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Kombrig "Vostok" Khodakovsky: Some high-ranking commanders continue to think in terms of the times of the Soviet army

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Kombrig "Vostok" Khodakovsky: Some high-ranking commanders continue to think in terms of the times of the Soviet army

Some commanders of the Russian troops do not want to change their habitual way of life, transferring it to the zone of a special military operation, which leads to losses in personnel. This statement was made by the commander of the Vostok brigade, Alexander Khodakovsky, in his TG channel, commenting on the death of the Russian military in Makeevka.


According to Khodakovsky, who has been fighting since 2014, the problem of deploying personnel has not gone away, some high-ranking commanders continue to think in terms of the Soviet army, not taking into account that modern weapons systems allow strikes deep into the defense. The fact that the enemy would certainly strike at the location of the personnel in Makeevka was clear to everyone, except for those who placed them there.

Khodakovsky wonders why some Russian army commanders are reluctant to use the experience of the Donetsk and Lugansk militias gained since 2014, and at the expense of heavy losses. The DPR and LPR learned from their mistakes to fight the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the Russian generals, here we are not talking about everyone, for some reason chose to ignore the experience gained.

One thing is bad: the commanders also strive to minimize their responsibility and put themselves in a state of economy - there are few real violent ones, so there are no leaders ...

- wrote Khodakovsky

Earlier, the commander of the "Vostok" said that the enemy knows very well the location of the personnel of the Russian units. Decisions on the placement of the Russian military in the building of the Makeevsky vocational school were made in the rear, and not at the front line. Khodakovsky called the decision taken a betrayal and expressed regret that it was not possible to shoot those who made this decision.
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  1. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 4 January 2023 09: 44
    +42
    If the categories of the Soviet army. But alas, everything has long been optimized.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 4 January 2023 09: 47
      +25
      Earlier, the Vostok battalion commander said that the enemy knows very well the location of the personnel of the Russian units. Decisions on the placement of the Russian military in the building of the Makeevsky vocational school were made in the rear, and not at the front line. Khodakovsky called the decision taken a betrayal and expressed regret that it was not possible to shoot those who made this decision.

      I think so too!
      1. fruc
        fruc 4 January 2023 10: 00
        +49
        Tatyana
        I think so too!

        The placement of the Russian military in the building of the Makeevsky vocational school was taken in the rear, and not on the front line.

        I don’t think that anyone in the rear and large headquarters knows about some kind of Makeev bird. Most likely, the decision was made on the ground, in the Donetsk fortified area (or at its suggestion). As for the Soviet Army, such an illiterate decision would not have been made. There are no old and experienced officers, and young Russians suddenly decided to allow a feast on New Year's Eve, in an unprotected building at a distance from the enemy in a cannon shot. It's just idiotic.
        Still, I would like to see on TV how not only heroes are rewarded, but also how war criminals, thieves, marauders and slobs are brought to justice.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 4 January 2023 10: 06
          +13
          Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
          If the categories of the Soviet army. But alas, everything has long been optimized.

          The optimization of everything is the result of a purely bourgeois so-called. "market" ideology "at the top" in order to monetarize the country's economy (i.e., in pursuit of financial profits) not for the sake of improving the life of the people, as such, but for the sake of improving the life of government officials associated with the redistribution of the country's finances in their favor.
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          2. Sergey Samkov
            Sergey Samkov 4 January 2023 10: 42
            -7
            Probably the construction of roads, bridges, factories, ships, etc., maternity capital, the stable implementation of social payments - do you not take this into account? You probably don't remember Russian roads and the state of the economy in the 85s - 90s ... When half of the country stood in spontaneous markets on avenues in cities ... I remember.
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 4 January 2023 11: 00
              +8
              I would just move the dates. At the beginning of perestroika, approximately in 1985-1988, the economy was more or less normal, there was even a short-term improvement in indicators. Then the difficulties began to mount. But still, the maximum production volume for the entire existence of the USSR was in 1990. Then the decline began. And then the collapse of the Union. As for the roads, in my region their condition is better compared to both the late Soviet (and earlier) period, and the 90s. First of all, this concerns federal highways and regional roads. But there are problems with a number of road sections of intra-district and local significance. Although, in fairness, it is worth recognizing that, on average, the condition of local roads is still better than 20-40 years ago.
              1. Edward Vashchenko
                Edward Vashchenko 4 January 2023 11: 51
                +12
                Although, in fairness, it is worth recognizing that, on average, the condition of local roads is still better than 20-40 years ago.

                So under the USSR there were no iPhones laughing
                It is clear that during this time technology has jumped forward.
                And what about in New York, where all the streets are patched, the roads are better?
                And the vaunted German autobahn, compared to French expressways, is a country road. So what?
                The question is always in the complex development of the national economy, and not in individual branches.
                The USSR was a spaceship looking into the future, not a cart rolling back to the time of Alexander III.
            2. Edward Vashchenko
              Edward Vashchenko 4 January 2023 11: 23
              +10
              You don't remember Russian roads and the state of the economy in the 85s - 90s ... When half the country stood in spontaneous markets on avenues in cities ... I remember.

              Your memory is bad: in 1985-1989. no one stood in any markets, the roads were adequate for the 80s of the twentieth century, taking into account the country's huge expenditures on the armed forces and weapons, without which it would now be complete seams, after the restoration of the entire European part of the country, defeated during the Second World War, with this raised the level of culture and the material level of the country, which arrived in 1917 in late feudalism.
              Do not write nonsense: the GDP of the USSR in world GDP is 16-17%, the Russian Federation - 1,7, here is the result of thirty years of work in the Russian Federation.
              1. marswell
                marswell 4 January 2023 17: 41
                -4
                ...1985 -1989 no one stood in any markets ... that's for sure! We stood in long lines! Yeah, there was emptiness in the markets)))
                1. Lelik 56
                  Lelik 56 4 January 2023 18: 41
                  +6
                  I hear as a revelation that I stood in long queues in Yekaterinburg (Sverdlovsk) in the 70s and 80s. Apparently he was in a lethargic dream. Thank you for opening your eyes.
            3. ABC-schutze
              ABC-schutze 4 January 2023 12: 30
              +4
              Everything you mentioned is, first of all, not a "merit of the authorities", a direct consequence of the long-term and very favorable situation for the Russian fuel and energy complex and energy exports in foreign markets. Allowed to accumulate a fair amount of capital. Incl. and for the BELATED, especially not "overstraining" the budget, investments in the defense industry, the Armed Forces and the "social sphere" ...

              And it would be strange if the authorities, paying attention to their "ratings" and forced to "remember" that, according to the Constitution, Russia is a WELFARE state, neglected such an opportunity ...

              However, the RECENT and INSANE LOSS by the Russian authorities, located in the West and stolen from the PEOPLE and the Russian state, SOVEREIGN RESERVES (HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS ...), also accumulated as a result of the aforementioned, favorable conjuncture, is a consequence of the same short-sightedness of the authorities, akin to "relaxation" command, which led to the tragedy in Makiivka...

              But ABOUT THIS "merit" short-sighted in the placement of government assets, you, talking about maternity capital, roads, etc., for some reason "forgot" to mention ... But in vain ...
              1. marswell
                marswell 4 January 2023 17: 42
                -3
                You drown for your Germany - Russia is none of your business
                1. ABC-schutze
                  ABC-schutze 4 January 2023 21: 24
                  +1
                  Your comment is extremely "meaningful" ...

                  But I am already a grown boy and I am able to independently figure out what is my business (and why...) and what is not...

                  How to answer "advisers", what should I "do", where should they "go" ...

                  Now for the educational program...

