air defense and air defense of Western countries.

You can make it even easier: launch inflatable balloons with metal foil reflectors tied to them to increase the effective reflective surface of radio waves in the direction of the wind to Ukrainian positions (cities). With a wind speed of 40-100 km / h and a flight altitude of such balls of 4-6 thousand meters. The Nazis will not immediately understand what is attacking them and will spend their missile stock, or raise aircraft to intercept, where they can be shot down from a long distance.

[orionvitt]

Quote: frruc

launch inflatable balloons

You write nonsense. In our time, you can no longer deceive the enemy in such antiquated ways. Any air defense system perfectly determines the parameters of the target. And where do you find such a wind, 100 km / h, (30 meters per second) this is already a hurricane, my friend.

[low war]

Well done! Baby, such and similar tasks (specific "soldered", and no longer on lamps :)) blocks with any other "porridge" were calculated (yes, on the M-6000 - like a clone of the Hewlett Packard HP-2000 :) ~ in 1980. I don’t understand, is this Synthetic war, USE or spam? The "boy" is almost half a century behind, I advise him to learn from specialized channels in youtube and rutube ... And what's interesting! and on English-language technical sites. Here they are, real techies, sometimes I even envy them with the possibility of them and us (AliExpress) ... But for the Moscow Region there are TsNITI ...

[Argon]

The main thing is not to stop. Do not let them recharge and it will be even cheaper for us.

[topol717]

Quote: Argon

The main thing is not to stop. Do not let them recharge and it will be even cheaper for us.

In my opinion, this is not the right approach.
All equipment runs on gasoline and diesel fuel, and therefore, the nearest tank farm should be located in Poland or Moldova.

[private person]

Modern air defense systems are an expensive pleasure. Let representatives of the US military-industrial complex write a memo to the Armed Forces of Ukraine on what to shoot down and what not to shoot down.

So our missiles are also not cheap, and the interception of the same Hymers MLRS shells is expensive. But human life is priceless.

[Popandos]

Quote: tralflot1832

Modern air defense systems are an expensive pleasure ...

The main thing is that we are ready for such threats, the countries of NATO can establish the production of such drones very quickly, unfortunately, unlike us, and deliveries will go to Hohland in trains. How will we defend ourselves?

[Metallurg_2]

That's when it is already necessary to use nuclear weapons at junction stations and road junctions.

[Victor_B]

But from an economic point of view, this is very expensive, since the cost of missiles that shoot down drones is 7-10 times, or even more, higher than the cost of the drones themselves.

They compare not the cost of a drone and a rocket, but the cost of a rocket and the possible damage from a drone.
A penny drone destroys a 750 kV transformer, which costs MANY millions of dollars, and the damage from an undersupply of e / energy along this line is generally calculated in cosmic figures.
The delivery of a new transformer is its manufacture at the plant, the subsequent transportation of a multi-hundred-ton product and its installation. A lot of months in total!

[Rustic]

They compare not the cost of a drone and a rocket, but the cost of a rocket and the possible damage from a drone.
A penny drone destroys a 750KV transformer that costs MANY millions of dollars,

It can be counted as such. But then the question arises, how many missiles are ready to spend on protecting this transformer, provided that there are a lot of penny drones and they will be fired until the missiles run out. It’s like shooting down one drone with one missile and protecting the transformer seems to be profitable. How about shooting down ten drones with ten missiles? And fifty? Somehow, the same price of missiles becomes more expensive than the price of a transformer. With this approach, it may turn out that it is not worth shooting down at all. Since trance will be gouged sooner or later, and not at a high price. And without knocking down right away, at least they will save on missiles, moreover, it costs more than a transformer.

[Victor_B]

Quote from Rustic

But then the question arises, how many missiles are ready to spend on protecting this transformer, provided that there are a lot of penny drones and they will be fired until the missiles run out.

This is called the overflow of the air defense system.
It is solved by using cheaper air defense systems.
Today, Ukrainians are actively using MZA (small-caliber anti-aircraft artillery).
Make high mesh screens around substations.
Russian/Ukrainian Ivan is a lot of fiction!

[Vladimir80]

A penny drone destroys a 750 kV transformer

I don't think this has happened yet...

[Victor_B]

Quote: Vladimir80

I don't think this has happened yet...

It was!
TM-750 is destroyed.
For them, Iskander is a cheap drone!

[Vladimirovich_7]

What is money to them. The West is financed in full. Main result.

[EvilCommunist]

7-8 times more expensive than drones and 40-50 times more expensive than the life of the Armed Forces

[UAZ 452]

It is necessary to compare not only the cost of products, but also how much the belligerent (squaring) parties can afford it. As long as NATO aid goes on, Ukraine can afford such an exchange.

[YOUR]

The cost of one UAV is about 20 thousand dollars, while one missile launch costs from 140 thousand dollars for the S-300 to 500 thousand dollars in the case of American NASAMS missiles (some sources report that such missiles generally cost about 1 million dollars).

