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Forbes: A significant share of American military assistance to Ukraine is decommissioned equipment

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Forbes: A significant share of American military assistance to Ukraine is decommissioned equipment

US military assistance to the Kyiv regime in the amount of $21,9 billion since the start of the special operation conducted by the Russian Federation is impressive. But even more impressive is the fact that a significant proportion of American military aid is decommissioned equipment.


Craig Hooper, a columnist from the USA, argues about this in his article published by Forbes magazine.

He notes that American military aid was dominated by "second-tier" equipment, consisting of unpopular or low-tech systems that were often already sent to the landfill.

The United States donated a lot of used Russian and other obsolete equipment, including 45 major combat tanks T-72 and 20 Mi-17 helicopters. Most of this equipment supplied to Ukraine was intended to be sent for recycling or to other allies.

The fact that America has provided about 200 M113 armored personnel carriers to Kyiv sounds impressive. But military experts know that the United States stopped producing these tracked vehicles about 25 years ago. Now they are busy removing them from their Armed Forces.

Other weapons that the Americans do not need are being sent to Ukraine. Hooper notes that it has rarely been used as effectively as it is now.

In particular, American taxpayers transferred 477 vehicles with enhanced MRAP mine protection to Ukraine. The US Army was so eager to get rid of this heavy, hard-to-maintain counterinsurgency vehicle that it distributed it to police departments across the country.


America also provided the Armed Forces of Ukraine with about 1200 HMMWV (Humvee) armored vehicles. The US is busy replacing this old military jeep with a more modern JLTV ("Joint Light Tactical Vehicle") vehicle.

The United States has not used HAWK missiles since 2002. With thousands being made, the Ukrainian conflict is a chance for the US military to learn how these old weapons being handed over to Kyiv will perform on the battlefield.

All of the above does not mean at all that the United States did not supply Ukraine with complex advanced weapon. But while new weapons make headlines, the American columnist notes, a small number of truly modern systems are being delivered. Although they are talked about more often than about mass deliveries of obsolete equipment.

While the overall amount of military aid Washington has sent to Ukraine seems impressive, in real terms, most of it, except for ammunition, is systems that the Pentagon has already written off.

Of course, it is difficult to say whether American supplies are helping the Ukrainian army, or if this is one of the forms of waste disposal. But it should also be borne in mind that American money aimed at meeting the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is unlikely to ever return. Apparently, Washington is aware of this.
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  1. voice of reason
    voice of reason 27 December 2022 16: 46
    -7
    Well, they are in the next aid package, they will start handing out Indian bows and tomahawks, they are lying around somewhere in warehouses ...
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 27 December 2022 16: 58
      +3
      Oh well? There is so much "good" in the Arizona desert without bows and tomohawks. Which is quite capable of killing
      1. voice of reason
        voice of reason 27 December 2022 17: 10
        -6
        yeah outdoors. in the sun and under the sand. suitable only for remelting ... there are such cemeteries closer https://mag.auto.ru/article/molchanie-metalla-7-krupneyshikh-kladbishch-voennoy-tekhniki/
        1. dmi.pris1
          dmi.pris1 27 December 2022 17: 13
          +1
          Yes, your "mind" is a bit tight .. Equipment, properly preserved, is wonderfully stored like that
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 27 December 2022 18: 16
          +1
          Quote: voice of reason
          suitable only for remelting ... there are such cemeteries closer
          It's you in vain so. If we are talking about AMARC, then the 309w is a very efficient unit: they provide conservation /very correct/, maintenance and depreservation if necessary. Of the stocks they have, the most famous is the separation of the 727 engine after reactivation, but otherwise they work decently.
          Only 404s lick their lips at AMARC in vain: reopening is not fast and expensive.
        3. futurohunter
          futurohunter 27 December 2022 18: 17
          +1
          There are quite a few examples when aircraft from the Dave Montan storage base were removed from mothballing and sold to some El Salvadors, where they flew for many more years
      2. sadam2
        sadam2 28 December 2022 03: 18
        0
        Okay, this little one, but why are you humiliating the Russian army. The wunderwafline, which has analogues, will soon be marking time against this rubbish for a year ... but what will happen when modern NATO gets there?
    2. Canna Steinfeldgrubber
      Canna Steinfeldgrubber 27 December 2022 17: 11
      +2
      Quote: voice of reason
      Well, they are in the next aid package, they will start handing out Indian bows and tomahawks, they are lying around somewhere in warehouses ...