                  The fuel and energy complex I mentioned, which allowed the Russian economy to get out of default, pay off its debts on loans and accumulate a fair amount of "reserve" for investments in the defense industry, the armed forces and the "social sector", this is a NATURAL result of the work of the Soviet, and not at all the post-Soviet Russian, especially not German economy...

                  I made it clear...
                  1. marswell
                    marswell 13 January 2023 18: 16
                    0
                    "So genau ist ein erwachsener Junge". The boy may be an adult, but apparently he didn’t understand where to poke his nose, and where not - once again teach better than your spiders)))
            4. Amper
              Amper 4 January 2023 15: 15
              0
              A remarkable feature has taken root in us, comparing today's VERY BAD with yesterday's VERY BAD! wassat Under this motto, they came to: the cruiser Moscow drowned, regrouping in Kherson, 1,5 million uniforms disappeared, the tragedy in Makeevka and so on ... But it could have been worse !!! belay request r / s Roads? Hm, what is it? what lol
            5. nickname7
              nickname7 5 January 2023 08: 06
              +2
              the state of the economy in the 85s - 90s ... When half the country stood in spontaneous markets on avenues in cities.

              It was calculated that in the "stagnation" of the 80s there was a 2.5% growth in the economy, if this "stagnation" had continued for 30 years, then today's economy would not have caught up with the 90s, but would have been 2.5 times larger, that's stagnation for you.
            6. akendram
              akendram 5 January 2023 18: 30
              +2
              In my city, the economy is still from the 90s, everything is mostly either taxi drivers or they sell everything they can to each other, there are no new enterprises, only ruins. But new roads, park reconstruction, bike paths, etc. But it's all a husk, the main thing is there is no normal work, no factories. My city is Mineralnye Vody, Stavropol Territory.
          3. topol717
            topol717 4 January 2023 12: 29
            -3
            Quote: Tatiana
            The optimization of everything is the result of a purely bourgeois so-called. "market" ideology "at the top" in order to monetarize the country's economy

            No need to look for a black cat in a black room.
            The officers simply did not think, because there was no command to think. No one thinks, they asked for a building for accommodation, they were shown a free one, they settled in. Think it's not about the military.
          4. zloybond
            zloybond 4 January 2023 13: 29
            0
            To be precise, inconsistency with the positions held and shoulder straps, not the desire to learn and take into account - everything is treated by demotion and removal from office.
          5. zenion
            zenion 4 January 2023 22: 49
            -2
            It is possible that they first contacted Ukraine and asked where to deploy troops, what would be convenient for them. Without advice from Ukraine, this would not have been thought of.
        2. mat-vey
          mat-vey 4 January 2023 10: 10
          +6
          Quote: frruc
          It's just idiotic.

          This is complete UNPROFESSIONALISM.
          1. fruc
            fruc 4 January 2023 10: 29
            +5
            mat-vey ... This is complete UNPROFESSIONALISM.

            You can say so + bordering on criminal negligence. This is a CC article.
          2. ABC-schutze
            ABC-schutze 4 January 2023 12: 41
            0
            And relax is everywhere. For now anyway...

            Across the "vertical" - from "lamps to stripes" ...

            Indeed, for the unacceptable presence of mobile phones among personnel and their MASS use by personnel, in the area of ​​​​combat operations, in the front line, responsibility is, FIRST OF ALL, not "generals" (on their conscience "accommodation" ...), but JUNIOR COMMANDERS , from the "dresser", to the "castle" and above ...

            It is in THEM, literally "in front of their noses", that subordinate banned mobile phones were used for "New Year's greetings" from the place of deployment ...

            So, despite the transition to a "professional" service, which will be twenty years old, a professional attitude to the actual organization of service and order, that is, unconditional and complete obedience to the requirements of military discipline, the personnel have absolutely not developed ...

            And it is not developed by "increasing official salaries" ...
        3. antivirus
          antivirus 4 January 2023 10: 19
          -1
          Is overexpenditure of shovels and berets a crime?
          You can't pay, you can save a lot for promotion not up to Lviv.
          We live in peacetime, there is no war!
          Its not a war. Failure outside the live firing range. And point.
          In May, lawyers could talk loudly about such a legal incident. They are silent. Not about indexes of the stock exchange and insurance. But how much did they talk about the legality of paid parking?
        4. Gvardeetz77
          Gvardeetz77 4 January 2023 10: 23
          +3
          As for the Soviet Army, such an illiterate decision would not have been made. There are no more old and experienced officers, and young Russians suddenly decided to allow a feast on New Year's Eve, in an unprotected building at a distance from the enemy in a cannon shot. It's just idiotic.

          The commander of this regiment is quite an old officer, still from the Union. If the development of military art bypassed the leaders in the service, then it is foolish to expect that those in the reserve studied all the new trends and live on the knowledge of the last century
          1. Senator Om
            Senator Om 4 January 2023 10: 36
            0
            The colonel finished school when the USSR collapsed.
          2. fruc
            fruc 4 January 2023 10: 45
            -1
            Gvardeetz77:.... The commander of this regiment is quite an old officer, still from the Union.

            Maybe he's from the Union. Is he mobilized? And if he is mobilized, does he have combat experience or did he serve in the Arbat fortified area? Did they come there to celebrate the New Year and send selfies from front-line Makeyevka? Recently, they fought with the Ukrainian Nazis and their air defense in South Ossetia and Abkhazia in 2008.
            1. Dingo
              Dingo 4 January 2023 12: 08
              +1
              Colonel Enikeev Roman. from those mobilized. Here is what the resource "Tsargrad" and "RT" writes about this (links below):
              https://ug.tsargrad.tv/articles/jeto-uzhe-drugaja-vojna-chto-oznachaet-udar-vsu-po-mobilizovannym-v-makeevke_697459

              https://russian.rt.com/russia/news/1093626-samara-traur-makeevka-voennosluzhaschie
          3. vovochkarzhevsky
            vovochkarzhevsky 4 January 2023 10: 59
            +2
            What old officers? 32 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR, even those who entered the school in 1991 are already in the reserve for the most part. Only in the generals and remained. And then, the same Surovikin served in the USSR for only 4 years.
            1. Gvardeetz77
              Gvardeetz77 4 January 2023 15: 52
              0
              Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
              What old officers? 32 years have passed since the collapse of the USSR, even those who entered the school in 1991 are already in the reserve for the most part. Only in the generals and remained. And then, the same Surovikin served in the USSR for only 4 years.

              Well, this commander is from the reserve, mobilized (or volunteer), studied and began to serve under the USSR, but this does not add to the mind.
          4. Edward Vashchenko
            Edward Vashchenko 4 January 2023 11: 33
            +3
            The commander of this regiment is quite an old officer, still from the Union.

            The union collapsed in 1991, Surovikin was a lieutenant in 1991, he can be sadly attributed to Soviet officers.
            The vast majority of them left the service at the latest in 2012. 90-95% of modern officer corps was formed in the Russian Federation in military institutions, in the conditions of optimization and the task of the army to fight terrorists.
            As for accommodation, this is not the 18th century: "packs, bars, rastabars, hussars came to us" - the commander of the regiment where to place was indicated by his command.
            1. vovochkarzhevsky
              vovochkarzhevsky 4 January 2023 12: 02
              +1
              The union collapsed in 1991, Surovikin was a lieutenant in 1991, he can be sadly attributed to Soviet officers.

              Basically a captain.
            2. Gvardeetz77
              Gvardeetz77 4 January 2023 15: 58
              0
              As for accommodation, this is not the 18th century: "packs, bars, rastabars, hussars came to us" - the commander of the regiment where to place was indicated by his command.

