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Is our shield cracking? Why are we so careless about our nuclear weapons carriers?

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Is our shield cracking? Why are we so careless about our nuclear weapons carriers?

The events of December this year make us remember some of the dogmas that have been instilled and are being instilled in humanity for many decades. For as long as I can remember, and I have been living in this world for quite a long time, I was inspired by two thoughts that really ingrained themselves in my brain.


The first thought sounds simple, as it is repeated almost daily in various media by politicians, analysts, columnists and other media personalities. Nuclear weapon - this is not a weapon in its classical form, but a tool to deter the enemy.

Now, if the enemy uses such weapons against our troops or our territory, then we will respond! We will answer even when we die! The whole world is in ruins ... But then! We just don't have to answer.

There, in the camp of enemies, they are also not idiots and do not want to die either. In general, it's understandable. I do not think that other fellow citizens have never heard such statements.

And the second no less replicated idea. Our nuclear triad is so well protected that no enemy will even come close. Moreover, most of the objects of the nuclear triad are located in our deep rear.

As long as an enemy missile or drone flies, someone will definitely shoot it down! And if they don’t shoot down, then there are such bunkers made of kilometer-long reinforced concrete that not a single bomb will take ...

And here again and, to put it mildly, bad luck. On December 5, some creature nevertheless flew to one of the objects of this very nuclear triad. And not only flew in, but also caused quite a tangible damage. And on December 26, another arrived.

True, as they say, the air defense missile “pushed” this creature off its combat course, and it banged not in the parking lot, but in one of the buildings of the airfield. More precisely, based on the reports of American intelligence - into empty containers, and there it has already detonated. The officers of the ground service, who were in the trailer for heating the personnel, died.

Well, what is the result? Our nuclear triad has been hit. And twice. But inflicted by a non-nuclear state. And our military doctrine "hung". It is necessary to answer, but it is not yet clear how.

Most likely, we will soon see another attack by drones and missiles on infrastructure facilities. Again, half-hearted measures that will only strengthen the enemy’s confidence in his own security ...

Are there weapons of deterrence or weapons of sedation?


Indeed, is there such weapons in principle? Probably happens. A knife or a gas pistol, a gas spray or some kind of baseball bat will quite "keep" hooligans from attacking. A machine gun or a tank will also make you think about whether to attack. They will also hold back. The presence of almost any weapon in the hands of the defender is a deterrent.

But what happens when this weapon is in the hands of the attacker? Never mind. The weapon hasn't changed. Only the purpose of its application has changed. Now this is a classic weapon. For an attack and for a rebuff - in case of an answer from the defender.

That is why we view US missiles in silos as a real threat, and the Americans view our missiles in the same way. That is why our Yars terrify the American military. Everything that is connected with nuclear weapons and can quickly move and change positions, especially if they are launchers, is extremely dangerous for the enemy.

Today, strategic nuclear weapons do deter other nuclear states from directly using such weapons in numerous military conflicts around the world. But the example of Ukraine shows a completely different situation. A non-nuclear state strikes at the territory of a nuclear state.

I am sure that in this situation it is necessary to act adequately. For such countries, there is a completely different “weapon of calm”. We look, for example, at the Ukrainian capital. "Ghost town", as one of the former advisers to the President of Ukraine said yesterday.

Residents of the capital are scattered to other cities and countries. Cruel? Isn't it cruel to blow up the bridges that provide life for the whole peninsula? And shelling Donetsk and other Donbas settlements is not savage? And killing more civilians every day than those who die in strikes all over Ukraine in one city is not brutal.

To be honest, I thought that the actions that Russia demonstrated after December 5 would bring Ukrainian society and the Ukrainian leadership to their senses. Kyiv will understand that there will be no more impunity. Ukraine has finally convinced Russian society that we really are no longer brothers. Alas, but, in my opinion, the majority of Russians, like the majority of Ukrainians, today do not really see the brotherhood of our peoples.

President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly stated that "we haven't started yet." And when will we start? When will the same drone suddenly appear within the Moscow MKAD? Or when the number of Ukrainian DRGs trying to cross the Russian-Ukrainian border. reaches tens or hundreds? Isn't it time to use that very weapon of calm?

Do we really need, for example, a government quarter in Kyiv? Do we really need the buildings of the administration of the President of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense or the Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Human losses in such strikes? Let's not be cynical, the losses will be minimal already because the structures that lived there before the NWO have not been working in these buildings for a long time.

And yet, the Ukrainians quite deliberately struck a blow at a specific Russian official of the highest echelon of power. Will we answer? Or our officials do not deserve it? I personally have no doubt that at the first even minimal opportunity, Ukraine is 100% likely to strike at any Russian statesman, including the president.

It is time to move from deterrence to the normal use of weapons. We will understand what kind of particular weapon belongs to later, after the victory.

This is not the impudence of Ukraine, this is an order from Washington


And I would like to consider one more aspect of what happened on December 2 and 26. For some reason, we are only talking about what "buns" Kyiv receives after each high-profile terrorist attack. Be it the blowing up of the Crimean bridge, the shelling of an airfield, the injury of a major Russian official, and the like. At the same time, no one doubts that the main task of the West was and is today to destroy Russia as a single state.

This is rather strange. What did Ukraine get after December 5? A bunch of problems with logistics, with electricity, with heat and so on. Although outwardly it looked impressive. But let's look at the results. Biden patted the clown on the shoulder, held his ass and… Nothing but what was already promised. And with a difference in time. Not here and now, but later, during ...

Now let's look at the situation more broadly. In terms of global politics. Let us recall the international treaties on the non-proliferation and limitation of nuclear weapons. Do you remember what it is about? About the quantity and quality of not only nuclear charges, but also the carriers of these charges. Moreover, the parties thoroughly consider each carrier. Not everything in general, but each of the possible carriers specifically.

