Armored Mystery from Arzamas, or Vanity around the BTR-82AM

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About a year ago it became known that, in anticipation of new models of armored personnel carriers, the domestic Ministry of Defense intends to modernize the existing equipment. A little later, the first details appeared: during the first stage of these works, domestic repair shops had to update the equipment of two motorized rifle brigades, a total of 134 armored personnel carriers. At the same time, it was announced that the existing BTR-80 of early modifications would be repaired and re-equipped in accordance with the modernization of the BTR-82А project. Finally, in October of this year, the official website of Rosoboronpostavki appeared on the organization’s plans for the next year. Among other things, it is planned to repair and upgrade more 134 armored personnel carriers, this time to the version of the BTR-82AM. Interestingly, before the publication of documents regarding the repair order, the modification of the armored personnel carrier with the “AM” index did not appear anywhere, which caused a lot of questions. The date of execution of the order appointed November 2013 year.

Armored Mystery from Arzamas, or Vanity around the BTR-82AM


Approximately a month before the last reports - in the twenties of September - a small note appeared on the official website of the Arzamas Machine-Building Plant about the festivities dedicated to the fortieth anniversary of the company's foundation. The holiday was held at several venues, including in one of the workshops of AMZ, where artists of the factory initiative and ensemble of the Volga Command of the Internal Troops performed. During this concert, the press photographer of the AMZ official website took a snapshot, which aroused increased interest on the part of specialists and amateurs of military equipment. On it, several employees of the plant are watching the performances of artists, sitting and standing on a certain armored vehicle. According to the general outlines of the corps, an armored personnel carrier of the BTR-80 family was recognized in it, but its tower and armament attracted particular attention.

Very quickly, the assumption appeared that this is the modernization of the BTR-82А armored personnel carrier, which had been rumored earlier. Later, after the publication of information on the ordering of repairs, the armored vehicle from the AMZ workshop was sometimes called BTR-82AM, although there was no official information about the armored personnel carrier that served as a spectator platform. In addition, there is every reason to consider an armored personnel carrier from the workshop of the Arzamas plant just a little modified BTR-82А, which differs from the original version of this modification by the presence of a perforated gun cover. As for the rest, the car seen at the factory, as far as it can be argued, is similar to those captured in the photographs of the BTR-82A, which are available on the same AMZ website. The towers of both designs have a number of identical characteristics, which serves as proof of identity.

Another question caused weapons "Lit" cars. On the existing photos of the BTR-82A it is clearly visible that it is equipped with an automatic 2A72 cannon of 30 caliber of millimeters. This gun is not difficult to recognize by the characteristic casing of the barrel in its breech part and by two annular bulges: at the muzzle and in the middle of the barrel. In the photograph from the workshop, the front "ring" is noticeable, located near the barrel. At the same time through the holes of the perforation can be viewed plate fins. Obviously, the gun of this armored personnel carrier has additional means of air cooling. Such a nuance attracts attention and makes you wonder: what kind of gun is installed on the "shop" armored personnel carrier? The most likely version of the origin of the fins of the barrel is a kind of modernization, carried out by the developers of the gun and not publicized at the time. There is information regarding the two-plane stabilization of the BTR-82 weapons. In addition, a rifle-caliber machine gun paired with a gun is mounted on a combat module in a separate casing.

The remaining measures of refinement of the BTR-80 to the state of the BTR-82A are sufficiently known and do not cause any special questions. So, instead of the native engine power 260 hp BTR-82A has a 300-strong diesel, which increases the speed and maneuverability. Slightly modified chassis. For the first time in the practice of building domestic armored personnel carriers, the BTR-82А has a number of design features necessary to protect against mines and shelling from small arms. To this end, the bottom of the car received a new two-tier design that absorbs the energy of an explosion, and all the internal parts of the armored hull are covered with a special anti-splinter backlash that delays the fragments of armor that come out when hit by some projectiles and protects themselves from bullets or projectiles. According to various estimates, the survivability of the BTR-82А is approximately 20% higher than that of the base BTR-80.

