Head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation: The Russian industry is waiting for the transition to a new development model

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Head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation: The Russian industry is waiting for the transition to a new development model

Russian industry in 2023 is expected to move to a new development model. And she will have to face many challenges.

About this in interview Denis Manturov, the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation, told the TASS agency.



The next 2023 will, in fact, be a transitional year from the period of the introduction of unprecedented sanctions and the withdrawal of foreign manufacturers of equipment from our country to a new development model and, therefore, in many respects decisive

- considers the vice-premier.

He stated that to a large extent this concerns the domestic aircraft industry. Now she releases for civilian aviation aircraft containing in their design a large number of foreign-made components. But next year, their supply will be terminated, and the new equipment will use only parts manufactured by manufacturers from Russia.


In 2023, all aircraft engines and units, Manturov said, will be replaced by domestic ones, so that the appearance of the aircraft mass-produced by our industry becomes completely Russian. For example, plans for the next year include the production of two SSJ-NEW units without the use of imported components. Before that, the aircraft will be tested and certified. And by 2024, its serial production is planned. It is also expected to complete the import substitution program for MS-21 in order to launch it into series in 2024.
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  1. +7
    December 28 2022
    The next 2023 will be, in fact, a transitional year from the period of the introduction of unprecedented sanctions and withdrawal of foreign manufacturers of equipment from our country to a new development model and therefore in many respects decisive
    They only threaten and promise, but they will stay and mischief. They will have to be kicked out. And it is high time to make the components ourselves, but there is no desire of the leaders.
    1. +10
      December 28 2022
      Everything is waiting and waiting. While some still have some kind of hope that they will again dangle there and row the loot here, they will not move. Now, without the development of its electronics and a number of industries in Russia, there will be no stable country.
    2. +2
      December 28 2022
      I really want to see the punishment of people who slowed down imports. since 2014, when the vector of relations with partners was absolutely clear. I remember how GDP in 2018 habitually already complained about partners that they "unexpectedly" and illegitimately stopped supplying composites for the MS-21 wing. Even then, I wanted to sigh wearily looking at the "sagacity" of higher officials.
  2. +19
    December 28 2022
    And besides the aircraft industry, there are no other industries?
    There are continuous problems around from small household appliances to electronics and mechanical engineering.
    1. +6
      December 28 2022
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      And besides the aircraft industry, there are no other industries?

      But why? The development model hardly applies only to the aircraft industry. Here is his quote
      The next 2023 will, in fact, be a transitional year from the period of the introduction of unprecedented sanctions and the withdrawal of foreign manufacturers of equipment from our country to a new development model and, therefore, in many respects decisive
      But what is behind this? What is the "new model of development"? At least a hint, well, a half-hint, well, some kind of Aesopian language. But no, not a word. Only blah blah blah.
      1. +10
        December 28 2022
        Quote: Vladimir Postnikov
        What is the "new model of development"?

        Import substitution 2.0.
        The first one was not very successful.
        And the second, I understand, will be a hasty transfer to Chinese spare parts and equipment.
        1. +1
          December 28 2022
          Quote: Stas157
          Import substitution 2.0.
          The first one was not very successful.
          And the second, I understand, will be a hasty transfer to Chinese spare parts and equipment.

          May be. An unplowed field for fantasies and ridicule. The main thing is to crow. Here D. Manturov crowed.
      2. +5
        December 28 2022
        Can they stop stealing? Cut the budget?
        Although not .. It's too innovative and unrealistic ...
    2. +1
      December 28 2022
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      And besides the aircraft industry, there are no other industries?
      There are continuous problems around from small household appliances to electronics and mechanical engineering.

      He probably meant independence only from Western suppliers. It was he who until recently slowed down the aircraft industry in our country.
  3. +2
    December 28 2022
    And why was it transferred to the "old model of development"?
    1. +1
      December 29 2022
      Well, it's time to get used to this "bird language", when instead of the truth and calling things by their proper names, they come up with streamlined, scientific names. Instead of saying "hard times are ahead" they say: "a new reality", instead of saying "it's not clear what will start, a complete mess" they say: "the transition to a new development model will begin", instead of saying it will not only be difficult, but very difficult" they say: "you will have to face a lot of challenges", by the way, this simultaneously justifies possible future "failures" - "challenges" then - "many" ... wink
  4. +5
    December 28 2022
    What prevented the Industrial Leap from being made - together with all the countries of the world 30 years ago?
    1. +12
      December 28 2022
      Quote: Boniface
      What prevented the Industrial Leap from being made - together with all the countries of the world 30 years ago?