              The shelf indicates the location area, not the point. Even if a point is indicated, then upon arrival at the place the commander is obliged to assess the situation and report on the impossibility or insecurity of accommodation in it. And we, as always, "I have no complaints, suggestions and statements!".
              1. Sid2014
                Sid2014 5 January 2023 10: 28
                -1
                And in our country, the lower boss is afraid to report the truth to the top, but he will report it will become unacceptable and in his place there will be another with correct reports. And the first one needs to feed his family. And in US in medicine, education, etc., isn’t it so. And people are consumables, they never bothered anyone. So stop whining and wringing your hands. THIS IS OUR LIFE WE BUILT IT OURSELVES
                IT WILL BE!!! Belogorodka taught nothing, but Engels?
            3. flicker
              flicker 4 January 2023 21: 32
              +2
              the regiment commander where to be located was indicated by his command
              And who told the command?
              ---
              Previously, it happened like this: the responsible officer was instructed to find a suitable building for the temporary accommodation of personnel.
              An officer, even if he knows the city (and most likely does not know the city), cannot dispose of property in the city.
              That is why the officer turns to the city administration, the latter offer the appropriate premises. Let's say vocational school, GPTU, secondary school, etc. If, for example, an officer asks for 10 buildings for 30 people each, they may answer that they don’t have such a number of buildings, so here’s a vocational school, a vocational school or a sports complex for you to choose from (if there was such a choice).
              ---
              In short, the problems here are not so much with the officer, but with the city administration.
              By the way, for some reason it seems to me that if everything was located in the city administration building, then there would probably be no arrival.
              ---
              In short, the rats seem to be in the Donetsk administration.
              Ragozin was also given out by mobile calls or local rats?
              1. nickname7
                nickname7 5 January 2023 08: 26
                0
                In short, the problems here are not so much with the officer, but with the city administration.

                On the line of contact, you will also be placed in large buildings, ?
          5. your1970
            your1970 5 January 2023 14: 55
            0
            Quote: Gvardeetz77
            The commander of this regiment is quite himself from the old officers, still from the Union
            no way? Mammoth looks...
            So those who graduated from the school at the time of the collapse are already many pensioners.
            1. Gvardeetz77
              Gvardeetz77 5 January 2023 17: 22
              0
              Quote: your1970
              Quote: Gvardeetz77
              The commander of this regiment is quite himself from the old officers, still from the Union
              no way? Mammoth looks...
              So those who graduated from the school at the time of the collapse are already many pensioners.

              He was a pensioner, 57 years old, called up for mobilization. So yes, mammoth, but not extinct.
        5. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 4 January 2023 18: 58
          0
          Quote: frruc
          Still, I would like to see on TV how not only heroes are rewarded, but also how war criminals, thieves, marauders and slobs are brought to justice.

          I would like yes.
          In the yard, however, capitalism, in which all this is unreal
        6. Yaroslav Tekkel
          Yaroslav Tekkel 5 January 2023 23: 41
          0
          I used to think about why Soviet official historiography blamed the defeat of France on cowardly stupid ass-handed French people (World War I left the chat), only considering purely military issues on a tangential basis. And now I understand. Military history was supervised by the military. And they consciously or subconsciously felt their deep kinship with the mediocre and apathetic French generals of 1940. They felt that in a big war they themselves would perform no better. Therefore, they shifted the blame for the defeat from the generals to the people. Now they are already trying to do this trick with the Russian people. Already accused of stupidity and indiscipline (they called on mobile phones), give free rein - and they will accuse of cowardice (there are already timid attempts). Only the gentlemen generals themselves, of course, are not to blame for anything.
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      3. Luka Nord
        Luka Nord 4 January 2023 10: 08
        +12
        Quote: Tatiana
        I think so too!

        Me too Tatiana... hi In Chechnya, I remember that such setups were permanent .. The generals need to be cleaned, definitely, there are a lot of people sleeping there.
    2. Silver99
      Silver99 4 January 2023 09: 57
      +24
      The combat charter is written in blood (((but this is not for parquet generals, because to place 500 personnel in a building directly on the front line, in the reach of conventional artillery, this is not a mistake, but a CRIME, and this decision was made at the headquarters by the highest ranks in the rank of not lower than the general (((Eyewitnesses say that there were at least three packets of arrivals of "Hymars", and these are 18 missiles, they hit heaps at one point, therefore such destruction of the building ((((the spokesman spoke about four missiles, he is definitely a military "Himers" do not have such a huge warhead to lay down a building, it takes with accuracy of defeat, hits in one point and pierces. (((((((((((((
      1. vovochkarzhevsky
        vovochkarzhevsky 4 January 2023 10: 10
        +17
        The Soviet generals did not even bother with the topic of how to determine one or another battalion to wait. Their job is to determine the areas of defense, or offensive lines, for the entrusted units. And the deployment of personnel to wait is already a headache for both unit commanders and their subunits, including platoon commanders, from whom the responsibility for the dispersal of personnel actually begins.
        And for that matter, until every private understands that the problem of survival in a war zone depends not only on commanders, but also on himself, he is a suicide bomber.
        1. Silver99
          Silver99 4 January 2023 10: 16
          +4
          You still didn’t understand that this was not about deploying a platoon or even a company, there were much more (((((and no lieutenant will decide to occupy an empty building, this is at least agreed with the local administration, especially since the recruits have not yet been distributed by divisions, it was a collection point (((((
          1. vovochkarzhevsky
            vovochkarzhevsky 4 January 2023 11: 06
            +1
            Are you sure you have all the information? I'm not here. However, the fact that everyone himself must first of all take care of his own safety does not cancel.
            What, in such a crowd there were no sane people who understood that cellular communication in the frontline zone is like a target mark? Of course, they were found, but there is no doubt that they were unanimously sent by the majority.
        2. Dingo
          Dingo 4 January 2023 12: 11
          +1
          Eh ... Yes, colonels do not command companies and battalions!
      2. Hermit21
        Hermit21 4 January 2023 10: 45
        +3
        It seemed to me that the commander of this very battalion was responsible for the deployment of the l / s battalion. But it turns out that some abstract spherical general in a vacuum should take care of this. Go, the General Staff and Shoigu should decide who and where to place?
        1. Qas
          Qas 5 January 2023 15: 00
          0
          If some enterprise does not work properly, first of all they ask the director, and not the head of the shop. Why isn't it right here? Why "the captain of the ship is not responsible for the state of the ship"?
      3. old
        old 4 January 2023 12: 48
        0
        How much they talked about the tricks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine before the holidays and now (((((((((((((((((((((((((((

        The Armed Forces of Ukraine do not even need to invent anything - our military leaders did everything for them.
      4. nickname7
        nickname7 5 January 2023 08: 29
        +2
        the "Himers" do not have such a huge warhead to fold the building

        They write that in this vocational school they also stored ammunition, which detonated.
        Armored vehicles were also stationed near the building.
    3. chebman
      chebman 4 January 2023 10: 06
      -1
      Here, apparently, the well-known statement "do not care about losses, women still give birth" was meant.
      1. Nikolay310
        Nikolay310 4 January 2023 10: 13
        0
        known to whom "statement" ??? this "statement" is known only by the fact that they are attributed to certain figures ... but there are no facts of this "statement" from the lips of these figures ... and the phrase itself is taken from a movie about Peter the Great, that is, it is fiction ...

        as they say in another "famous statement" that has never been stated: "Ivashki need to be fooled" ... and some of the willows managed to be fooled quite well
        1. Himalayan
          Himalayan 4 January 2023 10: 16
          +3
          You understand, if you and 12 of your friends were to clear a village of 100 houses, where there are 6 active, ready-for-All gangsters of the organized criminal group?

          What do you think, if they were born there and everyone knows about everyone, can they use the locals as accomplices and even attract them as militants???

          Of course yes ! And if you understand that their connection is better and everything on the video is controlled, and every inhabitant will be killed for aiding the oceanpant ???

