Migrants expand Russian drug market

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Migrants expand Russian drug market


Who is to blame?


Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev at the last Anti-Drug Committee announced alarming figures - up to 80 percent of criminal offenses committed by migrants are associated with drug trafficking. In addition to the usual phrases about the need to strengthen control and tightening, Kolokoltsev expressed a completely fair opinion:



“Despite the fact that 16 departments in our country are beneficiaries of migrant labor, and society asks for this site only from the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Through our department, all the relevant instructions to the local territorial bodies have already been given. I ask representatives of other departments and employers to pay attention to this section.”

Quite right, drug trafficking is a multi-headed hydra, and it is necessary to fight the infection in a comprehensive manner. If builders, as they say, cannot do without foreign labor and bring in hundreds of thousands of guest workers from Central Asia, then it is probably wrong to blame all the consequences only on the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB. Especially in the light of a special operation that requires additional effort.


Source: telegra.ph

If you look at the numbers, it is not surprising that it is among guest workers that the drug trade flourishes. And not just thriving, but gaining strength. From 3 to 5 million foreign citizens enter Russia every year, who subsequently work illegally.

This is official data - in fact, the number of illegal immigrants can be safely multiplied by two. Mostly these are people from the countries of Central Asia - Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan. Each migrant who is not formally employed poses several threats to Russia at once.

First, the budget receives less taxes and fees.

Secondly, a shadow mechanism for financing illegal labor is being launched.

Thirdly, a migrant living on “bird rights” is forced to turn to criminal structures for protection. To all appearances, this is very beneficial for the very 16 departments that Vladimir Kolokoltsev spoke about. No matter how hard our valiant police try, they will never be able to catch criminals faster than departments will let muddy migrants in.

In Central Asia, the system of supplying drugs to Russia has been worked out to the smallest detail. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the traffic of illicit substances from Afghanistan trace after trace coincides with the channels of both illegal and legal migration. If a few years ago the banned goods went mainly to central Russia, now the drug lords have expanded to Siberia and the Far East.

This is largely due to large infrastructure projects that are being implemented by the state in remote regions. A vicious circle has formed - where the big state money goes for construction, masses of migrants are also attracted there, a considerable part of which are illegal immigrants.

Such workers not only often suffer from addiction themselves, but are also “sales managers”. Following this, kilograms of narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances and their precursors come to the region. Kilograms is still very mildly said.


Source: pobedarf.ru

What to do?


The increase in the number of drug-related crimes among migrants is a direct consequence of the dishonesty of the structures that use the labor of migrants. For example, at the end of last year, the Ministry of Construction asked the state for simplified entry for labor migrants. At that time, there was a labor shortage in the labor market, which could lead to an increase in the cost per square meter of housing. Only this is not entirely true.

Last year, there was an explosive growth in demand for real estate, which developers could not help but take advantage of. And they were not ready to share the margin - they needed to recoup the losses of the covid depression. Therefore, the only way out was to open the borders for everyone who wanted to work on Russian construction sites. Hence the rise in drug trafficking.

To be fair, this shocking performance is partly due to the low base effect. In past years, covid did not allow the active importation of guest workers, and when they went like a wide river, the growth of drug trafficking showed double-digit numbers.

And in the very near future, the second series awaits us - 16 departments designated by Kolokoltsev will ask for another relief at the borders. The reason will be called 300 thousand mobilized, whom the army withdrew from the labor market. It is necessary to replace someone, and guests from Central Asia are just right here. And you can’t argue if you don’t read the essence of the problem. Developers and other users of migrant labor, as one, refuse to hire Russians because of the high associated costs.

The notorious welfare package is really uneasy story. They threaten with a serious increase in the cost of housing, street cleaning and other services that are supported by migrants. They only forget that the money paid to citizens of the near abroad almost completely leaves Russia. The salaries of the Russians, on the contrary, remain inside. Now the situation is when you don’t particularly ride in foreign resorts, and not everyone can buy a foreign car.

Simple financial logic suggests - raise people's salaries, they will reach out to you, and the notorious circulation of money in Russia will start. And they will be more willing to buy your own apartments. The logic is simple, but completely unprofitable for employers who receive huge profits from unregistered labor. It was still somehow possible to endure before, but now history is densely overgrown with drugs that threaten to destroy entire generations.

Source: islam-today.ru

Fighting hydra is difficult, but possible. First of all, a healthy bureaucracy. The state, as the main regulator, needs to think about restrictive requirements for the employment of migrants. For example, introduce quotas for the number of jobs for citizens of the country and for visitors.

The second step is to stimulate competition among Russians for jobs previously occupied by guests from neighboring countries. Honest businessmen cannot be put in a hopeless situation - he raises the salary and maintains the quota, while the Russians work carelessly. When an employer has the leverage to fire a snickering slacker with a Russian passport, the next one will think eight times before folding his pens. In a situation where the hands of guest workers are indispensable, new approaches to filtering unwanted elements are needed.

The personal responsibility of employers for each guest worker will look great. They took one with a couple of grams of a prohibited substance - the owner of the company is also under investigation. You may not bring it to a real criminal offense, but you can impose heavy fines. And here it does not matter whether the migrant worked officially or from under the counter. In this situation, the employer will think several times whether or not to take a new employee to the state. Or preliminarily study the whole ins and outs of the applicant?

For some, the above measures will seem too complicated, or ineffective, or too naive. In any case, new steps should be taken - the previous security measures are clearly not enough.
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  1. +40
    December 29 2022
    That's how nice it is about the loafers of citizens of Russia and who do not want to work so out of the blue, quietly done.
    The main thing is just beauty, employers are directly eager to pay more and someone vicious, foul and vile interferes with them in this matter. And so then think with your head that maybe it's time for a complete ban and suppression of illegal migration.
    Maybe it's enough to wrinkle the ass and start hanging for drug dealing.
    Maybe it's time to call narcotics, junkies not sick people, but criminals (they break the law) and put them in jail for treatment, to turn the abomination into a person. Plant let them work and support themselves as best they can - labor made a monkey5 and a person can make a man out of a junkie
    1. +10
      December 29 2022
      will make a man out of a junkie
      I think it's because of superfluous criminalization and defamation of drugs in the Russian infosphere, they created the image of "countercultural fighters against the system" and "free personalities no matter what" . In England and the same Holland, in the eyes of society, a drug addict = a miserable loser, a marginal like a pissed-off homeless man under a fence.
      1. +12
        December 29 2022
        They threaten with a serious increase in the cost of housing, street cleaning and other services that are supported by migrants.

