The President of the Russian Federation gave a number of important instructions regarding the development of the domestic UAV sector

Our SVO in Ukraine made it clear that in modern realities it is almost impossible to conduct full-fledged military operations without the use of UAVs. This is not only about percussion devices. The thing is that reconnaissance and adjustment of artillery today is also carried out through drones.

Obviously, at the beginning of the special operation, the RF Armed Forces, to put it mildly, lagged somewhat behind in this respect. At the same time, the West supplied a huge number of UAVs to Ukraine, which undoubtedly contributed to the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front.

Meanwhile, our command has drawn the necessary conclusions, and now much more attention is being paid to drones in the Russian troops. Moreover, under the conditions of total sanctions, Russia is actively and quite successfully setting up the production of its own devices.

It should be noted that the development of the domestic UAV sphere is stimulated at the highest level. So, literally today, Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a number of important instructions regarding this area.

In particular, on the basis of the autonomous non-profit organization "Platform of the National Technological Initiative", by June 1 next year, a system of research and production centers for testing and competence in the development of drones accredited by the Federal Air Transport Agency should be created.

In addition, the President ordered the Ministry of Industry and Trade, together with the aforementioned non-profit organization and the Government of Moscow, to ensure annual exhibitions in the field of UAVs until September 1, 2023.

Finally, in accordance with Vladimir Putin's instruction, the Russian government must take all necessary measures to stimulate demand for domestic UAV products, assist in the development of the industry, including with subsidies, and approve a national project for the development of unmanned aerial vehicles. aviation systems by the end of this decade.

All the above-mentioned instructions of the President are published on the Kremlin website.

Comments

[svp67]

All the above-mentioned instructions of the President are published on the Kremlin website.

And the instruction to figure out where the money allocated for previous UAV development programs has gone, is there?

[Bingo]

Quote: svp67

where is the money for previous UAV development programs

Well, there are Eagles ... And if they listened to our all-weapons, they would sit in an embrace with Bayraktars, like suckers, or fairy tales about unmanned swarms, like mattresses. Before the NWO, the whole world stank only about these two types of drones

[Luka Nord]

Quote from Bingo

Well, there are Eagles ... And if they listened to our all-weapons, they would sit in an embrace with Bayraktars, like suckers, or fairy tales about unmanned swarms, like mattresses. Before the NWO, the whole world stank only about these two types of drones

Everything is exactly like that .. In general, give money and do not interfere with our engineers and so that without any intermediaries (dodgers) to work directly with the Army And everything will be !!! There are still ideological Kulibins and not a few.

[tkoh]

Quote from Luka Nord

In general, give money and do not interfere with our engineers

After 30 years of optimizing science and education, do we still have engineers? Either the West lured them to itself or they left for IT. And engineering schools cannot be created practically from scratch in six months or even in a year ...

[Dead duck]

Retirees (pre-retirement) still remain where the young are taught and nurtured themselves.
But these are grains.

[Rome]

Quote from Luka Nord

without any intermediaries (dodgers) to work directly with the Army

Are you sure that dodgers do not serve in the army? Who signs the acts?

[cold wind]

So funny) Orlanov counted twice, Serchers (Outpost) have already disappeared, as a result, Chinese civilian drones are somehow taken out, though for operators each flight can be the last, their location is calculated at a time. As a result, as the “all-weapons” said, we are sitting deaf and blind, hitting “areal targets”.
Americans on 1 MQ-1/9 have 100 UAVs of "small" classes. Military, with secure communication channels, working for hours. Further more.

[stankow]

Orlanov 1500 done. For 400 divisions. What do you want more?

[cold wind]

Quote: stankow

Orlanov 1500 done. For 400 divisions. What do you want more?

Of course, this is minuscule. In addition, these 1 Eagles are only in the reports. For current tasks, about 500 Eagles are needed.

[Deon59]

And so what, Orlan does not come with a thermal imager, and the camera is not super.

[Maxim G]

Quote from Bingo

Before the NWO, the whole world stank only about these two types of drones

Bayraktar or swarm? I won't understand.

[cold wind]

The same question arose that in this photo, Bayraktar or swarm ...

[Bingo]

Quote: Maxim G

Bayraktar or swarm? I won't understand.

What targets did you hit? Ah, they shot down on the approach ... You advise the mattresses to master their production - you will definitely be given the highest award by the Russian Federation and China for undermining the combat capability of the enemy

[Maxim G]

Quote from Bingo

What targets did you hit?

My question was.

Bayraktar or swarm?

[Bingo]

Quote: Maxim G

My question was.

This is not a drone at all, because. as such, it does not apply and will not apply ... So consider it a swarm Bayraktar - it will not apply to drones now. Ersatz cruise missile on the knee

[Maxim G]

Quote from Bingo

It's not a drone at all.

Quote from Bingo

Ersatz cruise missile on the knee

Did you read the documentation for it?

[Bingo]

When you finish with the documentation ... Please - about drones. AV then ringing is not a sweat topic ... Didn't you notice the bags? Well, turn around

[YOUR]

Considering that he is 100 years old at lunchtime, but so as not to find fault with the 80s issue. He flew more than 1000 km unnoticed, hit the headquarters 2 times, 3 people died. Give you the defeat of the arsenal of nuclear weapons. So it could be.

[stankow]

Soviet. What's bad?
.,.........

[Maxim G]

Quote: stankow

Soviet. What's bad?

Enviously?

