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Russia has modified Krasnopol high-precision projectiles for air carriers

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Russia has modified Krasnopol high-precision projectiles for air carriers

Russian designers have presented the latest modification of the Krasnopol high-precision artillery projectile, which makes it possible to use it from air carriers.


The developers managed to achieve a high degree of reliability, as well as the simplicity of the design of a new modification of a precision-guided munition. In addition, a new modification can be stored in warehouses for a long time without losing its combat capability.

The high-precision artillery projectile of the Krasnopol system has a high-explosive fragmentation action, and is also equipped with a laser target designator-rangefinder, which ensures accurate aiming at the selected target.

The 152 mm caliber ammunition is intended for use by all types of artillery systems, including the latest howitzers. The high-precision projectile is capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 20 km, the mass of its warhead is 8 kg. The laser target designator can lock on three targets at the same time.

In the latest modification of the Krasnopol-M2 projectile, the caliber has been increased to 155 mm, the maximum firing range has also been increased to 26 km, and the accuracy necessary to hit small targets has been increased.

The ammunition can be used in all weather conditions, including high cloud cover and strong winds.
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  1. break_beats
    break_beats 24 December 2022 22: 09
    +16
    The special military operation will significantly and positively influence the development of the Russian Armed Forces. Already affects and this fact cannot be denied good
    1. poquello
      poquello 24 December 2022 22: 14
      +36
      Quote from breakin_beats
      The special military operation will significantly and positively influence the development of the Russian Armed Forces. Already affects and this fact cannot be denied good

      I just didn’t understand a damn thing about 155mm
      "In the latest modification of the Krasnopol-M2 projectile, the caliber has been increased to 155 mm"
      1. Leshak
        Leshak 24 December 2022 22: 24
        +8
        Perhaps this caliber was created specifically for aviation use (this is just my guess).
        1. poquello
          poquello 25 December 2022 01: 45
          +5
          Quote: Leshak
          Perhaps this caliber was created specifically for aviation use (this is just my guess).

          +3 for flying? yep, that's unbelievable
          1. tranquil
            tranquil 25 December 2022 04: 48
            +1
            Why is it incredible? What are the reasons?
            1. poquello
              poquello 25 December 2022 11: 16
              +5
              Quote: tranquil
              Why is it incredible? What are the reasons?

              I can’t assume that the designers didn’t have enough 3mm to teach the projectile to launch from an aircraft, but for export lines to work sometimes for the army, it’s possible
          2. Sith
            Sith 26 December 2022 18: 57
            +1
            Additional substances for dispersing the projectile when starting from a winged carrier ... or some kind of solid fuel accelerator
        2. TIR
          TIR 25 December 2022 08: 10
          +24
          Why use an artillery shell in aviation? This is complete bullshit. Then it would be easier to use from Cornet. There requirements and price are lower. Isn't it too bold to use electronics that must withstand the loads of a shot from the barrel where this projectile will be dropped in free fall. It would be better in the usual version to increase production for artillery
          1. poquello
            poquello 25 December 2022 11: 19
            +1
            Quote: TIR
            Why use an artillery shell in aviation? This is complete bullshit. Then it would be easier to use from Cornet. There requirements and price are lower. Isn't it too bold to use electronics that must withstand the loads of a shot from the barrel where this projectile will be dropped in free fall.

            the cornet has a different pointing
            1. TIR
              TIR 25 December 2022 13: 05
              +1
              On the UAV, the Cornet will get up easier. And cheaper. And for aviation it is better to create your own system. With some share of details from land variants. Moreover, what for the extra weight to carry, which is available in the reinforced building of Krasnopol. Brad of course the whole thing is a decision
              1. poquello
                poquello 25 December 2022 15: 34
                0
                Quote: poquello
                the cornet has a different pointing

                Quote: TIR
                On the UAV Cornet will get up easier

                it seems that you don’t care what they write in response to you
          2. 28st region
            28st region 25 December 2022 13: 16
            +7
            Yes, the article is more than incomprehensible. Just one phrase
            Russian designers have presented the latest modification of the Krasnopol high-precision artillery projectile, which makes it possible to use it from air carriers.

            The rest is just verbal fluff.
            1. YOUR
              YOUR 25 December 2022 14: 11
              +5
              It's not really clear what the article is about.
              Russian designers have presented the latest modification of the Krasnopol high-precision artillery projectile, which makes it possible to use it from air carriers.

              What does this even mean? That they made a planning aerial bomb from Krasnopol or something else. If something else, then what?
              1. iouris
                iouris 25 December 2022 16: 19
                +2
                It's true. How about this:
                ... also the maximum firing range has increased to 26 km has a caliber of 155 mm

                Writers pee and readers read.
              2. Kuziming
                Kuziming 26 December 2022 11: 41
                0
                Flying howitzer?
            2. TIR
              TIR 25 December 2022 14: 56
              +3
              Either the journalists did not understand something, or effective managers create the appearance of their work. If this is true, and they want to use Krasnopol as an aerial bomb, then those who decided to promote this should be fired. How incompetent. Or plant. Already for frank sabotage and disruption of the production of artillery shells. Or do we have that Krasnopol is already used more often than conventional shells?
              1. 28st region
                28st region 25 December 2022 15: 15
                +1
                Let's hope that the journalists heard the ringing but do not know where it is
                Here's what I dug up
                Russian specialists have created a modification of the Krasnopol corrected artillery ammunition, which is planned to be used on air carriers. This was announced by the head of the "Design Bureau of Instrumentation named after Academician Shipunov" Semyon Pogorelsky in the program "God of War. Fire Tamers” on the First Channel.

                “The basis is Krasnopol, there is a modification firing mortars. And there is a modification that shoots from air carriers, ”he explained.