It is possible that upgrading to the state of the BTR-82AM implies minor changes in weapons, namely the installation of a protective casing, but the basis for the update is likely to be a significant change in the composition of electronic equipment. There is information about the imminent launch of the launch of the Agat-MDT sighting and observation system, through which the crew of the armored personnel carrier can detect and destroy targets in all weather conditions, including at night. Agat-MDT has optical and thermal imaging observation channels, as well as a laser range finder and a ballistic computer. The use of such sighting and observation complex significantly increases the combat capabilities of the armored personnel carrier. However, due to the lack of official data on the modification of the BTR-82AM, it is impossible to say for sure about the presence of Agata-MDT on it.

In general, the BTR-82AM project, as opposed to just “82”, still remains a kind of secret vehicle, the appearance of which was not announced. All versions are based solely on fragmentary information and just one photo from the workshop of the Arzamas engineering plant. So the characteristics, equipment and armament of the armored personnel carrier BTR-82AM will be in dispute in the near future. Only the publication of official data will shed light on the appearance of the mysterious armored personnel carrier.


On the materials of the sites:
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/
http://amz.ru/
http://rosoboronpostavka.ru/
http://gurkhan.blogspot.ru/
http://militaryparitet.com/
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  1. Splin
    +9
    7 November 2012 08: 50
    Normal and quite effective solution. you will wait for these "Boomerangs", modernization is three times cheaper than the new BTR-82A and just as much faster.
    1. bask
      +4
      7 November 2012 16: 39
      Splin We don’t have to wait, Kurgan’s, but I need BTR -80.82. There is a modern 24-ton BTR-90 with mine protection. For all the customers, and most importantly, security is an order of magnitude higher than the BTR 80 .. But the life of a soldier in the Moscow Region and the Ministry of Internal Affairs is not at all appreciated. And in the 21st century, fighters continue to ride on armored vehicles of the BTR 80-82 .. THE FIRST AND MAIN PROTECTION OF THE BTR .......
      1. Splin
        +2
        7 November 2012 17: 11
        Well, firstly, the BTR-90 is not on the conveyor lines. Then we talk about those machines that are in the troops. In Ukraine, there are also BTR-3 and 4, which are superior to the protection of the Soviet armored personnel carriers. But no one refuses to modernize the BTR-7. As a result, 10 BTR-4s will come to the troops in December, and Nikolaev by September had surrendered 40 BTR-7s. True, we have a different reason (there is no money and not a new car), but the end result is the same
        1. bask
          +1
          7 November 2012 19: 07
          Well, what can I say Uraintsy fellows. For much more modest means. We made an armored personnel carrier -4. With aft entrance. I don’t know about the tactical and technical data, but even so. 200 pieces were delivered to Iraq. And most importantly, Ukraine is not at war yet. And Russia is in a constant war with the terrorists. in the Caucasus !!!!!! And the guys die every month with us! Maybe the new Moscow Region will change something ((although it is hard to believe)) UNLESS THE SOLDIER WILL LIFE IN THE FIRST PLACE, nothing will change .. In the S. Caucasus, the equipment should only be equipped with MRA technology with an enhanced mine mine protection. All the rest x ....... I)))))) in scrap metal (((((((ONLY ARMORED EQUIPMENT FOR MIRAP TECHNOLOGY ,,,,,, All ....
          1. +5
            7 November 2012 20: 50
            BTR 90 - "Rostok" (GAZ-5923)
            1. bask
              +2
              7 November 2012 20: 59
              Beautiful car (GAZ 5923) With such a combat module, now it is not enough in the troops of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the S. Caucasus !!!!!!
          2. -1
            8 November 2012 12: 56
            Tell me at least one period in our History when the life of an ordinary defender was appreciated?
            But the Ukrainians are great, they are trying. The truth is I do not see any special responses to the actions of their cars in Iraq.
            1. 0
              11 March 2017 07: 44
              Instead of August 2010, Ukraine was able to ship the first batch of equipment only by the end of April 2011:
              - Commander armored personnel carrier BTR-4KE - 4 pcs.
              The second batch was exported to Iraq in July 2012:
              - Commander Armored personnel carrier BTR-4KE - 8 pcs.
              - Armored personnel carrier BTR-4 - 40 pcs.
              Iraq returned the third and last batch due to cracks in the corps - the result of the efforts of the Ukrainians? After the revolution of nits, nothing good came of Ukraine. Nits they are nits, sorry for my bad French.
              In total, somewhere around 52 cars can be at war if they are not broken or abandoned. A drop in the sea of ​​war, therefore, probably not heard. In addition, you need to repair equipment, I’m not sure that Ukraine is able to fulfill any international contracts in general. Can the combat-ready units rot without spare parts?
          3. Dikremnij
            0
            22 November 2012 12: 28
            They sold it, but if our guys hadn’t gone to Iraq and left their lives there, we probably wouldn’t have sold the Iraqis either the armored personnel carriers or the KrAZ trucks.
          4. 0
            4 October 2018 04: 26
            Russian BTR-87 is the same BTR-82, but with aft landing.
  2. Footmansur86
    +3
    7 November 2012 09: 11
    The park needs to be updated, but gradually, there is no point in changing everything and immediately, firstly, it’s expensive, secondly, after 5-10 years this equipment will need modernization, with the exception of aviation and the fleet, there is much more room for modernization. It’s better to wait for the new platform and then buy thoroughly.
  3. homeland
    +4
    7 November 2012 09: 25
    We should also learn to competently use used equipment to sell to other countries, respectively, after modernization to the requirements of the customer
    1. +2
      7 November 2012 10: 18
      homeland,


