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Political conspiracy around the crash near Smolensk

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More than 2,5 years have passed since the tragedy near Smolensk, when the main board of Poland, on which the president of the country and dozens of top government officials were, suffered a disaster. It would seem that hundreds of examinations were carried out with the involvement of specialists from different countries, hundreds of images of the tragedy site were taken, data from flight recorders were used, dispatchers from Smolensk-Severny airport were interrogated, and this means that it’s time to put an end, but this as it turned out, does not fit in with the interests of the Polish opposition. The data on difficult weather conditions in the morning of 10 on April 2010 of the year, as well as on the presence in the cabin of the liner of unauthorized persons who put pressure on the decision making by the crew of the Polish Tu-154M, as a result of which a terrible tragedy occurred, are not impressive for those who persistently seek some anti-Polish conspiracy.


Political conspiracy around the crash near Smolensk


Not so long ago, several scandals involving the tragedies of the Polish aircraft with a representative delegation on board flared up. At first, photos of the bodies of the victims of the Smolensk tragedy appeared on the Internet, which shocked the public. This was the reason for claims from Warsaw to Moscow. According to representatives of the Polish side, only the investigative bodies of Russia could publish the scary pictures of the remains of the dead. This had to be answered by the staff of the Investigative Committee. According to their statements, the RF IC has photos from the scene of the tragedy, but none of the volumes of the criminal case contain those photos that appeared on the World Wide Web.

Both sides strongly condemned those who decided to throw in an information bomb in the form of published images, and the press service of the Investigative Committee of Russia reported that operational investigative actions are being taken to find those people who decided in a very vile way to outrage the memory of the victim of the Polish air force accident board number XXUMX.

And the searches were crowned with success. It turned out that the Altai blogger Anton Sizykh published scary pictures. He himself said that he simply reposted the photo from another blog - the blog of journalist Tatyana Karatsuba. According to Sizykh, he published a photo in order to prove that there was no plane crash near Smolensk at all, and the death of representatives of the Polish authorities occurred in Poland in general. Talking about the tragedy near Smolensk, the Poles started to get the maximum benefit from the new accusations against the Russian Federation. As they say, no comment ...

However, if in this case both sides quickly reached a consensus and did not continue to exaggerate this topic, then the situation turned into a much more complicated one. A real thunder from the blue sky thundered at the moment when in one of the most popular Polish newspapers, the Rzeczpospolita, a material appeared suddenly that explosive media were found on fragments of a Polish airliner crashed near Smolensk. For obvious reasons, this led the Poles to a state of real shock. After all, if there were traces of explosives, then it turns out that an act of terrorism occurred in the sky above Smolensk ... However, after a few hours, Polish newsmen had to take the words about "explosives on fragments" back. It turned out that this is monstrous misinformation, which could finally spoil the already not entirely positive relations between Poland and Russia.

After identifying a newspaper duck with such provocative subtext, the editor-in-chief of the newspaper Rzeczpospolita had to raise the question of his resignation. More precisely, chief editor Tomash Wroblewski, said that “he cares about the good name of the newspaper and transfers his fate as editor-in-chief into the hands of the owners of the publication. They say that it is the owners of the newspaper who will have to decide whether to leave it at their post or not.

Meanwhile, information about the alleged traces of explosives on the crashed liner quickly spread around Poland and, despite the fact that journalists confessed to misinformation, many representatives of public organizations and other media outlets decided to call for the creation of a new international commission to investigate the sensational case. One of the main ideologues of the endless succession of investigations involving additional forces and means is the brother of the deceased Polish President Lech Kaczynski - Jaroslav Kaczynski. This gentleman with enviable persistence continues to ignore the conclusions of several commissions at once about the causes of the Tu-154 accident in April 2010. According to Jaroslaw Kaczynski, not a plane crash took place near Smolensk, but a murder ... On this basis, the main opponent of the current Polish President Bronislav Komorowski demands the immediate resignation of the Cabinet of Ministers, the top of the Prosecutor General’s Office, allegedly hiding a certain “truth” about the catastrophe. For supporters of the conspiratorial version of the fall of the Polish aircraft near the Smolensk-Severny airport, such words of Mr. Kaczynski are an incentive to spread the data about the “Russian track”.