[Terenin]

Quote: svp67

All the above-mentioned instructions of the President are published on the Kremlin website.

And the instruction to figure out where the money for previous UAV development programs has gone, is there?

I hope that the Orders were prepared not by those people who "mastered" the previous programs.

[Monster_Fat]

We have already passed ... Like "May decrees" have already been, .... an instruction to "reduce the poor" ... well, and all that ....

[Quote Lavrov]

Why didn't they see the account statements?)))

[YOUR]

Quote: svp67

And the instruction to figure out where the money allocated for previous UAV development programs has gone, is there?

It's too much. But the direction is set.

[Andy_nsk]

Better late than never. I'm not sure that this will play a big role, but let's hope that the flywheel of the administrative system is spinning up very slowly.

[Egoza]

Quote from Andy_nsk

Better late than never.

So far, explosions are thundering in Kyiv. Mainly right side. Zele's gift under the Christmas tree!

[1razvgod]

I don’t think he cares, he sits over gold, languishes in a bunker, lobsters, foie gras, he has everything all the way, but the rest, well, they’re just people and there won’t be enough lobsters for everyone

[tank64rus]

They forgot about the wonderful powder, and most importantly, that the suit fits.

[Luka Nord]

Quote: Egoza

Quote from Andy_nsk

Better late than never.

So far, explosions are thundering in Kyiv. Mainly right side. Zele's gift under the Christmas tree!

Everything is fine .. Let them jump in the dark and yell Biden come and eat

[Boa kaa]

Quote from Andy_nsk

I'm not sure that this will play a big role, but let's hope that the flywheel of the administrative system is spinning up very slowly.

In vain do you not believe in the crushing power of the MAGIC pendel from the Supreme!
After such a "kick" even hefty lazy ones accelerate to supersonic speeds!

[Mikhail Maslov]

So that's good. Next in line...? Happy New Year!

[pharmacist]

Any war gives impetus to the development of new technologies, tactics, and strategies. It's good that conclusions have been drawn, and we are starting to "change shoes on the go." We look forward to success in the coming year!

[former soldier]

Any war gives impetus to the development of new technologies,

This push for drones with a wide range of purposes was given 20 years ago, and the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict was given to us as the last warning bell in the theater before the performance.

[Jackson]

Well, that push didn't seem to help. They were waiting for the roasted rooster to peck ... But better late than never. Let's catch up....

[dementor873]

Given the ever-increasing role of technology and machinery, the next such war, when the fried cock pecks, there will be no time to catch up and it will just be a Scribe.

[Bingo]

Quote: Former soldier

for drones with a wide range of purposes

... it is precisely which in the NWO showed themselves to be complete zeros - and purely highly specialized ones are used - Geraniums, Lancets, Orlans and Maviks. But station wagons burned out somewhere in the weeds

[stankow]

Bingo , Congratulations ! Well said. The specialist always wins over the generalist! And the hard worker - to the vyipendrezhnik. War puts everything in its place!

[Denis812]

For - in the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, 70% of the losses were inflicted by artillery.
Bayraktars may have played some kind of advertising role, but in combat terms, the losses from them were minimal.
And this is clearly visible in the SVO. Bayraktars appeared and suddenly disappeared.
And artillery plays a decisive role.

[karabas-barabas]

And you apparently kept the statistics, or did you come up with it yourself? Bayraktars not only hit targets themselves, where they are more vulnerable, due to the radius of destruction of the Bayraktar BC, but they also issue target designation, including for artillery, and conduct reconnaissance already at long distances, in my opinion up to 70 km is possible. In this conflict, the Bayraktars, in my opinion, participated in attacks on the cruiser Moscow and Serpent Island.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Denis812

Bayraktars appeared and suddenly disappeared.

They were simply swept from heaven by our air defense, TOR and Shells worked conscientiously. Here they are gone.

Quote: Denis812

And artillery plays a decisive role.

The god of war -- he always remains a GOD ! Just don't forget about the ROCKET troops - they are the ones who destroy rear facilities, reserves, break logistics ... And of course, MLRS, especially our Tornadoes, are presented in a new light --- their flying "pillars" with GLONASS seeker are very good .. The Chimera is inferior to them in terms of range, throwable weight, area of ​​destruction in conventional equipment, without high-precision equipment.
AHA.

[MeVED]

In African countries, wars do not stop, something is not visible there, the production of modern weapons

[Gunther]

The main thing here is that "important instructions" are strictly carried out, but with Hydrant's implementation of the Constitution, it sucks.

[your vsr 66-67]

the Russian government should take all necessary measures to stimulate

While our officials are swinging and deciding to whom and how much - the cancer will whistle on the mountain!

[Vyacheslav57]

In addition to developing the construction of UAVs, it is necessary to create units to fight these enemy UAVs. They do too much damage to our troops.

[cpls22]

The logical conclusion from this is to develop UAV fighters, faster, with means of detection and destruction. The era of unmanned micro-aviation is coming, with its own AFARs and micro-rockets, etc.

[bovi]

the operator and the channel are more promising than the scooters themselves.

[Grandfather]

Quote from cpls22

The era of unmanned micro-aviation is coming, with its own AFARs and micro-rockets, etc.

do you use drugs? ... rare micro-nonsense written by you.

[Tommy Calhoun]

In order for something to develop, it is necessary to create conditions and not give out orders. The government headed by the president is still living in the past, they are "ossified".

