Israeli TV channel: Russia will supply Iran with two squadrons of Su-35 multirole fighters

Iran will receive two squadrons of multifunctional Russian Su-35 fighters, the delivery of aircraft will take place in the near future. This is reported by the Israeli press, citing intelligence sources.

According to the Israeli TV channel "i24news", in the near future Russia will start supplying Su-35 fighters to Iran, in total Tehran will receive 24 aircraft. In addition, Russia will allegedly supply the Iranians with air defense systems, which are not named. With planes lighter, Iran will get fighter jets originally intended for Egypt, which Cairo abandoned under pressure from the US. Since the export version of the fighters had already been produced, it was decided to deliver them to Iran.

According to Western intelligence, in response to the supply of fighter jets, Iran will supply Russia Drones type Shahed-136/131. In general, they said in Kyiv that Russia should receive more than a thousand drones-kamikaze.

It is worth noting that talks about the supply of the Su-35 to Iran have been going on for quite a long time. Tehran said that they were buying planes, and not exchanging them for drones. In September of this year, the commander of the Iranian Air Force, Brigadier General Hamid Vahedi, said that the issue of purchasing aircraft is on the agenda, but a final decision has not yet been made.

According to Western experts, it is the Su-35 that is the only fighter capable of fighting the American F-35s in service with the Israeli Air Force. Therefore, now on the agenda of the Iranian Air Force is the purchase of the Su-35, and not the Su-30SM, which are much cheaper.

In early August, it was reported that Tehran allegedly signed a contract for Russian Su-35s back in July during a visit to Iran by Russian President Vladimir Putin. Then there was evidence that Russia had exchanged with Iran according to the scheme: "fighters for drones." But there were no confirmations or denials from either Moscow or Tehran.

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[coinsam]

And this is very good! Iran will feel much more confident, and the States and Europe will have a new sore spot.

[Nexcom]

yes, their popabol is somehow of little interest ....

[smart ass]

If Iran strengthens its air defense and fighter aircraft, the states do not go there

[stankow]

Israel will have pain, unfortunately. Because he did not support sanctions against Russia. But you can’t please everyone, a tangle of interests. And Russia is at war, you need to understand it.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: stankow

Israel will have pain, unfortunately. Because he did not support the sanctions.

It won't, I promise.

[Pessimist22]

We still need to supply them with 400 so that the Jews and the Yankees are more happy.

[Doccor18]

If this is true, then the layouts may change somewhat ...

In addition, Russia will allegedly supply the Iranians with air defense systems.

If Triumphs and Shells, then this will seriously change the situation.

[Trapp1st]

If Triumphs and Shells, then this will seriously change the situation.

Poplars, Yarsy will seriously change the situation. Very seriously.

[rotmistr60]

It is the Su-35 that is the only fighter capable of fighting the American F-35s in service with the Israeli Air Force.

Therefore, the excitement of Israel and its desire to communicate this information to "the whole world" is understandable. And in terms of air defense means, it is possible to return to the deal on the S-400, which at one time had to be postponed.

[stankow]

Netanyahu paved the way to the Kremlin. Already on the Immortal regiment waved the flag. And got the delivery delayed.

[Architect]

It’s not enough to put, you still need to be able to competently manage such equipment.
And it will turn out like with a downed passenger plane in the year 20.

[solar]

Israel's reaction to this message is interesting.

[And Us Rat]

Quote from solar

Israel's reaction to this message is interesting.

And she is not. I went through the Hebrew-language media, found only a couple of articles on this topic on secondary resources, with a rather indifferent narrative, like a weather forecast, and the mainstream media did not even mention anything like that.
And objectively speaking, I don’t think that Israel is very worried about these 24 aircraft, such a scenario (as well as the delivery of the S-400) was expected a decade ago, and they have long prepared for this. The IDF does not wait until the last minute, any potential threats are considered proactively, and countermeasures are developed in advance in order to be ready to solve problems in case of changing conditions.
This delivery will not entail any significant change in the balance of forces. Not those numbers. Now, if it were a batch of 240 aircraft, with a dozen tankers, AWACS, modern electronic warfare systems, training of pilots, staff officers and strategic planners, corresponding to the Israeli level ...
No, without radically significant SYSTEMIC improvements to the Iranian Armed Forces, this will not bring results.

[Zaurbek]

Israel's reaction is always there. But the Su35S does not threaten Israel and its territory ... There are no common borders with Iran and the Israeli Air Force and Air Defense at another level. But the Su35S dramatically increases the cost of Air Force (Israel or the United States) strikes on Iranian territory and dramatically raises Iran's air defense capabilities. By the way, it was Iran that was supplied with American Phoenix missiles (the prototype of our long-range missiles). In the Russian Federation, they are integrated into the Su35S. Iran can integrate its own. And then air operations against Iran (and this requires tankers and AWACS) will be difficult to implement

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Zaurbek

sharply raises Iran's air defense capabilities

Sharply - loudly said, rather a little. Not those quantities. No matter how good the aircraft is, effective use requires a SYSTEM into which this aircraft will be integrated. In the meantime, this system in Iran is an order of magnitude weaker, sporadic amplifications by individual instruments do not particularly affect the overall "temperature in the hospital".