There is no doubt that Yaroslav Kaczynski’s grief can be understood, but all his attempts to re-fuel an unhealthy interest in the catastrophe are more like a desire to receive personal political dividends on exaggerating pseudo-facts about the death of his brother, his wife, and 94 people who were 10 on April 2010 of the year. ill-fated board.

The death of one of the key witnesses in this sensational case was another factor that sparked the interest of the Poles in a plane crash on the first side. In the late evening of October 28, 2012 was found in the basement of the house by Remigiusz Mus, the flight engineer of the second Polish aircraft, who was sent to the mourning events dedicated to the tragic events in Katyn. Mus 10 April 2010 was part of the crew of the Yak-40, who landed without any problems at the airport "Smolensk-North". The official cause of death was suicide, which immediately became the reason for a number of Polish media to state that the death of a flight engineer was associated with the Smolensk tragedy.

It is reported that Remigiusz Mus, along with Arthur Voshtyl, the Yak-40 pilot, who landed in Smolensk about an hour before the tragedy with the Tu-154, was the main witnesses of the case, initiated in connection with the Smolensk plane crash. It is also reported that Mus allegedly heard the dispatcher of the Smolensk airfield allowed the Tu-154M pilots to descend to the height of 50 m, although there was a thick fog above the ground, and there was a forest belt in front of the airfield. According to the data, which are considered official and confirmed by the experts of the commissions, nothing like the record of conversations of the Tu-154 board with the dispatcher in Smolensk does not contain. It turns out that either Remigiush Muss was not telling the truth, or the 2 commissions (IAC and Polish), which managed to overwrite the flight recorders, were immediately wrong ... Naturally, supporters of the “Russian trace” search in the tragedy immediately stated that Muss was telling the truth and therefore he was driven to suicide ...

Meanwhile, the pilot of the most safely landed Yak-40 aircraft, Arthur Voshtyl, said in an interview with one of the Polish publications that he also heard through the communication system talking in the Tu-154M cockpit, but did not hear the dispatcher allow the board to drop to a critical height. Voshtyl says that he himself warned pilots of the main Polish side that the weather conditions in Smolensk had deteriorated sharply, he also states that Tu-154М received the same information from the ground from the dispatcher. Pilot Yak-40 confirms that in such circumstances, the captain of the aircraft itself makes the decision about landing, guided by the operational situation and instrument readings. The crew of the Tu-154M, according to the results of a number of examinations, completely ignore the data from the instruments, as well as the signal from the TAWS system, indicating a dangerous approach to the ground. Moreover, two outsiders, Andrzej Blasik (commander of the Polish Air Force) and director of the diplomatic protocol of the Polish Foreign Ministry, Mariusz Kazana, were in the pilots' office at once. According to Voshtyl, these people could not order the Tupolev pilots to land in any weather conditions, but the recording of the flight recorders makes it clear that the crew literally forced them to close their eyes to all warning signals from both the dispatchers in Smolensk and the instruments of the aircraft and indirectly forced to land in the most difficult meteorological situation. The phrase “If we do not land, they will kill me,” uttered by Arkadiusz Protasiuk (commander of the airborne No. XXUMX), makes it clear that the crew was clearly under pressure.

Everyone knows that President Kaczynski was flying without official coordination with the Russian side, and he chose the Smolensk airfield as the final destination. He was offered several times to get to the venue of mourning events dedicated to the memory of Polish officers who died at Katyn through other airports, which were better equipped, and the weather conditions of 10 on April 2010 were more favorable than at Smolensk. As a result, Kaczynski himself chose the route Warsaw-Smolensk. Apparently, the need to follow this particular route has become a kind of psychological pressure for the crew of the Tu-154M. The pilot was more afraid of the wrath of President Lech Kaczynski than the difficult weather conditions overboard, which led to the terrible tragedy ...