      Liberation! "Global" corruption of the Russian officials Anti-communist, anti-socialist manic syndrome of the ruling regime, political and economic dementia and limited thinking of the top of the ruling regime!
      1. 0
        December 29 2022
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Quote: Boniface
        What prevented the Industrial Leap from being made - together with all the countries of the world 30 years ago?

        Liberation! "Global" corruption of the Russian officials Anti-communist, anti-socialist manic syndrome of the ruling regime, political and economic dementia and limited thinking of the top of the ruling regime!

        Is that how you otchekhvostili the Politburo and the Central Committee of the CPSU ???
        The surge of new technologies (including computerization) just happened in the 1980s and early 1990s
    2. 0
      December 28 2022
      Quote: Boniface
      with all the countries of the world 30 years ago?

      Gorbachev and EBN...
      1. +3
        December 28 2022
        Putin has been in power for 22 years ... these are 4,5 Soviet five-year plans ...
    3. -2
      December 28 2022
      You are out of your mind after 1991, betrayals across the board. For 15 years nothing could be done. Capitalists have been developing their technology for decades and then worsen some parameters in terms of durability. And you want to catch up and overtake the country in the miserable years at the level of the poorest countries in Africa, and everything has already been rotten since the distant 70s.
      1. +2
        December 28 2022
        Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
        Capitalists have been developing their technology for decades and then worsen some parameters in terms of durability.

        Quite right, there is a person on YouTube who sorts out about "everyday life", if they, Europe, cut the resource and quality for their own, then for V.E. and the post-USSR drive complete slag under famous brands, motorists sadly recall the "Japanese" "Germans" of the late 90s and early 2000s, the Boshik s / m has been working properly since 08, but the old man has already fallen ill.
      2. 0
        December 28 2022
        read what enterprises were built during the first five-year plan, during the second. (The third fell on the war) ... of course, in 15 years it is impossible to do ANYTHING ... especially if you do NOTHING ...

        17 years after the Second World War, one country managed to launch the first man into space. and before that, the first artificial satellite of the Earth ... in that country in which 27 million BEST young people died, thousands of cities and towns were destroyed ...

        and for some reason at that time "everything is already rotten" ...
        1. +2
          December 29 2022
          Quote: Nikolay310
          read what enterprises were built in the first five-year plan, in the second

          Albert Kahn knowingly rowed the loot with an excavator ....
          The trouble is that in the last 30 years no one has been eager to sell us factories ... Well, there was no Great Depression now ...
          And yes, if it weren’t for her, it’s not at all a fact that we could then buy non-factories
          Quote: Nikolay310
          27 million BEST died young people people,
          but this requires clarification - even in the spacecraft, with 7,5 million losses, not only young people died - 50-year-old wagonmen also died.
          And in civilian life they died from babies to 100 year olds - bombs / shells were not sorted
        2. 0
          December 29 2022
          You are comparing the incomparable. During the Second World War, factories from the west were moved beyond the Urals and everything worked. And you propose with an empty treasury after the USSR and with Yeltsin to pull advanced inventions with a bare backside. Have you even opened the audio equipment that you sold during the USSR? What is there, Japan is the 16th republic of the USSR.
    4. +4
      December 28 2022
      Yeah, the Yankees would have made an industrial leap, not for this they helped to destroy the union and our enterprises, especially in the field of aviation and electronics. They did everything to make Russia 100% dependent on the West, both in the field of production and in the field of logistics and services. Everything that is being done now began with the advent of Putin, thirty years ago we sold only oil, gas, timber, metals, and then through gray schemes and without taxes, everything settled in the Cayman Islands, the country was simply robbed by the Americans and the West, well-known rich Jews the same, not all of us have passports of other states, which is why I say that I robbed the West.
    5. 0
      December 28 2022
      Greed, formalism, an abundance of parasitic structures over the real sector.
  5. +9
    December 28 2022
    Again they will "rob" ...
  6. +2
    December 28 2022
    As I understand it, the authorities secretly allocated trillions of rubles for the development of their production, primarily microelectronics, electronics, machine tool building? We are changing one foreign one for another of less quality, but no less expensive! It is not from a good life for cars that the production of old 8-cylinder engines is being revived , and you can forget about the production of new ones with this approach forever!
  7. +7
    December 28 2022
    He stated that to a large extent this concerns the domestic aircraft industry.
    That is, this does not apply to other industries? Either import substitution has already been carried out there or new suppliers have been found? Like, for example, the Moskvich car made from Chinese components?
  8. +11
    December 28 2022
    Russian industry in 2023 is expected to move to a new development model. And she'll have to face a lot of challenges