                Those. it looks like they made a planning bomb with a seeker from Krasnopol. It's hard to explain otherwise
                Everywhere the same thing i.e. Pogorelsky said something and the whole world began to reprint only his words, only the one who managed to write first.
                1. Barberry25
                  Barberry25 26 December 2022 11: 57
                  0
                  By the way, judging by what they said in the design bureau, we are not talking specifically about using the projectile itself, since they mention that there is a version for the mortar, i.e. UAS Gran, but this is still a mine, so most likely we are talking about the very principle and technology, I won’t be surprised that this is real KAB-20
            3. Barberry25
              Barberry25 25 December 2022 17: 01
              0
              here, the information is about zero, if they just took the UAS and hung it under a plane or UAV, then the question arises .. why? It’s one thing to take the principle and technology of guidance, but another thing is to hang a full-fledged projectile, it weighs a good 35-40 kilos without a powder accelerator approximately, The same Cab-20 will be more interesting .. well, or to the extreme, if in a helicopter version, then take heavy NARs and attach laser guidance to them ..
        3. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 25 December 2022 11: 13
          +1
          Quote: Leshak
          this caliber was created specifically for aviation use

          What about fig? An aerial bomb has already been made from the 120-mm Gran mortar mine ... in principle, an aerial bomb can also be made based on the Krasnopol 152-mm artillery projectile! (GOS? Already there! There is a tail for stabilization! What else do you need? Add this "more" according to "taste and need" ... and into battle!) There is no need to increase the caliber to make a bonbu! Moreover, the 155-mm artillery shell "in Krasnopol" has already been made and, quite a long time ago! By the way, the creation of a 155-mm projectile based on the 152-mm "Krasnopol" is almost tantamount to the development of a new ammunition! That is, a matter that requires time, funding, engineering resources!
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 25 December 2022 17: 05
            -1
            it’s more of a question of expediency ... who will act as the carrier? aircraft? Well, that means you need to install either an accelerator or "wings" so that such ammunition is planned at least 10-15 km, it’s easier to remake NARs for this, especially since there is an S-25L
        4. Barberry25
          Barberry25 25 December 2022 16: 57
          +2
          this author was taken from the wiki .. Krasnopol is produced both in caliber 152 mm, for us and China, for example, and in 155 mm, for India, for example
      2. kapitan92
        kapitan92 24 December 2022 22: 25
        +18
        Quote: poquello
        I just didn’t understand a damn thing about 155mm

        hi
        The author of the article stated this from the "bay of floundering."
        The latest modification of the Krasnopol-M2 projectile has a caliber of 155 mm, a longer firing range (26 km), and the accuracy of hitting small targets has also been improved. In reality, it is put on stream and even delivered overseas. Made for export in one word.
        1. poquello
          poquello 25 December 2022 01: 47
          +5
          Quote: kapitan92
          Made for export in one word

          yes, here it is, we have MSA in full stamping and coalition 152
        2. Xenofont
          Xenofont 25 December 2022 09: 05
          +7
          Almost everything stated in the note gives insanity, implicated in incompetence! From a projectile-planning bomb? Or will they put a 76mm barrel on the IL 155 and there will be a Gunship?
          1. Sergey3
            Sergey3 25 December 2022 10: 32
            +2
            From a projectile-planning bomb?

            Most likely they attached a primitive upper stage from some kind of rocket. The advantage here is that they saved a lot of time (several years) for the development and testing of a new guidance unit, using an existing serial one. The reason for such creativity is the bureaucratic system, tightly choking all new developments in the bud.
            1. Xenofont
              Xenofont 25 December 2022 10: 58
              +2
              But you must admit, because the projectile itself is designed for high loads when fired, and hence the corresponding thickness of the body and its weight! Not rational, because a missile warhead with the same amount of explosives is much lighter.
            2. Barberry25
              Barberry25 25 December 2022 17: 08
              -2
              well, if it was "almost a rocket" that was made, then it still all right, you can do a lot of shells, hang under that ka-52 / mi-28 and instead of pitching up at a distance of 10 km, make launches and direct from the UAV
        3. Oleg Ogorod
          Oleg Ogorod 25 December 2022 16: 04
          0
          That's just the point, we don't have a caliber 155. Why do we need a red field under 155? For Ukrainians for export? This is complete trash, northern fluffy.
          It's just that now there are a lot of projects to quickly cut the loot and bury before the collapse. As many people think. Need to hang. For all to see. As they always did.
          1. Vrotkompot
            Vrotkompot 26 December 2022 19: 26
            -1
            To an aircraft with a projectile on a suspension, what difference does it make what caliber 152 or 155 it is?
      3. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 December 2022 22: 58
        +4

        Either this projectile is for export or a surprise 155 mm gun awaits us. On the Kalashnikov website it is clearly written there that it is only for 155 mm caliber artillery systems.
        1. Plate
          Plate 24 December 2022 23: 06
          +14
          Rather for export. I see no reason to switch from 152 mm to 155. As if the difference is too small to start the trouble with non-standard barrels for us.
          1. nepunamemuk
            nepunamemuk 25 December 2022 01: 25
            +6
            if only the old worn-out trunks at 152 are bored at 155 wassat
            1. Sergey3
              Sergey3 25 December 2022 10: 48
              +5
              You don't even need to grind them! The difference there is not 3 mm, but much less. It's just that in Russia and in NATO the caliber of guns is measured differently. In Russia along "A", in the west along "B"
              , depth of cut 1,3 mm, exact value A 152,4 mm and B 154,3 mm
        2. poquello
          poquello 25 December 2022 01: 50
          +2
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Either this projectile is for export or we are in for a surprise 155 mm gun

          probably the same export in the article was presented as something
        3. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 25 December 2022 07: 06
          +3
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Either this projectile is for export or we are in for a surprise 155 mm gun. On the Kalashnikov website it is clearly written there that it is only for 155 mm caliber artillery systems