          Only they also adopted the Laws, and this is not just an organized criminal group, but a State into which the economy is being thrown, where under 1 billion of the population !!! Sea of ​​​​money, technology - an order of magnitude stronger

          How would you start fighting with this gang? Deliver dry rations to intimidated villagers? And they know that everyone sees everything and the night will be. ..


          Khodakovsky was with Akhmetov...
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 4 January 2023 11: 19
        0
        Quote: chebman
        "I don't care about losses, women still give birth."

        This is Chubais's saying about 30 million, which "will not fit into the market."
        1. Wizzzard
          Wizzzard 5 January 2023 18: 39
          0
          As for "they are still giving birth" - this is not Chubais. These words are stubbornly attributed to Zhukov, although he never said this (there is no evidence or witnesses). But "they won't fit into the market" - yes, this is the Red Devil.
    4. StarWarrior
      StarWarrior 5 January 2023 12: 43
      0
      It was precisely the categories of the Soviet era that created the iron discipline in the Red Army, prevented its collapse in the difficult years of 1941-1942.
      I advise everyone to compare Soviet military discipline with the current worthless Russian - just compare chapter 12 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1960 (articles 237 - 269) with chapter 33 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation of 1996 (articles 331 - 352.1) and everything will become clear to you why and why.
      1. Himalayan
        Himalayan 5 January 2023 13: 05
        -1
        I can assume that those who were advised that place in the settlement are a little lifeless.

        But Who advised ... They may be from the locals. And, like, "specialists". Tycho Hoda and his people
        This is, in fact, diversion!
  2. YOUR
    YOUR 4 January 2023 09: 46
    +14
    Here is your answer. Clear weighted and explaining everything. And not like this - they themselves are to blame with their smartphones.
    1. Dmitry Zadorozhniy
      Dmitry Zadorozhniy 4 January 2023 09: 55
      +17
      With smartphones, the same "fathers commanders" screwed up. Kind of banned. You clearly explain how it ends. The guys in the DPR and LPR understood this from their own experience. No mobile phones, no fitness bracelets and smart watches.
    2. YOUR
      YOUR 4 January 2023 09: 59
      0
      The strike was made at approximately 00:01 on January 1, 2023. That is, right after the new year.
      A total of 3 missile packages were fired, i.e. 18 pieces. Not one was hit


      There's also a photo here. All in fine rubble
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 4 January 2023 10: 29
        +4
        Didn't attach the link

        https://proslo.ru/udar-iz-himars-po-mobilizovannym-v-ptu-v-makeevke/?_utl_t=ok
        1. Shket53
          Shket53 4 January 2023 10: 52
          -1
          For this, which is "YOUR" ... and you are just crazy about this link ..... and "OUR" are you at all
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 4 January 2023 13: 08
            +1
            Andryusha, something is wrong with your head. If you want to offend someone, let's bully the gopniks into the street. Here, with rare exceptions (Shket53 (Andrey), normal people communicate. Good luck to you in your difficult life as a provocateur.
    3. paul3390
      paul3390 4 January 2023 10: 57
      0
      themselves to blame with their smartphones

      And why does mobile communication still work in a war zone? what
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 4 January 2023 13: 15
        +1
        It shouldn't work, it shouldn't. Then, for the same saboteurs, spouyonov, if you like raspberries, he pressed the button and tinkled to the other side. They write that the Ukrainians reconnoitered with the help of some kind of electronic warfare. We don't have one? If cellular communication is working, what can't they detect places where the largest number of cellular phones are shining?
  3. StarWarrior
    StarWarrior 4 January 2023 09: 46
    -6
    Comrades!

    It is no longer possible to tolerate this systematic criminal sloppiness, the criminal negligence of the command of the RF Armed Forces with optimized chicken brains!

    Let's all together write a collective appeal to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Putin with a demand to urgently restore capital punishment in the Constitution of the Russian Federation and in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation - the death penalty for all grave and especially grave crimes: treason, premeditated murder, embezzlement on a large scale, sabotage , sabotage, sabotage, terrorist attacks, drug trafficking, pedophilia, pederasty, and for military crimes and its active use by the military courts of the Russian Federation.

    Disciplinary measures in time of war must be in accordance with wartime.

    Otherwise, our country will lose control in wartime, and our army will face collapse, defeat and riots mobilized due to the complete lack of discipline, responsibility and professionalism of commanders.
    1. Vyacheslav57
      Vyacheslav57 4 January 2023 10: 03
      0
      It is no longer possible to tolerate this systematic criminal sloppiness, the criminal negligence of the command of the RF Armed Forces with optimized chicken brains!

      Why are you so nervous, en masse the entire command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation wrote down as enemies, and even calls for their execution.
      Otherwise, our country will lose control in wartime, and our army will face collapse, defeat and riots mobilized due to the complete lack of discipline, responsibility and professionalism of commanders.

      Why don't you agree? And you need to be in command.
    2. Esso
      Esso 4 January 2023 10: 09
      +5
      I'll tell you this, the idea is not bad, but now in the Ministry of Defense they are feverishly thinking of whom to give to be eaten. The responsible person is shielded. For it is more important, even if it mows.
    3. Deon59
      Deon59 4 January 2023 10: 28
      +3
      Putin will simply answer that this does not happen. Everything was reported to him well.
    4. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 January 2023 11: 12
      +1
      This photo is clearly a reconstruction. We had a teacher of civil defense at the university, who during the war was a member of the military tribunal. According to his stories, executions were carried out at a previously dug ditch. The condemned were on their knees, facing the ditch, they were shot in the back of the head.
      1. your1970
        your1970 5 January 2023 15: 07
        0
        Quote: Sergej1972
        who during the war was a member of the military tribunal.

        Quote: Sergej1972
        According to his stories, executions were carried out at a previously dug ditch.

        He lied to you like a gray gelding - no one dug or buried any ditches for the sake of traitors / traitors. Woods or ravines - no more ...
  4. fruc
    fruc 4 January 2023 09: 49
    +9
    Khodakovsky called the decision taken a betrayal and expressed regret that it was not possible to shoot those who made this decision.

    Betrayal or not betrayal will be sorted out by the military prosecutor's office and counterintelligence agencies. Definitely, at the time of the arrival of personnel and equipment in Makeevka, the enemy knew about it instantly. The city is flooded with agents. As for those responsible for the placement and who made this decision, they must go to court (martial tribunal)
    1. papas-57
      papas-57 4 January 2023 09: 55
      +6
      Why are they not jamming cellular communications in the frontline zone? The simplest way to convey fresh information to the enemy.
      1. fruc
        fruc 4 January 2023 11: 01
        +3
        papas-57:... Why don't they jam cellular communications in the frontline zone?

        I believe that they are sitting there not only with cellular communications, but also satellite and undercover. There, the counterintelligence and electronic warfare agencies have a lot of work to do.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 4 January 2023 11: 13
      +1
      Makiivka has always seemed to be pro-Russian, and since 2014 it has been under the control of the DPR.
      1. fruc
        fruc 4 January 2023 12: 17
        +2
        Sergej1972 .... Makeevka has always seemed to be pro-Russian, and since 2014 it has been under the control of the DPR.

        Donetsk and Luhansk are also under control. However, moles work there, that's for sure. Even from the city of Vladivostok, information was sent over the Internet to the SBU regarding the defense capability of Russia. Some work for ideological reasons, others for money, and there are those who work directly for the Pentagon and MI6.
  5. Kuziming
    Kuziming 4 January 2023 09: 51
    +15
    This was not taught.
    This is a new kind of war. The accuracy and range of weapons reached a new level.
    Once upon a time, soldiers fought in columns, then chains appeared, then small groups.
    At first they fought in colored uniforms, then khaki appeared, then camouflage.
    Now the requirements for dispersal and camouflage have increased once again.
    This is a war of new technologies, and it is hardly possible to win it by the old methods.
    A blunt increase in the number of troops will lead to a greater concentration of both men and supplies.
    And this will lead to an increase in losses without increasing efficiency.

