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The main success of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Marinka was the loss of the ability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to strike at Donetsk directly from the city

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The main success of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Marinka was the loss of the ability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to strike at Donetsk directly from the city

The assault operations of the Russian troops in Maryinka continue. To date, the fighting has moved from Druzhby Avenue, which actually divides the city along the central axis from north to south into two parts, to the western quarters of Maryinka. The Ukrainian military traditionally equip firing points mainly in high-rise buildings. If there are none on the ground, they try to use the private sector with previously created communications in the form of trenches and trenches, allowing them to move from one house to another to fire from a change of position.


To date, Russian artillery is firing at the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, equipped in the area where Shakhtyorskaya, Kashtanovaya, Ivan Franko streets are located. This is the western part of Maryinka. Perhaps the main success of the RF Armed Forces in this area is that the enemy has lost the opportunity to shell Donetsk from the city limits of Maryinka, which was previously carried out by him (the enemy) systematically. At the same time, the enemy traditionally resorted to the tactics of deploying firepower, including MLRS, directly in urban areas, from where he hit Donetsk. The pushing back of the enemy goes further and further to the west, although not as fast as the Donetsk people themselves would like in the first place.

Detachments of the Wagner group operate in the city blocks of Marinka. The fighters of the assault units are moving from house to house, occupying, among other things, those positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for which the artillery has been intensively worked out.



It is extremely important for the Ukrainian troops to retain full control over the highways from Kurakhovo. However, these roads are under fire control by Russian troops. It was during an attempt to transfer equipment to Marinka from Kurakhovo that equipment in the column was destroyed the other day. The Armed Forces of Ukraine lost three infantry fighting vehicles, several army vehicles, including those with personnel and ammunition.
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  2. zorch
    zorch 24 December 2022 09: 11
    +7
    The Nazis hate and kill Russians, they fight for their values, they want to live in the backyards of the West, But let them remember: this is not NATO, this is Russian land!
    1. ARIONkrsk
      ARIONkrsk 24 December 2022 09: 28
      +1
      Quote: zorch
      The Nazis hate and kill Russians, they fight for their values, they want to live in the backyards of the West, But let them remember: this is not NATO, this is Russian land!

      They will live in the backyards of Poland when it swallows up the western part of Ukraine, and we will take our lands and our people, but then the Poles will clean them up, why do they need this evil spirits.
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 December 2022 09: 11
    +7
    What is missing from liquidation
    Vushnikov in the city? Maybe, if there is no population in the city, just burn out the Vushnikov with napalm? I don’t see a more effective means!
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 24 December 2022 13: 10
      0
      What is missing from liquidation
      Vushnikov in the city? Maybe, if there is no population in the city, just burn out the Vushnikov with napalm? I don’t see a more effective means!

      There are no airmen there, only single gunners. Marinka is a damper zone for artillery defense. There is no gun battle. They simply cover our advancing groups with artillery or mortar fire, disperse them and wait for the next ones, and so on for 10 months. And to go around the open field is just suicide.
      1. storm
        storm 25 December 2022 11: 44
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        This means that in the city it is necessary to operate in small groups, and the city itself should be encircled and mopped up.
        Otherwise, all the cities of Donbass will soon turn into ruins.
        All the plans of the USA, the Britons and Zelik for the physical destruction of the cities of Donbass are being implemented with amazing perseverance on both sides, and then who will need such a liberation?
        1. Ded60
          Ded60 25 December 2022 11: 50
          +1
          This means that in the city it is necessary to act in small groups, and to take the city itself into a ring and carry out sweeps. "Urgently report this to the General Staff !!!! They definitely don’t understand anything there !!! Well, at least there are high-level military experts here in VO .... .
          1. storm
            storm 25 December 2022 13: 56
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            . "Urgently report this to the General Staff !!!! They definitely don’t understand anything there !!! Well, at least there are high-level military experts here in VO ..... [/ quote]

            And you seem to be the main specialist according to messages to the headquarters, there are also enough of them here ...
            1. Ded60
              Ded60 25 December 2022 14: 29
              0
              The transition to the individual is an indicator of the inability to conduct a dialogue. And if I didn't start it, then at least I'm not trying to "give some advice on a cosmic scale and cosmic ...." further from the classic.
        2. Konnick
          Konnick 25 December 2022 12: 44
          -1
          This means that in the city it is necessary to operate in small groups, and the city itself should be encircled and mopped up.
          Otherwise, all the cities of Donbass will soon turn into ruins.