          I suspect that a decision has been made not to export these shells. So that they don’t fly on our heads. And put some kind of plumage on these shells and use it from heavy UAVs. This is the only way to understand this note.
        4. fiv
          fiv 25 December 2022 12: 22
          +1
          Apparently, there is a manufactured stock of 155-mm ammunition, there is a technological chain for manufacturing. In connection with the sanctions, the equipment is worth it. The designers slightly worked on both ammunition and production. Now the warehouse stocks will go into action, and the equipment will not stand idle. There will be no new guns, there will be ammunition for aviation. Everyone is fine. Except for the hoodlums. And this is good.
        5. Oleg Ogorod
          Oleg Ogorod 25 December 2022 16: 10
          0
          Kalushnikov is a dough cutting project. Private company. The Kalashnikov Concern is now owned by the former Deputy Minister of Transport, he was one for several months, earlier he was Dvorkovich's assistant for a year or two, and earlier a small lawyer in small firms. To a certain Alan Lushnikov. Do you feel career growth? Gazprom, all dreams are forgotten, from an ordinary lawyer to an oligarch of the military-industrial complex in a few quick years.
      4. Stepan S
        Stepan S 24 December 2022 23: 37
        0
        modification for 155 mm air carriers, why only this, maybe with an eye to export to countries with a NATO caliber
        1. Foundling
          Foundling 24 December 2022 23: 48
          +2
          Right! We need to help our partners. They run out of shells for Ukraine
        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 25 December 2022 00: 16
          +4
          Everything was sorted out. The Kalashnikov Krasnopoli were the basis, they remained as they were.
      5. midivan
        midivan 25 December 2022 00: 01
        0
        Quote: poquello
        Quote from breakin_beats
        The special military operation will significantly and positively influence the development of the Russian Armed Forces. Already affects and this fact cannot be denied good

        I just didn’t understand a damn thing about 155mm
        "In the latest modification of the Krasnopol-M2 projectile, the caliber has been increased to 155 mm"

        The 152 mm caliber ammunition is intended for use by all types of artillery systems, including the latest howitzers. High-precision ..... Further increased to 155, or rather, they began to manufacture for 155mm guns .. request
        1. poquello
          poquello 25 December 2022 11: 24
          0
          Quote: midivan
          Then they increased it to 155, or rather, they began to manufacture for 155mm guns ..

          so when was it
      6. alexmach
        alexmach 25 December 2022 00: 32
        +1
        Uh-huh .. and about the use of an artillery shell by aviation ..
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 25 December 2022 05: 49
          -1
          Quote: alexmach
          Uh-huh .. and about the use of an artillery shell by aviation ..

          Well, Americans can launch bombs from MLRS, and converting shells into bombs is generally an old and proven solution from the Second World War ...
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 25 December 2022 14: 15
            -2
            What will be the range of such a projectile if it is up to 30 km when firing from a cannon? 15 km? 10? And why didn’t the old Soviet URs work at such a range? And is it worth it to spend an expensive guided missile at all? Wouldn't a planning bomb be preferable for aviation, but with other guidance mechanisms?
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 25 December 2022 14: 37
              0
              Why such questions? I'm not a specialist. I just wrote that shells as bombs are far from new.
              But I'll try to write.
              Quote: alexmach
              What will be the range of such a projectile if it is up to 30 km when firing from a cannon?

              Yes, at least 5! If the accuracy of the hit is ensured, then from pitching to ultra-small, this will dramatically increase the effectiveness of bombing while dramatically reducing the risk to the carrier. But this is for the LBS, otherwise the plane will deliver such a projectile for 500 km.
              Quote: alexmach
              And why didn’t the old Soviet URs work at such a range?
              What missiles, explain. As far as I know, old missiles required either illumination or target contrast.


              Quote: alexmach
              And is it worth it to spend an expensive guided missile at all?
              Wow, do you seriously imagine that a projectile is more expensive than a rocket? However...

              Quote: alexmach
              Wouldn't a planning bomb be preferable for aviation, but with other guidance mechanisms?
              Maybe it will, or maybe not, but the Aerospace Forces definitely don’t have 50-kg bombs with increased accuracy, and in general it seems to be tense with such bombs.
              P.S. Krasnopol has a modification of the Excalibur type: precise targeting by coordinates.
        2. Eug
          Eug 25 December 2022 09: 33
          0
          That's right ... what, did you attach wings to it? And the principle of guidance is still on the backlight? If so, then first of all it is necessary to redo the principle of guidance ...
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 25 December 2022 17: 13
            0
            what are the problems with the guidance principle? what about the glonass, what about the laser is now quite effective, here the question is in principle and the launch range ... accelerator, wings for planning, or both, and how many km? 5/10/50 km? in principle, planes are constantly hanging in the air, if they have bombs with a range of 50 km, then there will be nothing wrong with that, but on the contrary .. details are needed
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        1. Konnick
          Konnick 25 December 2022 07: 18
          +6
          And how do you understand how to put a 155 mm howitzer on an air carrier?

          Just do not ask the author of the article, or rather, he is not the author, but simply copied and pasted from somewhere and stuck here to confuse his head.
      8. Argon
        Argon 25 December 2022 09: 41
        0
        If the caliber is increased, then probably the name should also be changed ?!
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      10. Eroma
        Eroma 25 December 2022 11: 13
        +1
        For export modification in caliber 155mm! Even with the Victory in the NWO, not everything is clear with us, but we are already dreaming of lucrative contracts! fool
        Air-based, I still mean for the UAV option what but who will make them? There are not enough of them in the artillery, and UAVs capable of giving them illumination are also in short supply, as I understand it!
        This is a reserve for the future and it is possible in the NWO experimental application is possible and for PR, of course, we are waiting for news about a new achievement in the NWO zone, as the Krasnopol UAV banged soldier
      11. the same doctor
        the same doctor 26 December 2022 08: 43
        -1
        What is there to understand? Export version for NATO caliber. I wonder if they managed to sell some to the West? What? If we deliver gas at record prices to the enemy, then why not trade shells? Prices are record...
      12. Alexey Lantukh
        Alexey Lantukh 26 December 2022 22: 20
        0
        This caliber (155) has long been developed, as they were going to sell for export. So, nothing new. And there are probably 155 howitzers (bought from friends or captured).
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 24 December 2022 23: 10
      -5
      The developers managed to achieve a high degree of reliability, as well as the simplicity of the design of a new modification of a precision-guided munition. In addition, a new modification can be stored in warehouses for a long time without losing its combat capability.