        1. Only in 2 (two) cities of Russia, Moscow and St. Petersburg, migrants form the basis of housing and communal services. In the rest of Russia, everyone manages on their own for the most part. Bad (but for a different reason), but they manage.
        2. The longer the hostilities go on, the more they shake the topic of migrants, however.
        1. +12
          December 29 2022
          Have you only analyzed Moscow time and St. Petersburg? Then come to Ekb and see - everything is the same.
          And there are areas where it is better for Russians not to walk in the evenings.
          I think that in all more or less large cities of Russia - everything is about the same.
          1. 0
            December 29 2022
            Quote from Alex_ekb
            Have you only analyzed Moscow time and St. Petersburg? Then come to Ekb and see - everything is the same.
            And there are areas where it is better for Russians not to walk in the evenings.
            I think that in all more or less large cities of Russia - everything is about the same.


            Was in autumn Samara-Ufa-Chelyabinsk-Yekaterinburg. There is something to compare with, yes, I agree it is in Yekat, there are many migrants, but still, according to my subjective assessments, they are not the majority. I don't know of any UK in these cities, which completely from the owner to the janitor consist of residents of the same village, such as in St. Petersburg. There are enough villagers from the region. And in Ufa, the mayor is the same - a village one, with all the consequences.
            1. +3
              December 29 2022
              I was also in Samara in the fall, it also seemed that way, even the taxi drivers were Russian. I talked about it with one of the taxi drivers, I found out that it just happened. He said that the situation with migrants is getting worse.
              1. for
                +3
                December 29 2022
                Quote from Alex_ekb
                I was also in Samara in the fall, it also seemed that way, even the taxi drivers were Russian.

                Yes, we have Russian taxis, but the buses began to be dominated by guest workers brought with them by Muscovites who bought a local carrier.
          2. +3
            December 29 2022
            I think that in all more or less large cities of Russia - everything is about the same.

            It will always be so - as long as the Russian elite consists of "foreigners".
            Especially in the article touched:
            The reason will be called 300 thousand mobilized, whom the army withdrew from the labor market. It is necessary to replace someone, and guests from Central Asia are just right here. And you can’t argue if you don’t read the essence of the problem.

            It is enough to look at the numerous security agencies - millions of Russian men work there, pulled out of the economy (they do not produce anything), that's where the replacement reserve is, not migrants)))
          3. +2
            December 29 2022
            Alex
            In Tyumen, 99% of road workers and taxi drivers have black-browed faces. But they are almost invisible on the street, not to mention the fact that you don’t have to walk somewhere.
        2. +11
          December 29 2022
          Quote: Civil
          The longer the hostilities go on, the more they shake the topic of migrants, however.

          And before the SVO, normal people had a negative attitude towards the importation of migrants. The only question is that people see not the cause, but the effect. Those. splash out all the negativity on migrants, and not on those who bring them here in commercial quantities.
          1. +7
            December 29 2022
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            The only question is that people see not the cause, but the effect.

            Yes, many are already seeing the consequences. Just what does it change? With uncles from large armchairs, cutting through the city on gelendvagens, you almost never cross paths, but with migrants - every day. It is logical that the negative spills out on those who are nearby, and not on those who are to blame somewhere ...
      2. +1
        December 29 2022
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        that of personalities. "In England and the same Holland, in the eyes of society, a drug addict = a miserable loser, a marginal like a crap bum under a fence.

        And I don't care how it is in England and America. I don't care how we do. That's why,
        To involve the migrants themselves in the fight against the spread of drugs.
        1. If migrants work in any organization, then all of them go to their villages and villages, if at least one of them is caught by the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and confirmed by the court, in the use and or distribution of drug-containing drugs.
        2. If an audit establishes that some organization refused to hire a Russian citizen, and migrants work in it, the organization is punished with fabulous fines.
        3. To reduce the cost of housing, it is necessary to stop the vicious and illegal practice of selling land. No one, including the state, has the right to sell land, because you can only sell what you have made or bought yourself. The state did not buy the land, it was given by the Creator, so the state leases the land to the user for a symbolic price. Land for building, any, the state provides free of charge.
        4. In all schools and classes, show students Marina Gribanova's lecture "The Truth About Drugs" (On YouTube)
      3. +2
        December 29 2022
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        . In England and the same Holland, in the eyes of society, a drug addict = a miserable loser, a marginal like a pissed-off homeless man under a fence.

        We have the same assessment of junkies... fallen people...
      4. +3
        December 29 2022
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        I believe that it is precisely because of the excessive criminalization and defamation of drugs in the Russian infosphere that they have created the image of "countercultural fighters against the system" and "free personalities no matter what."

        There is a successful Chinese experience in the fight against drug trafficking. They found 10 grams of drugs in a person while in China and he will face the inevitable death penalty, even if he is a relative of Lavrov, even a son of Biden, even if he is close to Rahmon.
    2. GIS
      +10
      December 29 2022
      a little wrong, I understood the article: just employers " And they were not ready to share the margin "- this is the whole point of the problem: BABLO, which you can "save" and not pay normal salaries to your citizens
    3. +6
      December 29 2022
      Quote: saigon
      . And then think with your head that maybe it's time for a complete ban.

      What are you doing, encroaching on the "holy"? Maybe you want to challenge the results of privatization? Oh how unpatriotic...


      Fighting hydra is difficult, but possible. First of all, a healthy bureaucracy...

      How utopian, utopian utopia...
      Why are they brought in by the millions??? So there is a benefit. And therefore, everything else will be put, because profit is the god of capitalism.
    4. +4
      December 29 2022
      Maybe it's enough to wrinkle the ass and start hanging for drug dealing.


