The Russian government has allocated funds to finalize the promising Il-114 passenger aircraft

The Il-114 passenger aircraft will be finalized, the Russian government plans to allocate significant funds for work on the aircraft, but already next year. This follows from the relevant order of the Cabinet.

United Aircraft Corporation in 2023 will receive under the state program "Development aviation industry" more than 550 million rubles for the revision of the Il-114 passenger aircraft. There are no explanations in the document itself, but it is most likely about the modification of the Il-114-300, which has been created in recent years. Last year it was reported that the aircraft was at the stage tests, he made his first flight in December 2020, the second - in January 2021.

To provide in 2023 from the federal budget to the public joint-stock company "United Aircraft Corporation" (...) in order to finance the costs of finalizing the Il-114 aircraft (...) budget investments in the amount of 554400 thousand rubles

- the government says.

Work on the aircraft will be carried out by UAC together with the Ministry of Industry and Trade and the Federal Property Management Agency.

The Il-114-300 passenger aircraft is designed for operation on local airlines and is a modernized version of the Il-114 turboprop aircraft. It was planned that the latest Il-114-300 would replace the aging An-24 and a number of similar foreign aircraft.

The military was very interested in the aircraft, the Il-114-300, which has a flight duration of more than eight hours, low cruising speed with minimal fuel consumption, was considered as a promising patrol aircraft, reconnaissance or electronic warfare aircraft, etc. But so far everything is at the level of conversations.

Comments

[Civil]

The general designer of the Il-114 is G.V. Novozhilov. Chief designer of IL-114 - N. D. Talikov

During the development of the aircraft, special attention was paid to reducing the noise level, both on the ground and in the cockpit. For this purpose, six-bladed low-noise propellers SV-34 (manufactured by OAO NPP Aerosila) with a system for synchronizing their rotation in frequency and phases were developed. In addition, the gap between the ends of the blades and the fuselage skin has been increased. In the future, it is expected to use a theater with a capacity of about 2800 hp on the aircraft. with.

The Il-114 experimental aircraft performed its first flight on March 29, 1990.

Thanks to the USSR for our new developments. 32 years old and soon to be in service.

[Orange Bigg]

There is also interesting news about the widebody. Only about which one? IL-96-400M or CR-929?

In addition, in 2023 the government will allocate almost 900 million rubles to UAC for the implementation of a project to create a wide-body long-range aircraft, the corresponding order was published on the official portal of legal information.
"To provide in 2023 from the federal budget budgetary investments to the public joint-stock company United Aircraft Corporation ... in the amount of 896868,9 thousand rubles in order to financially cover the costs as part of the project to create a wide-body long-range aircraft," the document says.

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[Palestinian]

if they don’t cut the money, then finally a short-haul aircraft will appear ... after all, it’s a good car, it can take off from short runways, plus it was created for the Arctic

[Romanenko]

Somewhere in the early 90s, I was on a business trip in the North and was waiting for the weather at the airport, got into a conversation with the pilots, it turned out they were just from the new Il-114, the then version.
Frankly, that crew was not enthusiastic about the new aircraft, something can of course be attributed to novelty and unusualness, but they frankly missed the retired IL-14, they said that it had a better view from the cockpit and the engines picked up faster, although, of course, the TVD is not afraid of frost and launching on the 114th is easier.
In general, they then evaluated the new car for a C-plus, but of course with a discount on novelty, they say they will finalize and finish it ....
I hope that all the same brought and finalized.

[shikin]

Those 114 were of Tashkent assembly with American engines and imported avionics. What is being prepared for release is a heavily redesigned aircraft. We'll see what happened. True, there is some kind of delay. Possibly related to accident 112.

[Consultant]

Of course they will improve. Not by the 30th, so by the 40th year. Do not be sad.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Palestinian

if they don’t cut the money, then finally it will appear

You are joking? Some 550 million? And where is the 50 billion allocated at the very end of 2016 for the serial production of IL-114? For six years they have been modifying a 20-year-old aircraft from a serial backlog (purchased at the price of scrap metal), which they bought in Uzbekistan, plus they bought all the already produced aircraft (also at the price of scrap). Plus, they bought the equipment at the price of scrap. And for six years they have not been able to assemble a single aircraft. Yes, they will replace something from electronics, because the world has already moved forward for forty years. And that's it. They will not go further than this in 30-XNUMX aircraft anyway. This will be the ceiling that the average person will be given for achieving effective managers. So this whole epic is some kind of shame, which is still waiting for new prosecutors and investigators.

[Greg Miller]

Quote: Palestinian

if they don’t cut the money, then finally a short-haul aircraft will appear ... after all, it’s a good car, it can take off from short runways, plus it was created for the Arctic

It will not appear ... And those that are shown now are a repaired used car from Uzbekistan. It is simply amazing how Talikov became the chief designer ... After all, he is not even a design engineer by education, but a design technician ... These are all the shots of Rogozin Jr. ... With such shots, there will be no aircraft.