          We read a lot of military correspondents ... cleansings ... fortified areas ... and saw enough of TV.
          The only way to quickly take any village is to jam the communications of artillery gunners and observers. As well as electronic suppression of UAVs. But this is difficult to implement with our equipment. Vushniki are better equipped for communication and jamming.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 December 2022 09: 31
    +2
    Judging by the photo of the destruction in Marinka (see on the Internet), there are not so many local residents left there. Therefore, the danger of defeating them on our part is minimal. This I mean that the firing points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine equipped in the residential sector should not be an obstacle to their destruction. But on the ground they know better and they have the right to make the necessary decisions how and with what to suppress (destroy) the enemy.
    1. solar
      solar 24 December 2022 11: 44
      0
      Judging by the photo of the destruction in Marinka (see on the Internet), there are not so many local residents left there.

      Anything happens. In Pavlov's house in Stalingrad, there were almost as many civilians as there were soldiers.
      1. storm
        storm 25 December 2022 12: 18
        -3
        Quote from solar
        Judging by the photo of the destruction in Marinka (see on the Internet), there are not so many local residents left there.

        Anything happens. In Pavlov's house in Stalingrad, there were almost as many civilians as there were soldiers.


        The fact that hundreds of thousands of civilians were not taken out of Stalingrad is a crime of the Stalinist regime and there is no need to cover up with such examples the deaths of mostly Russian civilians in the cities and villages of Donbass.
        There is no need to take an example from the bloody Stalinist regime, just look at the liberated, but completely destroyed Minsk and Krakow, saved at the cost of tens of thousands of lives of Soviet soldiers!
        In Poland, we are enemies number one, and the Britons and the Americans, who turned Dresden into a fiery desert, are friends and allies of the Germans.
        Why are carpet bombardments of Lvov, Ivano-Frankivsk, Lutsk, this "nest of ukrofascism in Ukraine" not carried out in response to the shelling of Donetsk? For whom are these cities preserved, for Poles, Britons, new generations of Bandera?
        Maybe after several retaliatory raids on the Zapadenschina strategic aviation will stop or weaken the shelling of the Donbass and Belgorod region?
        Why not try?
        1. TIR
          TIR 25 December 2022 14: 44
          +1
          Another sufferer of the "bloody Stalinist regime" or a victim of an unsuccessful abortion?
  5. Hanurik
    Hanurik 24 December 2022 09: 32
    +1
    Tell me, maybe I don’t understand something, but what prevents not to storm the NP, but to surround it? Have you forgotten how to maneuver war? If the ukrov managed to go to our rear, why can't ours?
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 24 December 2022 10: 20
      0
      Quote: Hanurik
      Tell me, maybe I don’t understand something, but what prevents not to storm the NP, but to surround it? Have you forgotten how to maneuver war? If the ukrov managed to go to our rear, why can't ours?


      To do this, it is necessary to have a good numerical superiority, since it is not enough to go to the rear, you also need to cover your flanks so as not to be surrounded by yourself.
      1. Petr_Koldunov
        Petr_Koldunov 24 December 2022 10: 52
        +1
        Quote: 1976AG
        To do this, it is necessary to have a good numerical superiority, since it is not enough to go to the rear, you also need to cover your flanks so as not to be surrounded by yourself.

        But it was precisely for this that 330 people were called up, armed, and even prepared! Is not it so?...
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 24 December 2022 11: 28
          0
          Quote: Peter_Koldunov
          Quote: 1976AG
          To do this, it is necessary to have a good numerical superiority, since it is not enough to go to the rear, you also need to cover your flanks so as not to be surrounded by yourself.

          But it was precisely for this that 330 people were called up, armed, and even prepared! Is not it so?...