      With two hands for, if a migrant is caught with drugs, the fact is proven by the death penalty unambiguously, you see, and the traffic will dry up.
    5. +4
      December 30 2022
      Only citizens of the Russian Federation should be treated for drug addiction, and forcibly. Any person who was not born in the Russian Federation, caught on drug addiction, should be expelled from our country, regardless of whether he received Russian citizenship. Drug addicts should be branded. The death penalty with confiscation of property should be introduced for drug trafficking. Protecting the drug trade should be executed, again with confiscation of property.
    6. +1
      January 3 2023
      "".... Migrants are expanding the Russian drug market...""
      -----
      "Bravo" author ... In the midst of the NWO in Ukraine - such a pretentious and PROVOCATIVE headline in the respected and respectable "VO" .... And whose mill are we pouring water on ??? By chance, not at the NATO mill ??? And what is the purpose of the article? Strengthen international peace, friendship and tranquility in Russia??? It is doubtful ... With good intentions - the road WHERE and in WHAT direction is paved ??? And the author of the article accidentally "didn't forget" that according to the Russian statistics of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, NOT ALL migrants sell drugs, but only a very small part of them, which is even less than a percent ??? Haven't the citizens of the Russian Federation themselves been seen in the drug trade ??? And what about the rest of 99% of migrants in Russia??? By chance, not in construction, housing and communal services, agriculture, industry and in the service sector ???
      And it is strange that the hand of the author of the article did not tremble to print in "IN" a FALSE and slyly edited picture from the plot of the film "White Sun of the Desert", where: ""... Father Said was killed in cold blood by the insidious Javdet, he also took his simple farm and left Said himself BURGED UP TO THE NECK in the sand to die a long painful death: “He killed his father. Buried me..." And why does the author of the article "forget" that later - Said, together with Sukhov (the Russian soldier in the picture ...) and TOGETHER with him, will fight shoulder to shoulder against the Basmachi ....
  2. +16
    December 29 2022
    When the employer will have the leverage to fire a snickering slacker with a Russian passport
    There is a lot of work, but the Russians are snickering, sorting out grubs .. "There it is, Mikhalych" (c) smile That's the reason for the set of gasters .. laughing
    1. +3
      December 29 2022
      Hello Alexey!
      Quote: parusnik
      There is a lot of work, but the Russians are snickering, sorting out grubs .. "There it is, Mikhalych" (c) smile That's the reason for the set of gasters .. laughing

      It's Fedorov! I have never seen any other articles from him.)))
    2. +10
      December 29 2022
      Quote: parusnik
      and the Russians got drunk

      And that's right. They don’t want to live in trailers, they don’t want to work for 25 thousand ... Well, how can an honest capitalist be with such a lazy and greedy population ...
    3. -3
      December 29 2022
      And you, Vyacheslav, do not scoff. We really don't want to work. A hand-assed youngster wants a salary in kilograms, without knowing anything, and without even starting to work. I already wrote, it’s impossible to find a carpenter, only women call, they’re ready for everything, just show me how.
      1. +8
        December 29 2022
        Andrei Moskvin, it means that the proposed level of remuneration for work does not correspond to the level at which qualified and conscientious professionals would take it. From personal experience: for many years I have been working as a translator from / into a number of European languages ​​on weekends. I don’t break prices, but I take an average of 400-500-600 rubles per standard page, depending on the urgency. I guarantee quality and terms. Recently, one state office with an urgent translation has "drawn up", 40 sheets urgently, needed in 2 days. But they have a type of payment limit - 200 rubles. page. It was politely refused. They want cheap, let them use the services of a specialist with a quality level corresponding to 200 rubles.
        1. -3
          December 29 2022
          I wrote that there are no specialists, in general! And who asks, can't do anything with outrageous ambitions.
          1. 0
            December 30 2022
            Andrey Moskvin, well, I don’t believe that you can’t find a carpenter - a good specialist. It all depends on what you want and how much you are willing to pay for them.
      2. +2
        December 29 2022
        Yeah, the babai are calling, with qualifications from the category of "we saw how this one is doing" ... A neighbor in SNT was led to their persuasion, after which he spent twice as much on alterations ....
        1. +1
          December 30 2022
          Yeah, to a friend, a simple staircase to the basement in the country house was redone THREE times.
      3. +2
        December 29 2022
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        And you, Vyacheslav, do not scoff. We really don't want to work.

        It's easier to find a job in South Korea for $150 a day (learning South Korean increases the salary to $250) than in Russia for $30 a day. In Russia, getting a job is quite a bureaucratic problem.
        1. -2
          December 30 2022
          What is it that pulls you all so abroad? We have to work at home.
  3. +27
    December 29 2022
    This is one side of the coin. And there is another - the most important function and mission of a woman - to be a mother. Have children, raise, educate. To receive satisfaction and joy from this, and to give the state workers, soldiers, full-fledged citizens brought up in their native cultural traditions. And this is where the main conflict arises between the population of the country and the state - THE STATE DOES NOT NEED CHILDREN!!! AT ALL!!! Spending money on these snotty ones, from which when something else grows - no-no-no, we didn’t ask you to give birth, don’t ask us for anything either !!! Despite all the gurgling of officials of all ranks that Russia is a social state, that children are our future, it is the officials who are doing everything so that women in Russia stop giving birth. The dream of our officials - a SPECIALIST appears out of nowhere, does not ask for food, spends the night ... somewhere, does not require money, plows like a horse, and then disappears into nowhere - neither his pension nor sick leave ... This pink dream is as close as possible it is the model of an illegal guest worker - no losses, only profit. And until there is a sane force in Russia that will have the desire and ability to break the existing system, THE POPULATION OF RUSSIA WILL PLANNLY DECLINE. We just need to finally give women the opportunity to WORK as MOTHERS - they should be paid money for this and respected for this hard work, and the fathers of children should be given the opportunity to support families with ANY number of children - then guest workers will no longer be needed and the country will be reborn. But our authorities do not need it ...
    1. 0
      December 29 2022
      Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
      It is the model of an illegal guest worker that is as close as possible to this pink dream - no losses, only profit.
      - well, let's just say - in Moscow, no one ever wanted to work with their hands. Neither under the tsars nor under the USSR, not now .. Otherwise there would be no "Moscow limits" in the USSR ...
      1. +5
        December 29 2022
        Quote: your1970
        - well, let's just say - in Moscow, no one ever wanted to work with their hands. Neither under the tsars nor under the USSR, not now .. Otherwise there would be no "Moscow limits" in the USSR ...