      for this you need to have service centers
  4. +2
    7 November 2012 10: 59
    So what are you all seething with? .. In the fact that there appeared (or is it supposed to have appeared) a certain modification of the "eightieth" car with the "AM" index? ..
    So let's wait a bit and do not guess at the coffee grounds for one photo. I think time will put everything in its place, and soon everything will become clear - there is such a machine, there is none, and what are its differences from previous armored personnel carriers ...
    1. Splin
      +2
      7 November 2012 11: 03
      I don’t think so. that the differences will be significant. It will be something in between BTR-80A and BTR-82A.
      1. bask
        0
        7 November 2012 19: 17
        Splin, what do you think ... ,,, is average ,,,, Between BTR80 and BTR 82. Only numbers differ. And a little tuning. Why two in the name. Even the T90 MS differs from the T72B ,, Slingshot, like, , heaven and earth ,, And in the BTR 82 there is nothing new ... The case, the reservation, just like on the 80th.
        Replacing the engine and armament with a slight increase in the reservation, due to the lining, do not differ in tactics ......... x characteristics of the BTR80 ... and BTR82 ...
        1. Splin
          +1
          7 November 2012 19: 24
          Quote: bask
          Between BTR80 and BTR 82. Only numbers differ

          E-e-e strongly coordinated BTR-60PB, BTR-70 and BTR-80. Chezh they attributed a dozen? Is it that after decades of adoption And what then is the BTR-152?
    2. bask
      +1
      7 November 2012 16: 58
      BTR 80 How many letters do not add BTR 80 will remain. The only thing that increased its combat effectiveness is the new viewing devices ,,, Kevlar ,,, loot and 30 mm gun 2A72. Yes and a new engine. Not enough to change the numbers from 80 to 82. Here you need there are already structural changes, but they don’t exist ... A design similar to BTR80 ..
  5. david210512
    0
    7 November 2012 11: 01
    would be faster
  6. Samovar
    +6
    7 November 2012 11: 08
    Hello to all.
    Found something here. He must be
    1. Splin
      +1
      7 November 2012 11: 20
      The casing on the trunk is very large, NOT SUITABLE!
  7. karimbaev
    -1
    7 November 2012 11: 22
    but earlier it was possible to finalize, all this is necessarily "maybe"
  8. Lucky
    +2
    7 November 2012 12: 02
    Well, they are rightly doing that they will upgrade the old equipment, so there will be more modern weapons in the army!
  9. +1
    7 November 2012 12: 04
    to increase survival by 20%, in conditions when the Beter actually became a battlefield machine, because of which the BTR-80 had a reputation for a coffin on wheels - this is very small. Plus, an expensive sighting system with all the body, heat, laser bells and whistles, which leads to the thought of the desire of the developers to wet the enemy’s armored vehicles from a 30-mm gun and storm his position. But the hull remained from the BTR-80, it can also be penetrated by a machine gun. In general, the concept of using this technique is not clear. This BeTaR is no longer a taxi to the battlefield, because it is rearmament, but remained very vulnerable. He will not join the Russian army, they want to campaign for export, while at the same time having experienced certain technological solutions, such as sight, protection, an upgraded gun for already new cars.
    1. bask
      +2
      7 November 2012 17: 04
      Here is Aeneas, the main and main question. The BTR 82 remained. We are bulletproof and mine is not stable ... And this machine is only a delivery to the battlefield .. But why then a 30 mm gun? What would participate in the assault operations. Closed circle. Booking zero, and weapons like BMP on ... ????
  10. stascccp
    0
    7 November 2012 13: 04
    and why there isn’t a photo of Novgo BTR-82AM Attack raskaz that in the photo is that you saw me everybody will be interested to see on this BTR
