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Head of Rostec: Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft plant will increase the number of Su-57 fighters produced

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Head of Rostec: Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft plant will increase the number of Su-57 fighters produced

At the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant, it is planned to increase the production of fifth-generation Su-57 fighter aircraft. This was stated by the Director General of the State Corporation "Rostec" Sergey Chemezov.


Formerly Komsomolsky-on-Amur aviation the plant produced a batch of Su-57 aircraft, they were transferred to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation as part of the supply program for 2022. This was reported in the United Aircraft Corporation of Russia (UAC).

Our aircraft plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur has completed the program for the current year for the production of fifth-generation Su-57 aviation systems and Su-35S multirole fighters for the Russian Aerospace Forces. We will continue to fulfill our obligations

- stressed the General Director of PJSC "UAC" Yuri Slyusar.

The release of more aircraft will require the plant to expand production, commission new equipment, as well as attract qualified engineers and technicians and workers.


According to the Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov, the serial production of fifth-generation aircraft at this enterprise became possible thanks to timely decisions of the state to support the modernization of the plant. Now the company has a modern final assembly line.

Su-57 is a fifth generation Russian fighter aircraft. It was developed by the experimental design bureau. ON. Dry. The aircraft made its first flight in 2017. Aircraft of this type are produced at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin.

From open sources it is known that, in addition to the Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation, the Su-57 will be supplied to the armament of the Algerian Air Force. Russian military aviation is now in particular need for the latest fighters, given the current military-political situation.
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company "Dry"; United Aircraft Corporation of the Russian Federation
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  1. Pulkovo1942
    Pulkovo1942 28 December 2022 16: 05
    -13
    Russian military aviation is now experiencing a special need for the latest fighters

    And these newest fighters will also drop bombs from the height of a lamppost under fire from MANPADS?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 28 December 2022 16: 12
      +22
      There will not be 100% protection from MANPADS for a long time. But your question is very provocative. Why would the newest fighter of the 5th field suddenly work with cast iron from ultra-low altitudes? Who will have such a cuckoo to send this plane on such a mission?
      1. topol717
        topol717 28 December 2022 16: 31
        -37
        If "stealth" is normal there, i.e. really the 5th generation, then MANPADS should not capture it. but this is only in theory.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 28 December 2022 16: 51
          +28
          Given the fact that IR GOS are usually used in MANPADS - the value of your comment ...
          1. tsvetahaki
            tsvetahaki 28 December 2022 21: 51
            -13
            Taking into account the fact that IR GOS are usually used in MANPADS

            Haven't you heard that stealth includes exhaust cooling and, in general, stealth in the IR range?
            What reduces the probability of capture and increases the probability of disruption of capture by an order of magnitude?
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 28 December 2022 22: 30
              +14
              Quote from tsvetahaki
              Haven't you heard that stealth includes exhaust cooling and, in general, stealth in the IR range?

              Law of energy conservation.
              The air conditioner takes heat from the apartment and dumps it on the street.
              The refrigerator takes heat from the chamber and dumps it into the apartment.
              Now let's move on to the plane:
              if heat was taken from the engine exhaust, where did it go?
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 28 December 2022 22: 55
                -8
                "if heat was taken from the engine exhaust, then where did it go" ///
                ----
                It was given to the cold air surrounding the aircraft.
                But not behind plane as usual
                and under the cover of panels on the sides of the nozzles.
                This is how it was done for the F-22, for the V-2
                The difference is where the heat exchange takes place.
                For stealth, this is taken into account, for 4 generations - no.
                1. Bad_gr
                  Bad_gr 28 December 2022 23: 40
                  +10
                  Quote from tsvetahaki
                  Haven't you heard that stealth includes exhaust cooling and, in general, stealth in the IR range?
                  Quote: Bad_gr
                  if heat was taken from the engine exhaust, where did it go?
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  It was given to the cold air surrounding the aircraft.

                  That's what I wanted to say: cool the exhaust or not, the plane will leave behind the same amount of heat. The fifth generation does not shine as brightly in a thermal imager, since the heat is scattered over a large area, but it is impossible to get rid of the thermal trace. Wake trail + heat left behind and, sooner or later, missiles will fly along this trail (like torpedoes in the wake of the sea).
            2. Alex_mech
              Alex_mech 29 December 2022 08: 43
              0
              To what temperature can the exhaust be cooled? Up to 20 Celsius is it possible?
        2. Plate
          Plate 28 December 2022 17: 09
          +9
          Quote from: topol717
          If "stealth" is normal there, i.e. really the 5th generation, then MANPADS should not capture it. but this is only in theory.