        You are wrong, Muscovites, they are different. There are people like you wrote, but there are also absolutely normal hard-working people, I have met both such and such, there are many more normal people.
        1. +1
          December 29 2022
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote: your1970
          - well, let's just say - in Moscow, no one ever wanted to work with their hands. Neither under the tsars nor under the USSR, not now .. Otherwise there would be no "Moscow limits" in the USSR ...

          You are wrong, Muscovites, they are different. There are people like you wrote, but there are also absolutely normal hard-working people, I have met both such and such, there are many more normal people.

          Janitors-Muscovites never existed in nature. AZLK and ZIL knocked out limits for themselves - and still there were problems with workers
          1. +6
            December 29 2022
            Again Moscow snickering? am You won't get away, how? I am a Muscovite, plowed like an ox, all my life. And yet, yes, they are Muscovites, for the most part, they come from the regions. WWII, she thinned out the most indigenous fairly. So they are also Muscovites, since they had a job, housing and a residence permit, or do you think they don’t? The city was a powerful industrial center and its population worked. Everything, except for a small percentage of any riff-raff. Get off your horse already, otherwise you will agree again about "burning Moscow".
        2. for
          0
          December 29 2022
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          there are many more normal people.

          Until the limit, and then they become "native Muscovites"
          Yes, and all the trash flocks there from all over the country, as to America from all over the world.
          1. 0
            January 1 2023
            Quote: for

            Until the limit, and then they become "native Muscovites"
            Yes, and all the trash flocks there from all over the country, as to America from all over the world.

            Are you good with logic? "Scum" "flowed" into America and made it the leading power in the world. In the United States, as in Moscow, various people "flocked" and each, by virtue of his abilities, contributed to their development. So, do not all under one comb.
      2. +5
        December 29 2022
        if manual labor was valued at least a little, then those who wished would appear. For pennies, only a very stupid or disenfranchised person (slave) will agree to do dirty work. Is it really that hard to understand?
      3. +1
        December 29 2022
        Quote: your1970
        - well, let's put it this way - in Moscow, no one ever wanted to work with their hands.

        Russia has an interesting and rather flawed payment system. For example, in an organization led by Kovalchuk, specialists capable of designing plutonium bombs in the presence of plutonium and special technology to protect it from oxidation) are happy to work as loaders and laborers, as they are paid more for this than for engineering work.
    2. +6
      December 29 2022
      Oh leader, you swung at the foundations of a capitalist society.
      If all prettiness or, say, declarations are discarded, then the direct essence of capitalism is exploitation, profit and deceit.
      For a woman to be a mother, basically it would be much less to rob, steal and deceive.
      It pays the employee decently. and this is a sickle for a capitalist, or does someone think that by killing the USSR they abolished class theory?
      How can you not capitalize quietly in housing and communal services.
      Janitors ha ha janitor in Krasnoyarsk house 9 entrances payment 80000 a month and more than 20000 thousand rubles goes to clean the yard, that's all, that's it BENEFIT from migrants.
  4. +15
    December 29 2022
    Particularly impressive is personal responsibility.
    - "We are your roof now. If you don't want it, we will now find drugs from your builders. You will quit your construction site yourself ..."
  5. +17
    December 29 2022
    "Honest businessmen cannot be put in a hopeless situation - he raises his salary and maintains the quota, while the Russians work carelessly. When the employer has the leverage to fire a snickering slacker with a Russian passport, the next one will think eight times before folding his hands."

    What did I read?
    Well, how does this writing differ from the mantras of one high-ranking official associated with construction, that all our troubles are the result of the laziness of Russians? I advise the author of the article to work as a hired worker in a private enterprise or in a formally state-owned enterprise, where "effective" managers are in charge.
    1. +1
      December 29 2022
      And he learns a lot for himself about the "lazy" hi
  6. +5
    December 29 2022
    The point is not in the content, but in the heads. The dispute about who will defeat crime remains open. Before the revolution, every noble family had a bottle of opium. And what, were they drug addicts? Education, which is based only on metaphysics, helps to introduce this rubbish. Realism has long since left our country. Show people the future. Does anyone see it? Tokarev sang, "Why do we need a mean life? After all, tomorrow there may be war." So you can consume different rubbish. Just to fly away and not see the real. The police will not help in this. Only a healthy society can win in this matter.
    1. -1
      December 29 2022
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      Show people the future. Does anyone see it?... So you can consume different rubbish. Just to fly away and not see the real.
      Tomorrow, as you know, not everyone can look. Or rather, not only everyone can watch, few people can do it. I'm curious about something else. Do you think that life in Russia today is uglier, more terrible than it was before the revolution? So we already had a lot of junkies in the late 70s. Considering that alcohol also refers to drugs, they have never been translated. Also from the desire to "fly away and not see the real"? Or would you just throw a piece of feces on our present, is that the joy?
  7. +12
    December 29 2022
    In Crimea, I observed how "people from the mountains and sands" work on the "overhaul" of houses, the reconstruction of municipal parks, schools, roads. Only budget items.
    I have not seen them at any private construction site! It may be different in other regions. Probably the problem is somewhere near the distribution of budget money.
    They work hard but are very rude. As a rule, "jambs" are not eliminated.