Obviously, stakeholders will do everything to continue to attract unhealthy attention to the events of April 10 2010. And if so, then we can confidently assert that the conspiracy versions, which in no way match either the expert conclusions or the “black boxes” of the Tu-154M, will appear more and more over time. One hour, one of the overly active Polish conspiracy theorists will also push the Russian side forward, as is the case with the shooting of Polish officers in the Katyn forest ... Therefore, you should be ready for this turn of events.
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  1. TULSKIY CAMOBAP
    TULSKIY CAMOBAP 7 November 2012 08: 12 New
    +13
    Poland will now procrastinate this topic until the next coming fool, now we will wait when they find traces of polonium)
    1. crazyrom
      crazyrom 8 November 2012 00: 19 New
      +1
      They are already looking for traces of a combat laser which bad Russians cut in half a plane in flight ...
  2. AAA
    AAA 7 November 2012 08: 20 New
    +7
    Yes, the Poles are seriously ill with Russophobia.
    1. Jaros81
      Jaros81 7 November 2012 14: 57 New
      +4
      Isn’t it time to prescribe a medicine for them? In past times it helped ...
      1. Draz
        Draz 8 November 2012 06: 25 New
        +1
        Time has shown that this is incurable.
        1. mladenec
          mladenec 9 November 2012 08: 51 New
          0
          The Poles are Russians with a stupefied consciousness by the Roman Catholic Church, I have done so to them, and this process is reversible !!!!!!!!!!
          The main thing is to identify the causes and run them on the reverse ...
    2. david210512
      david210512 7 November 2012 17: 16 New
      0
      ALL RIVERS ARE THE SAME
  3. sergo0000
    sergo0000 7 November 2012 08: 20 New
    +23
    Well, it doesn’t give for how many centuries, neither our Poles nor Swedes nor Germans nor French this “Smolensk road” of peace! wink Enchanted or something !? Oh, how many rags on her break their teeth!
    Because rage that they can’t do anything! You can’t argue against the truth!
    The fate of such a lie is always to grit your teeth with powerlessness and tear your ass hair.
    1. slas
      slas 7 November 2012 21: 01 New
      0
      Quote: sergo0000
      the luck of such a conviction is always to grind with powerless teeth and tear the hair on the ass.

      God is not a fraer - he sees everything and if he is already crossing the line then he upsets them
  4. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 7 November 2012 08: 20 New
    +27
    To be honest, this flow of feces from Pshekia and our followers of a beautiful woman in a white coat (Novodvorskaya) is already tired. All have long understood everything and figured it out. A bunch of inadequate flew to the coven, so in a hurry that the desire to slander them overpowered the sense of self-preservation ... The result is a bunch of corpses. By and large, only a very kind and unforgettable person can feel regret for the untimely death of that pack of jackal that flew in that carcass.
    For me, so at the crash site it is necessary to put a stone with the inscription: Here, Providence itself destroyed the ardent haters of the Russian land, for our benefit other okhalenki for thought! let the earth be an angular stone to them!
    1. Denzel13
      Denzel13 7 November 2012 11: 47 New
      +8
      All those who are looking for the “Russian trace” should be invited to take part in an investigative experiment with an exact repetition of all flight conditions in similar weather conditions. Tracks of course work will be added laughing
    2. Pacifist
      Pacifist 7 November 2012 11: 48 New
      0
      Despite all my peace, I would also draw a cross with the inscription "do not care here."
      Sami asked for it.
    3. Che
      Che 7 November 2012 15: 29 New
      0
      Sakhalininsk,
      Do not dig a hole for another, you yourself will get into it. Once again, the saying worked flawlessly.
    4. ser 190
      ser 190 7 November 2012 21: 28 New
      0
      drinks crying I agree to one hundred pounds !!!
    5. alexdol
      alexdol 7 November 2012 21: 36 New
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      Sakhalin (3) RU "Here Providence itself destroyed the ardent haters of the Russian land,"
      Totally agree with you! In this case, only Lech Kachinsky himself acted as a "providence"! Personally, from the very beginning, I had no doubt that it was he who was guilty of this tragedy! I recall a similar incident that occurred with the command of the Pacific Fleet of Russia flying from Moscow to D. Vostok. There, flight was also not recommended, due to the possibility of icing, but the “admirals” did not care! They decided that everything was possible for them, and that was a sad result, the plane crashed shortly after take-off ... Something similar happened with the Polish leadership and there was enough muddy water ...
  5. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 7 November 2012 08: 24 New
    +3
    A set of political points on death is an integral part of the election campaigns of our time. Only in vain did Kaczynski raise it again, more likely to lose this time. Why have something.
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 7 November 2012 08: 36 New
    +3
    Well, if there was a terrorist attack, then why precisely from the Russian side * Why not from Poland? Who benefited? That's so that such thoughts do not arise and shut up the mouth of the editor of a popular newspaper. It should also be added that there was supposed to be a TV broadcast on-line. The gentlemen of the Poles needed to land blood from the nose precisely at that airfield. Only you can’t PR at the dead. You really can say: "God sees everything and gives it out according to its merits."
  7. Footmansur86
    Footmansur86 7 November 2012 08: 59 New
    +6
    All these are empty statements by the Polish side, the investigation has been closed for a long time and the results have been made public with the participation of the Polish side, and this is so the day of the State University to work out and remind myself once again, let them still show you the fake from YouTube when they finished off the survivors))
    1. Leisure
      Leisure 7 November 2012 09: 57 New
      +3
      Yeah, a shot in the back of the head.
  8. Averias
    Averias 7 November 2012 09: 08 New
    +25
    Here is a fact about the "friendliness" of some Poles I would like to give. In the era of “wild” capitalism and perestroika, when people actively and massively drove to Poland selling drills, satin underpants and other “shortages” there, by chance, the same went there (all the more so since it turned out that there were friends there). And these acquaintances unanimously said that come, they say, meet, shelter, feed (did not meet). The goods turned off quickly and, inspired by a good fat, bought a bunch of food and alcohol and went to visit friends. The presence of a cottage, a satellite dish and other delights of bourgeois life evoked a feeling of "envy" - people live. And then the pink glasses flew off in an instant. They have a rolling ball in the refrigerator, they are not happy with the cottage (they pay a lot), the car needs to be repaired and there is no money, etc. When the vapors of alcohol hit the head, the fun began. At first they, like ours, went through their own government, and then at first they hinted and then they directly blamed Russia for everything. Towards the end, they were already shouting that we owe money, that territories should be returned (what?). And when I said that in fact they are now eating and drinking with my money, that they’re erratic, that they see the same marlboro and whiskey only in advertising (they themselves cannot allow it). And they also have the audacity to carry such nonsense. There was an attempt to clean my face, it did not work out, the honor of the country was not shamed. And then, with broken faces, they apologized for a long time, said that they were wrong, and immediately offered to agree that Russia owes them all the same. I didn’t go to Poland anymore.
    1. Manager
      Manager 7 November 2012 10: 35 New
      +7
      Quote: Averias
      Averias


