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The representative of PMC "Wagner" spoke about the training of fighters in the training center in the Kuban

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The representative of PMC "Wagner" spoke about the training of fighters in the training center in the Kuban

Since the start of the special military operation of the RF Armed Forces, more than 10 people have completed training at the Wagner PMC special training center in the Krasnodar Territory. This is reported RIA News referring to one of the leaders of the training center, known under the call sign "Tok".


As the representative of the PMC noted, volunteers who have expressed a desire to work in the company are undergoing training. They are trained by instructors who themselves have worked in PMCs for many years and have extensive experience in participating in hostilities. They pass on their own experience to new recruits.

According to one of the leaders of the training center, not only fighters of the Wagner PMC, but also volunteers of the territorial defense formations created in the Bryansk and Kursk regions are trained there.

The main task of training in the training center, its representative called the transfer of the maximum amount of knowledge and skills in the shortest possible time. The fighter must come out well prepared in order to effectively use the acquired knowledge in the process of performing combat missions.

It should be noted that the training in the training center is structured in such a way that all the time, with the exception of rest and eating, the fighters spend on combat training, and not on drill and chores. This makes it possible to carry out training in a very short time, in terms of the scale of the army.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 January 2023 13: 28
    -7
    The main task of training in the training center, his representative called the transfer the maximum amount of knowledge and skills in the shortest possible time. The fighter must come out well prepared to effectively use the acquired knowledge during the execution of combat missions.
    Beautiful, but crazy. It's good that the fighters are unloaded from outfits and guard duty, but "rapid absorption of food does not guarantee its assimilation" request
    1. novel66
      novel66 2 January 2023 13: 39
      -1
      Well, there is a statutory half an hour to assimilate
    2. lopvlad
      lopvlad 2 January 2023 13: 59
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      but "rapid absorption of food does not guarantee its assimilation"


      as well as the slow absorption of food. The quality of the food itself and its usefulness for the body are of key importance. In a short time, it will not be possible to prepare a universal soldier, but to prepare soldiers, each of which will be imprisoned for a narrow, strictly defined task.
  2. Konnick
    Konnick 2 January 2023 13: 37
    +4
    There haven't been any problems like this yet.


    This is a dangerous business, many will use PMCs for a breakthrough.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 2 January 2023 23: 39
      0
      The punishment for them must also be appropriate. According to the laws of wartime. After all, they put an end to the possibility of rehabilitation for convicts who want to atone for their sins with blood.
  3. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 2 January 2023 13: 37
    +3
    Center in the Kuban .. Molkino chtol? Accurately met a brother-in-law from Libya. Dec 31 The beard was grown by a kvk aksakal. In the first store they were greeted like a homeless man .. But when he pulled out the shoveler, everyone was in Ashui
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 2 January 2023 14: 48
      0
      It is Molkino. Only there are only "Wagnerites" of the MTR Units.
  4. Fizik13
    Fizik13 2 January 2023 13: 37
    -1
    The main thing is that they learn to work smoothly, clearly, not get lost in difficult situations and cover each other. After all, PMC "Wagner" employs not young people, but adults who know the value of life and they have great motivation.
    1. Asad
      Asad 2 January 2023 14: 04
      +3
      What is their motivation? They have a motivation to stay alive, they will write in commercials, and the bulk, after two weeks of preparation, will storm Bakhmut head-on.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 2 January 2023 14: 44
      0
      Quote from Fizik13
      The main thing is that they learn to work smoothly, clearly, not get lost in difficult situations and cover each other. After all, PMC "Wagner" employs not young people, but adults who know the value of life and they have great motivation.