[mark1]

Those. Will it not go into the series yet, or does the refinement not affect the timing? Who understood?

[Guran33 Sergey]

Very vague - "flaws" .. Everything can be

[Orange Bigg]

There, as far as I understand, the TV7-117ST-01 engine is sort of being finalized.

[svp67]

the Russian government plans to allocate significant sums for work on the aircraft, but already next year.

Money is allocated regularly, but when will the result be? The IL-114 was already in production, is it possible that our industry is not in a position to resume it now?

[Aviator_]

IL-114 was already in production

It was in production with the Uzbeks with a Canadian engine, and now the Uzbeks have torn apart their aircraft factory, the rest was given to the railway workers.

[Stirbjorn]

Something like it takes a very long time to finalize the finished aircraft. they started in 2014, they still won’t finish it

[Nexcom]

the whole plug in the engines. before, at least they illuminated what and how it was going on - now silence ....
with a military transporter, too, silence.

[Amateur]

Work on the aircraft will be carried out by UAC together with the Ministry of Industry and Trade and the Federal Property Management Agency.

In general, aircraft factories are working on the aircraft, and not officials from the offices of the Ministry of Industry and Trade and the Federal Property Management Agency. These only "grandmothers saw" know how.

[Aviator_]

In general, aircraft factories are working on the aircraft,

Work is carried out by design bureaus, factories are producing. And now there are enough parasites at all levels.

[Ryaruav]

About IL-112, complete silence after the disaster, it looks like they put an end to it

[Aviator_]

About IL-112, complete silence after the disaster, it looks like they put an end to it

There will be an engine - there will be a plane. While he is not (dvigun). Such as it was - it is better not to.

[Genry]

112 is waiting for the engine.
Now all the forces of the aviation industry and finances are concentrated on launching the mass production of the MS-21, SSJ-New, Baikal and Il-114 aircraft for the production of engines and the development of new ones (there is also fine-tuning of the engine for the Il-114/112).

[PROXOR]

No. There was news that the next one was built and is already being put on the wing.

[notingem]

Which wing? Did you try it on the chassis first?

[kor1vet1974]

"We built, built and finally built" (c) cartoon "Crocodile Gena"

[Thrifty]

And the Russian Ministry of Defense also planned to spend one billion rubles on finalizing and creating the "newest" super-attack aircraft Il10++++! It's a pity not to put a smiley ....

[alexey_444]

Now they will do it, demand creates supply, there is also little new in the West, developments up to the 90s, plus borrowed developments and specialists from the USSR.

[notingem]

Yeah, in the west, the pioneers of bourgeois aviation are waiting for you. There are no avionics engines, no components, no file assembly. The people of Russia pay

[Alex_ekb]

Well, if it goes into production. We seem to have only ATR-72 on short routes.
At least there is nothing else from the EKB to Samara and Ufa.

[Boniface]

+ from screw, also L-410, as well as jet Embraers - 170th, 190th

[Alex_ekb]

Sorry, I forgot about Embraer, but the L-410 is quite small :)

[vadimtt]

Yes, in general, it is surprising for such a "square" country to have such a frail civilian air fleet. And the most massive niche (in class from An-2 to An-24) is generally almost empty, no "air taxis" and "air buses" for you.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: vadimtt

And the most massive niche (by class from An-2 to An-24) is almost empty, no "air taxis" and "air buses" for you.

And this despite the fact that there are developed aircraft for this niche - slightly modernize (from the problematic - domestic engines), and release.
Be-30, Be-32 (cargo-passenger)

- SU-80 (cargo-passenger)

[Piramidon]

Quote: Bad_gr

And this despite the fact that there are developed aircraft for this niche - slightly modernize (from the problematic - domestic engines), and release.

It's all in the engines. This is the biggest problem. If they had their own engines, many developments would have gone into series long ago.

[Joker62]

Quote: Civil

The general designer of the Il-114 is G.V. Novozhilov. Chief designer of IL-114 - N. D. Talikov

During the development of the aircraft, special attention was paid to reducing the noise level, both on the ground and in the cockpit. For this purpose, six-bladed low-noise propellers SV-34 (manufactured by OAO NPP Aerosila) with a system for synchronizing their rotation in frequency and phases were developed. In addition, the gap between the ends of the blades and the fuselage skin has been increased. In the future, it is expected to use a theater with a capacity of about 2800 hp on the aircraft. with.

The Il-114 experimental aircraft performed its first flight on March 29, 1990.

Thanks to the USSR for our new developments. 32 years old and soon to be in service.