Strategic bombers are just one of the types of such carriers! On December 5, two were damaged. Tu-22M3 Backfire-C and Tu-95MS Bear-H (according to Western terminology). Luckily this didn't happen yesterday. The Americans report that the UAV nevertheless flew and was indeed tangentially hit by an air defense missile. That's why he plopped down in the area of ​​\u2b\uXNUMXbthe steering track number XNUMX.

It turns out that at this particular moment we have two nuclear weapons carriers less. On the one hand, this is not critical in peacetime, and we do not have a war with the United States. On the other hand, the situation in the world today is such that it can break out at any moment. And not only in Ukraine.

It is foolish to hope for a quick repair and return to service of strategic bombers. These machines are too unique to be repaired in a short time. What if yesterday's attack had succeeded? How many cars would miss the 22nd aviation heavy bomber division? How many carriers would lose our nuclear forces?

Instead of a conclusion


Russia's nuclear shield has been and remains a certain guarantee of our independence. Far from complete, but quite a serious guarantee. The fact that we continue to exist as a sovereign state, despite all the reforms, perestroika and other betrayal, is largely the merit of those who continue to serve in one of the components of the nuclear triad.

I have heard many times the words that today we are fighting not with Ukraine and Ukrainians, but with the global West and Western armies. Ukrainians are just extras in this battle. Consumable. So, we must clearly share the punishment. For those who do and for those who give orders.

I expressed my point of view on the first question. On the second, everything is much more complicated. It seems to me that the confrontation with the West is for a long time. At least, I do not know of a time when such serious pressure would have been exerted on Russia, when we would have been so fiercely hated and wished for our death.

Our break with Europe and the USA is for a long time. For decades. We must be ready for this. For those who hope that the supporters of the Western idea will somehow win another victory, and the West will accept us as slaves, as it was in the 90s, this will not happen. No longer. Our "partners" will not miss the second chance. They also understand that Russia is a special world, capable of not only reviving in difficult times, but also self-cleansing.

Our nuclear shield must not only be kept in perfect order, but also developed. So that the West does not even have the thought of the possibility of an unanswered strike. And Ukraine is temporary. And, I think, not for long. Here we and the Ukrainians have lost it. Breakdown is inevitable.

The only pity is that we had a hand in this disintegration. For terror against one's own people, one often pays with one's own statehood. Here we have to agree with President Putin...

PS


Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov expressed the opinion that the statements of "unnamed officials" from the Pentagon about inflicting a "decapitation blow" on the Kremlin, in fact, speak of the threat of the physical removal of Russian President Vladimir Putin. He said this in an interview with TASS on December 27, 2022.
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  1. Aristarkh Pasechnik
    Aristarkh Pasechnik 30 December 2022 04: 04
    -6
    What should be done with American satellites! You can’t shoot down, but you can blind and jam with electronic warfare!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 30 December 2022 07: 58
      +18
      Judging by the minuses, the Americans are against.
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 30 December 2022 08: 29
        +14
        Quote: Gardamir
        Judging by the minuses, the Americans are against.

        Against posts for gaining rating winked
      2. UAZ 452
        UAZ 452 30 December 2022 12: 51
        +13
        Perhaps the Americans are against the idea itself, but Russian commentators are against ideas that are absolutely not supported by real possibilities.
      3. albert
        albert 31 December 2022 14: 15
        +5
        Quote: Gardamir
        Judging by the minuses, the Americans are against.

        Here on the site, full of dill.
    2. Civil
      Civil 30 December 2022 08: 01
      +25
      Isn't this the Lavrov who provided us with a bunch of allies in the NWO?
      1. depressant
        depressant 30 December 2022 13: 00
        +33
        The Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs summed up the results of the year.
        The results of the year were summed up by the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
        1. ArchiPhil
          ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 18: 10
          +7
          Quote: depressant
          The Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs summed up the results of the year.
          The results of the year were summed up by the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

          Oops! Lyudmila Yakovlevna! That's what you gave out. That's a pun! Ah yes, bravo! love laughing * I laughed so hard there. * (c)bully
        2. vladcub
          vladcub 30 December 2022 18: 58
          +5
          Lyudmila Yakovlevna, good evening. Someone hasn't seen you for a long time
  2. bya965
    bya965 30 December 2022 05: 10
    -11
    The author cannot make impenetrable air defense.
    An example, small Israel on it is a tiny area with the "Iron Dome". Well, Che, they practically pierce with blanks. I'm talking about the economy in general.
    The air defense of the USSR, as shown by the SVO, was the best and still relevant.
    I am sure that the process is underway and the air defense of the Russian Federation will surpass "Western technologies" by orders of magnitude.
    But, you can’t make impenetrable air defense.
    PS. And whipping up hysteria about nuclear safety is very ugly.
    1. AAK
      AAK 30 December 2022 07: 45
      +22
      "Impenetrable" air defense really cannot be created if it is created "everywhere", but on the approaches to especially important military (primarily strategic nuclear forces facilities) and industrial facilities, it should be exactly "impenetrable", otherwise what Bandera did with our strategic objects with just a couple of old Tupolev "Swifts" or "Reiss", even with the technical assistance of "mattresses", you can’t call it anything other than a deafening slap in the face ... in the year 1941 - 1945, half of the air defense command would already she lay against the wall ... and even after Rust landed, there was still a crunch from the torn off shoulder straps ...
      1. Neo-9947
        Neo-9947 31 December 2022 16: 29
        +9
        Even the USSR did not create impenetrable air defense. Everyone remembers the landing of Rust on Red Square.
        As they said then, what if he was carrying a bomb? Did you unhook it over the Mausoleum?
        Now we are bombing the base of strategic missile carriers with impunity.
        A reasonable question, but where was our unparalleled air defense and now is? Can we rub bullshit?
        1. Amper
          Amper 1 January 2023 20: 21
          +2
          Impenetrable and unparalleled settled in the form of real estate and other pleasures in Gelendzhik, Valdai, Barvikha, Rublevka here and around the world hi Omnipotence and impunity, and for potential rebels - the guards. And suddenly it turned out that others can also squeeze out !!! And there’s nothing to defend with, someone sawed the protectors and pulled them away under the guise ... belay
        2. Guran33 Sergey
          Guran33 Sergey 2 January 2023 01: 26
          +2
          Rust had a strange route .. Which it was impossible to create and implement without the help of the KGB of the USSR - the air defense fighter was forbidden to shoot at the forest, the military air defense of the border area was subordinate to the KGB. It was a multi-way operation in order to remove supporters of the communist development of the country from the army leadership, so they faceless, disrespectful people who meekly destroyed the army and did not rein in the "young reformers" with ebony and company.
    2. Dingo
      Dingo 30 December 2022 08: 25
      +22
      The air defense of the USSR, as shown by the SVO, was the best and still relevant.