          Maybe it shouldn't even be visible to the eye at all? Well, what, "stealth" is the same.
        3. Wolf
          Wolf 28 December 2022 19: 03
          -6
          If you take into account that NEVA destroyed 30 from the age of 1999. martian FU117 AND B2, what then can Buk M3, or C400 ??? True, NEVA (TANYUSHA) was mature for much more than 18 years.
          1. Wolf
            Wolf 29 December 2022 20: 32
            +2
            Why was it so downvoted? NEVA REALLY DESTROYED SHIT F117 1999 (the world knows the weight) and what the world doesn’t know and B2 fell near the SPACHVANSKI FOREST IN CROATIA, NEVA HAVE ALSO KNOWN !!! Croatia and the USA then demolished several hectares of forest and land from the surface in the Spachvan forest. Yes, NEVA had an eye of 25-30 years (Serbs called her TANYUSHA)
        4. Alex_mech
          Alex_mech 29 December 2022 08: 41
          +4
          Why's that? MANPADS use infrared guidance. Does the su-57 have an engine? Even two. Hot gases coming out of the engine? Yes. So the MANPADS missile will capture the target
      2. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 29 December 2022 00: 36
        -4
        Have you heard anything about the Dry Cargo station on the Su-39 attack aircraft?
        How it works and protects the aircraft from MANPADS.
        1. Denis812
          Denis812 29 December 2022 13: 31
          +1
          There is no Su-39. There is a Su-25 and a bunch of modifications.
          Well, of course, I also had to say that the dry cargo ship is very good. OK, but it's not a panacea.
          Even war 008 showed this.
          1. Osipov9391
            Osipov9391 29 December 2022 18: 11
            0
            T-8M or T-8TM is the correct designation of the anti-tank modification of the attack aircraft.
            But this is a new aircraft with different engines in the Su-25UB airframe.
            Ethiopia may be operating 1-2 previously purchased in Russia from the Lipetsk pulp and paper industry.
            I saw the photo recently.
      3. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 29 December 2022 13: 02
        0
        He is urgent. Both the A10 and Su25 cannot fly there (there are no aircraft stronger than them). The question is where are the "eyes" over the target and where are the mass corrected ammunition, which will quickly fly to this target .... "Fast" - - also a technological problem.
      4. zenion
        zenion 29 December 2022 19: 14
        0
        wedmak. It is possible that he will not dump cast iron, but he will dump shit - that's for sure. For this he will have up to twenty barrels rusty to the top.
      5. Eroma
        Eroma 29 December 2022 23: 31
        0
        Su34 also costs 2,5 billion and 2 pilots, but it throws cast iron under MANPADS fire! Mind enough to send them feel
        It’s just that such aircraft also need appropriate weapons, but there are real problems with it, apparently recourse and these problems are from an underdeveloped concept of air warfare! belay
        So you can expect any surprises! lol
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 28 December 2022 16: 12
      0
      Quote: Pulkovo1942
      And these newest fighters will also drop bombs from the height of a lamppost under fire from MANPADS?

      Aircraft of the 4th generation can also be used from high altitudes, but front-line EW aircraft are needed.
      1. topol717
        topol717 28 December 2022 16: 34
        +7
        Electronic warfare is not needed at all, anti-radar missiles are needed. more precisely, not so, attack aircraft should be covered by RER (DLRO) aircraft and fighters with air-to-ground missiles. This is called the suppression of enemy air defenses. The Americans need a couple of days to suppress almost any air defense.
        1. Pantsuy
          Pantsuy 28 December 2022 17: 25
          +1
          Quote from: topol717
          The Americans need a couple of days to suppress almost any air defense.

          Because, unlike us, Americans learn these techniques. And all due to the fact that the enemy (you and I) initially had very strong air defense. With us, this played a cruel joke - we, hoping for a powerful Soviet (Russian) air defense and for the weakness of NATO, did not learn to overcome it. That's how it turned out - the Americans can do it, but we can't.
        2. trenkkvaz
          trenkkvaz 29 December 2022 10: 31
          +1
          Well, how did they suppress air defense in Vietnam in a couple of days?
          The United States has never encountered such a massive air defense system as in Ukraine.
          We also take into account such a factor that the Ukrainian air defense is actually helped by Western air defense, which is out of reach.
          1. Qas
            Qas 29 December 2022 14: 26
            0
            And how many years have passed since Vietnam? And the air defense hasn't changed, is everything the same?
      2. zenion
        zenion 29 December 2022 19: 17
        -2
        Dropping from the height of a lamppost is easy, the main thing is that the wheels do not slip. It will be beautiful to watch how he will swing back and forth dodging the shot. And then the lower hatch will open, for dropping and flushing with water.
    3. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 28 December 2022 16: 20
      +5
      Quote: Pulkovo1942
      Russian military aviation is now experiencing a special need for the latest fighters

      And these newest fighters will also drop bombs from the height of a lamppost under fire from MANPADS?