          Firstly, they are not all at the forefront, and secondly, you need to know how many troops the enemy actually has. They have already passed more than one wave of mobilization. We seem to have about half of the mobilized on the front line, but you need to know exactly where they are. The enemy almost everywhere had a serious superiority in manpower over us, respectively, and we had to strengthen all areas.
      2. Hanurik
        Hanurik 24 December 2022 11: 08
        -1
        Numerical superiority to capture the PGT? This is not Berlin, the city is 3 times smaller than some Mytishchi. Instead of losing hundreds, is it better to lose thousands during the months of trench slaughter?
        1. 1976AG
          1976AG 24 December 2022 11: 33
          +1
          Quote: Hanurik
          Numerical superiority to capture the PGT? This is not Berlin, the city is 3 times smaller than some Mytishchi. Instead of losing hundreds, is it better to lose thousands during the months of trench slaughter?


          Read carefully, it was not just about calling the PGT, but about offensive actions with access to the rear of the enemy, as the Armed Forces of Ukraine did recently. And yes, to capture the settlement, a numerical superiority is also desirable, otherwise we will continue to have an advance of 10 km per month and, as a result, a NWO lasting 20 years.
          1. storm
            storm 25 December 2022 12: 25
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            Quote: 1976AG
            otherwise, we will continue to have an advance of 10 km per month and, as a result, a NWO lasting 20 years.


            Now we have a progress in the Donetsk direction of 10 km in 10 months, is this a success in your opinion?
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 26 December 2022 10: 02
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              Quote: assault
              Quote: 1976AG
              otherwise, we will continue to have an advance of 10 km per month and, as a result, a NWO lasting 20 years.


              Now we have a progress in the Donetsk direction of 10 km in 10 months, is this a success in your opinion?


              Where did I mention success? Please read carefully before commenting.
      3. TIR
        TIR 25 December 2022 14: 51
        -1
        Any concentration of our forces in separate areas is immediately known to the enemy. Here the Hymers begin to work. When nominating, he is already working out art and anti-tank systems in technology. In the event of a breakthrough of the first line of defense, the enemy manages to pull up reserves and strengthen the front during this time. Do not listen to our news. Nobody there will tell you that in terms of intelligence and communications we have remained at the level of the 1960s. That all these rearmaments were fiction. That they plundered everything and were left without a reconnaissance and communications satellite. Even in the cheap segment of reconnaissance UAVs, everything is bad with us. In these segments, we don’t even have criminal negligence, but much worse
    2. Dilettante grandfather
      Dilettante grandfather 24 December 2022 12: 22
      +1
      but what prevents not to storm the NP, but to surround it? Have you forgotten how to maneuver war?
      Haven't unlearned. Most likely, this can lead to unjustified losses on our part, since for the encirclement it is necessary at least to have strong flanks. That is, the encirclement ring should not be conditionally a thin thread, but a wide ledge on the front line. moreover, much more forces must be concentrated on the flanks than the enemy can put up. To keep them without problems when the enemy tries to strike there. I also really dislike the fact that the enemy is being "squeezed out". This contributes to the partial preservation of his living power. But there, at the front, you know better.
  6. solar
    solar 24 December 2022 11: 32
    +2
    The goal of the tenth month of the NWO is to prevent the enemy from attacking Donetsk directly from the city limits. Not yet reached, as I understand it, one of the actual microdistricts of the city - Marinka - was not taken, and when they will be taken is unknown. This is all you need to know about the success of the NWO for the current period.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 24 December 2022 11: 40
      0
      Quote from solar
      The goal of the tenth month of the NWO is to prevent the enemy from attacking Donetsk directly from the city limits. Not yet reached, as I understand it, one of the actual microdistricts of the city - Marinka - was not taken, and when they will be taken is unknown. This is all you need to know about the success of the NWO for the current period.


      Don't forget about Avdiivka. It is, as it were, no closer to Marinka than Donetsk.
  7. storm
    storm 25 December 2022 15: 17
    0
    Quote: TIR
    or a victim of a failed abortion?

    I have no doubt that you have a worthy opinion of yourself ....
  8. storm
    storm 25 December 2022 15: 19
    0
    Quote: Ded60
    The transition to the individual is an indicator of the inability to conduct a dialogue.

    Read your comment, where you switched to personalities in the very first paragraph ....
    So your stone is for you and in the garden ....
  9. storm
    storm 25 December 2022 15: 29
    0
    Quote: Ded60
    I'm not trying to "give some advice on a cosmic scale and

    And who are you to judge the extent of the advice given here?
    Why should forum users perceive your conclusions not as drunken nonsense?
    Or are you a level 77 expert from Warcraft?
    Before discussing others, offer at least something of your own, and we will read here ...