    Once again: linear saturation with quantity will give an increase in losses in the square, and the increase in the occupied territory will be the same as now.

    Therefore, they themselves must learn from those who have gained experience.

    But this does not guarantee victory.

    To win this type of war, a breakthrough is needed in the means of reconnaissance and destruction from a distance.
    It is necessary to knock out air defenses and launchers, improve reconnaissance and delivery systems.

    To win, you need a weapon of victory.
    And the weapons are forged in the rear.
    1. Nikolay310
      Nikolay310 4 January 2023 10: 18
      +2
      Quote from Kuziming
      This was not taught.


      sorry, such an excuse could have failed when the columns near Kyiv were defeated (which, of course, were not) ... today is not February 25th and not April 2nd to justify such childish babble ... who, at the end of the first year of the SVOina, is not in able to learn from the mistakes of others, there is NOTHING to do on the front line ... if the army loses one stupid lieutenant colonel, nothing bad will happen ... but losing an infantry company at least is already a crime
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 4 January 2023 11: 17
        +2
        There, near Kyiv, a significant part was made up of detachments of the Russian Guard, including SOBR and OMON. These are well-trained guys, but their training is still specific. Plus, they did not have heavy weapons. True, the losses of the National Guard were minimal.
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 4 January 2023 09: 51
    -2
    the brigade commander of Vostok stated that the enemy knows perfectly well the locations of the personnel of the Russian units. Decisions on the placement of the Russian military in the building of the Makeevsky vocational school were made in the rear, and not at the front line. Khodakovsky called the decision taken a betrayal and expressed regret that it was not possible to shoot those who made this decision.

    Because this is not a war, but an NWO with an incomprehensible status. Either give the NWO full legal transparency, or declare war.
    1. SaLaR
      SaLaR 4 January 2023 09: 59
      +14
      OK then. From tomorrow we declare that this is war. And what will change in the trenches? Warriors, secure means of communication, aromas, kurgans appear. Soldiers will no longer be placed in vocational schools, generals will immediately become the second Rokosovskys, all chimeras will be destroyed in a day, Russian reconnaissance satellites will fill the sky? Nothing will change
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 4 January 2023 10: 07
        0
        Quote: SaLaR
        OK then. From tomorrow we declare that this is war. And what will change in the trenches? Warriors, secure means of communication, aromas, kurgans appear. Soldiers will no longer be placed in vocational schools, generals will immediately become the second Rokosovskys, all chimeras will be destroyed in a day, Russian reconnaissance satellites will fill the sky? Nothing will change

        According to the laws of wartime, directors can be put up against the wall for such tricks, but now it’s peacetime and you can get away with everything
        The repair plant needed by the front went under the hammer for metal
        https://topwar.ru/207987-remontnyj-zavod-nuzhnyj-frontu-ushel-s-molotka-na-metall.html
        1. Nikolay310
          Nikolay310 4 January 2023 10: 21
          +4
          But what about the director? under capitalism, the director is a hired employee. determines the future of the plant (factory or company) by its owner, who often finds it more profitable to sell machines for scrap than to engage in production
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 4 January 2023 11: 20
            0
            Sometimes, before putting in new purchased machines, old ones that have completely exhausted their resources are really more profitable to hand over for metal.
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 4 January 2023 11: 32
            0
            Quote: Nikolay310
            But what about the director? under capitalism, the director is a hired employee. determines the future of the plant (factory or company) its owner,

            The director or owner is not particularly important who allowed the disruption of the defense order. Any action directed against the military order was perceived as treason, with all the consequences
        2. your1970
          your1970 5 January 2023 15: 28
          -1
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: SaLaR
          OK then. From tomorrow we declare that this is war. And what will change in the trenches? Warriors, secure means of communication, aromas, kurgans appear. Soldiers will no longer be placed in vocational schools, generals will immediately become the second Rokosovskys, all chimeras will be destroyed in a day, Russian reconnaissance satellites will fill the sky? Nothing will change

          According to the laws of wartime, directors can be put up against the wall for such tricks, but now it’s peacetime and you can get away with everything
          The repair plant needed by the front went under the hammer for metal
          https://topwar.ru/207987-remontnyj-zavod-nuzhnyj-frontu-ushel-s-molotka-na-metall.html

          The problem is that, according to the laws of wartime, not only the directors, but also the editors of VO would be shot together with the author of the article - for the disclosure of "Soviet secret" information.
          And the fact that 3/4 of the commentators would receive 10 years without the right to correspond for anti-government agitation is not even discussed ...
      2. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 4 January 2023 12: 48
        +1
        Then there will be a legal basis to use ammunition from special warheads for stealing
    2. Kornily
      Kornily 4 January 2023 13: 05
      0
      As soon as ANY country declares the legal term "war", international restrictions on everything immediately automatically work. Therefore, special operations or other statuses are everywhere.
  7. nellyjuri
    nellyjuri 4 January 2023 09: 55
    -2
    I have a question for the editors. And why do you constantly quote this loser strategist? Mr Khodakovsky? Do you have a personal interest in him? Or does he have huge powers in power, like our president, and we just have to all listen to him as if he were the very first instance? Or is he the most truthful military commander who constantly spends on the front line and communicates with soldiers and officers, including senior ones? No. He is not a military commissar, to whom I respectfully listen, and whose criticism comes from the heart, he is not a senior officer, behind whom there are real hostilities in Syria, in Chechnya, and so on, and it seems that Khodakovsky is not even an average officer corps - so amateur. And not just an amateur, he is making a name for himself in today's tragedy. Makes capital for the future. Reminds Yeltsin, who at first screamed and beat his chest - I'm an honest communist, and then suddenly came to the conclusion that Russia must be saved through the collapse of Russia, and began to criticize everything and everyone, exposing himself as the only smart and honest patriot, and then led Russia to disaster.

    Not this, not the other, not the third. From all of the above. Khodakovsky, he is like Pushkin's - half-commander, half-civilian, half-military commissar, half-talk. A semi-provocateur, but in general such people should be silent so as not to be complete.
    1. Nikolay310
      Nikolay310 4 January 2023 10: 23
      0
      if memory serves, it was Khodakovsky who, during the storming of the Donetsk airport, managed to mediocrely lose a bunch of his soldiers ... I wonder why he didn’t shoot himself for that event? Or does he think he can?
      1. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 4 January 2023 21: 40
        -1
        Because Khodakovsky is an experienced, combat commander, who knows the enemy and the situation in the theater very well. A commander with NINE YEARS of experience in REAL and INTENSE combat operations, and not experience in "conducting exercises" ...

        By the way, during the assault on the Donetsk airport, Khodarkovsky's militia was opposed by the REGULAR formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which occupied WELL FORTIFIED, deepened defensive positions.

        By the way, not much inferior to the defensive positions of "Azov" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of "Azovstal" in Mariupol ...

        So, the DPR militia and regular Russian troops, Azovstal is much faster, did they take it? ..