      Shells are needed today, now, and not in warehouses! Well, when will they appear in sufficient quantities for use? Or in the NWO only "foreigners" will be able to single-handedly hit point targets, such as illuminated hotels?
      1. Orange Bigg
        Orange Bigg 24 December 2022 23: 15
        +2
        So it seems like Krasnopol is still in the army. I wonder what range the mortar modification of Krasnopol will have?

        Today, December 24, on the air of the program “God of War. Fire Tamers” on Channel One, the head of the design bureau of the aforementioned KBP, Semyon Pogorelsky, spoke about the development of several modifications of the Krasnopol high-precision artillery projectile for other weapons systems. According to him, now there are "air" and "mortar" versions of the specified ammunition. Thus, Krasnopol became the basis for ammunition that can be fired from mortars and aircraft carriers.

        https://topcor.ru/30443-anonsirovannyj-vozdushnyj-snarjad-krasnopol-pridetsja-rossijskim-vojskam-vesma-kstati.html
        1. alexoff
          alexoff 25 December 2022 02: 48
          +2
          What is this 152 mm mortar? For 120 mm there is a "edge" based on the "whaler", only the tulip is larger. Or did they decide to revive 160 mm mortars from Stalin's times?
    3. Maz
      Maz 26 December 2022 11: 06
      0
      The guys just creatively reworked someone else's article that was published two days earlier.... or rather, completely copied to https://soldat.pro/2022/12/25/v-rossii-modificirovali-vysokotochnye-snaryady-krasnopol-dlya-vozdushnyx -nositelej/ the author is the same, the drawing is the same one to one, why bother? Well done, let's embarrass ourselves. But two days earlier...
      24.12.2022 14:24
      Heading:
      Russian weapons
      High-precision projectile "Krasnopol" modified for air carriers
      Alexey Komolov
      In Russia, a modification of the Krasnopol corrected artillery projectile has been developed for use from air carriers, said the head of the Design Bureau of Instrument Engineering named after Academician A.G. Shipunov Semyon Pogorelsky. https://rg.ru/2022/12/24/vysokotochnyj-snariad-krasnopol-modificirovali-dlia-vozdushnyh-nositelej.html
  2. Sailor
    Sailor 24 December 2022 22: 11
    -1
    Good news. It remains to be hoped that the price will not go off scale, especially now with mass production and an urgent need for troops.
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 December 2022 22: 11
    0
    This is normal practice. In the west, mortar 120mm corr mines are used for UAVs
  4. Sanichsan
    Sanichsan 24 December 2022 22: 14
    +6
    155mm??? and what is our weapon? we have 152, 125, 122 ... or is it already a corrected bomb?
    1. stankow
      stankow 24 December 2022 22: 58
      +4
      For export. India, Algeria, Egypt.
      ...........,.
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 25 December 2022 00: 20
      +2
      This is a mortar mine and a bomb is planned. Rostec muddied it, not Kalashnikov.
  5. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 24 December 2022 22: 15
    0
    I wonder how long it will take to saturate the troops with this model?
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 25 December 2022 00: 44
      +2
      For "air carriers"? What is it like? Can be more?... winked
  6. SSA
    SSA 24 December 2022 22: 22
    +29
    Author! What is this...?

    The projectile does not have a laser target designator-rangefinder, there is a guidance head for REFLECTED radiation!

    And the target designator-rangefinder is installed on the guidance means.

    How can a projectile accompany (!) three (?!) targets? Does it crumble in the air into homing elements?
    Caliber 155 was never used in the RF Armed Forces. Why such a projectile? What will he give?
    1. DO
      DO 24 December 2022 22: 36
      +21
      SSA, the author of this article is a banal troll.
      Along the way, he checks VO commentators for not even education and qualifications, but for the elementary ability to think critically. Yes, just think :)
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 24 December 2022 23: 02
      +3
      Yeah ... Laser rangefinder on an artillery shell! belay
    3. newtc7
      newtc7 24 December 2022 23: 29
      +8
      This is generally an article like a test for idiocy for some people. Such nonsense is written that you don’t understand, maybe today is the first of April
    4. Georgy Sviridov_2
      Georgy Sviridov_2 25 December 2022 00: 13
      +5
      155 Krasnopole was invented a long time ago, it is exported. Perhaps, in addition, they can be delivered to the front for use in trophy systems, at least as an advertisement.
      But in general, the article is a curve. The author mixed new systems for our army and export samples.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 25 December 2022 01: 47
        +3
        Quote: Georgy Sviridov_2
        crooked article. The author mixed new systems for our army and export samples

        Approximately as in 1980 the instructor of the Myxocran District Committee spoke with political information in the village of Malaya Zakhlyupanka:
        The USSR sent troops into Afghanistan, expelled the Shah of Iran from there, and exiled him to Gorky. There, his leg was cut off, and for this he is boycotting the Moscow Olympics.
        lol
  7. Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 24 December 2022 22: 22
    +23
    Some kind of nonsense ...
    Question. How can an artillery shell be used from "air carriers"?
    Correct answer. No way.
    More like an export version for the NATO caliber.
    It's like the Russian Federation, before Bulgaria joined NATO, donated 200 pieces to it. T-72 tanks and other weapons, including Tunguska air defense systems, to equip a tank division.
    Now we will sell corrected ammunition to everyone, and they will be resold to the Americans for delivery to Ukraine. Genius idea...
    1. stankow
      stankow 24 December 2022 23: 01
      +2
      Bulgaria did not receive this. Do you mean Serbia?
    2. Georgy Sviridov_2
      Georgy Sviridov_2 25 December 2022 00: 17
      +1
      India and, it seems, Azerbaijan bought such shells with pleasure. We also produced Msta-S for export in 155mm, no one bought it, but I assume that they will sell it as a single system.
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 December 2022 00: 29
      0
      Quote: Captain Pushkin
      Question. How can an artillery shell be used from "air carriers"?