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote from Tommy Calhoun

they are "ossified".

they are not ossified, but already too old for sudden movements, at the age of fuss is not the topic, but now it is just needed .. When GDP first came in 3-5 years, how much did it do? consider redrawing all power / finances, finishing Chechnya, etc. he was 50.. and now for the last 5 years, what? compared to the top 5 in terms of significance and activity? it's like 2 different people.

[Tommy Calhoun]

Quote: 2 level advisor

Quote from Tommy Calhoun

they are "ossified".

they are not ossified, but already too old for sudden movements, at the age of fuss is not the topic, but now it is just needed .. When GDP first came in 3-5 years, how much did it do? consider redrawing all power / finances, finishing Chechnya, etc. he was 50.. and now for the last 5 years, what? compared to the top 5 in terms of significance and activity? it's like 2 different people.

So when he came, oil prices helped solve a lot.

[stankow]

At the age of 50, he graduated from Chechnya and thereby returned one region to Russia. And at the age of 70 he returned four regions. At 60 he returned Crimea, which is worth as much as all five regions.

[Argon]

So it’s like this in your Hoohland, but in Russia it’s a little different, and yes, this is a Russian site. You have the wrong door

[Terenin]

Quote from Tommy Calhoun

In order for something to develop, it is necessary to create conditions and not give out orders. The government headed by the president is still living in the past, they are "ossified".

Orders differ from Orders in that they focus on the preliminary study of issues for various departments. That is why such long periods.

[Boa kaa]

Quote from Tommy Calhoun

The government headed by the president is still living in the past, they are "ossified".

The government is headed by the Chairman of the Council of Ministers - M.V. Mishustin, who works above all praise.
And to call GDP "ossified" I personally can’t turn my tongue ...
So, you are wrong.

[Monster_Fat]

Well, they think that it is enough to put dough in a pot and say: "Cook the pot!" and drones, modern means of communication and weapons, new equipment, lithographic machines for the production of chips and processors, modern factories fully equipped, entire sectors of the economy, and most importantly, the specialists who will create all this, design , will be built and should work there, and much, much more, which is very necessary and which is not. The main thing is to hope for a "pot" from which everything will come out by itself, one has only to give an "instruction" and have time to collect what has come out of it before June ... And something tells me that everything will end with "exhibitions on September 1 of "unique", "unparalleled" samples in the world "(we already have "exhibitions", they know how to hold them). But, their appearance in the troops in mass quantities ....

[Gankutsu_]

From a series of May decrees? Or campaign promises? It's not funny on its own

[Mavrikiy]

The President of the Russian Federation gave a number important assignments regarding the development of the domestic UAV sphere

Orders of the President, interesting. But as far as I remember, their execution does not even reach 10%. So maybe it's time to take responsibility before the law for not fulfilling them, or simply put them above the law?

[Alf]

Quote: Mavrikiy

So maybe it's time to take responsibility before the law for not fulfilling them.

Someone to shoot, because everyone is around ...

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Orders of the President, interesting. But as far as I remember, their execution does not even reach 10%. So maybe it's time to take responsibility before the law for not fulfilling them, or simply put them above the law?

"Orders of the President" must be targeted (specific position and full name),
be indicated end goal or result, specific deadline,
at the end of the document (order) indicate measure of responsibility (e.g. seizure of all money and property)
and in the end guarantor's signature (I have read and agree to all terms)

[Alf]

Quote: cat Rusich

Quote: Mavrikiy

Orders of the President, interesting. But as far as I remember, their execution does not even reach 10%. So maybe it's time to take responsibility before the law for not fulfilling them, or simply put them above the law?

"Orders of the President" must be targeted (specific position and full name),
be indicated end goal or result, specific deadline,
at the end of the document (order) indicate measure of responsibility (e.g. seizure of all money and property)
and in the end guarantor's signature (I have read and agree to all terms)

Are you proposing to resume the practice of the "bloody tyrant"? "Now is not the 37th year."

[Irek]

We need to speed up this process so that...

[Comrade I]

Yes, the head of state should not deal with such purely practical issues.
But all the same, under each such news there are a lot of positive responses.
This is a question of the level of the department in the Defense Ministry responsible for the development of new weapons. Plus the leadership of the type of troops responsible for the implementation.
Such "instructions" either mean that nothing works and the president has to deal with it. Or it's a show.
That's what the head of state should do, is to appoint competent ministers who will put things in order in their departments.
But no, all the same, everyone will rejoice at any such occasion.
Remind me the percentage of completed "orders", please.

[Alf]

Quote: Comrade Y

Remind me the percentage of completed "orders", please.

Within the limits of statistical error...

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

There are a lot of such cases, or complete inaction, where there will be no changes without the intervention of the president.
These can be individual lockers, cells in schools, or the absence of sidewalks in yards.
And in the field of armaments, the participation of the president is absolutely necessary.

[Comrade I]

It doesn’t work like that.
The state doesn't work like that.
One person cannot have competencies for such a range of tasks. And most importantly, time.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

This is how the state should work. Until there is a word from the team president, individual lockers in schools for change of shoes will not appear.
Moreover, if I were the president, I would review every road project, because this is the most disastrous area in Russia.

[Alf]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

This is how the state should work. Until there is a word from the team president, individual lockers in schools for change of shoes will not appear.
Moreover, if I were the president, I would review every road project, because this is the most disastrous area in Russia.