      And they die in battles along with the fighters of the LDNR and the Russian army.
  5. filibuster
    filibuster 2 January 2023 13: 38
    -3
    And how did the story end when two Wagner fighters filmed a video where they cursed the Chief of the General Staff Gerasimov? Even the propagandists were stunned by what was happening and at first they declared that it was the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who had changed clothes and here in the VO there were also a bunch of “linguists” who said that it was the Ukrainians who were “mimicking” like bandits and specialists in Wagner’s internal order, but then Prigogine confirmed that on the form of his fighters and the problems voiced take place.
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 2 January 2023 14: 02
      -2
      Quote from: filibuster
      And how did the story end when two Wagner fighters filmed a video where they cursed the Chief of the General Staff Gerasimov?


      and what is incomprehensible to you in the abbreviation PMC? .Or should private organizations be subordinate to the RF Ministry of Defense?
      1. filibuster
        filibuster 2 January 2023 14: 10
        0
        I understand everything, PMC is as private as public Gazprom, do you seriously think that Prigozhin has money to buy equipment, shells, and maintain aviation. Moreover, if you watch the video, then his fighters, despite the fact that in your understanding the company is private, demanded something from Gerasimov in a very rude manner.
        1. 28st region
          28st region 2 January 2023 14: 18
          +4
          What laws define them, let's say the law on weapons, according to this law they must be armed, but it is not clear how they should be armed. And then there is aviation and artillery, and only from the factory and tanks. Someone explain on the basis of what Russian laws they operate.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 2 January 2023 14: 39
            -5
            Quote: 28st region
            Someone explain on the basis of what Russian laws they operate.

            Based on the laws of war!
            1. filibuster
              filibuster 2 January 2023 14: 40
              +2
              What kind of laws are these? There are no hints of PMCs in the wartime laws.
              1. hhurik
                hhurik 2 January 2023 14: 55
                0
                But there are no direct restrictions. wink And what is not forbidden is allowed. Here is such a funny perdimonocle turns out.
                In fact, state-owned structures did their best, did not fulfill the tasks assigned to them and are trying to jump off the topic - therefore, they outsourced the solution of some issues to private traders. The legal basis of the action is in the process of formation, therefore, the "gray zone", where the criterion for the life of private traders is efficiency.
                Judging by the cries of Svidomites, something is dancing.
                1. filibuster
                  filibuster 2 January 2023 15: 00
                  +1
                  But there are no direct restrictions.


                  Yes, it’s not, there are just direct prohibitions, on the same weapon, according to the law, a person serving a sentence cannot just be released from prison, much less give him a weapon and send him to fight.

                  In fact, government structures have done their best,


                  PMC Wagner is exactly the same government structure.
                  1. 28st region
                    28st region 2 January 2023 15: 17
                    +2
                    Quote from: filibuster
                    PMC Wagner is exactly the same government structure.

                    Who does she obey?
                    What is a public company
                    A state-owned enterprise is, according to the civil legislation of the Russian Federation, a unitary state enterprise based on the right to operational management of the property assigned to it.
                    Creation Goals
                    State-owned enterprises are created for the purpose of producing products, providing services or performing work, the main customer of which is the state or a constituent entity of the Russian Federation.
                    1. filibuster
                      filibuster 2 January 2023 15: 30
                      0
                      Who does she obey?


                      If you read Prigozhin's biography, then it will become clear whose person he is and to whom he obeys.
                  2. hhurik
                    hhurik 2 January 2023 15: 27
                    -2
                    Kindly - a link to the studio to the definitions of prohibiting rules of law, and then to the word of a person with registration in August of this year. I do not believe, alas. The words "here in Russia" do not convince either.
                    At the same time - since the official structure, as you insist - present a copy of the normative act regulating the activities of the state-owned enterprise PMC "Wagner", please. hi Well, for the sake of decency.
                    1. filibuster
                      filibuster 2 January 2023 15: 43
                      +1
                      I don’t have links, but there is logic, the state represented by the Kremlin will not allow anyone from the outside to have an army, moreover with armored vehicles, artillery, aviation, and Prigozhin doesn’t have that kind of money.
                      I repeat, in my opinion, now Putin needs PMCs to prevent the strengthening of the military, the classic divide and rule.
            2. dmi.pris1
              dmi.pris1 2 January 2023 14: 53
              +2
              And here you can argue. What kind of "war time" is this..? Are we at war with someone? No, this is not for you, but for those in power. There is no martial law in the country, only in certain regions. We have not declared war on anyone, although probably should have
          2. JPD
            JPD 2 January 2023 17: 53
            -1
            WHAT PURPOSE ARE YOU INTERESTING FOR? Don't you care?! Are you an envoy?
        2. NAP
          NAP 4 January 2023 18: 44
          0
          [quote] [/ quote] do you seriously think that Prigozhin has money to buy equipment, shells, maintenance of aviation
          Prigozhin is an oligarch, other oligarchs could do the same, but a personal wallet and well-being are more important than the country.
      2. kamakama
        kamakama 2 January 2023 22: 49
        +1
        I would very much like to see the details of the same Wagner. In particular, an extract from the Unified State Register of Legal Entities. I suspect that OKVED 80 is indicated there. * And then you need to find out the current licenses and so on. But legally, the zone is still gray, as it conflicts with the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation 359 in such subtle formulations as "military operations" and "armed conflict"
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 2 January 2023 14: 16
      0
      Quote from: filibuster
      How did the story endwhen two Wagner fighters made a video