      And what was left of him after the "reforms of Taburetkin" and his "artist"?
      ... The Rzhevsky, Gorky, Yaroslavl air defense corps were disbanded ... (I served in the latter, in the Yaroslavl Red Banner Brigade of the RTV. Sergeant, ACS operator of the 1st class. In addition to the Yelets training in six months - two training grounds in Sary-Shagan, "Dal-78 "and" Soyuz-79 ", also for half a year in the steppe - they were looking for a" cure "... from" axes "in Western Europe, these, as they are," partners "... Found. For which he shook hands, thanks for service, Commander-in-Chief of Air Defense, Air Marshal AI Koldunov To me, a conscript sergeant and my calculation of guidance operators ..).
      And to be honest, it's sickening to look at this mess ...
      1. Taimen
        Taimen 31 December 2022 09: 32
        +4
        It’s bad when people who aren’t quite smart govern the country. And it’s really bad when cowardly traders with money and houses over the hill govern.
    3. Former soldier
      Former soldier 30 December 2022 12: 52
      +10
      But, you can’t make impenetrable air defense.


      Yes, you can’t make impenetrable air defense against a massive strike. But against one single drone of the second freshness, it is possible and necessary.
      1. stankow
        stankow 31 December 2022 19: 59
        0
        Not against first. The second one has already been taken down. Is not it ?
    4. vladcub
      vladcub 30 December 2022 19: 07
      -1
      100% agree with the last statement.
      "USSR air defense was the best" and not quite TVK: for that period: air defense zones were ideal, but now UAVs have appeared, and it can be launched from anywhere. In addition, there is no single state and a single air defense system.
      Such air defense zones are no longer practical. Now, practical mobility
    5. Agarkov
      Agarkov 31 December 2022 00: 49
      -5
      Do you remember Rust? I'm talking about the air defense of the USSR, which really was the best.
      1. svoroponov
        svoroponov 31 December 2022 11: 58
        +8
        Rust was led from the very border. Even interceptors flew around him. There was no order to shoot down, because they saw that it was a small civilian aircraft. The command was not received due to the fact that Gorbachev needed it to remove the military who were not pleasing to him at the top of the USSR Armed Forces. The military directly said that Gorbachev had agreed with the Americans in advance (through the Foreign Ministry) about such a provocation.
      2. stankow
        stankow 31 December 2022 20: 02
        +5
        Agarkov Remember. Seen, intercepted, inspected. Twice. But they didn’t shoot down, they don’t bring Chesnoy nuclear weapons.
    6. tsvetahaki
      tsvetahaki 2 January 2023 05: 15
      +1
      PS. And whipping up hysteria about nuclear safety is very ugly.

      Yes, all is well, beautiful marquise, except for a trifle.
  3. odometer
    odometer 30 December 2022 05: 37
    +3
    But Mr. Lavrov was dragged here in vain ... He had already "changed his shoes", joking, they say, such as trolling, they say ... wink
    1. skeptick2
      skeptick2 30 December 2022 11: 48
      +14
      But what a powerful postscript! Meaningful.
      Well, it is gratifying to see that Mr. Staver, our full-time political instructor, is, as always, at his combat post.
      But what is the point of the article?
      What needs to be strengthened?
      What needs to be deepened?
      What should be answered?
      As for the nuclear shield as a guarantee of Russia's security... That's how it is... Not a bad guarantee. But the country called the USSR also had a nuclear shield no smaller. If not more. And where is this country today? How did this nuclear shield help her survive?
      Not everything is so clear ...
      1. Former soldier
        Former soldier 30 December 2022 13: 43
        +3
        As for the nuclear shield as a guarantee of Russia's security... That's how it is... Not a bad guarantee. But the country called the USSR also had a nuclear shield no smaller. If not more. And where is this country today? How did this nuclear shield help her survive?

        Without a nuclear shield, everything bad would have been even worse and much sooner.
        1. skeptick2
          skeptick2 30 December 2022 15: 11
          +7
          I agree.
          But this, in principle, did not affect the final result of the existence of a state called the Soviet Union.
  4. Belisarius
    Belisarius 30 December 2022 05: 39
    +23
    Strange article. What does it mean we Are we careless about attacks on nuclear weapons bases? Who are we ? We - the Abramovichs-Putins-Rottenbergs - this is one thing, we - people digging in the trash or begging for alms, this is completely different ... The Russian authorities have "respect" for strikes on the bases of nuclear weapons carriers, since they come from respected Kyiv partners, they cannot be touched, Big Western Bosses will scold.
    To take the "war" of the authorities of the Russian Federation and the West seriously is necessary to have a completely alternative way of thinking, no one is going to put the mythical "nuclear shield" into action even in a nightmare.
    In this context, a surprise like, but we have all the bases with nuclear weapons full of holes; this is just childish naivete.
  5. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 30 December 2022 05: 48
    +11
    The idea - maybe you need to move the air bases from Engels closer to the Kremlin? To Red Square?
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    2. stankow
      stankow 31 December 2022 20: 05
      -3
      And this smacks of a call to terrorism.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 30 December 2022 06: 06
    +11
    The only pity is that we had a hand in this disintegration.
    And who is this "we" and how many of you who put your hands on it? Author, are you one of those who had a hand?
    1. Dingo
      Dingo 30 December 2022 07: 24
      +6
      And who is this "we" and how many of you who put your hands on it?