Maybe just pick the right team for the president? Oh, hell, it’s he who selects a team for himself ... It can be seen that only crooked-armed thieves are picked up nearby ...

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

But what about Joseph Dzhugashvili, beloved now by so many? After all, he was personally present at the testing of guns and made the final decision on many other types of weapons. Did the state work incorrectly in the USSR too?

[Alf]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

After all, he was personally present at the testing of guns and made the final decision on many other types of weapons.

Accepted. But only after he made a decision, just try not to fulfill it ... But in this case, the president gave an INSTRUCTION (not an order), the officials said Yes, and that was it ...

[lucul]

It doesn’t work like that.
The state doesn't work like that.
One person cannot have competencies for such a range of tasks. And most importantly time

You tell this to Peter the Great)))

[Argon]

All work was carried out to establish the vertical and now no one can sneeze without a decree from the very top.

[Irokez]

In any state, without a sneeze from the top in state structures, no one stutters.
The initiative is only for businessmen for profit.

[Alf]

Quote: Argon

All work was carried out to establish the vertical and now no one can sneeze without a decree from the very top.

And after the Decree, too, no one, as practice shows, sneezes ...

[lucul]

All work was carried out to establish a vertical and now no one can sneeze without a decree from the very top

All work was carried out to establish a vertical of power that was not subject to the influence of the Zionists. Judging by the loss of power, their whole world is ready to fight for its restoration.)))

[karabas-barabas]

Quote: Comrade Y

Yes, the head of state should not deal with such purely practical issues.

Of course it shouldn't. But I remember how Putin declared to the whole world, before the NWO, that Russia has overtaken the whole world in terms of UAVs and we have 2000 of them. Now apparently you have to figure it out for your own words.

[senima56]

".... in modern realities it is almost impossible to conduct full-fledged military operations without the use of UAVs ..." But wasn't it clear 20 (or even 30) years ago following the results of world and regional conflicts?!!! Or was it necessary, as always, to wait, "when the fried cockerel pecks"?!!!

[Arkady007]

7 years in the SAR flew by like one day and no one saw the need for the development of UAVs.
Question.
What were you preparing for then all these 7 years?

[Alf]

Quote: Arkady007

7 years in the SAR flew by like one day and no one saw the need for the development of UAVs.
Question.
What were you preparing for then all these 7 years?

Biathlons were held, the main church was built, and the exhibits were dragged to the Patriot, breaking and losing along the way ...

[Keer]

In addition, the President ordered the Ministry of Industry and Trade, together with the aforementioned non-profit organization and the Government of Moscow, to ensure annual exhibitions in the field of UAVs until September 1, 2023.

There is no doubt about the fact that there will be exhibitions. That the NPO platform NTI will steer the fin. streams, too.

[fa2998]

Quote from Bingo

Well, there are Eagles ...

Before the Second World War, there were PPDs. But few, and the army could not use it. The war began, they began to collect in prisons and camps, and make new ones.
In Afghanistan, we were "introduced" to the Stinger. We began to look for means of counteraction, tactics. To make our own.
We are preparing for the last war. Now we will "develop" UAVs during the war,

[KCA]

Dununa, "Stinger" forced the USSR to make MANPADS? "Strela" was put into service in 1968, "Strela-2M" in 1970, when were the "Stingers" brought to Afghanistan there?

[stankow]

And you object with vi dates, figures, facts. Against the methodology? Forces uneven. Now they will explain to you that the Afghans did not have washing machines, therefore the SA did not have any Arrows, and the generals, preparing for the war before last, stole everything!

[Denis812]

What??? Before Afghanistan, Strela was also Strela-2.

[Nikolaevich I]

Don't fight, girls! Before the Stinger, there was the Red Eye ... which the Americans made a little earlier than the Strela, but adopted the Strela later than in the USSR!

[Sergei N 58912062]

Our SVO in Ukraine made it clear that in modern realities it is almost impossible to conduct full-fledged military operations without the use of UAVs.

This was clear even during the fighting in Georgia in 2008.
This was clear during the hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh in 2020.
NWO has been going on for almost a year, and we have just woken up.

[cold wind]

This was clear back in the 50s and 60s, before the Vietnam War and the Israeli-Arab wars. The great country has massively created drones from Tu-123 to Pchela.

[Osipov9391]

And what about microcircuits, optics, CMOS matrices and vidicons on UAVs today?
They are 90% imported.
And until 90% of them have their own, it will not be possible to massively create large drones, such as the Global Hawk.
You also need a satellite network to control them from a long distance and transmit data.
With microcircuits, it’s really bad, the lag is more than 20 years.

[stankow]

20 years is the norm for military equipment. You don’t even have a clue on what schemes Javelin, MLRS, Abrams, M777, F-15, ISS, JDAM, Cheetahs, Patriots, Neptunes “fly”. This is not a Chinese smartphone for you. From design to acceptance, 20 years fly by in an instant. And then another 40 years of service. If you're lucky, they'll even do the upgrade once, wow . Replace the node, which was also developed and tested for 20 years. In this case, not all nodes are lucky. And the removal of the knots will be delivered to the "allies".

[Osipov9391]

This is far from the case.
Do you know what amount of memory will interfere with modern aviation registrars?
Already gigabytes of information.
And they are made in Smolensk on imported flash memory chips.
For there are simply no suitable ones.
What can be done on the line 0.18 microns or 0.13 microns?
Well, 4-8 megabytes, no more. And the quality leaves much to be desired.