    With drugs, you can make a simple decision. Regular drug testing at the expense of the employer. If there is a "trace" - deportation at the expense of the employer with a lifetime ban on entry into the Russian Federation.
    1. +7
      December 29 2022
      And the sense of deportation, passed already. This or that year there was an amnesty for visitors who committed crimes and they were banned from entering the country. The builders whined and voila they were all amnestied and the criminals poured into the country. Money decides everything.
  8. +11
    December 29 2022
    Kolokoltsev is hindered by drug addicts. But Khusnullin imports and imports brothers in faith more strongly. Well, plus the most important tirelessly repeating his liberal mantra about a multinational and multi-confessional federation.
    1. +26
      December 29 2022
      It's time to throw away the mantra that the Russians do not want to work. And migrants are tearing their veins at a construction site and, in general, at any job. H-n you will force them to work hard at a construction site, on road repairs without straightening their backs. Observed, saw enough personally. One or two are poking around somehow, and the rest are hanging on their phones. And if there are Russians among them, then they just work hard. And the fact that migrants know how to work is basically a myth. At first, yes, there were specialists. And now mostly kishlachniks. And they try to get a job in shops, drivers of minibuses, taxis ...
      1. -4
        December 29 2022
        However, it is wrong to confuse these 2 issues. Migrants are the same drug users as locals. Well, he will bring it with him once (the question of how they missed it), and then he will look for supply channels himself. So these channels exist and we need to fight them. It is easy, of course, to find the relationship and report, just to take the arrows away. But then the consumption of bread probably also increases where the number of migrants increases ..
        It is also a mistake to assume that due to the fact that Afghanistan is nearby for migrants, there is a ready-made channel, a vector from where and only from where everything is imported. Now most are already switching to synthetics, which are cheaper and cause less "worries".
        Yes, if you already look, then migrants "take away" work and earnings from the locals, from real Russians. Nobody will like it. But if you look more broadly: there are very few Russian citizens for the industrialization, urbanization and development of the rural sector of such a large country. For progress, development, to build new roads, cities, factories, houses, workers are needed. So many. The example of China confirms this. And where to get them? Or give birth to 4-5 children (there is a simple formula: in families, 1 child - this leads to a decrease in the population, 2 - to remain without growth, 3-4 - an increase in the population) or attract labor from outside like this. Therefore, it is IMPORTANT where and how to attract her. If it is used unofficially, in order to reduce taxes, etc., then the problem will be eternal and acute. If you employ officially, in those industries or places where additional workers are needed, then this will only benefit Russia and its citizens. And this should be done by just those services who are blaming like this - and what are we, they are all like that ..
        And one moment. Yes, now everyone is going to work. Most of them are those who could not find work in their homeland. Naturally, these are not specialists, most of them are not even from cities, but from villages and auls. But many come back later: able to speak Russian, a little immersed in Russian culture, owning tools, building materials, and so on. Thus, along the contour of the Russian Federation, at least from the south, a belt of certain stability and loyalty to Russia appears. Those. The Russian Federation certainly gives a lot, but it also receives in the long term.
        1. +2
          December 29 2022
          Back in the 70s, there was a debate in the United States about the large flow of ponies. Such sectors of the economy as construction, agriculture and public catering were strongly harnessed for them. Against everyone else. A regularity was revealed that a decrease in migration can be achieved by automating a wide range of work processes, and in the medium term, automation is more cost-effective than mass manual labor. I believe that the creation of research institutes, enterprises designing and producing various units to replace manual labor, should become a national project. and not sports or another minor direction.
          1. +2
            December 29 2022
            Quote: Andrey Stavropolsky
            I believe that the creation of research institutes, enterprises designing and producing various units to replace manual labor, should become a national project. and not sports or another minor direction.

            FSB officers are unlikely to understand the management of such a complex industry. Such a policy will cause a political transformation in Russia worse than that which occurred under Lenin and Stalin.
      2. +1
        December 29 2022
        Quote: Kuzyakin15
        It's time to throw away the mantra that the Russians do not want to work

        In the USSR, they tried to abandon her, yeah ...
        But WHY SOMETHING it turned out that Muscovites are not bursting to go to work as janitors and factories in Moscow.
        And there were Soviet guest workers - "LimitA" ...
        1. +1
          December 30 2022
          Quote: your1970
          Soviet guest workers appeared - "LimitA" ...

          And now ask where the quotas came from ... from regions not south of Voronezh, and then behind the scenes the priority was to the Aryan type of appearance, and publicly - to hatred of religion.
      3. +6
        December 29 2022
        Quote: Kuzyakin15
        It's time to throw away the mantra that the Russians do not want to work.

        An employer does not benefit from a Russian worker who needs TB in the workplace, health protection, hygiene and amenities, a stable salary fixed in a bank account, paid vacation, medical insurance, work clothes ... I personally saw how in my city they laid asphalt of groups in sneakers and sleeveless jackets, dining on the grass...Today, the authorities of some organizations have decided that a full-fledged lunch break with washing hands, eating hot meals and taking natural necessities in appropriate rooms is an unaffordable luxury. With such work, there will be fewer pensioners guaranteed ... And taking anyone to work with harmful and dangerous working conditions related to energy is a risk ...
        Examples in a neighboring country...
    2. +1
      December 29 2022
      But isn't Russia a multinational and multi-confessional country? We, along with China, Great Britain, Spain, belong to the group of multinational states with a dominant ethnic group. Russians in Russia, Hans in China, Castilians in Spain, British in Great Britain.
      1. +3
        December 29 2022
        If there is a desire to make the state great, then the people will be united. And if there is a dream to break up, then a federation will be concocted in place of a single state. They ruined the Union, they will ruin the federation.
        1. -1
          December 29 2022
          Quote: Gardamir
          If there is a desire to make a great power, then the people will be united

          "Chukchi" - like heroes of jokes? Not?
          Or "Armenian Radio" ....
          Yes, and "chock" was not invented yesterday and not 30 years ago.
          There was no desire in the USSR to make the country great?
          1. +2
            December 29 2022
            The USSR in terms of the assimilation of small nationalities did more than in the entire history before it. The Union simply existed critically little for it to have an effect.
          2. +1
            December 29 2022
            Quote: your1970
            "Armenian radio"
            In my opinion, "Armenian Radio" was invented by Armenians as an alternative to Jewish jokes.
  9. +13
    December 29 2022
    and the Russians work carelessly
    Some kind of luck to the government, employers with the people, a lazy people, got it .. not worthy of either the government or employers .. smile
  10. +5
    December 29 2022
    The personal responsibility of employers for each guest worker will look great.
    This is exactly the case in Belarus. And gasters are practically invisible, that is, there are a very small number of them, and they work.
    1. +1
      December 29 2022
      Quote: Aviator_
      The personal responsibility of employers for each guest worker will look great.
      This is exactly the case in Belarus. And gasters are practically invisible, that is, there are a very small number of them, and they work.