      Yes, there are not many of them, Alexey, in fact ...
      So, offhand - Chernomyrdin, Zurabov, Surkov ... the share was brought in by the godfather - the oligarch Medvedchuk, who convinced the "Kremlin" in his time that "it is possible to negotiate with the Nazis" ... So they "negotiate" so far ...
      True, there are no others, and those are far away - "but this is different" ...
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 30 December 2022 10: 46
        +6
        Yes, there are not many of them, Alexey, in fact ...
        I, with those indicated, are somehow not "we" .. laughing I think you too hi Holiday greetings..
        1. ArchiPhil
          ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 21: 01
          +3
          Quote: parusnik
          Advancing

          What is the coming century preparing for us? Nothing good. Bad? A lot!
        2. ArchiPhil
          ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 21: 05
          +8
          Quote: parusnik
          Advancing

          * Grandfather * an impenetrable vest under a thin raincoat. And we! Do not bend under his wise rule. Everything. There was a country more or less sane.
      2. ArchiPhil
        ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 20: 58
        +1
        Quote: Dingo
        True, there are no others, and those are far away - "but this is different" ...

        Stop it. Just remember the 91st. Huh?
        1. ArchiPhil
          ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 21: 40
          +6
          Quote: ArchiPhil
          91st.A

          I mean, they believed, hoped and ..upsss! Believe Putin ????? Well? Frankly an amateur.
      3. ArchiPhil
        ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 21: 11
        +5
        Quote: Dingo
        Surkov ... the share was brought in by the godfather - the oligarch Medvedchuk, who convinced the "Kremlin

        Pu ... no, not him. Ti. definitely not him. H???? Definitely not him. Question. But .... why did they come?
  7. Vladimir Mikhalev
    Vladimir Mikhalev 30 December 2022 06: 20
    -5
    There are also new methods, including without nuclear states. If anyone remembers the battles in Grozny, then chlorine gas was used there by militants (then Syria, where the question of destroying warheads was acutely raised). So then it was a practice for Ichkeria just to capture a warhead. That is, a mine is being made, a bomb with a gas filler installed along the route of our mobile nuclear mobile groups. The security team is gassed, and the attack team captures the warhead. After Ukraine with DRGs who used UAVs. More and more methods of influence appear on nuclear forces, I think the Americans have something in store. Therefore, until the end, one cannot hope for a nuclear shield, especially after.
    1. Aag
      Aag 30 December 2022 16: 11
      +5
      "... That is, a mine is being made, a bomb with a gas filler installed along the route of our mobile nuclear mobile groups. The guard group is gassed, and the attack group captures the warhead ..."
      For twenty years of service in the Strategic Missile Forces, I have never seen a single NBR (combat crew number) without a gas mask, OZK (L-1).
      And ALL the standards were worked out, including "in the conditions of the use of chemical weapons and nuclear weapons by the enemy."
      "... Therefore, until the end, one cannot hope for a nuclear shield, especially after.
      ... ".
      NOT THEREFORE!
      "... captures the warhead..."
      The effect of such a screenplay is more media ...
      hi
      1. Aag
        Aag 30 December 2022 16: 32
        +4
        "... without a gas mask..."
        And all significant units, premises are equipped with FVU ...
        1. ArchiPhil
          ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 22: 34
          +1
          Quote: AAG
          equipped with FVU...

          Motherland Everyone screams ugly. And we like her Sleeping Beauty .... The author of these words is an agent? Right?
        2. ArchiPhil
          ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 22: 36
          -1
          Quote: AAG
          equipped with FVU...

          Enough, huh?
        3. ArchiPhil
          ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 22: 39
          0
          Quote: AAG
          significant units, premises are equipped with FVU ...

          Who is this gray Petersburg super agent?
      2. ArchiPhil
        ArchiPhil 30 December 2022 21: 44
        +3
        Quote: AAG
        The effect of such a screenplay is more media ...

        Why then? Crashed a? to / to Ukraine? Why? Spartak & CSKA, I understand. Russia-Ukraine with difficulty.
        1. svoroponov
          svoroponov 31 December 2022 12: 21
          -3
          They would have stuck to us - that's for sure. Or are you not with us?
          In general, I look, there are only groans here. ,, everyone pissed everything off, we will all die, So in Russia, no one is holding you, cowards and weak-willed people. Pack your suitcase and go.
          And out of ignorance, there is no need to carry various nonsense with attacks on the military-political leadership.
          ,, The cat abandoned the kittens, it's Putin's fault ,,
          Prove that it was you who could run the country better. Can't and can't? So what are you criticizing?
          Just imagine yourself that you are the president and....? That's right, from the selection of personnel, well, choose the right and honest ones the first time. Yes, and I am sure that even your best friends and relatives, because you will pull them to the top in the first place, when they have access to big money, they will “leak” into their pockets. I will not develop the topic further. But Putin, in his conditions and situation both in the country and abroad, simply did the impossible - he raised the country from, practically, ruins. A lot of people will remember him, and he just entered the history of Russia.
          And they will forget about you immediately after the funeral - what you were, what you were not.
          So, they were born, ,, smoldered ,, their lives, and perished.
  8. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 30 December 2022 06: 37
    +1
    How long the break with Europe will be decided by commercial matters. Without good intelligence, there is nothing to say about the country's security. After Powers' flight in 1961, the place of his departure and the entire path were clearly marked. Now they are wondering where the drones flew from. Either from Ukraine, or from Kazakhstan. You simply can’t live like that.
    1. stankow
      stankow 31 December 2022 20: 12
      -1
      So Pauzers himself indicated the place of departure laughing And the landing place was kindly "indicated" to him. Route - flatbed drawing all the time, "in real time" laughing
    2. svoroponov
      svoroponov 1 January 2023 02: 10
      +1
      Nito guesses. Came from Ukraine. This is a Tu-type reconnaissance aircraft, modified by the Americans. They laid a route in his head with a bypass of our air defense zones. They have an object character on the territory of Russia, so you can plan a route to bypass these zones, which was done. While the civilians and military inside the country will figure out what is flying, he will already rewind a certain distance and go to a low altitude not far from the target. The way out is simple - Strengthen the air defense of objects and distribute equipment, you can build shelter hangars, or you can do something like concrete arches over a parking and refueling site - protection from fragments. It was already under the USSR. So there is no need to invent anything.
      Well, to the Americans, through the Syrians and where else they conduct training or hostilities, send “hello” to their locations and bases. In most cases, they are there illegally.
      Yes, the damage to the aircraft is not large. The upholstery wasn't damaged much. The repair is not long, then fly around and forward,
  9. nickname7
    nickname7 30 December 2022 08: 30
    -7
    we will soon see another attack by drones and missiles on infrastructure