      Screw the wings, and leave the control-guidance system from the projectile and there will be a planning adjustable bomb.
  8. Bogalex
    Bogalex 24 December 2022 22: 34
    +20
    Listen, among the administrators of "VO" is there still at least someone who is able to critically perceive the nonsense of correspondents?
    HOW PHYSICALLY IS IT POSSIBLE TO ADAPT "KRASNOPOL" TO AIR CARRIERS???
    Did someone put a 152-mm howitzer on the plane, or what ???
    WHAT FOR Nonsense ???
    1. 1razvgod
      1razvgod 24 December 2022 22: 54
      -5
      The main thing is calmness, an article for readers with hats, hats that are thrown should read something and write laudatory comments and, most importantly, be the first
    2. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 25 December 2022 08: 38
      -1
      Well, the 105-mm mericatos managed to fit into the gunship.
    3. Eug
      Eug 25 December 2022 09: 43
      +2
      I'm racking my brains, but I can't find an answer to your question - except perhaps as a bomb for an UAV. But what's the point? It would be more interesting to have a kit for limiting free-falling bombs, at least in adjustable ones ...
  9. Keer
    Keer 24 December 2022 22: 36
    +2
    It remains to create a cannon IB with a 155 mm gun.
  10. Rustic
    Rustic 24 December 2022 22: 39
    +6
    What kind of nonsense? Do we, and not only us, have 155mm aircraft guns? fool
    1. Pharmacist
      Pharmacist 24 December 2022 23: 15
      +9
      Yeah, I also dreamed about the upcoming attack aircraft with a pair of 155 mm guns under the wings! laughing I'll sleep happily...
      1. Rustic
        Rustic 24 December 2022 23: 27
        +8
        Yeah, I also dreamed about the upcoming attack aircraft with a pair of 155 mm guns under the wings! laughing
        You just need to put them upside down. By the fact that the tactics of application will be as follows: Such an attack aircraft flies quietly, saw the target, made a Pugachev cobra, gasped kaaaak, and immediately flew into the stratosphere in hypersound, from return fire. No air defense system can reach such a wunderwafer. laughing
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 25 December 2022 00: 37
      0
      Quote from Rustic
      What kind of nonsense? Do we, and not only us, have 155mm aircraft guns? fool

      And what the hell is a gun to him if the carrier has already delivered him to a height of 10-15 km and dropped him from there? And who cares what caliber he has.
      1. Rustic
        Rustic 25 December 2022 02: 28
        +3
        And what the hell is a gun to him if the carrier has already delivered him to a height of 10-15 km and dropped him from there?
        Are you suggesting throwing Krasnopoles like ordinary cast irons? Do we have so many of them that there is nowhere else to put them? fool
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 25 December 2022 11: 15
          0
          Quote from Rustic
          Are you suggesting throwing Krasnopoles like ordinary cast irons? Do we have so many of them that there is nowhere else to put them?

          Not like free-falling cast irons, but like adjustable aerial bombs, which we also lack. After all, it is not always possible to urgently deliver a howitzer with these shells to where the plane can fly. hi
  11. O. Bender
    O. Bender 24 December 2022 22: 41
    +5
    It’s incomprehensible game, do we really have 155mm barrels, it seems that artillery and tanks didn’t have such, and it’s even more impossible on planes. 10 cons
  12. Bogalex
    Bogalex 24 December 2022 22: 44
    +26
    Well, in general, I understood.
    Maxim Svetlyshov, an absolute amateur in military affairs and a complete layman in artillery, read somewhere that a modernized version of the 152-mm Krasnopol projectile is being developed based on the export version of the 155-mm Krasnopol-M2 projectile.
    A feature of the upgraded version of Krasnopol is its ability to be illuminated from an air carrier - a UAV (in fact, this is not a feature of the new projectile, it's just that the old projectile of the 1980s was simply not used as such). The fact that the old version of "Krasnopol" can also be illuminated from a UAV, Maxim Svetlyshov, of course, does not know.
    And since Maxim Svetlyshov, who is also a complete layman in matters of artillery firing in general and with the peculiarities of using high-precision ammunition, is not familiar in principle, without understanding anything from what he read, he decided that the new projectile itself can be used from an air carrier.
    He is the creator, he sees it this way wassat
    Bravo Admins!!! We wish we had more such authors - competent and competent! good
    1. tun5t
      tun5t 24 December 2022 22: 55
      +5
      now it’s clear to me, like a hedgehog, that the afftor is stupid, otherwise I thought how can I understand everything then ?, it didn’t even look like machine translation., thanks Alexey!
      1. Bogalex
        Bogalex 24 December 2022 23: 11
        +4
        drinks Always happy to help! After the first reading, I myself was ready to ski-pi-da-rum (administration!!! "Turpentine", aka "turpentine" - this is a NORMAL LITERARY WORD and has nothing to do with supporters of non-traditional sexual orientations !!!) eyes rub! Fortunately, I guessed to read it five more times in order to save my health.
      2. The popuas
        The popuas 25 December 2022 07: 42
        +2
        Dull is a unit of resistance to work! laughing and the author is just stupid
    2. Serge9901
      Serge9901 25 December 2022 00: 12
      +3
      Well, why did they attack a person - a "layman" ... All the news feeds are crammed with a report to Putin on the modification of the 155 mm Krasnopole and "use from an air carrier". Well, apparently, now, after such highly competent reviews from the VO, the entire Shipunov design bureau should be disbanded))
    3. DO
      DO 25 December 2022 03: 45
      +1
      Bogalex is perhaps even simpler:
      https://tass-ru.turbopages.org/turbo/tass.ru/s/armiya-i-opk/16681703 :