      In Belarus, everyone's salaries are quite small - that's why there are practically no gasters.
      Well, the size affects - Moscow is equal in number to 3 Belarus ....
  11. +18
    December 29 2022
    The authorities do not defend the interests of the Russian people, but systematically replace them with migrants. The drug trade is only a tool for the destruction of the indigenous population, and you need to understand that no less Russians die from the stalls with fusel oil on every corner than from drugs, but the worst thing is that Russian people who are in the vertical of power, for the sake of their own benefit, they easily forget about their nationality and turn a blind eye to many actions of diasporas.
    1. +5
      December 29 2022
      Quote from Flyer
      but the worst thing is that the Russian people, who are in the vertical of power, for the sake of their own benefit, easily forget about their nationality and turn a blind eye to many actions of the diasporas.

      The capitalist has no nationality! Money is his nationality. And he doesn’t give a damn about everything else, he will squeeze this money out of Russians or Uzbeks, it’s the tenth thing for him.)))
    2. +2
      December 29 2022
      The capitalism of the Western school (and there is no other, as it were) requires maximum profit and minimum costs. Therefore, Latinos in the United States, Ukrainians in Poland, Hungarians in Portugal and Uzbeks in Siberia. Only pure grandmas. But then there are all sorts of side effects from these migrants and wars to drive these migrants cheaper into the country. And the indigenous people do not care.
      1. +2
        December 29 2022
        So all these side effects result in a bloated police staff, migration services and other garbage such as an increased load on school infrastructure and medicine. Who will count these side effects in rubles?
        1. +1
          December 29 2022
          Quote: Andrey Stavropolsky
          So all these side effects result in a bloated police staff, migration services

          The indigenous population pays for this, not the capitalists.
          Quote: Andrey Stavropolsky
          other garbage such as increased load on the infrastructure of the school and medicine.

          And the financing of this "garbage" from the budget is reduced from year to year and shifted to the shoulders of the indigenous population.
    3. +2
      December 30 2022
      Quote from Flyer
      Russian people who are in the vertical of power

      Kudrin, for example, is a Jew, he became obhabadil, I don’t know if he was circumcised, but he is a Jew, like many others in power.
      What is it for?
  12. GIS
    +8
    December 29 2022
    To all appearances, this is very beneficial for the very 16 departments that Vladimir Kolokoltsev spoke about. No matter how hard our valiant police try, they will never be able to catch criminals faster than departments will let muddy migrants in.

    and the icing on the cake:
    Last year, there was an explosive growth in demand for real estate, which developers could not help but take advantage of. And they were not ready to share the margin

    Developers and other users of migrant labor, as one, refuse to hire Russians because of the high associated costs.

    that's the whole answer to the question of who benefits
    1. -2
      December 29 2022
      You can not prevent - lead.

      It is quite obvious that drugs should be decriminalized, and the actual associated costs for Uzbeks should be made higher than those for Russians.

      The relevant departments will be against this, but it is beneficial to the top leadership of the country.
  13. +8
    December 29 2022
    Migrants are evil. Good specialists do not come to us, but there are enough rabble of their own.
  14. +2
    December 29 2022
    Quote: Civil
    I don't know any CC in these cities

    I don't want to cling to words, but still ...
    Have you inspected every single Criminal Code in these cities?
    I just see who sweeps the streets, collects garbage in the city and along the highways, who cleans the snow, who works as cleaners / cleaners in shopping centers. Nothing to say about construction.
  15. +10
    December 29 2022
    It is also a revelation to me that migrant workers are pushing drugs .... But the mentioned 80% are a sly figure, since this is what was revealed and registered. And how many thefts, murders, rapes, etc. committed by "guests" were not included in the reports? I guess it's an order of magnitude more.
    But with:
    "...Despite the fact that 16 departments in our country are beneficiaries of migrant labor, and society asks for this site only from the Ministry of Internal Affairs...."
    I completely agree with Kolokoltsev. But the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is rooting for his department, and meanwhile the situation is even worse. Migrants are not only a criminal threat, they also create a lot of problems in other areas of life. They rent housing for a company - there is no housing for neighbors. There is also an additional burden on the healthcare system. Volumes have been written about migrant children in schools who do not understand Russian. Incl. the picture is bleak: someone benefits, but the whole society pays.
  16. +5
    December 29 2022
    This is half the trouble. On top of that, they are all pedophiles and rapists. And they drag their auls here. In schools, pitch hell is going on from flocks of these animals. Extortion, fights, low level of education.
    I had to try very hard to find at least a private school where these packs were not.
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  18. -1
    December 29 2022
    As always, a one-sided view of the problem. Migrants only carry poison, but they work as pawnbrokers, and even more so, Russian scoundrels organize shops on the dark web. The question here is in the fight against organized crime in general, because the criminal has no nationality.
    Counter-propaganda is very important in society, especially among young people. As rightly noted in one of the comments, a drug user should be perceived as a loser, something like a bum. In essence, that's the way it is.
    Drug trafficking is perhaps not the only trouble from the eastern gasters. As rightly noted, in general, their contribution to crime is higher and higher.
    Including this is a fodder base for terrorism, and not only ISIS, but also Ukrorazvedka is actively working with them.
    Here we need to work with diasporas, and we need them not to form separate groups of strangers, but to integrate into society. You need to understand that even if labor migration is banned, there are still so many of them in Russia that it is already impossible to expel them. Therefore, it is necessary that they integrate into Russian society. Although, for garlic, I would not react very well if the second half of one of my children would be called, say, Zuhra or Ali))
    1. +1
      December 29 2022
      Quote: futurohunter
      Although, for garlic, I would not react very well if the second half of one of my children would be called, say, Zuhra or Ali))

      The problem is that in the USSR they also traveled from their republics to the RSFSR, but it was IMPOSSIBLE to notice this.
      "Limita" has been in the USSR since the 1950s.
      Therefore, even if the USSR had not died, your fear could still come true easily
      1. +3
        December 29 2022
        In the USSR, in the republics, it was more profitable for the nationals themselves to live than to go to the impoverished RSFSR. There the supply was much better, as were the roads.
  19. +6
    December 29 2022
    The essence of the problem is TOTAL CORRUPTION in migration, in departments and ministries! Idlers who do not want to work in Russia are a myth at the state level elevated to a confident "fact". And far from only builders among migrants - shift production, housing and communal services and many industries are switching to migrants, since they have no rights under the Labor Code and they can be paid less. It is simply unprofitable for us to work for a penny in three shifts. But it seems that neither the booty nor the government itself is going to pay with dignity! This problem is wider and larger than one article, I’m already silent that in a situation of war it is also a matter of national security.