    every year since 2014 they’ve been pouring this into their ears, but they haven’t learned anything to do their own ... and all the time they postpone the deadlines for a year ahead, then for another year ... and the excuses are the same: "unprecedented sanctions", "coronavirus restrictions", "violations of supply chains" ... do they really think that the population of Russia is such an idiot?
    1. 0
      December 28 2022
      Quote: Vladimir80
      ... do they really think that the population of Russia are such idiots?

      Well, they do vote. wink
      1. +1
        December 28 2022
        Quote: Sovetskiy
        Quote: Vladimir80
        ... do they really think that the population of Russia are such idiots?

        Well, they do vote. wink

        Your logic is, shall we say, peculiar... Democracy is a marketing fiction. If, in a simple way, power, in my opinion, is a derivative of society in the country, and the main problems in the country cannot be solved by one vote.
    2. +2
      December 28 2022
      No, not since 2014.
      I hear this before every new year since the 90s: "next year will be difficult, but we must be patient"
      Life is already passing, but still "we endure another year"
      1. -1
        December 28 2022
        You be patient ... and Russia is building and doing, but you don’t need this - you and your kind have one mantra "Everything is lost", read at your leisure. http://rus.vrw.ru/page/vacircnbspmoskve-otkryto-novoe-proizvodstvo-avtokomponentov
    3. -4
      December 28 2022
      Yes, no idiot, I see only here, in my opinion you're just a provocateur or stupid. Why don’t you see how everything is changing around, or maybe you’re just small and didn’t know life in the 90s when the Americans ruled everything in the country, similar to what is happening now in the territory of 404?
  9. +5
    December 28 2022
    Head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation: The Russian industry is waiting for the transition to a new development model

    New - well-forgotten old. In the USSR, ministers did not receive 700 million rubles a year, and the salary of miners and some specialists in the mining and fishing industry was higher than the 600-800 rubles that the ministers earned ...
    The socialist model of production and the principle: from each according to his ability, to each according to his work, is not a new, but the best model of development...
    And it's time to return the article on parasitism ...
    * * *
    When I hear this figure, I always remember Vsevolod Sanaev in Optimistic Tragedy:
    1. -2
      December 28 2022
      However, the USSR minister lived incomparably better than a miner and had access to benefits that a miner could not even dream of (a personal driver with a Volga, "personal" doctors, access to a special store, etc.), the children of the USSR minister also had much more chances to enter Moscow universities than the children of miners.
      1. +7
        December 28 2022
        However, the Minister of the USSR lived incomparably better than a miner
        Those. Minister of the Russian Federation, lives many times worse than the Soviet minister?
      2. +6
        December 28 2022
        Quote from: filibuster
        However, the USSR minister lived incomparably better than a miner and had access to benefits that a miner could not even dream of (a personal driver with a Volga, "personal" doctors, access to a special store, etc.), the children of the USSR minister also had much more chances to enter Moscow universities than the children of miners.

        I am from the provinces and studied at the Moscow University.
        He acted without any cronyism in the competition.
        We also had children from the villages. And at the Faculty of Automation and Telemechanics.
        Muscovites in our group were 20%.
        1. -1
          December 28 2022
          Did I write that it was not possible, I was talking about the chances and it was much more difficult for the son / daughter of a miner from Kemerovo to enter MGIMO than for the son / daughter of a USSR minister.
          1. +2
            December 28 2022
            And now a miner from Kemerovo can pay for his studies at a university? Well, the miner can and can. And the children of a turner, welder, locksmith, without getting into a debt hole???
            1. -2
              December 28 2022
              Quote: Siberia55
              And now a miner from Kemerovo can pay for his studies at a university?