      For the Su-57 and other fifth generation fighters in Russia, a special corrected aerial bomb (KAB) "Thunder" was created, and in two versions at once. In the first specification, this is an aircraft-guided missile, in the second, it is a gliding munition. The uniqueness of the bomb is that it can be used against targets from any angle relative to the flight of a fighter, Viktor Fedchenko, a leading specialist in the history of armaments at the Tactical Missiles Corporation, said on the air of the Zvezda TV channel.
      1. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 28 December 2022 16: 31
        +12
        Quote from Orange Bigg
        Victor Fedchenko, a leading specialist in the history of armaments of the Tactical Missiles Corporation, said on the air of the Zvezda TV channel.

        It would be better if they told when the engine of the second stage would be ready and how many of them the Ministry of Defense plans to purchase.
        1. Plate
          Plate 28 December 2022 17: 11
          -4
          The engine is a good question. I saw the opinion that without a suitable engine, it’s more like 4 +++ something. Engines, in theory, need as many as planned for the Su-57.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 28 December 2022 17: 24
            -1
            Quote: Plate
            I saw the opinion that without a suitable engine, it’s more like 4 +++ something.

            This is true. As I understand it, the 5th generation should have supersonic speed in cruising flight mode.
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            2. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr 28 December 2022 18: 55
              +5
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: Plate
              I saw the opinion that without a suitable engine, it’s more like 4 +++ something.

              This is true. As I understand it, the 5th generation should have supersonic speed in cruising flight mode.

              The F-35 aircraft is considered the 5th generation.
              In the table F-35 in comparison with the Su-57 with the engine that is on it now (AL-41F1)

              Calculate the power-to-weight ratio of aircraft with curb weight, in afterburner mode of engine operation.
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 29 December 2022 13: 04
                0
                Not unimportant data for assessing the weight / range is the maximum speed and estimated overload. The weight of the airframe depends on this. Ceteris paribus. With the same performance, the Tu160 is twice as heavy as the pre-sonic aircraft.
          2. Alex_mech
            Alex_mech 29 December 2022 08: 47
            +1
            He has two engines. That means at least twice as much. In addition, you need a replacement stock. So 2x+30%
        2. Sergey3
          Sergey3 28 December 2022 18: 50
          +2
          And why don't you ask why rich Americans abandoned the second stage engine in their F-35 in favor of upgrading the current one? And at the same time, they do not hesitate to call their fighter exactly the 5th generation, and not 4 ++!
      2. tsvetahaki
        tsvetahaki 28 December 2022 21: 55
        +3
        The uniqueness of the bomb is ...

        Unfortunately, the uniqueness of our developments is offset by the inability to produce in sufficient quantities ...
        And not only unique things.
    4. Sergey39
      Sergey39 28 December 2022 20: 07
      +1
      You are either a provocateur or a pan-headed jumping individual! (((
      1. zenion
        zenion 29 December 2022 19: 21
        -3
        There are always provocateurs on the planet, but in Ukraine there are plenty of them. Gay Odarko godi bude perestan, more already groan! Don't let them smell the people, don't let me murmur, here is death! And this is beyond the Danube. It's scary to imagine what's going on in Ukraine itself.
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 28 December 2022 16: 09
    +2
    What the plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur has been successfully fulfilling since the summer of this year. By expanding and moderating production and recruiting personnel. Go to them on VK.
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 28 December 2022 16: 13
      -7
      they talked about the modernization of production two years ago, when Putin signed the order ... and they showed a TV report on how they assemble in vr-glasses .... and now they are modernizing again ??? and the engines of the second stage were invented, or forgotten, or sanctions were not allowed ??? and with old engines it can be knocked down from a needle / stinger :(
    2. oleg-nekrasov-19
      oleg-nekrasov-19 28 December 2022 16: 16
      +4
      It is likely that the seventh and eighth serial Su-57s entered the troops, and now the KLA is testing the second-stage Su-57 aircraft with upgraded systems and increased combat capabilities. Serial production of the second-stage Su-57 is planned to begin in 2025. So things went on. good
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 28 December 2022 16: 45
        +6
        In the SU 57 club in VK. They write about 9 serial and 11 prototypes.
  3. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 28 December 2022 16: 15
    +2
    How many of them are in the VKS?
    Six, it seems. recourse
    And some prototypes.
    1. FoBoss_VM
      FoBoss_VM 28 December 2022 16: 23
      +5
      Unfortunately very few. And the pace of construction is very low. We need another full-fledged plant, and preferably somewhere in Siberia
      1. Elephant
        Elephant 28 December 2022 16: 52
        0
        And preferably a new plant for a more compact single-engine apparatus, which will be cheaper and easier to manufacture. We saw one at the air show on the sketches
        1. Pantsuy
          Pantsuy 28 December 2022 17: 28
          +6
          Quote: Elephant
          And preferably a new plant for a more compact single-engine apparatus, which will be cheaper and easier to manufacture. We saw one at the air show on the sketches