    In the cart they write this whole operation was reconnaissance satellites of the West are constantly collecting information on airfields and bases, literally spying on these objects, looking for weaknesses. If the Armed Forces of Ukraine launch drones, then reconnaissance of air defense position areas is carried out from the Black Sea by means of drones.
    The strategists' parking places must be masked, cables with camouflage nets must be pulled over the airfield, smoke should be blown on a clear sunny day or mirrors should be installed to create glare for satellites.
  10. Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 30 December 2022 09: 13
    +9
    It’s high time for the author to understand that we have nothing to answer with, we don’t have any super weapons, and we didn’t have ... we came to fight with weapons of the Soviet heritage, with weapons of the 21st century .... the situation is worsening and will worsen every day ... the use of nuclear weapons is excluded, we will be slapped in response, many times
    1. Sergei N 58912062
      Sergei N 58912062 30 December 2022 16: 19
      -10
      the use of nuclear weapons is excluded, we will be slapped in response, many times
      Attacks on our airfields gives Russia the right to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine. Paragraph "c" article 19 of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation N ° 355. Will the US and NATO dare to use nuclear weapons against Russia if Russia uses them against Ukraine? I think not! Americans and Europeans are not ready to die for Ukrainians.
    2. stankow
      stankow 31 December 2022 20: 13
      0
      Is the situation getting worse? laughing For whom ?
      ..............
    3. svoroponov
      svoroponov 1 January 2023 02: 17
      0
      For more details about the answer ,, many times ,,. We have parity in strategic weapons. But we have much more tactical nuclear weapons than all other countries combined. We can develop new things quickly, the production complex is fully preserved, but the West cannot do it quickly. There are no raw materials and opportunities. Even the United States has a failure in terms of competence and production, and they cannot quickly reverse this situation.
  11. Maks1995
    Maks1995 30 December 2022 09: 19
    +9
    Panic is too much
    Anyone knows that these games - with bombings, moonscapes, and liquidations - are rarely played by one player. Usually 2, 3 or even more ....
    And the players usually arrive, there is nowhere to go. He says that we can bomb Kyiv - and they are on our military airfield, no, no, no way - this is hypocrisy ...
    Therefore, somehow arranging the planes, protecting is a common thing in fact

    And if someone said that our radars look through Europe and stealth through and through, and anti-aircraft guns will shoot down everything and everything, then ideally - a trial for deceit, a term, Siberia ... well, you understand ...
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 30 December 2022 10: 01
      +7
      if someone said that our radars scan Europe and stealth through and through, and anti-aircraft guns will shoot down everything and everything, then ideally - a trial for deceit, a term, Siberia ... well, you understand ...

      and if it was "their own people" who declared "true patriots of the fatherland", and not only deceived, but also continue - how to be?
      1. Arcius Long
        Arcius Long 30 December 2022 14: 38
        +4
        Grow a brain and not take everyone's word for it. Nobody canceled critical thinking.
      2. Maks1995
        Maks1995 30 December 2022 16: 50
        +1
        Specially wrote: "Ideally."
        ... alas, alas ...
  12. Illanatol
    Illanatol 30 December 2022 13: 38
    -3
    It turns out that at this particular moment we have two nuclear weapons carriers less. On the one hand, this is not critical in peacetime, and we do not have a war with the United States. On the other hand, the situation in the world today is such that it can break out at any moment. And not only in Ukraine.


    This is really not critical in peacetime. Since there is such a thing - "combat duty". Those. some carriers are constantly in full combat readiness. We have as much as we need on combat duty, damage to two nuclear weapons carriers does not affect this in any way. They will fix them, of course.

    Yes, the incident is unpleasant, especially since the story is murky and may have a touch of deliberate sabotage.
  13. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 30 December 2022 13: 39
    +10
    Who are "we? Oligarchs who degreased and degreased the whole country? Minister of Defense? Or poor people who seem to live in the richest country in the world like Liberians, Nigerians, Eritreans?
  14. Illanatol
    Illanatol 30 December 2022 13: 45
    +2
    Quote from: skeptick2
    But the country called the USSR also had a nuclear shield no smaller. If not more. And where is this country today? How did this nuclear shield help her survive?


    No way. But, at least, the collapse of the USSR passed without much bloodshed. But if there were no nuclear weapons, it would be like in Yugoslavia (adjusted for our scale).
    They have already tried to arrange their own "Maidan" for us, leading the "Belogand...kov" to Bolotnaya. But, unlike August 1991, this scenario did not work. And it is unlikely to work again, all sorts of bulk there will remain in the losers.
  15. Illanatol
    Illanatol 30 December 2022 13: 47
    -1
    Quote: Former soldier
    Yes, you can’t make impenetrable air defense against a massive strike. But against one single drone of the second freshness, it is possible and necessary.