              And what, free places in universities have already been canceled? There are brains - act and learn. What is the problem?
              1. +1
                December 29 2022
                The place is free, but life in the capital is not cheap ..
                1. +1
                  December 29 2022
                  Quote: Guran33 Sergey
                  but life in the capital is not cheap ..

                  And life in the capital has never been cheap, and the opportunity to support a child in the capital is also not available to everyone, either now or before. And universities are not only in the capital.
          2. +3
            December 28 2022
            And remember, VV Zhirinovsky said that he entered Moscow State University only because he came from God knows where (from Alma-Ata). The squad worked. True, the role of the individual in this case cannot be excluded from the calculation :)))
        2. +6
          December 28 2022
          Do the children of ministers need the Faculty of Automation and Telemechanics? You are deeply mistaken. Here at MGIMO - this is a different story.
        3. 0
          December 29 2022
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          And at the Faculty of Automation and Telemechanics.
          Muscovites in our group were 20%.

          Because then you had to work with your hands, and for this there were Soviet guest workers - "limit" and guys from the villages. But to the journalism department of Moscow State University or at MGIMO - even unexamed "Afghans" hardly passed. There is not even a conversation about ordinary children ... .
      3. +1
        December 29 2022
        A miner has an industrial sanatorium and a rest house on the northern coast of the Black Sea and near Georgian healing springs, but not alone, his own clinic and hospital is the only difference, loading coal is not a language to work ... Yes, and the responsibility is different - the miner has a life tied to the minister on job title..
    2. +2
      December 28 2022
      Quote: yuriy55
      Head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation: The Russian industry is waiting for the transition to a new development model

      New - well-forgotten old. In the USSR, ministers did not receive 700 million rubles a year, and the salary of miners and some specialists in the mining and fishing industry was higher than the 600-800 rubles that the ministers earned ...
      The socialist model of production and the principle: from each according to his ability, to each according to his work, is not a new, but the best model of development...
      And it's time to return the article on parasitism ...
      * * *
      When I hear this figure, I always remember Vsevolod Sanaev in Optimistic Tragedy:

      My friend was fishing in the Far East.
      Salary 900-1000 rubles. was normal.
      1. +1
        December 28 2022
        in the USSR, ministers also received portfolios not because they were the sons of Patrushev or some other boys who performed well, but they themselves went through the chain from a hard worker to a minister. a good example is the minister of the coal industry Shchadov. who in the famous TV series Chernobyl was shown as some kind of clown and rogue ... but in general, that character is more like Manturov than the real Shchadov
  10. -4
    December 28 2022
    Quote: Boniface
    What prevented the Industrial Leap from being made - together with all the countries of the world 30 years ago?


    The surrender of national interests by the first persons of the state leading to Vladimir Vladimirovich
  11. +8
    December 28 2022
    Not even a year had passed, as they say, and the Joe Indians realized that it was necessary to produce something at home. And then everything, market, market, we will buy.
    1. +2
      December 28 2022
      And then everything, market, market, we will buy.
      So maybe they bought all the years, saved for a "rainy day" and this day has come and the accumulated reserves will be used .. smile
    2. +3
      December 28 2022
      The Indians realized that it was necessary to produce something at home

      the Indians understood this back in 2014, but the leaders decided "why produce, it's easier to re-stick the stickers, and prepare the appropriate reporting"
  12. -1
    December 28 2022
    It remains only for our people to understand that aircraft need to be serviced (this requires technical centers around the world), promoted to the market, and organized leasing.
  13. +5
    December 28 2022
    Russian industry expects a transition to a new development model