Quote: Zaurbek

And then air operations against Iran (and this requires tankers and AWACS) will be difficult to implement.

Will not. It will only affect the preparation of tactical plans. One in the field is not a warrior, even if there are 24 of them. And taking into account the fact that their resource will be protected, the flight of pilots will not be large, 40 percent will be grounded (at best), on routine maintenance ...
Rather, in the event of a serious batch, they will overtake them to Pakistan, so as not to lose how much in vain, like Iraq at one time. Only Israel alone has a tanker arm that allows you to simultaneously project an aviation group of 2000+ fighters with AWACS, RTR / EW aircraft, and an evacuation unit for 3000-50 km. In some of the exercises in recent years, near Gibraltar, the IDF Air Force set up an air carousel with similar forces, for 48-72 hours, to "test the pen." And the Yankees have a similar opportunity an order of magnitude higher, given their hub in Qatar and the amount of equipment in general.

[Zaurbek]

This is the start of construction. And there are no loyal countries to Israel nearby. And no one will allow you to be based in Pakistan or Iraq or Syria. At best, Turkey and Azerbaijan. And flying up without support nearby is flying at high altitude. And the option of "peaceful flight in the territories of neighboring countries" will not work. And besides everything, there is a brsd, the accuracy of which in a conventional design already allows you to get into a separate place of a separate industrial enterprise. Therefore, a system in which there is both air defense and OTRK and ballistic missiles of different ranges that will fly to airfields, headquarters, factories, desalination plants (these are no longer civilian objects and not weapons of mass destruction) is being created in stages.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Zaurbek

This is the start of construction.

Until this construction overtakes (or at least catches up with) the pace of Israeli construction, the gap in potentials will only continue to widen. Today, if we give a mathematical analogy, while Iran is strengthening by 3 conditional points, Israel has time to strengthen by 6, and this gap is growing.

Quote: Zaurbek

And there are no loyal countries to Israel nearby.

Azerbaijan. The main supplier of oil for Israel, a major client of the Israeli military-industrial complex, and turns a blind eye to the work of the Israeli intelligence community from its territory. Aliyev does not need a too strong Islamic neighbor in the Caspian.

Quote: Zaurbek

Therefore, a system in which there is both air defense and OTRK and ballistic missiles of different ranges that will fly to airfields, headquarters, factories, desalination plants

About 1-2% of the Iranian arsenal reaches from Iran itself to the territory of Israel, only a couple of hundred missiles, which are taken into account in the current use of the missile defense system in the IDF.
In order to seriously trouble Israel, Iran needs a closer foothold, in Syria, for example, which is why they have been trying for a decade to drag their less long-range arsenal there and prepare positions for a massive strike on Israel. And that is why Israel is stopping these attempts by bombing Iranian convoys and missile depots in Syria.
But Iran’s air defense is not yet up to par, technologically, the recently vaunted Bavar-373, which tried to shoot at Israeli aircraft in Syria, was blinded tightly and shot like a duck in a shooting range.

[Zaurbek]

Until this construction overtakes (or at least catches up with) the pace of Israeli construction, the gap in potentials will only continue to widen. Today, if we give a mathematical analogy, while Iran is strengthening by 3 conditional points, Israel has time to strengthen by 6, and this gap is growing.


My friend :
1. The tasks of attacking Israel and protecting the skies of Iran are tasks of different complexity. Su35S is quite enough for this. It is necessary to supplement AWACS and air defense.
2. BR is the cheapest way to accurately deliver the maximum number of warheads to Israel. With a high degree of probability of an Israeli missile defense breakthrough. Planning blocks for BR will immediately follow (this is a reality in the Russian Federation and China and the future of Iran). And this complicates missile defense by 10-100 times.
3. Israel, with all its technological advantage, is a small country with a developed industry (including a dangerous one). And after massive strikes, the recovery potential will be small. The use of nuclear weapons by Israel will lead to retaliatory use (This reality is getting closer every year)

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Zaurbek

Su35S is quite enough for this.

Not in these quantities, and not with Iran's existing military system.

Quote: Zaurbek

It is necessary to supplement AWACS and air defense.

And who will give them AWACS? The RF A-100 cannot roam for more than a decade, and it’s ridiculous to talk about exports in the foreseeable future, and it’s ridiculous to saturate its own VKS. And the PRC does not need this, they will not compromise their relations with Israel. And no one else.

Quote: Zaurbek

BR is the cheapest way to accurately deliver the maximum number of warheads to Israel.

Only bad luck. BR that can fly to Israel from Iran cost money, a lot of money, and are assembled piece by piece. Iran has at most a couple of hundred of these, over a decade of production 24/7. And Israel's missile defense systems, these couple of hundred, are just designed to intercept, and with a margin. Even if a dozen flies, this is a pellet for an elephant, in 1991 50+ flew in from Iraq and nothing.