      Do you mean Tomahawk and Longbow?
  2. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 27 December 2022 16: 47
    +1
    I remember the 90s. I’m selling a BMW, without a run in Russia. It went almost like a “new one”. And then someone in Ukraine is indignant, they give equipment without a run in Ukraine, zero, the fly went only in slippers on technology. I left white slippers, in the kit .
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 27 December 2022 16: 48
    +1
    Forbes: A significant share of American military assistance to Ukraine is decommissioned equipment
    . Skakuasam will do fine anyway ... let them be glad that the owner will also save so much money on the disposal of all rubbish.
    1. oleg-nekrasov-19
      oleg-nekrasov-19 27 December 2022 16: 55
      +6
      The most important thing is that they give the Ukrainians decommissioned and expired equipment, but for this business from the "aid" that they allocated in the amount of 45 billion dollars. -28 billion are immediately taken to their "defense industry" to replenish stocks of weapons allocated to help Ukraine earlier. The rest of the money goes to maintain the "pants" of the banking sector and infrastructure, although they go to American bankers and investors. But on the other hand, in the "debt" column, all 45 lards will be recorded in Ukraine. These are the "good" Americans. wink laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 December 2022 17: 36
        0
        According to anyone, a certain amount, quite suitable for themselves, they are forced to give away ... it is painfully quickly all this is utilized / consumed during intense hostilities.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 27 December 2022 18: 23
        -1
        "But on the other hand, in the "debt" column, all 45 lards will be written to Ukraine" ///
        ---
        No. It was military aid. Part of it really goes to the purchase of equipment to replenish stocks, in exchange for the shipped equipment and ammunition. But it is not written into debt.
        Lend-Lease starts next year. Like rent. Formally, the equipment remains American, at the end of the war it must be given back or paid for. In fact, it is written off.
    2. 28st region
      28st region 27 December 2022 16: 58
      +2
      From the unexpected
      The Ukrainian military suddenly gives an extremely negative assessment of military assistance from Western partners. Filmed in Italy



      https://ok.ru/video/4228354476672
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 27 December 2022 17: 03
        -2
        Crap rubbish. They are rusty through and through. What can be repaired there, it is cheaper to make new ones. Although if the repair consists in painting, then yes, cool cars are obtained.
  4. IvanR
    IvanR 27 December 2022 16: 48
    +4
    If even this "junk" is enough for the enemy to specifically stick, why spend more?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 27 December 2022 16: 57
      +1
      Quote from Ivan
      If even this "junk" is enough for the enemy to specifically stick, why spend more?

      The most important thing is that in parallel to this they sing that the arsenals are completely depleted. And here you read, so they gave out what was already prepared to the landfill, which means the arsenals are full.
      1. opuonmed
        opuonmed 27 December 2022 17: 14
        0
        inform the war, no one canceled it! they specifically say that the warehouses are empty! so that the deceived one would once believe
  5. svp67
    svp67 27 December 2022 16: 56
    +2
    Forbes: A significant share of American military assistance to Ukraine is decommissioned equipment
    but for the price of a new one...
    1. opuonmed
      opuonmed 27 December 2022 17: 20
      +2
      they give away the old, they buy the new, and that's all in this way, rearmament is going on in the United States and in the West
  6. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 27 December 2022 17: 02
    0
    whether American supplies are aid to the Ukrainian army, or is it one of the forms of disposal of unnecessary rubbish.