    I think it’s worth saying here that, in general, drug trafficking, right up to retail trade, is under the roof, you know what kind of office and is systematically organized. Once a year, they cover several "like wholesalers" throughout the country, and you yourself know which office rents out a chain of ordinary mortgages, among them there are many of our Russian youth (of course, they go there from a good life). This whole fight against drugs is just a FARS at the state level
  20. +1
    December 29 2022
    Summarizing all of the above, the problem is solved simply by the abolition of capitalism in Russia.
  21. +3
    December 29 2022
    In China, the revolution was able to put an end to drug addiction in the shortest possible time. The revolutionary armies defeated the armies of the oppressors in 1949. Three years later, in 1952, there were no drug addicts, no pushers, no opium poppy plantations, no smuggled drugs in the country. In just three years, China has reduced the number of drug addicts from 70 million to zero.

    How the Maoists in China eradicated drug addiction
    http://maoism.ru/2856
    It is impossible to blindly repeat the experience of a foreign country, but it is possible to understand that the roots of the drug trade and the drug mafia lie deep and intertwine the system of bourgeois power.
    And it's not about guest workers, but about those in power, who turn a blind eye to all the disgrace with thick bundles of high denomination banknotes.
    I personally saw how three types were looking for a "bookmark" in front of the knowledge of the Leningradsky Criminal Code ... Next to the search site was a "conspicuous car" (red, and a rare model in the city, maybe the only one) ... For someone it is prevented? And the private sector of the regional center is replete with points of sale, which are covered by law enforcement agencies, collecting tribute from the comfort of cars with the inscription "police"...
    And I don't fucking need this rigmarole and the fight between good and evil in private. And you?
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  23. 0
    December 29 2022
    There are laws and they work. If something and somewhere stir up, then without the knowledge of the controlling organizations it will not do. The drug trade, in general, is an exclusively controlled affair.
  24. +3
    December 29 2022
    Do not let, hang and deport. It's business. But our government and will do not have, and it's a pity. There is no need to write more.
    1. +3
      December 29 2022
      Citizens of the country used to work on mining projects and had all the benefits and "northern" ...... now they stupidly import guest workers. Who does it? Gazprom and ROSNEFT. state enterprises. There is production - hired, no, everyone was fired. Typical capitalist themes.
  25. +3
    December 29 2022
    Quote: billybones
    "Honest businessmen cannot be put in a hopeless situation - he raises his salary and maintains the quota, while the Russians work carelessly. When the employer has the leverage to fire a snickering slacker with a Russian passport, the next one will think eight times before folding his hands."

    What did I read?
    Well, how does this writing differ from the mantras of one high-ranking official associated with construction, that all our troubles are the result of the laziness of Russians? I advise the author of the article to work as a hired worker in a private enterprise or in a formally state-owned enterprise, where "effective" managers are in charge.

    Yes, yes, and look at Khusnullin's report on the construction of roads for Putin. Wow, how the eyes run ......
  26. +2
    December 29 2022
    Just now seeing the problem? For many years, one hand (big and hairy) has been bringing in migrants (they are successfully transporting and distributing drugs), and the other hand (also big and also hairy) seems to be fighting this bad drug.
  27. +3
    December 29 2022
    The idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe employer's personal responsibility is certainly good, but then medical workers for issuing certificates to drug addicts or the entire kohal in bulk without an examination at all, fines and life should be complicated
  28. +1
    December 29 2022
    I didn’t even read it. For drug trafficking, I immediately got a life sentence. Whoever you are.
  29. -1
    December 29 2022
    Who is the main roof of drug traffickers - some employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
  30. +4
    December 29 2022
    Half of us on the street speaks non-Russian. Children of migrants go to school as much as possible. Not circles, not interests. All sorts of "janitors" live crammed into apartments and earn money for officials and bosses. They clean at home, but on the street - nifiga ...
    Previously, our wipers chiselled ice on the street and scattered sand, now that's it, hare, economy, make your way to the buses as you like ... only specific areas are cleaned ....

    Even the trash cans were removed to save money...
  31. +4
    December 29 2022
    I would say that migrants are expanding not only the drug trade market, but in general the crime market. 70% of all crimes in Russia are committed by migrants.
  32. +5
    December 29 2022
    Migrants are expanding the Russian drug market. Is there anyone who doubts this? I believe that there is, this is the entire power vertical of the Russian Federation, starting from the very one and further down the list .. The Minister of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, Mr. Vladimir Kolokoltsev, correctly voiced the problem. But I forgot about my subordinates who "protect" the drug business, which involves not only immigrants. This problem can be solved only by radically toughening the fight against the organizers and "protectors" of the drug trade. They must be candidates for life imprisonment with total confiscation.
  33. +3
    December 29 2022
    Russian depils, like D. Medvedev and those like him, are advocating the expulsion of those Russian 4 assistants who fled abroad, not wanting to fight for their "homeland"! Yes...they are 4MO! But who are they going to replace them with? Tyu4mekamu ! "Contingent", not only alien to Russians in culture and mentality, but also aggressive towards Russian culture and mentality! A mess in everything! And in the military sphere, and in the economy, and in the social sphere, and in migration policy! Here are the results of Putin's regime of power!
  34. +5
    December 29 2022
    Frankly speaking, why not take advantage of foreign experience? Take the same Japan, where the law on foreigners is adopted. The bottom line is, in short - you can’t find a specialist in the country, you invite a foreigner - you pay him a salary 30% more than the natives ... Accordingly, deductions and accruals are more ... But political will is already needed here ...
    1. +3
      December 29 2022
      the experience of the UAE is better, there for the slightest fault of a migrant - a life ban on entry, or a life sentence
  35. +1
    December 29 2022
    Kolokoltsov gets through, the migrant lobby will send him to resign. The problem can be solved by raising the salary and visa regime for all non-citizens of Russia. But who will allow this?
    1. +3
      December 29 2022
      the authorities will finish playing multinational and "friendship of peoples", they will start cutting out migrants and hanging them on lampposts, everything goes towards this, even article 282 with holes will not save them
  36. +5
    December 29 2022
    all this dirt from Central Asia must be driven back to the villages from which they came, and the diasporas should be outlawed, this issue has long been overdue, and it must be addressed, resolved radically
    the tales of Khusnulin and the construction lobby about the fact that the Russians do not want to work are already tired of listening
    visa regime with Central Asia is necessary
    1. 0
      December 30 2022
      Quote from kasy
      and the construction lobby about the fact that the Russians do not want to work