    What if it's not necessary? If someone needed a drone to fly?
    The version, of course, is on the verge of a foul, but this cannot be completely ruled out.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 30 December 2022 17: 02
      +1
      And what is the motive? To convince someone of the danger of forelocks?
  16. fiv
    fiv 30 December 2022 15: 05
    +5
    We had a tractor driver drunk on a K-700 driving to the position of "Satan". On the component of the triad. The tractor was disassembled from a machine gun.
    1. Vasily Bakharev
      Vasily Bakharev 30 December 2022 21: 36
      0
      With us, this is in the Uzhur division
      in October 1982?
  17. Sergei N 58912062
    Sergei N 58912062 30 December 2022 16: 12
    -9
    It is necessary to answer, but it is not yet clear how.
    For the slow-witted, attacks on our airfields give Russia the right to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine. Paragraph "c" article 19 of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation N ° 355.
    Ukraine has finally convinced Russian society that we really are no longer brothers.
    Personally, Ukraine convinced me of this back in 2014.
    Isn't it time to use that very weapon of calm?
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 30 December 2022 17: 00
      +4
      This right is given only by cast-iron (here rather lead) eggs.
    2. runway-1
      runway-1 30 December 2022 21: 00
      +2
      For the slow-witted, attacks on our airfields give Russia the right to use nuclear weapons against Ukraine.
      Maybe a bang?
  18. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 30 December 2022 16: 17
    +1
    = Residents of the capital scatter to other cities and countries. Cruel? Isn't it cruel to blow up the bridges that provide life for the whole peninsula? And shelling Donetsk and other Donbas settlements is not savage? And killing more civilians every day than those who die in strikes all over Ukraine in one city is not brutal. =
    Certainly cruel and brutal. And savagely too.
    But tell me, who suffered from our attacks on the energy facilities of the Outskirts? Did the Outskirts Army suffer greatly from these blows? Yes, slightly. What about old people, women, children? These are complete. What about patients in hospitals where there is neither light nor heat? Have you had to look into the eyes of children who do not understand why they are in the basement, why mom can’t cook food for them, and why they go to bed dressed and mom wraps them in another blanket, and shell explosions and machine-gun bursts are heard upstairs? I could agree with this if it undermined the combat capability of the Ukrainians. troops. And, if we face the truth, then by such actions we are fighting not with the army of the Outskirts, not with the authorities of the Outskirts, but with the women, old people and children of the Outskirts.
    Question to the author - if your car was stolen, or a neighbor burned down your dacha. Are you going to steal a car or burn a neighbor's cottage? I am sure that - no. It is impossible to imitate and, it is impossible to take revenge, even for the Crimea, even for Donetsk.
    Is there an alternative to this? There is. Nodal railway stations and bridges. Here. what needs to be destroyed. This will undermine the combat capability of the Ukrainian. army.
    = Consumable. So, we must clearly share the punishment. For those who do and for those who give orders. =
    Yes, I agree, the outskirts are consumables. Outskirts - performer. And you propose to strike at the TNW executor - = Isn't it time to use the very weapon of calm?=
    Then what punishment do you propose for those who ORDER? = I expressed my point of view on the first question. On the second, everything is much more complicated. = i.e. Are you undecided yet?
    But you have decided what you need to hit - = We really need, for example, a government quarter in Kyiv? Do we really need the buildings of the administration of the President of Ukraine, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense or the Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Human losses in such strikes? Let's not be cynical, the losses will be minimal already because the structures that lived there before the NWO have not been working in these buildings for a long time. = Yes, destroying empty buildings is cool, it will greatly undermine the combat capability of the UA. And the casualties among the civilians will be minimal - just think - the guards and cleaners will die. But what is their fault?
    = Our break with Europe and the USA is for a long time. For decades. =
    Maybe yes, maybe not. If we achieve the stated goals in the NWO - we will change power in the Outskirts, we will annex part of it to ourselves, the rest, no matter how many regions there are in this part, we will make it our ally, i.e. WIN, the West will cooperate with us. Let them not recognize the results of the NWO, but they will cooperate. The United States did not recognize the Baltic states as part of the USSR, so what? We cooperated.
    1. hottabychchchch
      hottabychchchch 30 December 2022 19: 28
      +2
      that's right, decision-making centers in Kyiv do not suffer
  19. dfk-80
    dfk-80 30 December 2022 16: 58
    +2
    Brad for the sake of bullshit. Aviation is such a carrier of nuclear weapons. Especially against the background of mines, submarines and mobile complexes.
    As a participant in the defense of the missile regiment of the Strategic Missile Forces from militants of a certain Ichkeria - they could take the launcher, but what's the point?
    And the goal of the amers is to force us to use nuclear weapons - at least tactical. So far, they are the only creatures in our universe that have used nuclear weapons against living beings. Meaningful, albeit useless.
    Those. want to get the right to use it on the planet.
  20. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 30 December 2022 16: 59
    +1
    It is believed that:

    1. The Russian Federation is still carrying out certain agreements with various other countries.
    2. You can inflict a separate “prestige strike” on anything. But hitting 200-300 individual targets with a guarantee is not. It is more profitable to make more mobile launchers than to protect a small number from the air.
  21. stoqn477
    stoqn477 30 December 2022 17: 18
    +3
    Are your bombers regularly involved in the shelling of Ukrainian territory? They are participating. Are they legitimate military targets? Yes! If you don't like it, send it somewhere closer to China and don't use it. No one will shoot at them there. It's all just a Nuclear strike on Kyiv? Then you will talk about peace and the future restoration of trust between you and the Ukrainians. So how to do it?
  22. KDL
    KDL 30 December 2022 20: 41
    +3
    Comrade author! What is the article about? And to whom are your questions directed? Did you accidentally design a wall newspaper at school? A couple of clippings from different newspapers and you're done! Or is it now AI that writes everything for you?
  23. filibuster
    filibuster 30 December 2022 21: 02
    +2
    Our break with Europe and the USA is for a long time. For decades. We must be ready for this. For those who hope that the supporters of the Western idea will somehow win another victory, and the West will accept us as slaves, as it was in the 90s, this will not happen. No longer. Our "partners" will not miss the second chance. They also understand that Russia is a special world, capable of not only reviving in difficult times, but also self-cleansing.