[KCA]

Yoshkin kit, almost in your opinion, sort of? The RPG-7 was put into service in the USSR in 1961 and "flies" without any schemes at all, still demolishes the tower for both abrashkas and leopards, it got to the point that the most advanced country in the field of armaments began to stupidly make pirated copies, of course, shots for the RPG-7 changed, but the pipe remained the same, and nothing, more alive than all the living

[KCA]

Surprise, for the military commissariat of the Ministry of Agriculture, IR and optical sensors, LCD displays are really yours, mostly imported, from Belarus, and the rest is ours, our own, from Shvabe and Zelenograd, our backward oaks promised Mishustin, and he is in electronics understands that 5G networks will be built on Russian equipment, I don’t know how they will communize the necessary MSH, how many there will be, but they promised they will do it, huawei and others can rest, since they dismounted before UWB sanctions

[minus]

Our manufacturers will not be able to make equipment even for the long-dead nmt450 standard, even if they really want to! The production of the element base is almost completely killed! The simplest logic is not even able to be released in large volumes. And telecommunication chips are not produced at all. That small part of the controllers and processors that are produced are clones of ancient controllers no longer needed by anyone, or licensed copies of obsolete cores. Made according to the most ancient technical processes. It's not like 5g, there the basic gsm900 won't work normally either! Once again I cite the Azart radio station as an example - the first ones were on the cmx993 modulator and the Spartan processor. We can't even do gambling on our own!

[KCA]

Go to sleep if you don't know what NMT is? You still remember DAMPS, and say that this is the standard for the RF Armed Forces

[Osipov9391]

Do you also mean what Milandr did and NIIET does in Voronezh?
Well, there are microcontroller frequencies up to 80 MHz approximately. were given by the British
license codes for early ARM and Cortex.
Well, a significant part of Voronezh is completely based on the 51st architecture.
And yes, both factories did not have silicon lines.
The first lies on its side selling off the leftovers. The second one is still working.
Plates with crystals are 70% Taiwan or X-FAB in Germany.
Design technologies there are approximately from 1.2 microns to 0.18 microns.

[zenion]

coldwind. The bees were making the wrong honey, so they burned all the hives.

[lucul]

This was clear back in the 50s and 60s, before the Vietnam War and the Israeli-Arab wars.

Similarly - can you tell me the wide range of UAVs in the French, British, German armies? )))
Once "everyone" was clear)))

[cold wind]

As always, you flaunt your ignorance.

France: ST.20, R.20, CL-89, CL-289, MART, Cresserell, MQ-9A, Harfang, Sperwer, Patroller, Tracker, Spy'Ranger.
Germany: KZO, Luna, Aladdin Mikado, Heron, S-100 Camcopter, LUNA NG
Britain: MQ-9, Hermes 450, Watchkeper, T-Hawk, Desert Hack-Z, RQ-11 Raven, Black Hornet, Scan Eagle

[lucul]

As always, you flaunt your ignorance.

Ahah-ahah)))) I analyze in detail your ignorance:

France: ST.20, R.20, CL-89, CL-289, MART, Cresserell, MQ-9A, Harfang, Sperwer, Patroller, Tracker, Spy'Ranger.
Germany: KZO, Luna, Aladdin Mikado, Heron, S-100 Camcopter, LUNA NG
Britain: MQ-9, Hermes 450, Watchkeper, T-Hawk, Desert Hack-Z, RQ-11 Raven, Black Hornet, Scan Eagle

Look at small britain
MQ-9 - American UAV - what is British here? ))))
Hermes-450 Israeli UAV - what is British here? ))))
Watchkiper is a joint development of the Israeli Elbit and the French Thales - what is British about it?
T-Hawk, more precisely, the RQ-16 T-Hawk is an American UAV - what is British about it? )))
"Desert Hack-Z", RQ-11 "Raven" - American UAVs - what is British about it? ))))
Black Hornet Nano is the only development of the British - here it is in the photo

Scan Eagle - American UAV - what is British about it? )))
Germany :
KZO UAV of Germany - about 60 pieces are in service, a full-fledged UAV
Luna UAV Germany - in service with about 40 pieces
Aladdin - Germany - in service with about 115 pieces (small, launched from the hand)
Mikado - Germany small UAV 100 pieces in service (small)
Geron is an Israeli UAV, what is German in it?
S-100 "Kamkopter Austrian UAV joint development with Germany
LUNA NG is the same as Luna, only with modernization
France:
ST.20, R.20 - UAV - targets, 1957 release - no comments)))
CL-89, CL-289 - French reconnaissance missile, 1972 release.
MART is more precise Altec MART - a full-fledged UAV of France, no complaints
Cresserelle UAV of France - in service since 1992
MQ-9A - American UAV without comment.
Harfang - converted Israeli Heron.
Sperwer small UAV France produced only 140 pieces.
French UAV Patroller - should have entered service with the army in 2022 in a quantity of 16 pieces?
Tracker - development 2017 not in service
Spy'Ranger French small UAV - 35 in service
Where are the broad lines here and, most importantly, where is the full saturation (up to the company) in the troops?

[cold wind]

You have schizophrenia. You talk to yourself.
To me was about the breadth of the ruler in the troops, I wrote them. About sufficiency, the fact that they are of their own production, covering all the link troops - these are your words.
Germany's troops are completely incompetent, France and Great Britain have colonial troops with a strong fleet. Separately, their ground forces are negligible. They are not going to fight, the only threat to them is from the sea. The Russian army is also not combat-ready, the war with Ukraine showed this, so there are no ground threats to them.
Again, it is not clear why these countries indicated why not the army of Nepal or Israel?