          Something subsided in the media hype about the Su-75 "Chakmet"
          1. Sergey39
            Sergey39 28 December 2022 20: 11
            +3
            A good PR action, in the style of trampling pindo from the Tanovites!)))
      2. Sergey3
        Sergey3 28 December 2022 18: 59
        +4
        Most likely it will be so, the Su-75 loomed on the horizon, which most likely will immediately receive the engine of the second stage plus the "hunter" drone, which has been flying for more than a year.
        1. Alex_mech
          Alex_mech 29 December 2022 08: 50
          -1
          And the horizon is 19 years or 20 in your opinion?
    2. oleg-nekrasov-19
      oleg-nekrasov-19 28 December 2022 16: 45
      0
      Incomplete Squadron. Most likely attached to various fighter regiments.
  4. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 28 December 2022 16: 17
    -3
    Used in combat operations in Syria and Ukraine. In both cases, he achieved the destruction of the enemy. Also successfully exported to Algeria. Need more Su 57 devices
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 28 December 2022 16: 25
      +14
      Also successfully exported to Algeria

      Excuse me, but does your Google translator know secret information from the future???
    2. Sergey39
      Sergey39 28 December 2022 20: 14
      +7
      Ale? Su 57 exported to Algeria?
      Complete nonsense!
  5. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 28 December 2022 16: 18
    +3
    Where are you my beloved USSR!? Each research institute had a part of the defense industry! 5000000 army with which everyone and everything in this fucking world was considered! Mintyazhmash! Where?
    1. faiver
      faiver 28 December 2022 16: 34
      +8
      Where are you my beloved USSR!?
      - fell in love...
    2. Plate
      Plate 28 December 2022 17: 14
      +6
      Neither the research institutes that worked for the defense industry, nor the 5-million-strong army, nor the Mintyazhmash saved the USSR.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 28 December 2022 19: 47
        +2
        Quote: Plate
        Neither the research institutes that worked for the defense industry, nor the 5-million-strong army, nor the Mintyazhmash saved the USSR.

        The trade mafia destroyed the USSR, the communist party apparatus - the nomenklatura and naive fools ..
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 28 December 2022 22: 37
      +1
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Where are you my beloved USSR!?

      In the same place as the Roman Empire. In past.
      Now there are two options:
      1. Sit and kill yourself over the past.
      2. Building the future.
      Choose you.
    4. Alex_mech
      Alex_mech 29 December 2022 08: 51
      +3
      Putin would say "he fell apart"
  6. break_beats
    break_beats 28 December 2022 16: 27
    +10
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    Where are you my beloved USSR!? Each research institute had a part of the defense industry! 5000000 army with which everyone and everything in this fucking world was considered! Mintyazhmash! Where?


    No need to look for the USSR. It's about the people themselves. After the collapse of the USSR, a bunch of generations of speculators, crypto-investors and taxi drivers were brought up. They will lie on the couch and demand planes, but none of them will go to the factories. Yes, they don’t even understand that it is created by the same people feel
    1. Sergey3
      Sergey3 28 December 2022 19: 14
      +4
      Unfortunately, everything that you listed was already under the USSR in the 80s, it was just as obvious as it was in the 90s, because according to the law of conservation of everything and everything (and not just energy), nothing appears from anywhere and nothing disappears completely. And not only a hunchback with an alcoholic fell in love with the USSR, but also the majority of the people corrupted by the ghost of Western loss are not a good person ...
  7. Strannik96
    Strannik96 28 December 2022 16: 28
    -12
    Quote: voyaka uh
    How many of them are in the VKS?
    Six, it seems. recourse
    And some prototypes.