    After the surrender of Kherson, the author’s forecasts are not yours, there is no serious gap, we have the same values ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwith the West (capitalism, a market economy, oligarchs, etc.), the Kremlin decided to hold a classic “small victorious SVO”, did not calculate the forces, fix losses and start new stage.
  24. Fangaro
    Fangaro 30 December 2022 21: 35
    +2
    Find somewhere a peaceful corner. So that the damned capitalists would have a place to live, and we, who want socialism, would have enough space.
  25. Aag
    Aag 30 December 2022 22: 39
    +1
    And, by the way, - a curious illustrative photo for the article: Who, When, saw this?! -. at least four Poplars are marching, it seems, for recycling ..... Well, no, NO, such a battle formation, formation!
    hi
  26. the most important
    the most important 30 December 2022 23: 16
    +2
    The only pity is that we had a hand in this disintegration.
    Well, you don’t need to make all VO readers guilty. Each problem has its own name.
  27. certero
    certero 31 December 2022 01: 45
    +1
    As long as "invulnerable" gas and oil pipelines pump oil and gas through the territory of Ukraine, it is simply pointless to discuss everything else.
    I remember in the XNUMXth century there was a case when the besieging imperial troops almost completely ran out of gunpowder. But in the besieged Dutch city of gunpowder was heaps.
    And the besieged quite calmly sold the surplus to the besiegers.
    I always thought it was precisely those grimaces of nascent capitalism that Lenin wrote about selling the rope.
    It turns out that capitalism really is
  28. Drugov
    Drugov 31 December 2022 02: 00
    0
    Let's take a simpler look at the nuclear triad. If there is an exchange of blows, then the vast majority of strategists will not even have time to rise into the air, not to mention the fact that they would charge and shoot back ...
    1. Illanatol
      Illanatol 31 December 2022 14: 18
      -1
      Quote: Drugov
      Let's take a simpler look at the nuclear triad. If there is an exchange of blows, then the overwhelming majority of strategists will not even have time to rise into the air, not to mention the fact that they would charge and shoot back ..


      The exchange of blows - not from scratch. There will be time to bring the strategists to "readiness number 1". And enemy warheads do not fly at the speed of light.
  29. vvn_vl
    vvn_vl 31 December 2022 10: 37
    0
    as long as the army is run by party leaders and managers, nothing will change
  30. Illanatol
    Illanatol 31 December 2022 14: 15
    0
    Quote: Sancho_SP
    And what is the motive? To convince someone of the danger of forelocks?


    Look for who benefits and who will try to take advantage of the incident. And tilt the so-called. "public opinion" in the right direction.
    There are too many muddy stories ... analogies with the First World War are involuntarily seen.
  31. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 31 December 2022 14: 20
    0
    But inflicted by a non-nuclear state. And our military doctrine "hung". It is necessary to answer, but it is not yet clear how.

    To be fair, what if THIS WAS THE ANSWER? Only not ours but Ukrainian. For example, for the "removal" of some object or sensitive component of the power system. The author argues as if we are sitting on the priest exactly AND THERE IS ARRIVED. But this is not so, from the word at all. Causality is a long and complicated thing, we respond to that, they respond to this, we respond to this, and so on ..
    1. storm
      storm 1 January 2023 02: 30
      0
      But inflicted by a non-nuclear state. And our military doctrine "hung". It is necessary to answer, but it is not yet clear how.


      The question is about the quality of preparation of the Russian security doctrine and the mental abilities of those who developed and approved it .....
  32. stankow
    stankow 31 December 2022 19: 54
    +2
    I don’t know what is hammered into the brains of the author as he writes. I only know that a nuclear response is being carried out by all surviving means. Toest allowed the loss of some of them, incl. from non-nuclear means of destruction, all kinds of axes, for example, drones, sabotage by hour N. Nevertheless, in this case, the enemy will suffer "unacceptable losses." And it has been working for 70 years now.
  33. pleschakovai
    pleschakovai 31 December 2022 21: 46
    +1
    Yes, yes, yes - sabotage and betrayal! The traitors in the person of the assistant combine operator Gorbachev began to destroy the air defense! The generals of the General Staff and Air Defense did not give the command to fill up the Rust span! What did they all pay! It was necessary to follow instructions, instructions for combat work, and not look at the traitor Gorbachev! From this, everything went and the destruction of the "unnecessary air defense missile system" began! Friends and partners appeared everywhere and everywhere? Then the drunkard Yeltsin continued to destroy, also with gentlemen liberals and shit krats in the person of assistants and advisers! Objective air defense is all DESTROYED !!! Everything is open and no one protects anything, except for Moscow and the dachas of the gentlemen of the oligarchs. He continued to destroy the country's air defense, military schools Medvedev, together with Serdukov and Vasilyeva. They continued the collapse of the Soviet Army, which defeated fascism and liberated the peoples of Europe from the brown plague! And now liberals and shit krats are taking revenge? Comrades, friends, fellow students, fellow soldiers - you and I are ordinary Russians and villagers again and again in deep ZO ..! Another betrayal of the Russians! What is going on? Where are the secret services? Will they oversleep again, how did they squander the great talker and talker Marked Mishka and other creatures in their time? God forgive me, save and save Russia from the next traitors in the face of liberals and crap krats! am am am angry angry angry
  34. storm
    storm 1 January 2023 02: 22
    0
    that the statements of "unnamed officials" from the Pentagon about inflicting a "decapitation blow" on the Kremlin, in fact, speak of the threat of the physical elimination of Russian President Vladimir Putin.