[lucul]

You have schizophrenia. You talk to yourself.

Why are you mirroring yourself? )))

[Nickelium]

The Russian army is more than combat-ready. But will the American one also be combat-ready in a collision with a strong enemy.

[Maxim G]

Quote: lucul

Where are the broad lines here and, most importantly, where is the full saturation (up to the company) in the troops?

Do you use other sources besides the English Wikipedia?)

[stankow]

And who sets the timing of "awakening"? Does the RF Armed Forces have drones? There is. All types. Thundering the APU? And how. That more ? Can curtail hysteria?

[lucul]

This was clear even during the fighting in Georgia in 2008.
This was clear during the hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh in 2020.
NWO has been going on for almost a year, and we have just woken up.

"Ta wi sho? "))))
Can you tell me the wide range of UAVs in the French, British, German armies? )))

[ilpine]

And what is a breakthrough:
1. create a center in six months in which to register various legal entities. faces?
2. In 8 months, come up with new exhibitions that are already taking place?
It seems that no one is in a hurry, and so everything is fine. How does this really help CBO? What is the real mechanism for solving the problem?

[cpls22]

In the creation of a sufficient amount of R&D, from which it will be possible to choose the best. In general, without creating our own state-of-the-art photolithographic equipment, counting on a real technological breakthrough in other areas is naive hopes. Nobody wants to sell us this equipment. Today, this is the same "philosopher's stone" for the possession of which there is a struggle, and no one wants to share it.
If we have a modern element base, then the developments will be appropriate for the time, and not "need for inventions is cunning."
For example, we can saturate the cutting edge with smart VOGs that hit UAVs, and then the era of their dominance will pass the same way as the era of domination of manned aircraft as a result of the spread of MANPADS, or the era of domination of tanks on the battlefield, after the appearance of ATGMs on it.

[lucul]

Today, this is the same "philosopher's stone" for the possession of which there is a struggle, and no one wants to share it.

Now in Russia there are lines at 65nm, a transition to 28nm is being developed.
There will be 28 nm - there will be a breakthrough in the industry.

[SpbGenn]

There is no difference for military equipment: 65, 28. The main thing is that there are domestic chips. Do they exist?
Otherwise, you will have to assemble on transistors.

[stelltok]

There is no difference for military equipment: 65, 28.

Do not confuse military equipment and UAVs.
If about UAV, then
28 nm is high quality video. The same Mavic quadrocopter is made according to these nm.

The main thing is to have domestic chips. Do they exist?

There is. Komdiv, Elbrus.

[minus]

Firstly, what you indicated is not Russian! The cores are licensed, only supplemented and edited, with their own separate modules, for example, cryptoprotection. But!!! They were made in Taiwan and are no longer being made. And the maximum that can be expected to be produced with us is according to the 90-65 nm technology .... And now they are not producing it either, but only considering the possibility of production!

[stelltok]

Firstly, what you indicated is not Russian!

Elbrus (VLIW) is purely a development of the Russian Federation. As for the divisional commander, there are mips.

The cores are licensed, only supplemented and edited, with their own separate modules, for example, cryptoprotection.

For domestic consumption, this does not matter.

[Osipov9391]

You can forget about Elbrus. They won't be able to do it in Russia for a long time yet.
What is a Komdiv? This is 1890VM1T and its development from 1998 at a rate of 0.5-0.35 microns
which are made at NIISI in very small batches, mainly for spacecraft.
There is Elvis, Micron and a number of others. But it can no longer be regarded as modern.

[karabas-barabas]

Quote from cpls22

In general, without creating your own state-of-the-art photolithographic equipment, counting on a real technological breakthrough in other areas is naive hopes.

So there were quite a few cases when some high-tech startup in the Russian Federation was unwound by the FSB, who everywhere see traitors when they need stars. The thing is, in order to develop and receive funding, they often found clients in the West, and moreover, not related to the military-industrial complex. A good example, these guys managed to make some kind of super coating for glasses, which they use in large telescopes, I don’t remember the details, but I remember that either the guys had to flee abroad, or they even imprisoned someone. But of course, they will not do any coatings in the Russian Federation. The creation of a modern UAV is a collaboration of specialists in various fields, from airframe materials to a motor, to optics electronics. One company cannot do everything on its own.

[cpls22]

So after all, promising developments, patents are bought up at the root, and not even with the aim of using, but in order to block development.
It is possible that it was not the clients that mattered, but the repurchase of the patent, as a condition for cooperation with these same "clients".
I remember something similar happened with a startup producing thermal imaging matrices, and fundamentally better than traditional ones at that time. It seems that they were able to fight off the "partners" and develop, but it was a long time ago - I don't remember the details.

[SpbGenn]

Absolutely right! there 4 industries should work together tightly.

[gsev]

Quote: karabas-barabas

A good example, these guys managed to make some kind of super coating for glasses, which they use in large telescopes, I don’t remember the details, but I remember that either the guys had to flee abroad, or they even imprisoned someone.

I spoke with a specialist in diamond coatings for rocket windows around 2005. After 10 minutes of meeting him, when asked about his profession, he directly answered that he was working for a foreign customer. I even got the impression that his income from the development of coatings for rocket windows was somewhat lower than the income of Moscow taxi drivers.