      The Krasnopol high-precision corrective artillery system, in addition to a high-explosive fragmentation guided projectile, also includes a laser target designator - a range finder, with which the product is aimed at the target. The 152 mm caliber projectile can be used by all types of artillery systems, including the modern Msta-S, Msta-SM and Koalitsiya-SV self-propelled howitzers. The range of its flight reaches 20 km, the mass of the warhead is 8 kg. The Krasnopol target designator is capable of simultaneously capturing up to three targets.
      The latest modification of the projectile "Krasnopol-M2" has a caliber of 155 mm ...

      That is, the texts of the Tass edition and this article rave the same way :)))
      There are two versions: either the author marked two places, or someone torn the text from someone without looking.
  13. Bogalex
    Bogalex 24 December 2022 22: 47
    +6
    We need to save this article. She really made my day! drinks
    1. Bogalex
      Bogalex 24 December 2022 23: 17
      +1
      Especially after the epic with "turpentine" laughing
  14. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 24 December 2022 22: 47
    +6
    In the latest modification of the Krasnopol-M2 projectile, the caliber has been increased to 155 mm, also up to 26 km increased maximum firing range has a caliber of 155 mm,
    Rave. Where are you going to shoot at 26 km - from an "air carrier"? If the head from Krasnopol was put on a planning bomb, then this is one thing, if it is still a projectile for firing from a cannon, then what does the "air carrier" have to do with it? Is it an open day in durdrma today?
  15. vvnab
    vvnab 24 December 2022 23: 04
    +7
    Nothing is clear. What 155mm? What's with the air carriers? Aircraft with 155mm cannon!? )) This makes no sense...
    1. Kalakutas
      Kalakutas 25 December 2022 08: 44
      +3
      It means about three "accompanied" targets for one projectile. Do you have any questions? No.
  16. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 24 December 2022 23: 14
    +14
    Yo-my! How did this nonsense appear on VO? belay Moderators! Ay! Where are you? Stop smoking! wassat The 155-mm artillery shell "Krasnopol-M2" was supplied, for example, to India in the early 2000s! 1. How could the projectile, modernized "at five minutes ago", again call M2? 2. Where did the "last" modification of the Krasnopol-D projectile go? 3. What does it mean: "Krasnopol" can be used from an air carrier? The projectile was "turned" into an aerial bomb? But why is it said so "vaguely"? 4.More: "there is a modification of" Krasnopol "for firing from a mortar ..." Which one? 120mm type "Sled" ... or for "Tulip" ... "sub-caliber in a container"? And so, and that sounds doubtful, if not delusional! Even if they created a 120-mm mine on the "base" of "Krasnopol", then it turns out a completely new ammunition (!) Which is pointless to call "Krasnopol"! Yes, and there is already a "Frontier"! In general, the article is rubbish!
  17. Centurion70
    Centurion70 24 December 2022 23: 17
    +7
    Delete this crazy article ... Author, off topic ... completely
  18. Petio
    Petio 24 December 2022 23: 22
    +5
    Of course, the projectile can be dropped from an UAV or even from a Su-25 if you make a suspension device, but then it will already be a KAB
  19. Introvert
    Introvert 24 December 2022 23: 25
    +1
    Russian designers have presented the latest modification of the Krasnopol high-precision artillery projectile, which makes it possible to use it from air carriers.

    Russian modernization... senseless and merciless...
  20. newtc7
    newtc7 24 December 2022 23: 25
    +4
    I alone cannot understand - how can you shoot artillery ammunition from an air carrier?
    Something this news smacks of armata.
  21. Egeny
    Egeny 24 December 2022 23: 31
    +1
    Quote: kapitan92
    Made for export in one word.

    Do we have trunks for it, or have the captured "Caesars" and "axes" already begun to be used?
  22. Egeny
    Egeny 24 December 2022 23: 35
    0
    Quote from: newtc7
    how can you shoot artillery ammunition from an air carrier?

    ... if you attach a barrel from the "Caesar" under the wing))
  23. ZeeD
    ZeeD 24 December 2022 23: 37
    +2
    I don’t understand .... Either the author indulges in hard drugs, or a humorous siatya ...
  24. Egeny
    Egeny 24 December 2022 23: 38
    +2
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    In general, the article is rubbish!

    ... but it’s not boring and the people had fun.)
  25. faiver
    faiver 24 December 2022 23: 44
    +2
    lovely, just lovely laughingI haven't laughed so much in a long time, this is just a masterpiece ....
  26. PPD
    PPD 24 December 2022 23: 46
    +4
    Is this a cosword?
    On which air carrier are 155 mm guns present?
    Or someone has already started celebrating the New Year? wassat
  27. opposite28
    opposite28 25 December 2022 00: 27
    +1
    Included with each projectile "Krasnopol-M2" it is desirable to have 100g for beaten ... good drinks
  28. km-21
    km-21 25 December 2022 01: 43
    +2
    Russia has modified Krasnopol high-precision projectiles for air carriers