Quote: Zaurbek

With a high degree of probability of an Israeli missile defense breakthrough.

How??? Hats? To do this, they need to use a trifle, of which they really have tens of thousands. But this little thing must first be concentrated in the right quantities where it will fly from. But "there" they cannot concentrate anything, because bombs with inscriptions in Hebrew fall from above, and this very concentration is nipped in the bud.

Quote: Zaurbek

Planning units for BR will immediately follow (this is a reality in the Russian Federation and China and the future of Iran)

By the time the IRI has plunging blocks, Israel will long ago have a missile defense system capable of intercepting them.

Quote: Zaurbek

And this complicates missile defense by 10-100 times.

Existing PRO. But on the Arrow-4 approach, which began to be developed 5 years ago, just to intercept hypersonic missiles and these same gliders. As soon as they started talking about them at all, PREVENTIVELY.

Quote: Zaurbek

And after massive blows

Which are not physically feasible in the foreseeable future, from the word at all.

Quote: Zaurbek

recovery potential will be small

You seem to have difficulties with scaling, in order to really destroy the potential for the restoration of Israel, you need a dozen nuclear strikes of 100+ kilotons or hundreds of thousands conventional missiles. in 2006, several THOUSAND missiles fell on Haifa and the north of the country in a month, of which more than a thousand with warheads of 100+ kg. It slightly scratched the economy, nothing more.

Quote: Zaurbek

The use of nuclear weapons by Israel will lead to retaliatory use

Israeli nuclear weapons for deterrence and guaranteed retaliation, not attack. So it's fantasy.

[stankow]

We hope there will be no real batch, but the threat of destroying Iranian reactors and centrifuges will decrease dramatically. That will allow Iran to increase enrichment. And that's bad for Israel.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: stankow

the threat of destruction of Iranian reactors and centrifuges will decrease sharply

It will not decrease, I already explained why. Outside of an appropriate level system, these 24 aircraft are a statistical error. There are 1001 ways to neutralize them in the current general level of the Iranian Armed Forces. Though in the air, even on the ground, even in cyberspace.

Quote: stankow

That will allow Iran to increase enrichment.

For Israel, this is an existential issue, so there can be no compromises in principle. When it comes to the life of the population of the entire country, in the literal sense of the word, the price of the issue no longer plays any role at all.

[Trapp1st]

corresponding to the Israeli level ...

After the death of the Third Reich, only Israel and Ukraine have the corresponding level.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Trapp1st

After the death of the Third Reich

You were left without living idols, Bandera.

[dummy]

It is high time to improve allied ties with Iran. Unlike the economy, our political goals are much closer with Iran than even with Turkey or China.

[Zaurbek]

They can sell UAVs for rubles and buy Su35 for rubles ...... The question is different - for 24 pieces of Su35S you can buy a lot of things in Iran!

[klara]

And where did YOUR aviation go? We do not have our own aircraft, but we supply abroad under PRIVATE contracts. For such a shooting

[Scharnhorst]

Changing "Orientation" in any sense is painful. After the operation of the F-14A, the Persians are eyeing the weapons of the non-Western camp. There is no special trust, because the Russian Federation carried out anti-Iranian sanctions

[storm]

Quote: rotmistr60

it is possible a return to the S-400 deal, which had to be postponed at the time.

It was a bilateral contract, with an advance payment, which Medvedev cowardly canceled, to be honest .....

[storm]

Quote: Zaurbek

for 24 pieces of Su35S you can buy a lot of things in Iran!

The market value of the Su-35 is about $ 100 million, for the VKS 1,5 billion rubles, for export it should turn out about 3 billion rubles per aircraft, count what you can buy for $ 2,5 billion or 70 billion rubles.

[the same doctor]

It would be nice to put fighters with pilots in exchange for a couple of divisions on the Ukrainian front. With an unlimited number of drones and the absence of Putin's bans, they will reach Kyiv in a week.

[flicker]

Iran does not have nuclear weapons, but if necessary, it will use them.

[Zaurbek]

Every year the probability increases, and then the number will increase.

[Iris]

Does Israel have it? It looks like they are bluffing. Who can tell, by the way, how many times the IAEA was admitted to Dimona? The correct answer is never!

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Kasatik

It looks like they are bluffing.

The Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation believes that it is not, like a lot of other serious organizations.

Quote: Kasatik

how many times has the IAEA been admitted to Dimona?

And on what basis?

Quote: Kasatik

The correct answer is never!

Exactly. Iran has signed and ratified the NPT, which implies the abandonment of military nuclear programs in exchange for access to peaceful nuclear technologies.
Without this agreement, Iran would not have received a nuclear power plant in Bushehr from the Russian Federation, because the Russian Federation is also in the NPT. But Iran cheated, tried "to eat the fish and not break the rectum," for which its other members of the NPT are punished, because it's not good to rat.
Israel (and also India and Pakistan) did not sign this agreement at all initially, did not receive nishtyaks attached to the signature from anyone, and therefore has the right to send everyone to the forest.