    And will it be a negative development (a term from the Russian newspeak), or is it still a classic, progressive one? If the second option, then due to what factors, what are the prerequisites for this? If they exist, these prerequisites, then why didn't they work in previous decades?
  14. +2
    December 28 2022
    It’s necessary to wait decades for an awesome kick in the ass, so that only now can you somehow begin to understand the bastardity of the existing socio-economic model for building and functioning of the state! fool
    1. +1
      December 28 2022
      so they don’t understand even now ... and they believe that if you stick the Moskvich brand on a Chinese car, then this is already PRODUCTION ... the only thing that all these Pu, Sho, Na, Xi can produce (not to be confused with Chinese) and other Manturovs are chatter, chatter and promises for which no one is ultimately responsible
  15. +3
    December 28 2022
    This official in Russia has a decisive year in 2023 ...., on the outskirts, also a decisive one, according to the clown .... And what, at the end of 2021, the issue of import substitution was not raised? It seems that they have also been under sanctions since 2014, or is it something else?
  16. +2
    December 28 2022
    The Dutch disease prevented the race. Everyone believed that oil, gas and other raw materials are our everything. Own production was practically killed. Why develop your own electronics when everything is on the market. Go and buy. That's just no one thought, but what will we do if they do not sell. And so on in all industries in fact.
    Now the Ministry of Industry and Trade has attended to the introduction of labeling for domestically produced electronics. This is of course much more important than the actual electronics :)
    1. +2
      December 28 2022
      Quote: Yakut
      The Dutch disease prevented the race.

      Exactly. And Vladimir Putin's team has cherished this disease for the past 23 years. After the version of the "new development model" version of the "60 latitude" concept was discarded in 2005, at the end of the same year my first publicist article "A Bubble for Fools" was published. https://disk.yandex.ru/i/umJc-Ws1XDcprw
      Quote from there: "there is the Netherlands, and there is Saudi Arabia." It should be understood as follows: what is indicated for the Arabs is a disease for the Dutch.
      They didn't want to be treated. Well, over the past 17 years, metastases have only "expanded and deepened."
  17. +3
    December 28 2022
    In 2014 we talked about import substitution. But even then, some began to leave. You could start doing something. But who wants to fuss. Now everything is more serious. However, inside Russia they will produce wooden cars on square wheels. And they will explain to the people that these are the intrigues of Bidon, Zeleny, enemies in order to justify their unwillingness to work for the good of Russia, but you can always think of it.
    1. -1
      December 28 2022
      from the good, agriculture has moved all the same since the 14th year. if there were even smarter people there who would not be chasing bare numbers and record export figures ...