    The Krasnopol projectile is intended for firing from a howitzer. It turns out that the author means installing a howitzer on the plane?
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 25 December 2022 08: 41
      0
      Not on a plane, but on the combat airship "Kirov".
  29. Vasya Chernov
    Vasya Chernov 25 December 2022 01: 46
    0
    We had a batch or a couple of batches of revenge under 155mm, and for it, these shells were also made, and so they will be attached to drones or Su-25 on suspensions and dropped on the heads of the enemy.
  30. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 25 December 2022 01: 52
    -1
    To make a bomb out of a projectile is, of course, a masterpiece. Very inspiring. But if it is effective, and most importantly, if they can deploy large-scale production in a short time (and the product will not have a "horse" price tag), then what the hell is aesthetics.
    Generally speaking, for Krasnopol, Vicki quotes a price of $35, suppose it has fallen in price since then to $000 - in total, roughly speaking, we have an 30-kilogram bomb for 8 lyama rubles / piece.
    Whether this is good or bad, I can't judge, from my couch it seems insanely expensive for ammunition, which will require thousands.
    Also I'm confused by the potency. the ability of this wonderwaffle to approach the ideal qualities for a gliding guided bomb - namely height, distance and release speeds. By no means an expert, however, the ammunition itself was probably developed for these inputs from artillery launch + operation of its own engine. So the requirements for the use of its modifications from aircraft may differ for the worse from a product specially designed for these tasks ..

    However, all this is nothing more than a cold shower out of fear. It is positive that there is progress in the direction of eliminating the backlog in low-level precision weapons.
    1. Adrey
      Adrey 25 December 2022 10: 40
      -1
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      To make a bomb out of a projectile is, of course, a masterpiece. Very inspiring

      "Nothing new under the sun" laughing. Of course, the Japanese did not stoop to this before WWII, and their conversion of a 356-mm armor-piercing projectile into a BAB was not limited to welding stabilizers into the hull, but nevertheless ...
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      But if it works

      Will not be. I'll explain why below.
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      and the product will not have a "horse" price tag

      Will. Again, because it is not for the sake of efficiency that all this is wound up.

      Let's go in order. Yapi, converting the old armor-piercing into a BAB, clearly saw how he (she) would be used - against the armored decks of battleships from a great height (at least 3 km. This is important). Our prodigy is not clear why. Ukraine does not seem to have cruisers.
      The mass of a 155-mm projectile is not less than 45 kg, the amount of explosives is 8 kg. FAB weight 100 - 100 kg, explosive charge 70 kg. What is called, feel the difference. An air bomb does not need thick projectile walls, it does not experience wild accelerations when fired. Those. banal FAB-50 with an analogue of JDAM at least 3! times more powerful.
      To the question of the thickness of the walls of the projectile, which (allegedly) will have a positive effect when using this device on armored vehicles and fortifications. Will not be! For the full manifestation of this quality, it is necessary to have significant kinetic energy, which is achieved by the height of the discharge (I already mentioned) and the mass of the product. In this situation, the mass of a 155-mm projectile is insufficient to overcome a significant reinforced concrete barrier, and it is excessive and not required at all to destroy armored vehicles. In the Second World War, "Tigers" and "Panthers" were quite amazed at the upper projection of the PTAB weighing 1,5 kg.
      Now BT is more interesting, but 5 kg of cumulative ammunition is enough for the eyes. Let's "rude" the total weight (in our in the case of a hypothetical) controlled PTAB of 15 kg, we get that instead of one "air" "Krasnopol" we can take 3.
      Well, and as one of my colleagues wrote above, using expensive electronics designed to withstand acceleration when fired in this way is "driving nails with a microscope." So it won't be cheap request
      So your
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      However, all this is nothing more than a cold shower out of fear.
      more than justified.
      A spectacular explosion turned out only in the media space laughing. However, this is normal for us. laughing.
      PS There is one truth, a small indirect benefit - absolutely illiterate "hurrah-throwers" on the salary clearly manifested themselves laughing
  31. Joker62
    Joker62 25 December 2022 02: 16
    -3
    Quote: poquello
    Quote from breakin_beats
    The special military operation will significantly and positively influence the development of the Russian Armed Forces. Already affects and this fact cannot be denied good

    I just didn’t understand a damn thing about 155mm
    "In the latest modification of the Krasnopol-M2 projectile, the caliber has been increased to 155 mm"

    What do not you understand? am
    We read carefully:
    The 152 mm caliber ammunition is intended for use by all types of artillery systems, including the latest howitzers.

    It was about the old modification of ammunition.
    After modification, it became:
    In the latest modification of the Krasnopol-M2 projectile, the caliber is increased to 155 mm, the maximum firing range of 26 mm caliber has also been increased to 155 km, and the accuracy necessary to hit small targets has been increased.

    Under curtain:
    The ammunition can be used in all weather conditions, including high cloud cover and strong winds.

    which was not the case before.
    Turn on your head, sofa general of the troops! soldier
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 25 December 2022 10: 52
      0
      Quote: Joker62
      Turn on your head, sofa general of the troops!

      And you, the "headless horseman", judging by the comment, don't need a head? belay The 155-mm artillery shell "Krasnopol-M2" (complex!) Was developed a long time ago and even managed to be delivered to "someone and someplace"! You can't call it the newest! Yes ... they could upgrade the 155-mm Krasnopol-M2 artillery projectile ... for example, "give the ability" to be aimed at different frequencies of laser radiation, which is mentioned in the article ... but development is usually assigned a new one " index" ! This, by the way, could have been done with the 152-mm Krasnopol-M artillery shell! Thus, it becomes possible to conduct salvo fire under certain conditions! They could "remake" the laser seeker for a CO2 laser ... this will reduce the influence of weather conditions on the possibility, accuracy, firing range of the Krasnopol! But in the article "honey was mixed with tar"! Why, for example, increase the caliber to 155 mm to make an aerial bomb? belay
  32. Voronezh
    Voronezh 25 December 2022 02: 16
    -2
    They only forgot to mention that in order for this projectile to hit the target successfully, the target must be illuminated by spotters. And in the conditions of the outskirts, these are suicide bombers 99%
    1. alexoff
      alexoff 25 December 2022 02: 59
      0
      If the spotter's name is "Orlan-30", then the factory is still riveting. Drones like a month do not live in battles
  33. Toorik
    Toorik 25 December 2022 02: 41
    +1
    The article was written under psychotropic substances ???
  34. Yves762
    Yves762 25 December 2022 07: 19
    0
    That 20, that 26 km will not be enough. Won M982 "Excalibur" Block 1a-2 from 40-57 km to take the bar nagy.
    Ammunition caliber 152 mm .....Laser target designator can capture three targets at the same time.

    what The weird part though...
  35. Amateur
    Amateur 25 December 2022 07: 29
    0
    making it possible to use it from air carriers.