    Who told you military secrets? Who will tell you about the real number, or do you think you will learn something here? They will do as much as they need, and there is no need to look for information on the Internet, because. there is no real info
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 28 December 2022 16: 34
      +7
      All figures are open. How much has been transferred. And they are from MO. You just have to find and sum up.
    2. Alex_mech
      Alex_mech 29 December 2022 08: 53
      0
      How much is needed and they will do
      We need 200! How many planes will make?
  8. Maks1995
    Maks1995 28 December 2022 16: 30
    +11
    Wah! How masterfully written!
    A bunch of text and not a single number - how much has been released, how much will be released.
    In the best traditions!
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 28 December 2022 17: 50
      +3
      Quote: Max1995
      Wah! How masterfully written!
      A bunch of text and not a single number - how much has been released, how much will be released.
      In the best traditions!

      So there is someone to take an example from. The students of the "guarantor" are being looked through.
  9. garik77
    garik77 28 December 2022 16: 30
    0
    Quote from: FoBoss_VM
    Unfortunately very few. And the pace of construction is very low. We need another full-fledged plant, and preferably somewhere in Siberia

    There is still a Chkalovsky plant in Novosibirsk. In Soviet times, he produced a large number of different aircraft.
    1. Pantsuy
      Pantsuy 28 December 2022 17: 30
      +6
      Quote: garik77
      There is still a Chkalovsky plant in Novosibirsk. In Soviet times, he produced a large number of different aircraft.

      It seems to be loaded with Su-34. But those that were busy on the MiG-29 and those who did not go into the world of the MiG-35, they really are empty. Why not reclassify?
      1. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 29 December 2022 00: 40
        -1
        So instead of the Su-34, NAPO them. Chkalov for the release of the 5th generation.
        And then the first class of aircraft that has already become obsolete is hopelessly lagging behind in terms of weapons and equipment.
        He was not brought up to the level of "Strike Eagle".
  10. break_beats
    break_beats 28 December 2022 16: 30
    -6
    Quote: Strannik96
    Quote: voyaka uh
    How many of them are in the VKS?
    Six, it seems. recourse
    And some prototypes.

    Who told you military secrets? Who will tell you about the real number, or do you think you will learn something here? They will do as much as they need, and there is no need to look for information on the Internet, because. there is no real info


    Warrior is a great person! Do not swear good
  11. At Derebasovskaya
    At Derebasovskaya 28 December 2022 16: 38
    +2

    they take off like they have another video today over Novosibirsk su 57 were seen flying 4 handsome men
  12. Tektor
    Tektor 28 December 2022 16: 52
    +2
    This news is great. The order was for 76 boards in the summer of 2019 by 2028, I think. Those. with access to the production of 10 pcs. in year. In the middle of this year, there was a message about the transfer of several Su-57s, i.e. this is the second part.
    1. Sergey VTC
      Sergey VTC 28 December 2022 21: 27
      0
      And it was also announced that the Ministry of Defense will hand over orders for 2023 and 2024 in 2025. Plus, criminal liability has been introduced for non-fulfillment of the state defense order, the leadership will be shot near the "wooden workshops".
  13. Neo-9947
    Neo-9947 28 December 2022 17: 08
    +1
    The release of more aircraft will require the plant to expand production, commission new equipment, as well as attract qualified engineers and technicians and workers.

    Is this according to plan or not?
    Did the plan for the delivery of 76 fighters by 2027 imply an expansion in production?
    Or will there be more than 76 due to the international situation?
    In short, nothing is clear to me.
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 28 December 2022 19: 50
      -2
      Quote: Neo-9947
      In short, nothing is clear to me.

      In short, they will not report on the amount of production to you, not to me, not to him. And it is right . So clear!?
  14. fa2998
    fa2998 28 December 2022 17: 44
    +1
    Quote: Wedmak
    There will not be 100% protection from MANPADS for a long time.