    Any power is worth anything if it can defend itself.
    If the authorities have brought the Armed Forces to such a state that they cannot even protect the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, this is already a problem for the whole country, and not just the current leadership of the Russian Federation.
  35. AlexWar
    AlexWar 1 January 2023 14: 26
    0
    Aircraft should be in protected structures, and maybe they had to be equipped there so that the enemy from space could not see what we were doing. And then we only rolled up rockets to planes, all over Ukraine they already know that a flight is planned. Air defense has a new target - low-flying targets, it is necessary to put radars along the entire border, and put military air defense in the border troops, something can also fly to them. During the war, it is necessary to increase the air defense grouping, until we have also lost military factories producing weapons. In particular, the military grouping should be responsible for low-flying targets, they should be on duty in the same way as the air defense of the air force. And in my opinion, our Ministry of Defense needs to insert a map of the country's air defense that we do not have under cover. And then our missiles can fly in from Siberia soon, there are no air defenses there at all. Air defense locators should be installed in the border troops in order to monitor what enters our space. Now we need troops who will monitor the work of the locators. So that all data is transmitted to a common air defense node. Maybe we don't need a lot of air defense troops, but the units must provide locators. Signal troops are also engaged in various locators. Can locators be supplied to the communications troops ???? Signal troops work in constant combat readiness at their nodes.
  36. AlexWar
    AlexWar 1 January 2023 14: 34
    0
    We need double control of air defense. Place locators in parts, for example, where the headquarters is, where the communications troops are. And so that they have the opportunity to call the air defense and say that we have an object here that you are sleeping. To punish those who sleep more often.
  37. AlexWar
    AlexWar 1 January 2023 14: 37
    0
    Here in the NVO they say that they can’t get through, and they still can’t if the headquarters and signal troops are disabled. And then everyone drops the equipment and runs
  38. AlexWar
    AlexWar 1 January 2023 14: 41
    0
    The work of military air defense must be strengthened. They are not enough even to cover their headquarters and signal troops. It was also near Krasny Liman, apparently they broke communication centers and headquarters there, control was lost, and the troops stood nearby and did nothing.
  39. AlexWar
    AlexWar 1 January 2023 14: 50
    0
    Unmanned vehicles can be used to transport money, gold, drugs across the border. In Siberia, we don’t have air defense at all, they say they checked that a lot of things were flying. We need stationary locators, a network of locators at the border. Then there will be no such situations as an attack on the Engels airfield.
  40. Amateur
    Amateur 1 January 2023 15: 03
    -1
    And here again and, to put it mildly, bad luck. On December 5, some one nevertheless flew to one of the objects of this very nuclear triad. And not only flew in, but also caused quite a tangible damage. And on December 26, another arrived.

    An attack on an airfield where nuclear weapons carriers are based and an attack on a facility where nuclear weapons are stored are very different things. How does Mr. Staver know exactly where it is kept? And if by chance he knows why he is talking.
    Another set of words, located somewhere in the middle between "all the polymers" and "nonsense war mares".
  41. Sergey_K
    Sergey_K 2 January 2023 10: 25
    +2
    I support completely! It's time to answer....! Smart answer! Without tearful pity! And everyone...
  42. BorzRio
    BorzRio 2 January 2023 16: 42
    +1
    No matter what anyone says, this SVO revealed all that sweet ear of citizens lies that high-ranking officials slandered about our modern army and navy. As it turned out, she didn't. There are only rare focal professional units capable of modern combat operations ... But they are clearly less than 10% of the entire army. In the coming years, everything in the army must be changed from scratch.
  43. AnAAsd
    AnAAsd 4 January 2023 00: 48
    -1
    It all comes down to the decision of one person and it's very sad...
  44. Altmann
    Altmann 4 January 2023 12: 45
    0
    An enemy can only be fought with force. Ukrainians prove it to us every day. Russia must clearly confirm that in no case does it want to cross the borders of another state.
    We should not be afraid to strike with force, whatever we do, the Russians are to blame for everything. So we can finally prove that this is the first time.
    Someone is in charge of the defense system, how would Stalin deal with this? am
  45. Tank destroyerSU-100
    Tank destroyerSU-100 4 January 2023 13: 20
    0
    Until the UAV explodes in a way that is considered a threat to the PERSONAL safety of you-know-who, the snot chewing will continue. In extreme cases, a threat to PERSONAL security, well, a very pleasant little man, a partner in hockey or in bath procedures. Only in this case there will be no mercy.
    Even if the strike causes the death of hundreds of non-combatants, civilians, the answer will be, at best, the destruction of a couple more energy facilities. Until there is a threat to PERSONAL security, it is useless to expect real iconic retaliatory strikes.
  46. spektr9
    spektr9 5 January 2023 07: 32
    0
    How to answer, there are tactical nuclear weapons, when threatened, they answer. But it’s enough even to go over the comments of the urashek on the RFP, at least on this site and we will see that it’s more likely that all the airfields with strategists will be demolished than the leadership decides to use it
    in fact, they are talking about the threat of the physical elimination of Russian President Vladimir Putin

    Who is slaughtering the goose that laid the golden eggs?
  47. Igorash
    Igorash 6 January 2023 11: 33
    0
    I read the comments below and understand that these people are invincible .. like those cows .. before slaughter .... But it doesn’t matter there .. That's what our regime has succeeded in, is that there is an excuse for everything ... So the comments below confirm this .... Well, they will find any reason to do nothing and not answer for anything .... And the question is right .. The United States is sure that Putin will chicken out .. and will again find an excuse ... I don’t want to look bastard, but I am absolutely sure that one of the reasons for the start of the operation was the approaching dates of the next presidential elections. Why? Yes, because before that he did not pay attention to the Russians who remained there ... The same Baltic states spread rot, assimilated .. And what? Yes, nothing .. And Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan? And that part of the Russians, their grandchildren, will also not hate us, just as the grandchildren of the allies abandoned and betrayed by us in 91 hate us, now they hate us ... They will return ...Be sure to return...with the ensuing consequences..for our grandchildren and their children....