      An insult to a high boss.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 2 January 2023 14: 20
        -4
        These were Ukrainians, not Wagner fighters.
        1. filibuster
          filibuster 2 January 2023 14: 22
          +1
          And Prigozhin said that these were his fighters.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 2 January 2023 14: 24
            -1
            You can link to his words, which he confirmed, not denied.
            1. filibuster
              filibuster 2 January 2023 14: 36
              0
              Well, it's not serious, you yourself will find everything easily if you wish.


              Entrepreneur Yevgeny Prigozhin responded in a voice message format to a request from journalists about a video circulating in the media and Telegram channels on behalf of some fighters who turned to the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov with a complaint about the lack of ammunition. The businessman was asked if he could say: Ukrainian nationalists on the record or fighters of the Wagner PMC? In addition to his voice messages, the press service of the Concord company published a video of Prigozhin with the Wagnerites. “Especially to answer your question, I went to the guys in dugouts. Have you seen any of the Ukrainian nationalists here now? And I didn't see. Our main task and theirs too, they talk about it all the time, is to go and take Bakhmut. I think that the capture of Bakhmut is not far off for a long time. As for the problems that, unfortunately, arise at every step, I hope that we will solve them. Let's decide and let's make a decision. There are no nationalists in that sensational video,” he said. “And separately, the guys asked me to pass it on when I get to the normal Internet. When you sit in a warm office, the problems of the front line are hard to hear. And when you pull out the bodies of your comrades every day and see them for the last time, then ammunition is very necessary, ”continued the businessman. Prigozhin did not immediately respond to the request of the editors of Dni.ru, since he was out of the access zone. Earlier, the businessman turned to The Wall Street Journal with a proposal to send one of the correspondents to the Bakhmut direction and promised to give him a detailed interview. It is reported by "The Rambler".



              https://news.rambler.ru/army/49939770-chto-kasaetsya-problem-my-ih-reshim-prigozhin-otvetil-na-vopros-o-video-s-obrascheniem-nekih-boytsov-k-genshtabu/
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 2 January 2023 14: 49
                0
                Quote from: filibuster
                this is not serious, you yourself will find everything easily if you wish

                This is serious, you said something, and the one to whom you said should look for confirmation. This is not serious.
                What Prigozhin said can be regarded as in childhood ..... yes and no, don’t say .... He didn’t say that these were Wagner fighters and didn’t refute
                1. filibuster
                  filibuster 2 January 2023 14: 54
                  +1
                  What Prigozhin said can be regarded as in childhood ..... yes and no, don’t say .... He didn’t say that these were Wagner fighters and didn’t refute


                  I don't understand, do you want to convince yourself or something? If these were Ukrainians in disguise, then Prigozhin would have directly stated this, but he clearly said: “There are no nationalists in that sensational video.”
                  1. YOUR
                    YOUR 2 January 2023 15: 09
                    0
                    No, that's not true, he didn't say that. He said:
                    Quote from: filibuster
                    “Especially to answer your question, I went to the guys in dugouts. Have you seen any of the Ukrainian nationalists here now? And I didn't see.