But from an economic point of view, this is very expensive, since the cost of missiles that shoot down drones is 7-10 times, or even more, higher than the cost of the drones themselves.

Perhaps more, much more. There is a video where, having heard and then seeing Geranium, they immediately launch 3 or even 5 MANPADS on it, and not a single target was captured, shot for good luck, and suddenly it will capture it in flight. Bad luck
As for the economic component. How much can this cheap drone do. The damage can amount to more than one million greenbacks.
This is such a modern war game.
From a $100 million plane, a $1 million rocket to a $10 tent

[Vladimir80]

From a $100 million plane, a $1 million rocket to a $10 tent

but you can report on the daily TV news!

[voyaka uh]

"a tent worth 10 dollars" ///
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If in a tent costing 10 dollars. several militants are sleeping, which can then cause millions of dollars of damage
(people's lives are valued in such amounts), then the raid justifies itself.

[YOUR]

Quote: voyaka uh

If in a tent costing 10 dollars. several militants are sleeping, which can then cause millions of dollars of damage

Here I am about the same.

[Leonidych]

Giving Ukrainians do not care how much these air defense missiles cost. At least a million apiece, they do not produce them for their own money. They demand and will continue to demand these missiles from the striped ones, because it is the Americans who are interested in the war in Ukraine.

[paul3390]

There is also the question of the consequences of interception .. After all, each complex trying to overwhelm a drone, firstly, glows like a Christmas tree, and secondly, it consumes ammunition .. And if you work correctly, then a more serious response should immediately fly through it. And there are few complexes and they cost mom don’t worry ..

Hence the conclusion - there is an urgent need for something specifically anti-drone, mobile, massive, and most importantly - as cheap as possible to use .. So that every bush stands. Moreover, to combat drones, the complex does not require any outrageous characteristics at all, as from the S-400 or S-500 ..

[Mitirofan]

Ukraine shoots down cheap drones with missiles that are 7-10 times more expensive

The owner overseas pays for everything..

[voyaka uh]

In Israel - the same price ratio. Iron Dome and Iranian Grads.
This is normal.
It is necessary to compare not with the price of an attacking missile, but with the price of the damage that it can bring.
Including loss of life, of course.

[Stirbjorn]

So it's the same on our side. Their drones are no more expensive than ours.

[sanik2020]

Every reasonable commander knows that war is primarily accounting and then everything else.
Only the price of weapons is not important to the Bandera people, they will still give everything anyway and do not be surprised if they shoot geraniums with a patriot.

[low war]

Moderators! ? Is this the Military Review or the Managers' club for the sale of shells?

Quote: sanik2020

Every reasonable commander knows that war is primarily accounting and then everything else.

Here's how you can miss such a stupid / stupid post ... It's a furry animal! (expressed without violating your rules). What is he carrying!? (sucks in). The soldier must count the cartridges, the tanker (the life of the tank is 2-5 minutes according to Soviet staff standards) count the shells, thinking that the wife of the chief editor of towar.ru will not go to the Canary Islands. and the moderator, damn it, will not pay the loan of his Korean car on time ... "reasonable commander" (what kind of Chubaisyatina!?) The commander is following the order! ...

[APASUS]

Ukraine uses expensive missiles against drones because there are not a limited number of them. The West understands that it cannot afford to lose in Ukraine and will supply it with any number of missiles

[Fitter65]

... from an economic point of view, this is very expensive, since the cost of missiles that shoot down drones is 7-10 times, or even more, higher than the cost of the drones themselves.

And this drone, which is 7-10 cheaper than an anti-aircraft missile, destroys an object that is a multiple of the cost of all this air defense system, which this inexpensive drone let through to the object, wanting to save on expensive missiles. So let's see what will be cheaper in the end?

[Vadim Topal Pasha]

And NYT is not to say that it blatantly lied to its readers, but somewhat distorts the picture ..
1. Not all drones crash. I said very softly! :)
2. Prices for drones and downing missiles differ by more than an order of magnitude.
3. "And the rest, beautiful marquise ..." (C) :)

[Sasha Koblov]

And you can make an even cheaper aircraft as a target.
The camera and transmitter to transmit the picture cost around $2000.
Pay enthusiasts $ 6000 AND THEY WILL CREATE YOU A DEVICE NO WORSE
industrial, and most importantly CHEAPER.
Because there will be no intermediaries who want to get rich in production.
Yes, they will not immediately produce many drones, but it all starts with small things.

[Incvizitor]

They will bring new missiles, especially since no one touches the logistics.

[Carlos Hall]

Let the Ukrainians spend Western resources while China continues to grow stronger.

[Andrey1966]

Well, we also do not shoot down their aggregates from slingshots. Only Ukrainians do not spend their money, but we spend ours.

[zenion]

This is specially shot in such a way that would ruin the planet. Then there will be nothing to launch nuclear weapons and they will be brought, in winter on sledges, in summer on oxen.