    Well, what can I say? The states organized a wide sale of "last year's snow" by Svidomo at a reasonable price... As they say: - Business! Nothing personal just business!!!
  7. opuonmed
    opuonmed 27 December 2022 17: 12
    -2
    I can imagine what it would be like if everything new was given in large quantities and also in rockets! the Americans give weapons so that they would simply fight among themselves and the Russian Federation could not do anything, and ukrr I’m just shocked for this!
  8. Vashek
    Vashek 27 December 2022 17: 22
    0
    It's all nothing. The main thing is to give more expired ammunition.
  9. n-Stozhar
    n-Stozhar 27 December 2022 17: 24
    -1
    It was here that military cargo from the United States got to the outskirts, the US insurance company received huge payments for the delivery of this particular caravan in sea containers .. and security. maybe lockheed, maybe swifts that flew after that .. maybe calibers purchased internationally the arms market ... but it’s definitely decommissioned ... and private. The state department has nothing to do with it .... buts they say they frolic among themselves ... by the way, they released ours just after. and there are units and what .... if, cho the hummingbird was designed for a sea container. the guide was 30 degrees to the horizon and .... the Americans then flinched in fear. completely untraceable content
  10. n-Stozhar
    n-Stozhar 27 December 2022 17: 32
    -1
    There is an opinion that the cruiser was torpedoed just at the first attempt of inspection ... without air escort and pl ... the Russian Federation does not make such attempts anymore .. although it knows about the sea route as the main delivery of weapons .. c4 is very rare.
  11. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 27 December 2022 17: 34
    -1
    Quote from: dmi.pris1
    Oh well? There is so much "good" in the Arizona desert without bows and tomohawks. Which is quite capable of killing

    You can also kill with a fork if you wish. But the sooner the Papuans come out to switch to spears (and forks, and other rubbish from the Arizona region) - the better.
  12. puskarinkis
    puskarinkis 27 December 2022 17: 34
    -1
    A wonderful business plan is to share responsibility among all "NATO members", to sell garbage to Ukraine at exorbitant prices, taking money from the whole world and investing it in our own defense industry, as well as the pockets of interested parties! The politicians are happy, the funds are happy, the defense industry is happy, the organizers are in profit, and Ukraine is in debt! What no one expects to give back with money: there are lands, ports, obligations, levers of pressure, and in general ... To whom is war, and to whom - business and nothing personal ...
  13. RoTTor
    RoTTor 27 December 2022 17: 49
    -1
    Well done, they profit from everything: the disposal of junk would cost more, as well as "help" to the vassals and profit to the bourgeoisie.
  14. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 27 December 2022 18: 08
    -1
    Quote: RoTTor
    Well done, they profit from everything: the disposal of junk would cost more, as well as "help" to the vassals and profit to the bourgeoisie.

    What is interesting: if it were not for the Russian Empire, then there would be no USA in the project. The Britons would then crush their rebellious colony.
  15. Maks1995
    Maks1995 27 December 2022 18: 13
    -1
    Everyone knew this before. Smi's ears buzzed.
    Logical.
    We LDNR also didn’t transmit anything modern.
    Those from the pipes with self-made chitoto were sometimes allegedly riveted.
  16. tarragon
    tarragon 27 December 2022 18: 14
    0
    Only in the reports there is little of this technique flashes. Apparently Ukraine is holding this technique for the front.
  17. Mishka78
    Mishka78 27 December 2022 18: 24
    +4
    Those. Ukrainian APU stopped our offensive and even partially drove our troops away on the old and dead trash?
    Awesome news.
    1. Custodian
      Custodian 27 December 2022 23: 33
      +1
      Right now, couch turbopatriots are throwing their hats
  18. Alexy
    Alexy 27 December 2022 23: 40
    +1
    Well, if the Hymers are called trash, then what kind of weapon does America use in its army.
  19. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 28 December 2022 17: 04
    0
    It’s as if we don’t have T-62s and BMP 1s there, among other things, they are now fighting. And what kind of antiques went to the LDNR!