    Protection-height over 5 km. (100%). And protection from medium-range air defense systems is why it is a 5th generation fighter! And air defense must be destroyed FIRST OF ALL. There are special ammunition that go into radiation.
    The Su-57 aircraft is needed at the front YESTERDAY! And massively, not 2-3 hi
    1. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 29 December 2022 00: 44
      0
      In general, to protect the Su-39 attack aircraft, an infrared generator "Dry cargo" was developed, standing at the tail of the aircraft.
      This is the means of protection against MANPADS blinding their guidance heads.
      On the first machines of the Tbilisi release, there were additionally blocks for ejecting heat traps in the old fashioned way.
      On the latest machines manufactured by Ulan-Ude, there were no longer any heat traps, but only the Dry Cargo.
  15. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 28 December 2022 18: 41
    -1
    Soon the United States will deliver f-15/16 or something else to Ukraine, and the first downed Western aircraft should appear in the piggy bank of the Su-57. It will be good advertising.
    1. Sergey VTC
      Sergey VTC 28 December 2022 21: 22
      -2
      American junk is outdated and "The Best" can shoot down successfully. Su35s.
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 28 December 2022 21: 59
        -4
        Of course it can, but the su-35 will leave the conveyor when the production of the su-57 gains momentum. The Su-57 will also have to be delivered abroad for sale, and the best advertisement for this is at least a few downed vehicles on its account and suppressed air defense systems. And the old ones are not old, this is the second question.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 28 December 2022 22: 40
          +3
          Quote: Herman 4223
          su-35 when the production of su-57 gains momentum, the conveyor will leave.
          Even the Americans, who have an order of magnitude more money for the army than we do, have only a small part of the 5th generation aircraft in aviation and are not going to completely switch to them.
          We will also not be able to afford it (and unnecessary)
      2. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 29 December 2022 00: 47
        0
        It's a delusion. Even not quite fresh modifications of the F-15 / F-16 are head and shoulders above all our tactical aircraft in terms of armament and equipment.
        There is one AGM-158 missile with a range of under 1000 km and JDAM bombs are worth something.
        Their analogues have not been created in Russia to this day.
        The means of defense and protection are head and shoulders superior to ours.
        1. stankow
          stankow 29 December 2022 22: 26
          0
          I don’t know about the means, but judging by you, in brainwashing, the West is two heads higher laughing laughing
          1. Osipov9391
            Osipov9391 30 December 2022 00: 24
            0
            Have you heard anything about towed radar traps from NATO and Israeli aviation?
            So, when breaking through air defense, they have been using such things for more than 20 years. We don't have anything like it, not even close.
            I studied a bunch of information on these topics and made conclusions for myself.
  16. Sebostyuan
    Sebostyuan 28 December 2022 19: 33
    +1
    It is good that the Defense Ministry made a fundamental decision to increase the aircraft in the Aerospace Forces.
    I have a debatable question. Why MO wants to create 8 BPs and only 1 IP.
    If now the Aerospace Forces are faced with the task of increasing strikes on the ground, the Fighter will cope with such a task (In the presence of modern weapons.) And if tomorrow the Aerospace Forces have to face strong Air Forces. The bomber will not conquer the sky. In addition, the problem is the lack of pilots: He is the only one on the SU-35 and SU-57. There are two Su-34s on the Su-24.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 28 December 2022 20: 13
      +1
      I have not heard information about the formation of new regiments in aviation, but it is no longer difficult to explain why the BP is no longer difficult, the main task of aviation is to influence the situation on the ground. By itself, a war in the air does not make sense if nothing changes on the ground.
      1. Sebostyuan
        Sebostyuan 28 December 2022 21: 12
        +3
        So the fact of the matter is that the SU-35 will send the KAB-500 to a target no worse than the Su-34. But at the same time, it will still be able to compete with enemy fighters for dominance.

        Info is available. I will gladly repeat it. S. Shoigu made a report at the Board of the Defense Ministry. MO decided to create: 8 -BP and 1 IP. In each TA or OA, it is planned to create an Aviation Division and an Army Aviation Brigade of 80-100 helicopters. Form 2 new divisions of the Airborne Forces, reorganize all MP brigades into DMP, reorganize 7 OMBR into MSD and create 3 new ones. In each VO of which there will now be more (ZVO will be divided into 2 LenVO and MVO) to create Art.D and ArtBr.
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 28 December 2022 22: 22
          -3
          Su-34 is a fighter bomber, it can also conduct air combat. But most importantly, it is better suited to strike on the ground, the crews are also better trained in this regard. Yes, and the aircraft itself is cheaper than the Su-35, according to the price tags of 10 years ago, though the Su-34 cost 1,5 billion rubles, and the Su-35 2 billion rubles. 8 regiments is about 200 vehicles, can you imagine the difference in price? Plus, they will most likely take the Su-24s that they have from storage, and then they will gradually replace them with the Su-34s. But new fighters need to be built in this case, the old ones may exist, but they do not have multifunctionality, the old Su-27s or MiG-29s do not know how to work very well on the ground, and the control system there is more complex, for the regiment these are special command points with their radars.
          1. Osipov9391
            Osipov9391 29 December 2022 01: 00
            -3
            Su-34 in terms of equipment and weapons is hopelessly outdated.
            25-30 years outdated.
            He loses to the Shock Eagle in everything.
            The aircraft does not have planning bombs of the JDAM type that allow bypassing military air defense - they simply do not exist in Russia and it is not adapted for them.
            There are also no tactical cruise missiles of the AGM-158 level that allow the aircraft to operate outside the long-range air defense systems - they do not exist in Russia.