      If you simply make payments to the FIU voluntary and reduce VAT, it will immediately turn out that there is someone to work for.
      The English tax system - from a salary of 12 thousand pounds a year - zero taxes and requisitions, the more the salary, the more, but less than in the Russian Federation.
      Or the simple idea that the progressive tax is on the family, not the individual. That is, less than the minimum wage per person - zero taxes. Then a family with two children will not pay anything from the husband's salary of 4 minimum wages, and on the rise.
      That is, the tax is only on that part of the family income that is more than the minimum wage per person. It is income, that is, salaries minus housing and communal services, study, travel, treatment.
      1. +2
        December 30 2022
        there is someone to work anyway, they just don’t want to pay people, they deceive, and the migrant is powerless and works for 2 times less salary, which means you can steal more
        with a large salary there will be taxes up to 52 percent like in Germany, and we will have another outcome of highly qualified personnel, this system is inconvenient, especially in our country
  37. +3
    December 29 2022
    it is among guest workers that the drug trade flourishes. And not just thriving, but gaining strength. Between 3 and 5 million foreign citizens enter Russia every year and subsequently work illegally.


    We need a mandatory visa regime with all the former republics of the USSR.
    Stop turning Russia into a passage yard for any criminal scum.
    For drug trafficking, it is imperative to introduce the death penalty, otherwise you cannot get rid of this infection that has swept the country.
    Russian children are poisoned by drugs by all and sundry and Asians and Gypsies, while they themselves receive benefits from the Russian state, forming national-criminal enclaves.
  38. +2
    December 29 2022
    Oh, how interesting, but before that, the "comrade" Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, where was he? Why hasn't the minister "snubbed" his colleagues before and reported to the President that he is playing with fire? Isn’t it because he suddenly woke up that now there is a massive outflow of personnel, which he cannot stop with anything, which means that disclosure will fall and he feels that they will still soap the fifth point to him.
  39. +2
    December 30 2022
    In fact, everything is simple, they import a migrant according to an estimate, draw him a conditional salary of thirty, in reality they pay twenty or fifteen, the rest goes into their pocket. The market has been worked out very clearly, therefore, those who call for this must be strictly asked, since this also leads to a drop in demographics. Conventionally, if a person already has to pay not 30, but already 40-45, many will go not to taxi drivers / couriers / security guards, but just to their places.
  40. 0
    January 2 2023
    What are the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the investigatory committee, the prosecutor's office, the FSB doing? Sound problems?
    Or deliberately all started up on semotech?
  41. +1
    January 3 2023
    Quote from Alex_ekb
    And there are areas where it is better for Russians not to walk in the evenings.

    And in Moscow there is such a thing!

    A pseudo-cultural bohemian who makes films about poor migrants touches, wringing her hands in Akhedzhakovsky, with screams about Russian nationalists of the living migrants.
    Come to us, West Deguninsky Medellin, look at this drug hell. All the walls in stenciled pictures with the addresses of drug sites (ZHEK employees dropped their hands and stopped asking for this abomination). Around syringes and bags with the remnants of the infection. The district police phones are silent, out of four numbers, none of them work. But one of them recently changed Toyota Camry 2,5 to BMW X5.
    Some drug dealers have become lazy to the point that they simply dump drugs from the balconies of rented apartments! But many drug dealers still "work" in the old way. On playgrounds, in entrances, at schools and kindergartens, "sufferers" scurry about in search of bookmarks (they steal from each other, fight for a "dose").
    This hell was arranged for us by migrants!
    The police are only busy looking for draft dodgers (it's safe), and they don't touch drug dealers without noticing point-blank.
    Maybe the methods of benderok (stringing to poles) look bad, but many parents would not use this for migrant drug dealers.
    If the police are afraid to touch the drug dealers, maybe they will at least take them to the mansions of the heads of the companies that were breaking through the quotas for migrants and covering up this lawlessness in the Duma and the Federation Council?
    Let our Western Degunin drug dealers fool everyone who advocates illegal migration and cries about the hard fate of criminal migrants.
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  43. 0
    January 3 2023
    Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
    This is one side of the coin. And there is another - the most important function and mission of a woman - to be a mother. Have children, raise, educate. To receive satisfaction and joy from this, and to give the state workers, soldiers, full-fledged citizens brought up in their native cultural traditions. And this is where the main conflict arises between the population of the country and the state - THE STATE DOES NOT NEED CHILDREN!!! AT ALL!!! Spending money on these snotty ones, from which when something else grows - no-no-no, we didn’t ask you to give birth, don’t ask us for anything either !!! Despite all the gurgling of officials of all ranks that Russia is a social state, that children are our future, it is the officials who are doing everything so that women in Russia stop giving birth. The dream of our officials - a SPECIALIST appears out of nowhere, does not ask for food, spends the night ... somewhere, does not require money, plows like a horse, and then disappears into nowhere - neither his pension nor sick leave ... This pink dream is as close as possible it is the model of an illegal guest worker - no losses, only profit. And until there is a sane force in Russia that will have the desire and ability to break the existing system, THE POPULATION OF RUSSIA WILL PLANNLY DECLINE. We just need to finally give women the opportunity to WORK as MOTHERS - they should be paid money for this and respected for this hard work, and the fathers of children should be given the opportunity to support families with ANY number of children - then guest workers will no longer be needed and the country will be reborn. But our authorities do not need it ...

    ----
    That's right ... But, not for this, after all, Soviet corrupt officials and embezzlers of public funds (who seized power ...) - destroyed the USSR together with Western intelligence services ... Your thoughts are realized almost word for word and with slight differences - in China, Iran , India, Arab countries, and EXACTLY THEREFORE the West does not like these countries so much, and most importantly, Russia, because it understands that VERY SOON the authorities in Russia will free the people and peasants from many unaffordable taxes and taxes ...

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