                    It’s you who not only made a link, but also almost completely quoted his words
                    Not a word about the video.
                    1. filibuster
                      filibuster 2 January 2023 15: 37
                      -1
                      Well, well, that is, you still think that there were Ukrainians dressed in the uniform of Wagner PMCs in the video?
                      1. YOUR
                        YOUR 3 January 2023 04: 46
                        +1
                        Does PMC Wagner have its own uniform? Or just a patch?
            2. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 2 January 2023 14: 42
              -3
              Exactly! And then everyone can shake the air with their lips!
            3. Stas157
              Stas157 2 January 2023 16: 35
              +1
              Quote: YOUR
              Can you link to his words?

              There is also a video where Prigozhin directly says that these were not Ukrainians, but his fighters. Look for yourself. Yandex immediately issues. Just looked.
    3. sadam2
      sadam2 3 January 2023 04: 53
      -1
      Here it is necessary to ask the editors of VO a question why such jaundice was let in here and our turbo-throats pecked like smelt on paralon ... it didn’t turn out beautifully
  6. YOUR
    YOUR 2 January 2023 14: 09
    0
    It is not clear what the status of these guys is, to whom they report. You read Wagner this, Wagner that, but who are they military personnel, who are mercenaries? Who pays for their training, uniforms, weapons, who pays their salaries. What laws define them, what is their number. It turns out that we have an army that does not obey anyone.
    1. 7gor
      7gor 2 January 2023 14: 35
      +3
      Personal army!!! Whose, not specified
    2. NAP
      NAP 4 January 2023 18: 45
      0
      Private military company. What is not clear? Paid by Prigogine. Other oligarchs who we have fully could sponsor the armed forces and other armed formations that participate in the NWO on our side, but the personal account is more important for them.
  7. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 2 January 2023 14: 13
    +2
    Few people know the inner life of PMC Prigozhin ... it opens up a little.
    We can say for sure that this work is not for the weak-minded people.
    I respect Prigogine for his personal qualities
    and with their ability to achieve their goals ... and its musicians are top-class fighters ... and it’s very good that they work for the benefit of our country, and not someone else’s ... people conquered Siberia in their time with such a spirit.
    1. filibuster
      filibuster 2 January 2023 14: 18
      0
      All the same, our people are greedy for "idols", have you read Prigozhin's biography?
      As for PMCs in general, what goals did they achieve in the NWO? In general, in Russia they like to adopt the Western, but distorting it in their own way. There are PMCs in the USA, but they are used for specific events, no one attracts them to participate in “combined arms” operations, because this is the lot of the regular / professional army, not a single PMC will financially pull artillery / MLRS, aviation on the balance sheet.
      I have an opinion that PMCs and Prigozhin are Putin's attempt to prevent army generals from gaining strength and Kadyrov also fits this role.
      1. hhurik
        hhurik 2 January 2023 15: 15
        -1
        What kind of "special events" are these? Delivery of convoys with grub, ammunition and fuel using military armored cars, etc. - this is actually at the mercy of private traders. Even in the pranks in the purely state-owned Abu Ghraib prison, employees of two PMCs Titan and CACI were involved.
        No need to shag your grandmother, everything is the same everywhere - pay the mercenary with hard cash, and everything will be tip-top. Tea capitalism in the yard.
        1. 28st region
          28st region 2 January 2023 15: 27
          +5
          Stop suffering nonsense. There in the US everything is determined by law. There is a law on PMCs. The state makes a decision and concludes an agreement with such an organization, and all this is published on government websites, as well as the amounts that will be paid. They guard part of the border with Mexico.
          1. hhurik
            hhurik 2 January 2023 16: 30
            0
            And-and-and-and? wink Those. the state has established the rules of the game and considered it necessary to bring them to the attention in the part concerning. What did not want to bring - did not bring and is not going to.
            In Russia, they didn’t disclose anything at all, well, they wanted to.
            Those. at the core is the will of the sovereign: as the word gives, so it will be taken away. It’s a matter of life, these actions do not infringe on their fellow citizens (and this is the main thing), but to destroy enemies where and how you have to is a sacred thing.
            1. 28st region
              28st region 4 January 2023 03: 17
              0
              What is the photo for, what does it symbolize?
        2. filibuster
          filibuster 2 January 2023 15: 28
          +1
          What kind of "special events" are these? Delivery of convoys with grub, ammunition and fuel using military armored cars, etc. - this is actually at the mercy of private traders. Even in the pranks in the purely state-owned Abu Ghraib prison, employees of two PMCs Titan and CACI were involved.