    Will the 152-mm howitzer be suspended from the aircraft, or will the Krasnopol be simply used as aerial bombs? You read such nonsense and wonder at the "naivety" of the author.
  36. Konnick
    Konnick 25 December 2022 07: 55
    +1
    I am translating the article.
    155 mm projectile in the amount of 3000 has long been delivered to India.
    And as for the air carrier, the GOS from Krasnopol is simply used, and not the projectile itself. It was the journalists, as always, who played the deaf phone in an interview on the first channel
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 25 December 2022 08: 11
      +1
      Watch the documentary
      from journalists of the first channel who cut the interview. And since the film, as always, "there are no analogues", that's where the legs grow from
      [media=https://www.1tv.ru/doc/pro-armiyu/bog-voyny-ukrotiteli-ognya-dokumentalnyy-film]
      The video itself is not inserted, watch from 38 minutes.
      And from myself. GOS was developed by LOMO,
      the manufacture of the GOS was carried out by the Progress Research and Production Complex (now NVK Progress, Nizhyn, Ukraine), the laser designator-range finder 1D15 (or 1D20) was created by the Polyus Research Institute. Onboard equipment - NIIFP. And Tula attached wings.
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 25 December 2022 08: 41
        -1
        From youtube without ads


        Watch from 28 minutes about a 155 mm projectile from an air carrier wassat
  37. Kerensky
    Kerensky 25 December 2022 08: 48
    +3
    Does the author not have Krasnopol in stock for shooting from a submerged position?
    In our chamber, versions for shooting from under the ice with agitation and sighting shells have long been developed and successfully tested. In the new modification, we slightly changed the caliber. Now it is 533.4 mm.
    The laser target designator can lock on three targets at the same time.

    For the sighting decided to leave. Hits STP from XNUMX targets.
  38. Yuriy Malyshko
    Yuriy Malyshko 25 December 2022 08: 49
    +1
    Such "raw" publications only discredit a respected channel. At least introduce special censorship (on stupidity).
  39. bar
    bar 25 December 2022 08: 56
    0
    Explain to an amateur how to launch an artillery shell from air carriers? Will they be dropped instead of bombs, or will a cannon barrel be screwed to air carriers?
  40. mmaxx
    mmaxx 25 December 2022 09: 04
    -1
    203 mm must be done. There will be a thing! The explosives are much larger and the range is good.
  41. Gnadiy
    Gnadiy 25 December 2022 09: 10
    0
    this is for whom 155mm (for NATO guns)
  42. Guran33 Sergey
    Guran33 Sergey 25 December 2022 09: 44
    +1
    What has science come to?A projectile with a multiple warhead !!!! wassat wassat drinks
  43. Adrey
    Adrey 25 December 2022 09: 45
    -1
    Well, what do you all not understand!? A new aircraft gun in caliber 155 has been developed, and a projectile for it! "Soon in the army" laughing
  44. syabroleonid
    syabroleonid 25 December 2022 09: 50
    0
    It can be dropped on the enemy's head along with a 155 mm howitzer.
  45. Kirill Prozorovski
    Kirill Prozorovski 25 December 2022 09: 52
    0
    Are 155 mm guns mounted on fighters, attack aircraft or helicopters? Well, once on air carriers. Ah, drones and airships.
  46. T800-101
    T800-101 25 December 2022 10: 04
    +1
    Quote: poquello
    I just didn’t understand a damn thing about 155mm
    "In the latest modification of the Krasnopol-M2 projectile, the caliber has been increased to 155 mm"

    They say that the barrels of all artillery are worn out, 152 dangles there. We decided to release a "repair" caliber. So slowly reach 205.
  47. demchuk.ig
    demchuk.ig 25 December 2022 13: 19
    +1
    Quote: Leshak
    [i] [/ i] Perhaps this caliber was created specifically for aviation use (this is just my assumption).

    Personally, I didn’t understand anything at all. Some kind of nonsense.
  48. TOR2
    TOR2 25 December 2022 15: 00
    +1
    The ammunition can be used in all weather conditions, including high cloud cover and strong winds.

    With laser guidance, this somehow does not fit. Apparently, a module with GLONASS guidance has been created for the existing ammunition. But according to its characteristics, it cannot withstand overloads when starting from the barrel. Perhaps this is a cheaper version of the guidance module. It is interesting from what height and at what distance this modification will be able to plan. It is clear that it was done "in haste" in order to cover the needs that have arisen.
  49. Duncan
    Duncan 25 December 2022 18: 28
    0
    Instead of increasing the range (Excalibur has 70 km), there are no analogues blinded from what was.
    What's next, a projectile for underwater and space carriers?
  50. solar
    solar 26 December 2022 09: 54
    0
    designers presented the latest modification of the Krasnopol high-precision artillery projectile, which makes it possible to use it from air carriers

    very strange decision. There is a very strict requirement for guided projectiles to remain operational at very high accelerations, which are typical for projectiles when fired. And this entails a significant part of the cost of the product. There are no such strict requirements for missile control units, there is much less acceleration.
    Therefore, it makes no sense to remake the projectile for a situation where there are no such large overloads as when fired from a gun barrel. Thrown away money.