In fact, this car, like the Il-114, is positioned at TAPO (Tashkent Aircraft Plant), which rested in Bose. The Uzbek authorities themselves did not want to invest in the development of this plant. In addition to this machine, the IL-76 was also produced. And this plant ceased to exist.
There are a lot of obsolete AN-24 and An-26 machines in Russia. They worked out their resources many times over, just our aircraft technicians supported them as best they could for operation. But alas, it is not infinite, and everything has its limits.
Now, the current government is trying to fill the niche of the IL-114. This car is good, both in terms of layout and resources. And everything rests on the engines. Previously, they received motors from Ukraine, from Motor Sych. After the conflict in 2014, the engine mounts for the Il-114 stopped, forcing Russian aircraft manufacturers to look for a replacement.
Designing and building a new engine is very hard, long and tedious. And it all comes down to funding. And another misfortune is sabotage by the oligarchs, who own boiler packages over a number of important enterprises of Russian factories.
Until the oligarchs are pinned down and nationalized in favor of the state, there will be no breakthrough.
In addition, it is also necessary to remove mediocre "effective" managers in white collars from enterprises. These are simply "parasites", they often slow down, otherwise they simply lead to the bankruptcy of the plant itself.
This is my personal opinion, I myself am an aircraft builder, and have been working for almost 35 years, and still in the ranks!
I wish you a great flight!

[Rriv]

Quote: Joker62

Previously, they received motors from Ukraine, from "Motor Sych"

Canadian.

[iouris]

"Perspective"? retrospective. Thanks to the Russian government for the retrospective. Back to the Future!
And what is there in the "domestic auto industry"? We know what boys and girls are made of. And what are "domestic cars" made of?

[Joker62]

Quote: RRiv

Quote: Joker62

Previously, they received motors from Ukraine, from "Motor Sych"

Canadian.

Perhaps I am not arguing with you. I just do not have time to keep track of information on aviation and space systems.

[Smirnov Sergey]

It is not clear what the money was for. Already given for certification and testing. Maybe the decision to abandon the version of the engine shared with the IL-112 and return to the TV7-117cm as a more mature, albeit slightly less powerful?

[Joker62]

Quote: Romanenko

Somewhere in the early 90s, I was on a business trip in the North and was waiting for the weather at the airport, got into a conversation with the pilots, it turned out they were just from the new Il-114, the then version.
Frankly, that crew was not enthusiastic about the new aircraft, something can of course be attributed to novelty and unusualness, but they frankly missed the retired IL-14, they said that it had a better view from the cockpit and the engines picked up faster, although, of course, the TVD is not afraid of frost and launching on the 114th is easier.
In general, they then evaluated the new car for a C-plus, but of course with a discount on novelty, they say they will finalize and finish it ....
I hope that all the same brought and finalized.

That's right, the car that was built in TAPO had a number of shortcomings, but alas, the TAPO management did practically nothing to improve this car, because. by this time, there was practically no Union, and all technological and design chains were broken.
Now, at this moment, thanks to digital technology, we have managed to digitize this IL-114, but this is a different car!
A lot of work has been done, both in terms of resources and so in terms of the layout of aggregate systems. If earlier they controlled with a Strauss control system, now they have made an electro-hydraulic system, which improved the control of the glider in flight.
They did a lot of things there, the only thing left is the engines.

[notingem]

You didn’t do anything. And you don’t need this car. You need money from putting it on the wing.

[senima56]

"But so far everything is at the level of talk." - That says it all! Too much chatter and too little sense! Where is the plane?!

[Zaurbek]

They wrote that this is money for the serial production "as is" of IL114 with TV3-117st in an unforced mode. And il112 on the foot and for him a more powerful TVD is more critical.

[Egeny]

Passenger aircraft Il-114 will be finalized

And rightly so: aerodynamics worked out back in the 90s, good performance characteristics, so why not refine it.
I flew it as a child.

[Egeny]

Quote: senima56

Where is the plane?!

don't worry - they'll pick up the pieces. Everything is better than a piece of shit with imported engines and a joystick instead of a steering wheel. SSJ 100 burned down in Sheremetyevo, people died.

[Egeny]

Quote: iouris

what are "domestic cars" made of

I read that "Muscovite" is from Chinese crap.

[Egeny]

Quote: RRiv

Canadian.

nope, we got Canadian gas turbines, now we will order all the rubbish in China. This is what I like about Chinese zhouenlai, linbiao and xingjaoping, because they developed their economy and industry, and did not destroy it like we do. It was our “redhead” who told everyone that we would buy everything ... But no, not everything.

[bath]

from now on we will order all the rubbish in China

Trust me, we Chinese are actually more than willing to cancel your order with you and tell you not to come back next time.

[Bad_gr]

Quote from: wanna

from now on we will order all the rubbish in China

Trust me, we Chinese are actually more than willing to cancel your order with you and tell you so you don't come back next time.

And so it goes to this. If you had quality products, they would take them from you, and if the products are crap, then ours have to develop our own, which is good.