      Yes it was. In the 90th year I went there with my father, they sold all kinds of garbage, and bought VIDAK Magnitovfon, etc. Even then, I realized how the whole world hates us Russians. But Psheks, in all seriousness, believe that the Russians are to blame for everything. That they have little money, that the streets are garbage. etc. Then the Psheks seemed to me simply an inadequate nation. I still think so.
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 7 November 2012 11: 05 New
        +6
        Quote: Manager
        Then the Psheks seemed to me simply an inadequate nation.

        And army humor is clearly not understood. Knowing about the “Topol”, they thought that the plane’s collision was caused not just by a tree, but by the “Birch” - some kind of an affiliate new means of anti-presidential and obviously anti-Polish Russian air defense, from here pulled traces of TNT and nitroglycerin ...
    2. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 7 November 2012 10: 42 New
      +15
      This story reminded an old joke about Bandera (can be exchanged for psheks)

      Two Banderaites with Berdans lie in an ambush, supposedly in an ambush, Russian border guards walk past, they calmed down, they don’t breathe .... border guards passed the danger ... one another asks:
      - Kum, you shaw shit?
      “Yes to Kumov, but not with fear, but from fierce hatred to maskals.”

      The same for the psheks laughing wretched what to take from them.
  9. FiReLiTh
    FiReLiTh 7 November 2012 09: 31 New
    +12
    Not I said (I read it in one of the comments), but I agree with the author:
    There is a God in heaven, all the Russophobian elite of Poland gathered in one plane and in one fell swoop on the ground ...

    Yes, purely humanly sorry, BUT ... Remembering the merits of the Poles in Russia, pity disappears.
    1. kopar
      kopar 7 November 2012 10: 05 New
      -2
      Guys, Poland and Russia have done so much harm to each other, which is not surprising.
  10. borisst64
    borisst64 7 November 2012 09: 41 New
    +4
    Interestingly, how do they represent a Russian saboteur who carried explosives into a Polish government plane?
    1. Denzel13
      Denzel13 7 November 2012 11: 53 New
      +4
      In a sore imagination, there could be a version that the Russians always in the production of something (in this case, the aircraft) provide for the possibility of its remote destruction. laughing
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 7 November 2012 16: 50 New
      +3
      Quote: borisst64
      It’s interesting how they represent a Russian saboteur who carried explosives on a Polish government plane