        Khodorkovsky is quoted and referred to because he is right ... True, for many skygazers-cap-throwers from among the "planners" of the NWO, they are "uncomfortably" right ...
        1. your1970
          your1970 5 January 2023 15: 44
          0
          Quote: ABC-schütze
          the time of the assault on the Donetsk airport,
          58 hectare
          Quote: ABC-schütze
          not much inferior to the defensive positions of "Azov" and the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of "Azovstal" in Mariupol ..
          1608 hectare
          Can you calculate the ratio of 58 to 1608 yourself?
          About the fact that the walls and foundations of Azov became a little stronger than the walls of 2,5 bricks of the airport - you can’t even discuss
  8. O. Bender
    O. Bender 4 January 2023 09: 56
    +1
    The adoption of such a decision, about placing where a fairly large number is slander to the tenth degree, and even at a distance of no more than 15 km from the front end. I hope the debriefing will determine the perpetrators and those involved. the process of parsing blockages. It's sad.
  9. alexeyzezin
    alexeyzezin 4 January 2023 10: 00
    0
    Impunity, that's the reason for such decisions. Another problem is that the army is still led by Soviet officers who are far from being young. They cannot and do not want to understand that time does not stand still, that warriors change. Young officers should be promoted to general positions, and not these old men should be kept in command of the army. They are simply physically and biologically incapable of waging modern wars.
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 4 January 2023 10: 06
      +3
      Excuse me, but who trains young officers? Are not those Soviet old men? How can they get young experience? It is not a matter of youth or old age, and not the understanding of the majority that there is a war going on.
      1. vovochkarzhevsky
        vovochkarzhevsky 4 January 2023 12: 06
        -2
        What are the Soviet old men? Inquire at your leisure how many Soviet officers were transferred to the reserve ahead of schedule.
    2. Deon59
      Deon59 4 January 2023 10: 38
      +8
      And what does the Soviet officers have to do with it. The USSR left in 1991. And during this time we have had two Chechen wars, the war in South Ossetia, the war in Syria, and the NVO has been going on for 10 months. And if we haven’t learned anything in 30 years, this is the fault of the USSR . I am a Soviet and Russian officer, in the reserve, I communicate via VUS, but there is preparation for the actions of infantry units, and when they show how the Russian army is fighting on a zombie box, I am upset. Such stupid military leaders should be looked for in Ward number 6.
  10. Dane
    Dane 4 January 2023 10: 09
    +8
    Quote: O. Bender
    The adoption of such a decision, about placing where a fairly large number is slander to the tenth degree, and even at a distance of no more than 15 km from the front end. I hope the debriefing will determine the perpetrators and those involved. the process of parsing blockages. It's sad.


    Have you heard that those involved in the jambs would be punished, severely punished, and not transferred to another position in another place? I'm not ...... here and now of. Information from the Ministry of Defense: the missile attack was made possible due to the use of mobile phones in this place ...... that is, the fault of the mobilized themselves ....
    1. Andrey Karpov
      Andrey Karpov 4 January 2023 10: 22
      +4
      Yes, in general, PPC, everyone was blamed on the mobilized. yeah. as if the commanders did not have the opportunity to take away any means of communication from everyone ??? I will not believe. which means either negligence or sabotage
      1. your1970
        your1970 5 January 2023 16: 23
        0
        Quote: Andrey Karpov
        as if the commanders did not have the opportunity to take away any means of communication from everyone ???

        Yeah, yeah .... and then the hysteria on the Internet "Gadish commanders took away MYSELF all phones!!!
        Already been ...
        I know 4 of our mobilized - when they called for them, they bought uniforms for themselves. In part, they were offered several times to change into military clothes and send home - 2 changed clothes because they bought rubbish, and two remained in their own. The command was tired of the constant "They take away their uniforms to sell !!" - and it told them "Walk in whatever you want! - got your slander !!"
  11. AlexWar
    AlexWar 4 January 2023 10: 18
    +2
    Of course, they don't think the way they want. For example, why the bridges across the Dnieper were not blown up. There are drones that can fly under the bridge support. Having blown up the bridges, it was possible to launch an offensive along the Dnieper line, taking a huge army of Ukraine into an environment, no one would supply them with weapons. They will have nowhere to run.
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 4 January 2023 12: 49
      0
      It's just that some still want to beg for an indulgence in the West and return their frozen assets.
    2. your1970
      your1970 5 January 2023 16: 25
      0
      Quote from Alexwar
      There are drones that can fly under the bridge support.

      The make and model can be - which a couple of tons (!!) of explosives can be dragged to the support?
  12. opposite28
    opposite28 4 January 2023 10: 21
    0
    Some commanders of the Russian troops do not want to change their habitual way of life, transferring it to the zone of a special military operation, which leads to losses in personnel. This statement was made by the commander of the Vostok brigade, Alexander Khodakovsky, in his TG channel, commenting on the death of the Russian military in Makeevka.
    One thing is bad: the commanders also strive to minimize their responsibility and put themselves in a state of economy - there are few real violent ones, so there are no leaders ...

    - wrote Khodakovsky
    The war in your head should not be transferred to society that has nothing to do with it ...
  13. AlexWar
    AlexWar 4 January 2023 10: 21
    0
    We need to go back to the original plan. As planned, either completely cut off Ukraine from the supply of weapons, take everyone prisoner and put them in prison for a long time later. Hold a vote and the Lviv region will become part of Russia
  14. AlexWar
    AlexWar 4 January 2023 10: 24
    0
    Artemovsk has been turned into Stalingrad, a struggle for every house. They won the way they encircled the Paulus grouping. Take any battle of the Great Patriotic War, to win you don’t have to fight head-on, you need a breakthrough behind enemy lines.
    They have enough weapons for a couple of weeks in this environment.
    It is necessary to open a second front in Bularus and go to the border of Poland.
    There, tons of weapons go through Lvov.
    I still think that the best solution is to blow up the bridges across the Dnieper. And launch an attack along the banks of the Dnieper
    Was it also not possible to throw out troops to mine bridges?
    A package of Iskanders, too, won't it do anything to the bridge?
    Anyway, I watched an interview with a tanker, he said they need more calibers. 152 mm guns should be put in tanks.
    Good hymers are loaded with bearings, why, for example, don’t put balls into the warhead and explode over the surface?
    1. nickname7
      nickname7 5 January 2023 08: 55
      0
      It is necessary to open a second front in Bularus

      It's too late, they created a layered defense no worse than Artemovsk.
      The February blitzkrieg was correct, then they managed to capture a lot, but there it was necessary to deploy defenses, dig trenches, dugouts and pillboxes, create civil military administrations and begin mobilization in February, which they did not want to start, but in the end they had to, while they thought time was lost.
      The drivers are kind of slow...
  15. Million
    Million 4 January 2023 10: 28
    +2
    The current generals are fighting from their offices.
    1. Egeny
      Egeny 4 January 2023 12: 00
      -2
      Quote: Million
      The current generals are fighting from their offices.

      Were you there as an adviser?
    2. Egeny
      Egeny 4 January 2023 12: 40
      -3
      What, Vlad, did not like?
      Me your insinuations too.)
    3. Egeny
      Egeny 4 January 2023 21: 39
      0
      Oh, you are a radish, Vlad. How much do they pay you, snot boy?
      Here, damn it, you also rose to the rank of lieutenant in VO, and I thought that such people did not deserve a promotion.) I remember you, millennium,.
    4. your1970
      your1970 5 January 2023 16: 27
      0
      Quote: Million
      The current generals are fighting from their offices.

      Grandfather since May 1941 along the Kursk Bulge (commissioned) - he has never seen anyone older than the regiment commander on the front line.
  16. opposite28
    opposite28 4 January 2023 10: 34
    0
    One thing is bad: the commanders also strive to minimize their responsibility and put themselves in a state of economy - there are few real violent ones, so there are no leaders ...