            Its most long-range armament, the X-59 "Gadfly", even in its latest modifications, is hopelessly outdated and flies 3-4 times closer than its American counterpart.
            In addition, it requires manual control and targeting of radio command and television channels with the help of a navigator and a small lever.
            The principle let-forgot is not here.

            As for the capabilities of air combat, all that this aircraft can shoot down is a transporter, cruise missile or helicopter.
            In all other respects, in this regard, even the Su-27 and MiG-29 lose.

            The optical system "Platan" is hopelessly outdated. A 30-year-old development that has not even been brought close to a modern container hanging type.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 29 December 2022 09: 08
              +1
              You don’t just pull hard on the eagle, otherwise something will come off stop , we do not have such a variety of weapons as in NATO, but we have planning bombs. Thunder, drill. I am sure that there will be other samples, and maybe there are already. X-59 in the export modification flies for 280 km. There is just such a restriction on the supply of missiles with a range of more than 300 km, you can search on the Internet, I'm just too lazy. The option for our videoconferencing flies further and as far as no one knows, because it's a secret. Some suggest 400km. Even the s400 from such a range, this aircraft will not reach. And it’s strange that, according to open data, these missiles and bombs can fly via GLONASS without distracting the pilot, but you don’t know. But you know about the small lever about which there is nothing.
              1. Osipov9391
                Osipov9391 29 December 2022 13: 09
                +1
                A small lever for diving and controlling the Kh-59 is found on the Su-34, Su-30SM and Su-30M2.
                It is located under the right hand of the navigator and is needed to control this rocket.
                For aiming a missile at a target. And this complicates the entire system and reduces the reliability of weapons.
                Especially when the plane needs to leave after the attack.
                The navigator or pilot in the second cockpit also needs to work with the lever to point it at the target.
                It is still unrealistic to bring the Kh-59MK-2 to the level of AGM-158, there the range is about 1000 km.

                It was better then to create something supersonic based on BrahMos.
                But this is not the case either.
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 29 December 2022 13: 50
                  -2
                  What is stirred up on the basis of "Zircon" but smaller in size. And X-5- (short X-101) square in section.
                  1. Osipov9391
                    Osipov9391 29 December 2022 18: 15
                    0
                    The Indians for the Su-30MKI had such interests.
                    But they have BrahMos.
                    Our tactical aircraft do not have.
                    Back in the 90s, there was an attempt to attach the Onyx to the Su-33 between the air intakes.
                    But it didn't work - there was no interest.
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  17. shurshun
    shurshun 28 December 2022 20: 09
    +3
    The statement about the "timeliness" of the state's decisions to support the modernization and expansion of the plant sounds strongly. Keep it up! lol
  18. Fangaro
    Fangaro 28 December 2022 20: 34
    +3
    This is not information, but a report on achievements. "To the anniversary..."
    Not a professional, only an urgent one, but from an old sofa, the phrase about "in less than 5 months, the Air Force of the Russian Federation was replenished with 274 SU-57 aircraft" would look more intimidating than without figures and numbers at all.
    In the civil economy and the struggle for consumers, these techniques are regularly used. Yes, no one believes, but everyone is afraid that "this brand will be released now and everyone will go to hell. We must either do something or divide the market."
  19. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 28 December 2022 20: 37
    0
    For your information, the contract with Algeria has already been signed.
  20. Sergey VTC
    Sergey VTC 28 December 2022 21: 18
    -1
    As long as it's not too late. World War II began under similar macroeconomic circumstances. The third will start very soon.
  21. Ilgizl
    Ilgizl 28 December 2022 21: 35
    -5
    It would be nice to have a second plant closer to the western borders. And so you can only congratulate.
    1. Expert
      Expert 28 December 2022 22: 14
      +3
      Closer - where is it? To Engels or even closer?
      1. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 29 December 2022 01: 02
        0
        Lukhovitsy, Sokol, Novosibirsk for example.
  22. VladimirNET
    VladimirNET 28 December 2022 22: 52
    -1
    Quote: Wedmak
    There will not be 100% protection from MANPADS for a long time.