      Well, I was inconspicuously dressed in a sweatshirt, a cap with earflaps, and hidden explosives in a balalaika and on a bear’s collar. The Poles were cut short when I walked around the cabin, they also called me a clown.
  11. vorobey
    vorobey 7 November 2012 09: 49 New
    +15
    Did you hear what happened to the Polish gardener when he was told to remove the foliage? - He fell from a tree.
  12. Leisure
    Leisure 7 November 2012 09: 59 New
    +1
    Returned to their Polish "rams". As much as possible, it’s not interesting .....
  13. cucun
    cucun 7 November 2012 10: 06 New
    +1
    Indeed, if they are our "traces of explosives," then you must look for a saboteur in Poland ....

    - The Pole is not a nationality, this is a profession ...
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 7 November 2012 10: 58 New
      +3
      not ........... fl --- diagnosis ............
      1. Denzel13
        Denzel13 7 November 2012 11: 54 New
        +3
        and disappointing
  14. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 7 November 2012 10: 10 New
    +2
    "requires the immediate resignation of the Cabinet of Ministers, the top of the Prosecutor General's Office" lol and if he should go to a known address. With what ... will he dismiss Russian prosecutors?
    But in general: they pulled up logs with their "Carcass", they want to figure it out - let them fly to Smolensk, the dispatchers are already experienced there, they know how to meet "dear" guests.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 7 November 2012 10: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Фкенщь13
      let them fly to Smolensk


      No, really. Smolensk is already tired of meeting such "guests". Not only that, they don’t know the roads, they gobble up a lot for free, rights begin to download and buzz, and they don’t know how to fly.
  15. LTL70
    LTL70 7 November 2012 10: 17 New
    +3
    And who is screaming; "FIRE!!!" That's usually who arranged it! Who would benefit from ditching Lech and his team ????? Most of all, Yaroslav yells, looking for a black cat in a dark room! Russophobia Kaczynski is not just a disease, it is schizophrenia!
  16. Aleks60
    Aleks60 7 November 2012 10: 19 New
    +1
    There is one commander in the sky. Run away. Had a nightmare of the crew ??? Ordinary maximum cost accident.
  17. zz2003_1974
    zz2003_1974 7 November 2012 10: 44 New
    +1
    In general, all their moans are parallel !!! All deserved !!! The commission from heaven (to God) knows why it collapsed !!!
  18. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 7 November 2012 10: 47 New
    0
    Guilty is always guilty
  19. Imperial
    Imperial 7 November 2012 11: 18 New
    0
    I want Kaczynski to be fooled by the death of his brother, God be his judge. Come, investigate. Why is birch rustling in Russia
    Why white-barrels understand everything
    Along the roads, leaning against the wind
    And the leaves are so sadly thrown
  20. Igarr
    Igarr 7 November 2012 11: 21 New
    +1
    What are you ..... heartless, shy ...
    .....
    Surprisingly, there are no complaints about the aircraft yet.
    Like this - flew on a Soviet-Russian plane. This is a nightmare !!!
    The plane was still prepared on the slipway - for an explosion, a fall. It was specially notched in many places - so that the guaranteed kayuk came. And then our sabotage climbed it all from the fairing to the keel, coated it with a quickly disappearing air defense.
    .
    God Rogue marks.
    I believe in it.
  21. stroporez
    stroporez 7 November 2012 11: 39 New
    0
    with such thoroughness, it is necessary to examine not the wreckage of the plane, but the brains of Polish (and ours) leaders
  22. IRBIS
    IRBIS 7 November 2012 11: 46 New
    +4
    Yes, the Poles are clearly not lucky with Smolensk ... Forever, some garbage happens. Yes, and with the neighbors no luck: not only that they themselves are just Poles, so the Russians got into neighbors! Fatal bad luck!
    "Comrades" are Poles, and you Germans seem to be on us, they will understand you, like no other!
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 7 November 2012 14: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: IRBIS
      you Germans please us


      oh sorry Henry no today. he would have been in Russian, but with German pedantry he would have decomposed everything now.
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 7 November 2012 15: 12 New
        +2
        You again! Stop celebrating the removal of Serdyukov! We went to help the Americans. They Obama won again and all Negros African-Americans are gone, they don’t have anyone to feed the people! A loaf of bread is more expensive than Lada Kalina! Come on, come on!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 November 2012 15: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: IRBIS
          A loaf of bread is more expensive than Lada Kalina! Come on, come on!