    - wrote Khodakovsky
    That is why combat experience is invaluable, as well as knowledge gained in higher educational institutions of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The good news is that in the Donbass region there are an abundance of "violent leaders", like nuggets in a gold mine, there is nowhere to put a sample ...
  17. AlexWar
    AlexWar 4 January 2023 10: 40
    +5
    The main question is why we stand!!! We are not rushing around anywhere. Or do we have no generals who knew how to fight?
    All attacks come with a platoon and a couple of tanks. Up to 80% of the military sit in the trenches doing nothing. So I heard they told me that they did not even see the enemy. There is shooting here and there.
    They tell us it's a pity for people, but why isn't it so pity that they die without even shooting?
  18. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 4 January 2023 10: 49
    +3
    According to Khodakovsky, who has been fighting since 2014,
    And what categories did he follow when he burned down our KAMAZ with the wounded in 2014? There is a suspicion. that now he is in the position of Strelkov-Girkin, that is, he does not command anyone, only advises.
  19. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 4 January 2023 10: 50
    +2
    If the categories of the Soviet army were used, then the territories of Ukraine that we do not need would be turned into a Wild Field, where Ze and his relatives would sprinkle radioactive ash on his head (if on the 25th he would still be alive).
  20. lambert
    lambert 4 January 2023 10: 55
    +5
    Quote: Gvardeetz77
    As for the Soviet Army, such an illiterate decision would not have been made. There are no more old and experienced officers, and young Russians suddenly decided to allow a feast on New Year's Eve, in an unprotected building at a distance from the enemy in a cannon shot. It's just idiotic.

    The commander of this regiment is quite an old officer, still from the Union. If the development of military art bypassed the leaders in the service, then it is foolish to expect that those in the reserve studied all the new trends and live on the knowledge of the last century


    Alas, lieutenant colonels (colonels) of the reserve are not called up, therefore, of the employees who have now entered in 1991 plus 30 years, the last left in 2021. So there is no one to ask from Soviet officers. They simply don't exist. It's time to remember the winged words of Taburetkin - I will rid the army of Soviet officers.
    so not relevant.
  21. vvn_vl
    vvn_vl 4 January 2023 11: 06
    0
    these are not commanders, but military-party managers ... real commanders must be educated and taught, and in order to go through the entire ladder, and not jump
  22. Yapet100
    Yapet100 4 January 2023 11: 07
    +1
    And no one, as usual with us, will not be punished.
  23. Egeny
    Egeny 4 January 2023 11: 50
    -1
    Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
    USSR GDP in world GDP 16-17%, RF - 1,7

    Eduard, your memory is no better: the Union included 15 republics with their own gross product, the total of which was 16-17% of the union, and in Russia there was only one GDP.)
    And we still manage to feed the remaining 14, including the outskirts.
  24. Egeny
    Egeny 4 January 2023 11: 53
    0
    Quote: Aviator_
    burned our KAMAZ with the wounded in 2014

    Hello, where and when. I haven't heard of this, please provide a link.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 4 January 2023 12: 38
      +1
      This was written in 2014 by Boris Rozhin (colonelcassad) and not only him. Look in his archive, I think that this is not out of malice, but because of the inevitable mess. And now his advice on how to fight is beginning to annoy. Only a person who is left out of work can afford it. it looks like it is. Soon he will surpass Girkin in his "useful advice".
    2. igork735
      igork735 4 January 2023 12: 47
      +1
      "... the storming of the Donetsk airport on May 26.05.2014, 50, as a result of which more than XNUMX militiamen were killed (not counting the losses of the deblocking detachments), most of which were volunteers from the Russian Federation. This fact has already received official recognition from the leadership of the DPR, so hide it, including the presence of Russian volunteers makes no sense.
      This operation can be considered the most disastrous of all carried out by the DPR militias, both in terms of the results achieved and in terms of the losses incurred. The next clash, which was led and planned by Khodakovsky, was the battle near the checkpoint "Marinovka", as a result of which the militia suffered losses in manpower and equipment and did not complete the task.

      https://rozavetrovsibir.ru/documents/boi-za-doneckii-aeroport-hronologiya-bitva-za-doneckii-aeroport/

      https://kontingent.press/post/zhivye-i-mertvye-pervyj-boj-za-aeroport-donecka
      1. nickname7
        nickname7 5 January 2023 09: 06
        0
        carried out by Khodakovsky, there was a battle near the checkpoint "Marinovka", as a result of which the Militia suffered losses in manpower and equipment and did not complete the task.

        Do you want to reproach Khodakovsky with the fact that the militia, having no siege artillery, lost in the attack to the personnel unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which is on the defensive?
        There is a saying - "for the beaten they give two not beaten" Khodakovsky, it will be better than biathlete officers.
  25. Egeny
    Egeny 4 January 2023 11: 59
    -3
    Quote from: vvn_vl
    and military-party managers ...

    I believe that it was not the General Staff who made the decision to deploy personnel and BC in one place, but brainless small local "menagers".
    Here they are to be judged.
  26. Egeny
    Egeny 4 January 2023 12: 06
    0
    Quote from Alexwar
    Artemovsk has been turned into Stalingrad, a struggle for every house.
    Hymers are loaded with bearings, why, for example, don’t put balls into the warhead and explode above the surface?

    How do you imagine "charging" warhead missiles with bearings?
    Sergeant, why are you not in the General Staff?
    1. Egeny
      Egeny 4 January 2023 21: 52
      0
      Why, boy? The text of your comment is too short ... come on, bot
    2. nickname7
      nickname7 5 January 2023 09: 11
      0
      How do you imagine "charging" warhead missiles with bearings?

      Engineers know how to do it. There is a rocket for himars with 1800 tungsten balls that hits everyone from above in the trenches and ravines.
  27. Egeny
    Egeny 4 January 2023 12: 07
    -1
    Quote: Yapet100
    will not be punished.

    Not all at once, they will punish.
    1. Egeny
      Egeny 4 January 2023 21: 54
      0
      ..what minus, do not tell me, people?
  28. Egeny
    Egeny 4 January 2023 12: 13
    -1
    Quote from Deon59
    on a zombie box they show how the Russian army is fighting

    The fact of the matter is that "on the box" ...
    I am also from a family of officers, the captain and also a connection. New equipment, opportunities and practice.
    We are studying, and you are watching the "box".)
    1. Deon59
      Deon59 4 January 2023 13: 59
      0
      We have already kind of won, we will soon reach the English Channel, and we have no analogues in communication technology, but there are a lot of But, and the UAV nizenko nizenko flies deep into our rear. Probably the radar has no analogues on the new elemental base, it simply does not see targets.
  29. Egeny
    Egeny 4 January 2023 12: 16
    0
    Khodakovsky wonders

    Well ... to ask questions, we are all generals here in sweatpants with stripes.)
  30. _simply
    _simply 4 January 2023 12: 30
    +3
    Our BC is between two buttocks - soviet and western. We said goodbye to the scoop, but did not re-optimize. Here we are chatting. Sorry for the soldiers and officers.
  31. Bayun
    Bayun 4 January 2023 13: 11
    +5
    Drugs and equipment in modern warfare must be DISTRIBUTED. A compact stationary V/Ch is inherently an anachronism. An airfield, a barracks, a compact fleet of armored vehicles in the event of serious databases are destroyed in one fell swoop.