[zenion]

Drones are good. And the view from space is better.

[stankow]

You can see from space - yeah, there seems to be a company stronghold. And then for many days, optical, instrumental, airborne (here and drones), field, human intelligence, in order to establish coordinates of targets and prepare data for defeat. Just do not think that the great states have different ways. Iraq you say? Kuwait? There, the grouping was collected for 6 months. And all this time - reconnaissance. Otherwise, it hits only in shooters.

[Ulan.1812]

All this is correct. It is a pity that such decisions were not made earlier.

[16112014nk]

Putin gave many instructions. Only not all are fulfilled, or after a while they turn 180 °. For example, today I signed a decree allowing to pay off debts for gas to "unfriendly" countries with foreign currency. But in March there was a decree on payment only in rubles. Six months have passed, they already turn on the return line. What kind of stability can there be with such shyness back and forth?

[stankow]

Let them pay what they have. From the black sheep...

[gsev]

Quote: stankow

Let them pay what they have. From the black sheep...

As a result, Russia gave the West an interest-free loan of 220 billion. Direct economic assistance to Ukraine during the CBO-31 billion suspiciously corresponds to the interest on a loan of such an amount - 14% per annum. In fact, with these energy supplies without receiving material and intellectual values, Russia finances the war against itself. It would be possible for barter to arrange the supply of North Korean missiles and drones to the front, which could neutralize American chimeras or finish off Ukraine's energy from 70% to 15%. Kadyrov has effectively managed to organize the training of special forces, maybe Putin should instruct Ramzan Kadyrov to organize a center for the design and production of drones, photomatrices and control systems. For some reason, it seems to me that Ramzan will be able to approach interaction with calculators and designers more respectfully and reverently.

[Monster_Fat]

In vain you cite facts that lead to a break in the template of the "urakryakl". They don’t even think about such things - they are waiting for the next encouraging “speech” or cheer-chant” from the “correct sources” from those who have “everything under control” and “going according to plan”.

[MBRSS]

The President of the Russian Federation gave a number of important instructions ....

Hooray. Not even 10 years have passed ... And where was Shoigu all this time?

[Dmitry Rigov]

Sellers on aliexpress are already rubbing their hands, they haven’t presented so many “analogues” yet ...

[Joker62]

The President of the Russian Federation gave a number of important instructions regarding the development of the domestic UAV sector

This needs to be done yesterday, or rather, another 3-4 years ago and at a pace!

[Boris Sergeev]

Instruction to approve the program. How much will it then be done? If they will. Apparently, the commander-in-chief at the front is happy with everything.

[Amper]

What instructions can be given by a person who does not understand anything and is always aloof from everything, according to his own statements!? Blotter, what right?

[SpbGenn]

Will restrictions on the use of UAVs be lifted or made more difficult?!

[Monster_Fat]

Complicate. Or rather, banned altogether. Vaughn, I read that in the Volgograd region again "unidentified debris" fell from the sky, damaging two houses, fortunately, without casualties. And the authorities of the region already, after the first such case, banned the use of any drones. I wonder what kind of "debris" is constantly falling there?

[komandir8]

Military science does not pay due attention to modern technical means of reconnaissance and communications, automated control systems for troops and combat operations, it turned out that there is no aviation reconnaissance at all, and the satellite constellation is small and performs the necessary tasks to a limited extent. All the latest technology exists in prototypes .... we are always in the role of catching up, when we have already learned to get ahead and produce everything necessary for future conflicts.

[Il'nur]

The President of the Russian Federation gave a number of important instructions regarding the development of the domestic UAV sector

Not even 8 years have passed since the Maidan, during which the Ukronazis were preparing for war with us, with Russia, and after the start of the NWO, the President remembered that the country was behind in the development of UAVs, which is critical when the NWO (war) is already going on ... As Stirlitz said in the famous film: "Learning (arming - my insert) this during the battle means in advance
Doom yourself to lose, don't you?" So we don't have UAVs, or we don't have them in sufficient numbers, or just to report that we have them, and as a result, the artillery is blind, it works in the old fashioned way across areas, without target designation. It turns out that we have had artillery since the days of "galoshes", that is, without modern guidance systems, and which are, it is only for parades, and at the same time they reported in our ears that the troops have 70% of modern weapons that have no analogues ...

[Amper]

The problem is not in the copters, not in the copters ........ According to the billionaire, everyone is disappointed in Putin. “Among his entourage is a huge disappointment. Putin obviously does not know what to do. In his address [to the Federal Assembly] the plan should be announced. But there is no plan. I think he just doesn't know what to say. Of course he is isolated. He already had a very narrow circle [of communication], and now he has become even narrower,” the entrepreneur noted.
Putin's only plan is "constant attempts to get the West and Ukraine to start peace talks" through shelling and threats, the official says. But Russia's resources are dwindling, the economic and social potential of the country is being destroyed, which is not getting richer and stronger with every day the conflict continues .... Wings!? Tail!? Head is key!

[former soldier]

According to the billionaire, everyone in Putin is disappointed. “Among his entourage is a huge disappointment. Putin obviously does not know what to do. In his address [to the Federal Assembly] the plan should be announced. But there is no plan.

I wonder what plan the anonymous billionaire himself proposes? Does he really want to pay off the sanctions with all his billions?