      processing grain for flour and livestock feed (as well as the growth of the livestock itself) is much more productive than reporting record grain export rates. with the same record growth in bread prices within the country
      1. 0
        January 2 2023
        What does the state have to do with agriculture. People decide for themselves what to grow and sell. Therefore, it develops. Although it will soon become difficult for ordinary people to rent land. Pro-government people grab all the good land.
  18. 0
    December 28 2022
    restore late create from 0
  19. +1
    December 28 2022
    I'm really looking forward to the SSZh and MS .... this is even more important than the Su57.
  20. +9
    December 28 2022
    With such Manturovs, the remnants of industry will fall apart ....
  21. JPD
    0
    December 28 2022
    Manturov chattering his tongue, where, what he gets, it’s not clear, damn magician ....
  22. +3
    December 28 2022
    Russian industry in 2023 expects a transition to a new development model
    - it becomes somehow scary, as we have a new model, the fifth point necessarily comes
  23. +5
    December 28 2022
    Manturov will reform. It was he and Khristenko (Golikova's husband) who ruined the aviation industry. And now it is "optimizing" the entire economy under the guise of reforms. The common people see and understand all this, but it does not reach the Kremlin. Or is it done on purpose? request
    And, probably, it seemed to Manturov that the 740 earned by "overwork" over the past year was not enough. In the troubled waters of the reforms, it is more convenient for him to fish.
  24. +1
    December 28 2022
    national projects, May Decrees 1 and 2, strategy 2020... how much can you talk? Maybe it's time to finally do something? and it’s even better to make room for those who can and know how to create, and not just “pass out” a Chinese car for a Moskvich
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  26. +1
    December 29 2022
    The fact that import substitution failed miserably is Manturov's direct fault.
    For this, apparently, he was also given the Deputy Prime Minister)
  27. +2
    December 29 2022
    Is it only about aviation that his soul should hurt? Minister of Industry and Trade Manturov, among other things, heads the Military-Industrial Commission, which should coordinate the work of federal departments in the field of the military-industrial complex and implement the military-technical support of the state. The President personally entrusted control over the commission's work to Medvedev. Medvedev's powers will allow him to independently approve government orders, make decisions on the modification of weapons and allocate funding within the limit approved by the president with the task of increasing the production capacity of a number of industry enterprises and ensuring that the required weapons are sent to the troops. How was this issue resolved in the past? On the eve of the war, the core of the defense industry was four all-Union sectoral people's commissariats of the defense industry: the people's commissariat of the aviation industry (NKAP), the people's commissariat of ammunition (NKB), the people's commissariat of armaments (NKV) and the people's commissariat of the shipbuilding industry (NKSP), formed in accordance with the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR dated 11 January 1939 by splitting the people's commissariat of the defense industry of the USSR. They became a separate group of central government bodies, designed to provide measures for the implementation of strategic decisions of the military-political leadership of the country. An objective assessment of the compliance of people's commissariats with their mission was the results of their activities in wartime conditions. Before the advent of the era of "great liberalization" the Ministry of Defense has always been a customer. It was directly involved in the preparation of materials aimed at substantiating and developing program documents for the development of weapons (the General Staff of the Armed Forces, the office of the Deputy Minister of Defense of the USSR for armaments - the chief of armaments of the Armed Forces) together with the directorates of the commanders in chief and the main headquarters of the Armed Forces, commanders and headquarters of the military branches.
    Decisions on the development of weapons and military equipment were made at the highest party and state levels. All organizational and directive work in this direction was carried out by a special body - the Commission of the Presidium of the Council of Ministers of the USSR on military-industrial issues (VPK), which was headed by a chairman in the rank of deputy prime minister, which ensured sufficient efficiency of the work of the military-industrial complex and the authority of its decisions.
    Scientific research was carried out in military research institutes and universities. The system worked without failure. How competent are the above-mentioned persons in the field of the defense industry and members of the commission to make decisions on issues of the state's defense capability and provide the front with weapons and ammunition?
  28. +1
    December 29 2022
    The head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation, Denis Manturov, must explain what he has been doing for the past 10 years...
    1. 0
      December 30 2022
      He has no time to deal with state affairs ... Personal business cannot wait
  29. +1
    December 29 2022
    I think that our industry is in for a complete decline. I don't listen to slogans, I follow events. on the example of our plant. now, after the departure of the foreigners, things at the plant are especially sad. and the outlook is not bright. but there are many beautiful words in the spirit of the last five-year plans of stagnation - we will overtake and overtake, we will catch up soon! but so far, in reality, even just to start an uninterrupted production, you need to do a lot. and from this list of priority cases, well, as it were, 50% do not depend on us. we used to have subcontractors throughout the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. now they are gone. it is possible to establish the production of components ourselves, but for this it is necessary to restore the plant itself in the form it was before 85, and this will require enormous material resources - at one time the plant was built by the entire union. well, then the system was socialist and the party could order, and the people to answer - yes. now it is not possible to order. there are no such laws. no one will spend money and effort on an already practically dead enterprise whose shares are not quoted at all. and a very important point - now there are no human resources for working professions. We don't have vocational training. that is, I see the depth into which we have sunk. but the light from above does not even dawn. and yes - do not consider me an all-propalshchik. I am already a pensioner and, in principle, even if everyone is thrown out into the street tomorrow, I will not disappear. But the city will be hard.
  30. 0
    December 29 2022
    Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko
    . Do you want to catch up and overtake the country in miserable years at the level of the poorest countries in Africa,

    Are we a POOR COUNTRY? We have the entire periodic table in the depths. The engineering, design building is magnificent. It can be an example of the military-industrial complex. It is necessary to ruin everything, and sell only energy carriers. And America is to blame! hi negative negative negative
    1. 0
      December 31 2022
      I understand. You probably didn’t receive humanitarian aid in the early 90s. But for a long time I remembered Turkish margarine cookies. The design corps needs to be funded. You probably didn’t lose money from the savings account and didn’t wait for a salary for half a year, or even more.
      It's amazing what a short memory people have.

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