          Sasha, Obama is doing everything right, is taking leaps and bounds to the collapse of the economy and the country as a whole. In secret and in a whisper, Obama is our man wink
          1. IRBIS
            IRBIS 7 November 2012 15: 35 New
            +3
            Husseinich must be returned! And then everywhere we have only Shoigu! Return unambiguously, and send Serdyukov to the Americans (you can with Chubais). They still have the Pentagon not sold there in the States, the Capitol has suspended.
          2. Tatanka Yotanka
            Tatanka Yotanka 7 November 2012 22: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Obama is our man

            Boris Husseinich - in intelligence
            After all, it was supposed to be married
            And Masha - well, wife, Michelle
            Run to the solarium for ... ..
            wassat
  23. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 7 November 2012 11: 52 New
    +2
    President Kaczynski flew without official approval from the Russian side, and he himself chose the Smolensk airfield as the final destination. He was offered several times to get to the place of mourning events ... through other airports that were better equipped, and weather conditions on April 10, 2010 which were more favorable. AT As a result, Kaczynski himself chose the Warsaw-Smolens routebecause

    Well, what is incomprehensible here. Itself. Investigation conducted. The results were reported. Everything, the question is closed.
    Colleagues, Russia, whoever says a huge, powerful world power. It is not a level for our country to pay attention to yapping Moseks from Poland (and not only) with or without reason. YES WHAT ARE WE CONDITIONING ???? You never know which Honduras is combed! Well, you understand that they are furious. From anger and powerlessness. Yes, let at least ... pu tear to the German cross! But now they will definitely coordinate the routes and listen to the dispatchers.
  24. wax
    wax 7 November 2012 13: 32 New
    +2
    Yaroslav Kachinsky is like the identical twin of Lech Kaczynski (Yaroslav was born 45 minutes earlier). And the fates of identical twins are interconnected. Yaroslav’s dilemma exists, and it is not solvable during his lifetime. It is time to separate politics from psychophysiology.
  25. berimor
    berimor 7 November 2012 15: 03 New
    +6
    I have never met a more vile folk. Unfortunately, in the old days, I had to interact with Zhovnezhami. There is a lot of ambition, for a bosom stone, an ass in patches, but you see - PAN! This polonske yapping at Russia resembles the yapping of a pug at an elephant. But Kachinsky-etta ... there are not even words to express contempt for this political corpse.
  26. PSih2097
    PSih2097 7 November 2012 20: 58 New
    +5
    Political conspiracy around the crash near Smolensk

  27. v53993
    v53993 7 November 2012 21: 47 New
    0
    President Kaczynski flew without official approval from the Russian side, and he himself chose the Smolensk airfield as the final destination

    What flew, why flew, who called something? Only the environment violated how much garbage had to be taken out. After all, it has long been known that an uninvited guest is worse than a nobleman.
    It seems that they crashed only out of harm, to annoy Russia.
    1. cyberdamn
      cyberdamn 7 November 2012 22: 15 New
      0
      Quote: v53993
      After all, it has long been known that an uninvited guest is worse than a nobleman

      tautology however laughing
      a Pole cannot be worse than a Pole!
  28. cyberdamn
    cyberdamn 7 November 2012 22: 14 New
    0
    oh well, everyone knows that Volodya waved that birch, and u, no Poles ...
  29. stroporez
    stroporez 8 November 2012 10: 21 New
    0
    "...... requires the immediate resignation of the Cabinet of Ministers, the top of the Prosecutor General's Office ......" I don’t understand something ................... they can demand from whores , Schaub, they were washed between customers ........ that feeling that Poland wants the next section to be asked for. so, for example, I would come to a neighbor and demand that you don’t do it so that Schaub’s door closes the other way opened ...... Poland did not become impudent --------- Poland about ... left ...............
  30. homosum20
    homosum20 8 November 2012 20: 54 New
    0
    It is necessary to be a jerk so that the entire government, the top of the party and the army are packed in one plane. All the same, God is fair in relation to the Poles.
    1. arkady149
      arkady149 8 November 2012 23: 39 New
      0
      Quote: homosum20
      All the same, God is fair in relation to the Poles.
      Lord doesn’t do garbage.