    For the survival of the country in the event of a World War, VILLAGES and VILLAGES (!!!) are needed, otherwise, on the first day of a serious war, the country loses 1-70% of the (urban) population. This is something that is worth thinking about not only the military, but also politicians ...
  32. Arkady007
    Arkady007 4 January 2023 13: 26
    0
    Well, if the president only gives instructions a year after the start of hostilities to check whether all the fighters have windings and a gun. It makes no sense to even remember about the generals.
    When the deputies, only after a year of the war, thought about reducing the days off in January, this only means that they do not perceive the hostilities in Ukraine in any way regarding themselves.
  33. igorra
    igorra 4 January 2023 13: 54
    0
    As long as Putin pursues his liberal aspirations, such excesses will continue. For many miscalculations that led to the death of our soldiers, civilians, but simply for errors in planning, analysis, shortcomings in supply, no one seriously answered.
  34. vlad2000
    vlad2000 4 January 2023 13: 58
    +2
    rather strange reasoning of civilians far from the army about how to fight and disperse troops))) if this article was about football, then I think everyone was discussing exactly the same with rapture who should have been released on the field and how the coach should train the team. the army is quite a frame body where the commander can make decisions only within the framework of the order given to him and take the initiative only within the limits of his duties. That is, no platoon or company has the right to change the place of deployment on its own. Or start attacking in another place or disband the personnel at home. more .if it was a unit of newly arrived mobilized, then naturally, as is done in the army, there was an order to arrive at some final point. At this final point, the corresponding deputy commander for rear received a command to temporarily house 500 people for a couple of days before distributing in parts or leaving for the front .do you seriously think that in such cases a lawsuit will run put apartments all over the city to settle an uncontrollable mobilization rabble of three to five people? Is there anything to do with the rear units? days it was natural. and so do Ukrainians. plus the personal sloppiness of mobile phones using terephones. And it’s somewhat strange to hear about the proposal to turn off cellular communications. Firstly, this is a civilian city not on the front line. from mobile communications. so di bath strategists, you would be better in your profession, sinless would be better.
  35. Igor Zhorov
    Igor Zhorov 4 January 2023 14: 28
    0
    Yes, there was no betrayal, it was just necessary to place the personnel in accordance with the norms and requirements of the inspectors. The soldiers are not on the front line, and therefore not in the bunker. How do you explain to the general why the soldiers do not have bedside tables, slippers and towels?
    1. your1970
      your1970 5 January 2023 16: 53
      0
      Quote: Igor Zhorov
      How are you to the general explain why the soldiers do not have bedside tables, slippers and towels?

      And how are you the internet explain - what exactly is why there are no bedside tables and beds ???
  36. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 4 January 2023 15: 22
    -1
    Let me refute, Mr. brigade commander "Vostok" Khodakovsky, if it were as you say, the war would have ended in favor of Russia in 1 month.
  37. opuonmed
    opuonmed 4 January 2023 15: 38
    -1
    it’s a pity that they don’t think about the war of the future and the present, everyone thinks that 60-90 years is sad!
  38. Amper
    Amper 4 January 2023 15: 53
    +1
    If the authorities thought in terms of Soviet society, there would be no s-v-o at all! No one would dare to attack the Superpower with its Invincible Armed Forces under the control of PEOPLE'S leaders and commanders! am
    1. vlad2000
      vlad2000 4 January 2023 16: 04
      -1
      cheers comrades!!! and thunderous applause laughing
    2. your1970
      your1970 5 January 2023 16: 56
      0
      Quote: Amper
      No one would dare to attack the Superpower with its Invincible Armed Forces under the control of PEOPLE'S leaders and commanders!

      Dry river, huh?
      U-2 flights over the whole country?
      Bulk squeezing US ships abroad in the Black Sea?

      The United States has always spit on a superpower with people's leaders.
  39. Alexander Toroshchin
    Alexander Toroshchin 4 January 2023 16: 09
    0
    So why is it impossible to shoot them for the direct betrayal that caused so many deaths, why is it impossible to shoot them for the inactivity and irresponsibility of the bastard commanders? For blood, the only payment is blood.
  40. Altmann
    Altmann 4 January 2023 16: 30
    +2
    This is a problem, because the commanders are firmly entrenched in the old Russian tactical thinking. All their lives they learned only one and the same thing. Impressions from the Great Patriotic War were holy. This is what most officers think, because we cannot do otherwise. I am an old, former officer of the Czech army and studied everything according to the Soviet model in a military lyceum and a military school, and suddenly I find out that I can’t do it anywhere else. We do not have enough modern experience and this must be broken somewhere in the General Staff. It was treason, indiscipline and stupidity, it is clear to us today. am
    1. vlad2000
      vlad2000 4 January 2023 17: 11
      -2
      listen ..... Czech officer ...... the fact that a dropout in their Czech schools is understandable. You don’t blather about Soviet schools and academies. Unlike you, we always knew how to fight Czechs. It’s just that we have fools in whose epaulettes in peacetime are friends and relatives pulling up. So everything will be fine gradually.
  41. Ulum
    Ulum 4 January 2023 17: 10
    -1
    Well, yes, everyone around is fools, one SBU officer Khodakovsky, a character with a muddy past and an even more muddy present, knows and understands everything. The FSB needs to check this type for a long time.
  42. Vodila
    Vodila 4 January 2023 19: 10
    -2
    What , tribunals can not be introduced ? These reptiles, according to the law of wartime, are in public against the wall.
  43. flicker
    flicker 4 January 2023 21: 38
    0
    Khodakovsky called the decision taken a betrayal and expressed regret that it was not possible to shoot those who made this decision.
    The well-known commander of the Luhansk detachment Kolmogorov once drew attention to the fact that in the DPR from 2014 to 2022 the number of personnel of the people's militia was 18 thousand. people who have received regular salaries all these years. But when the NWO began, in fact the personnel turned out to be 3 thousand. fighters.
    ---
    I wonder why Khodakovsky does not say anything about this?
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  45. Yumico
    Yumico 4 January 2023 22: 31
    0
    The liquidation of the Slavic ethnic group for the sake of capital
  46. wladimirjankov
    wladimirjankov 5 January 2023 01: 00
    0
    This is precisely a betrayal and a crime to frame the mobilized men and kill them en masse. Is that why they were sent there? The criminals who made the decision to place so many of our soldiers in one building located in the war zone and who killed them with this, must suffer severe punishment.
    1. your1970
      your1970 5 January 2023 16: 59
      0
      Quote: wladimirjankov
      The criminals who made the decision to place so many of our soldiers in one building located in the war zone and who killed them with this, must suffer severe punishment.

      The head of the local administration and the command of the NM Corps? This is what they posted...
  47. Sergei N 58912062
    Sergei N 58912062 5 January 2023 02: 24
    0
    Who concentratedly placed people in a building unprotected from shelling?! The perpetrators must be found and punished according to the laws of war!!!

    1. tolmachiev51
      tolmachiev51 5 January 2023 04: 12
      -1
      - this is if there is a war, and we have a "muddy" NWO operation !!!
  48. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 5 January 2023 04: 10
    0
    "..... it is not possible to shoot those who made this decision" - but in vain !!! not strong in tactics, but how much you can carry out "SVO". Maybe hence the adoption of such decisions - there is no specific ultimate goal, one chatter.
  49. Alex242
    Alex242 5 January 2023 04: 33
    -1
    our lampioners are still fighting, as in 41, it’s time for them to change their worldview, to be transported to new times ....
    1. Vovavvs
      Vovavvs 5 January 2023 13: 27
      0
      How is it?! Look, those responsible for the Kharkov and Kh. And how many of them stood up against the wall for incompetence?
      1. your1970
        your1970 5 January 2023 17: 05
        0
        Quote: VovaVVS
        I wonder how much Stalin handed out awards to generals in 1941? ?
        well, for example, Vlasov belay was awarded for the defense of Moscow

        Quote: VovaVVS
        And how many of them stood up against the wall for incompetence?

        By the beginning of the war, there were about 1 generals in the spacecraft; about 500 more were assigned during the war
        Total 4 500.
        Shot - 56 human.
        For everything profaned before 1944, for the Wehrmacht in Stalingrad, for Minsk (200 total losses in 000 days of the war), for Kyiv ...
        Found extreme...
        The rest were moved from place to place, yeah, yeah ....
  50. Hindu
    Hindu 5 January 2023 05: 14
    0
    So, who are these "some"? Or didn't you mean anyone in particular? But in general? What is the meaning of this bitter lamentation?
    Or if you call Shoigu and Gerasimov, then it is possible to agree with Putin as well?
    Or are they not here?
    Why start a conversation in the style of "someone here and there sometimes"?