          Yes, such specific measures are the level of PMCs, and taking fortified settlements is already the task of the army.
      2. JPD
        JPD 2 January 2023 18: 05
        +1
        Are you generally in the subject of American PMCs? .... they have EVERYTHING, and aviation is like a cherry on a cake .... you know little ... scroll the Internet on the topic and not on Russian sites, google English-speaking ... I recommend)
    2. Asad
      Asad 2 January 2023 14: 24
      +3
      How can you become an extra-class specialist in two weeks?
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 2 January 2023 14: 29
        -4
        Quote: ASAD
        How can you become an extra-class specialist in two weeks?

        Just don't pretend to be a first-grader with such questions.
        You perfectly understand how the musicians fought in Mariupol and in other places ... with two weeks of training, you can’t defeat a stubborn enemy ... and the Wagnerites do it every day ... I saw how they die in battles ... they fight like they should.
  8. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 2 January 2023 14: 16
    -4
    Quote: YOUR
    . It turns out that we have an army that does not obey anyone.

    Why do you think so?
    Who pays for their training, uniforms, weapons, who pays their salaries. What laws define them, what is their number.

    And to whom do you want to transfer this information? ... Not to Zaluzhny?
  9. Li17
    Li17 2 January 2023 15: 16
    +1
    I have a friend who has served quite well as a musician. I didn’t tell the person anything, although it’s enough for me to understand everything from fragments. Wagner is essentially a real army, and Ahmad can be attributed to it. They have no titles, position and strict discipline, they sort it out on the spot and quickly! As he told me ... for drinking, the elder can shoot him in the leg! There are no boys with a year of service and captured partisan mobiks, everyone served, and they look at the diploma and your track record only on business! By the way, as I understand it, awards are also presented, but this is all without noise. Recently there was a noise about a moron with a machine gun who wounded the police ... something is no longer audible, their own security service is working quickly! Those who spoke out against Gerasimov ...., but they won’t do anything, they didn’t have to climb, our head of the monastery confused that the soldier was trembling at the sight of him! And for them, he is a misunderstanding, especially after the failure of the CBO! All this became possible due to the destruction of the army, which, in fact, became an elegant sign, able to march with bared smiles in front of the guarantor sitting in a chair!
    Recently I talked with a truck driver, was carrying cargo for the musicians, all the documents were available, but at the post of Shakhty a cop clung, tried to breed and take something for himself. After a long .. let go of the car, as I understand it, the rest prudently disappeared ..., I arrived and reported. Bottom line, we didn’t see the cop at the post anymore!
  10. RoTTor
    RoTTor 2 January 2023 15: 39
    +4
    The legal status of this PMC?

    Interaction with the Defense Ministry and the National Guard how?

    Where did PMCs get aviation, armored vehicles, etc. and how do they pay for airfield and air traffic control services, engineering and aviation support?

    If PMCs are more efficient than the army, then it is necessary to disperse the Ministry of Defense and, especially, the mediocre or wrecking General Staff and give up defense to PMCs ???
    1. JPD
      JPD 2 January 2023 18: 18
      +1
      Do not write nonsense, in the USA private ones (Blackwater (Academy) as an example, have serious state support ... unofficial, of course, and sometimes you need a pike in the river so that crucian carp do not doze off ... is that clear? And the legal status .. ..and what and by whom is the status of a volunteer regulated ??? .. that's how you consider them ... it's a shame for the state!