[Fangaro]

Oh, Vladimir Vladimirovich!
And Happy New Year 2023 to you!
Where were all the boyars, that parades were held instead of shouting about problems in the economy, in the army, in the development of promising, and not ceremonial weapons, where all the employees were hiding, who could save all sorts of tank repair factories that "do not bring any benefit to the economy." ..
Where are all the "gray engineers", with their StarLink ideas, to drown out simply and without significant costs ... Where are our processors ... Elbrus, at least ...
Ah, Vladimir Vladimirovich...
But I don't see anyone else to vote for either.

[Plowman]

And what is Shoigu hiding behind his back ....

[Illanatol]

Quote: svp67

And the instruction to figure out where the money allocated for previous UAV development programs has gone, is there?

Was the money big?
They went to the Orion, Orlan, Kub-UAV, Lancet, and, of course, the S-70 Hunter.
First, we need to compare what funds we spent on the development and production of drones, and what - the United States, Israel and other leaders. Then there will be fewer questions why the results are insufficient.

[Illanatol]

Quote: Amper

.According to the billionaire, everyone in Putin is disappointed.

Isn't it to these billionaire critics that we owe "goodwill gestures"?

As they say, nothing personal, just business... which got sick because of the discord with the collective West.

[Amper]

Bines, the bourgeoisie, rules this country, and if he feels bad, bad for the hired force (people). If the dictatorial party wants to have everyone, then there are still a lot of people who want to fuck her. The result of this intercourse is already very visible over the past 10 months. Extreme, as always, the people.

[Illanatol]

Quote from cpls22

For example, we can saturate the cutting edge with smart VOGs that hit UAVs, and then the era of their dominance will pass the same way as the era of domination of manned aircraft as a result of the spread of MANPADS, or the era of domination of tanks on the battlefield, after the appearance of ATGMs on it.

Neither the era of the dominance of manned aircraft (fortunately, it can work at heights inaccessible to MANPADS), nor tanks has passed. ATGMs are also not a child prodigy, an example of the use of "jevelins" in this conflict showed this. Yes, you can find a countermeasure for every remedy, but in the end everything will be decided by competent tactics and methods of application.

[VladMirU]

Quote: BoA KAA

Quote: Denis812

Bayraktars appeared and suddenly disappeared.

They were simply swept from heaven by our air defense, TOR and Shells worked conscientiously. Here they are gone.

Quote: Denis812

And artillery plays a decisive role.

The god of war -- he always remains a GOD ! Just don't forget about the ROCKET troops - they are the ones who destroy rear facilities, reserves, break logistics ... And of course, MLRS, especially our Tornadoes, are presented in a new light --- their flying "pillars" with GLONASS seeker are very good .. The Chimera is inferior to them in terms of range, throwable weight, area of ​​destruction in conventional equipment, without high-precision equipment.
AHA.

Chimera is not inferior to ours. Why are you misleading. The Chimera has missiles with a range of 300 km. They just do not give Svidomo. But if they give it, then ours will be oh, how not sweet ....

[VladMirU]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

There are a lot of such cases, or complete inaction, where there will be no changes without the intervention of the president.
These can be individual lockers, cells in schools, or the absence of sidewalks in yards.
And in the field of armaments, the participation of the president is absolutely necessary.

If he himself recruited incompetent leaders, then he himself and drag it all.

[VladMirU]

Quote: Argon

All work was carried out to establish the vertical and now no one can sneeze without a decree from the very top.

Alas......

[VladMirU]

Quote: senima56

".... in modern realities it is almost impossible to conduct full-fledged military operations without the use of UAVs ..." But wasn't it clear 20 (or even 30) years ago following the results of world and regional conflicts?!!! Or was it necessary, as always, to wait, "when the fried cockerel pecks"?!!!

So the "head" herself admitted that she had been deceived. And apparently not the first and not the last.

[VladMirU]

Quote: Nickelium

The Russian army is more than combat-ready. But will the American one also be combat-ready in a collision with a strong enemy.

And imagine if the Americans (NATO) bring to Europe (for example, to Poland) 300 Hymers with missiles 300 km away. And if they crawl along the outskirts with enough ammunition. We will just star if we do not use nuclear weapons. Think before you throw hats.

[the same doctor]

Yes, I gave orders. Instead of concrete work - another Skolkovo with Rosnano ...

[Illanatol]

Quote: Amper

Bines, the bourgeoisie, rules this country, and if he feels bad, bad for the hired force (people). request If a dictatorial party wants to have everyone, then there are still a lot of people who want to fuck her. The result of this intercourse is already very visible over the past 10 months.

If big business had full power, there would be no SVO. The Compratodor bourgeoisie does not need such initiatives for nothing. But SVO is a fact. So not everything is decided by oil pumpers.
Everything else is past the checkout. The well-being of the bulk of the population depends little on the condition of a handful of moneybags. On the contrary, the working people will feel better when the fried cockerel will come to grips with the hollows of these gentlemen.

[Illanatol]

Quote: VladMirU

And imagine if the Americans (NATO) bring to Europe (for example, to Poland) 300 Hymers with missiles 300 km away. And if they crawl along the outskirts with enough ammunition.

Then these "chimeras" will indeed become priority targets, for which the "Iskander" missiles will not be a pity.
In fact, intercepting one larger missile with a range of 300 km is an easier task for the SAM than intercepting all six shorter-range missiles that the Ukrainians now use, firing them with packets.