    And why doesn’t he throw bombs - from a GREAT height? For example, 10-15 km.
    Or get out of there - we can not?
    1. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 29 December 2022 01: 03
      +1
      But because there is no such weapon in Russia.
      To this day, no.
      The aiming and correction module for turning an ordinary bomb into a smart gliding one was developed by NPO Bazalt 20 years ago.
      But it was not released. There was no interest from the military department.
    2. Alex_mech
      Alex_mech 29 December 2022 08: 59
      0
      Or get out of there - we can not?
      You can get in. With a probability of 0.99 we will hit the ground with a bomb
    3. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 29 December 2022 13: 52
      +1
      We still need to know where we are throwing. Bombs are shown. The delay was recognized and something is being produced.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnLhu5XEixM
  23. KrolikZanuda
    KrolikZanuda 28 December 2022 23: 34
    +1
    How about increasing the production of SU-35 and SU-34?
    1. Osipov9391
      Osipov9391 29 December 2022 01: 05
      -2
      The first one can be considered a modern aircraft and is needed to replace conventional Su-27s being decommissioned.
      The second is hopelessly outdated in terms of armament and equipment. It loses to the "Strike Eagle" in almost everything, and it is pointless to produce such an aircraft today.
      Requires replacement based on Su-30M2 or Su-30SM, but with expanded armament/equipment.
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 29 December 2022 13: 54
      -2
      Su30SM2 - brought to the level of Su35S ...... the Su35S itself was written to be considered as a carrier of avionics from the Su57.

      In general, we need a single Su30 with avionics and turbojet engines, by analogy with the Su57M. And get rid of the variety of Dry. As long as the Su57 and Su75 get on the wing, such a Su30 will serve very well for another 30 years.
  24. Alex_mech
    Alex_mech 29 December 2022 08: 39
    +1
    the plant produced a batch of Su-57 aircraft, they were transferred to the Ministry of Defense
    It would be interesting to know the size of this "party". Is the party more than one or more than two?
  25. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 29 December 2022 13: 07
    -1
    It is desirable to put things in order in the unification of the assortment of Dry. Today Su34 / 35 / 30 ... 57 does not have a single unit in common. No turbojet engines, no radars, no avionics. You can't build a big series in such cases. The Me109 in WWII was made in Germany and half of the aircraft in the Czech Republic .... and then everything was docked with them.
  26. AlexanderAlexander
    AlexanderAlexander 29 December 2022 19: 25
    +1
    Beautifully written. Oh, and it's true...
  27. AlexWar
    AlexWar 29 December 2022 20: 00
    +1
    Not a word about the Su-34, but they are now the same workhorses in the Ukrainian conflict, not a word about adjustable bombs that could hang on the Su-34 either.
    It is necessary to build up everything new, and the sooner the better. All that will then remain after the war to the NZ warehouses, or for sale. Although I believe that all new weapons will be in demand after this conflict.
  28. storm
    storm 30 December 2022 00: 25
    +2
    The release of more aircraft will require the plant to expand production, commission new equipment, as well as attract qualified engineers and technicians and workers.


    How much more?
    If an aircraft factory produces fewer aircraft than is necessary to complete one combat regiment per year, it cannot be efficient.
  29. Codett
    Codett 30 December 2022 13: 50
    0
    Is it really possible that they will do not 2 a year, but 3, but in general it is surprising that they don’t say that our airborne forces work with freely falling bombs and because of this they suffer losses since there is no required number of corrected and guided bombs, so it might be worth increasing their production, and not only Su 57, because maybe someone will again have the idea to use it in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbenemy air defense to strike with conventional bombs
  30. VladimirNET
    VladimirNET 31 December 2022 01: 44
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Being late admitted
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnLhu5XEixM

    Now it’s clear why the US has nuclear bombs:
    because they are ALL planned...

    By the way, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYWHERE - that this lag was accepted, on the contrary:
    1) 20.02.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX - the acceptance into service was postponed:
    https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/225230/

    2) 18.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX - Russia overcame the backlog in the field of creating adjustable bombs (like "we can someday start production"):
    https://dzen.ru/a/Y3y8J9b4C17DCDPV

    3) 22.10.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX - here the author of the article concludes that back in the USSR they decided that we don’t need bombs at all:
    https://dzen.ru/a/Y3y8J9b4C17DCDPV

    And if we proceed from the fact that we "live only at the expense of developments from the USSR", then everything falls into place:
    we simply do not have such productions.

    And if the release is adjusted by 2025, it will be too late, that's SUCH things ...