    1. Samovar
      0
      7 November 2012 13: 33
      I brought above.
  11. bask
    0
    7 November 2012 17: 16
    What does the MO do not have to buy, which does not protect, morally and physically, the obsolete BTR 80-82. We would buy into the troops a truly modernized BMP3M!
  12. AlexMH
    +1
    7 November 2012 17: 39
    In the army in bulk BTR-s 70 and 80, and overnight they obviously will not change. It would be more logical to develop kits for modernization (mine protection of the bottom, mounted blocks of dynamic protection, improved electronics) and in parallel to develop a fundamentally new machine. It seems to me that industry didn’t think of anything here, believing that they would be massively buying the modernized armored personnel carriers as a whole. In my opinion, the division into armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles is outdated, it is only necessary to make infantry fighting vehicles with enhanced protection (another issue is tracked, wheeled or such and such, but still partially unified) and lighter reconnaissance and airborne landing vehicles. By the way, the BMD-4 is quite appropriate for its purpose, if you are not going to parachute the tank :)
    1. bask
      0
      7 November 2012 19: 26
      Yes AlexMN agrees. But only ,, deep ,,, modernization, with developments for the BTR 90))))))) it is desirable to move from the BTR90 ((((((Reinforcing the compact DZ, V-shaped bottom, with reinforced mine protection.Splin. Here is the transition the model between the BTR 90 and the BTR80 can be called .... Btr-rum 82 !!!!
      1. Splin
        +3
        7 November 2012 19: 30
        Now there is no concept of armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles. There is a "multi-purpose combat platform"
  13. bask
    0
    7 November 2012 19: 43
    Splin agrees. The concept is there but the armored vehicles are on, this concept is not !! And when the multipurpose power units appear. ,, Boomerang ,, and ,, Kurganets. Another big question. The article about the German ,, Boxer ,,, The name of the armored personnel carrier of a modular design. hope for a new MO Shoigu ... Until the 15-20th year the equipment in the troops, don’t wait. That's where we need a deep modernization of the BTR80 with BTR90 elements .. The Poles from our MT-S GSH could make the BWP-200. And then based on of this, to make multi-purpose boards ... ,, Anders ,, in German culture and MTO ..
    1. Splin
      +2
      7 November 2012 20: 06
      Not yet in Russia - when the caterpillar Kurganets and wheeled Boomerang will appear - will be. In the meantime, of course, everything is divided into armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. They have different tasks.
      1. bask
        0
        7 November 2012 20: 31
        In the previous comment, you wrote how the BTR-60, BTR-70, BTR-80 differed in their bodies, MTO, transmission, reservation, wheelbase. And so on ..., trifle, 82 -tka, this is a purely commercial project, for profit. But it was practically in the metal BTR ,, Gilza ,, reorganized BTR90 with aft entrance and an average location pm MTO ((((as on BTR -4. ((((Desheha and 10-12 years. In Uraine a similar project already on the conveyor. And we still have one zilch, yes, a change of numbers ... ,, The sleeve ,, could be the main BTR-ohm until the 20s. World-wide level .. And compare the BTR 82 with Boxers, Nekstor, Superava ,, Pandur , Patria ,,, Piranha 4-5, even if it’s not correct. By the way, look at the infe differences, Piranha, 4 from ,, Piranha 3. Here is the new armored troop-carrier justifies the change of numbers ...
  14. VAGUUS
    0
    15 November 2012 19: 33
    unsuccessful weapons system! The inconvenience is that the equipment of the gun can only be made from the armor. The gun is capricious if the shell does not lie snugly in the crab, then the delay is guaranteed and to fix it you need to climb onto the armor.

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