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A course on the basics of military training will appear in Russian universities

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A course on the basics of military training will appear in Russian universities

A course on the basics of military training will be added to the curriculum at Russian universities. The new course is aimed at preparing university students for subsequent military or public service of a different kind. University students will be able to form the competence necessary in case of emergencies and armed conflicts.


Among other topics, the module contains sections on the fundamental directions of Russia's development, international relations, the legal foundations of military service, medical and tactical training.

According to the Ministry of Education and Science, the course on military training was developed jointly with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and will be introduced into the curriculum in higher educational institutions of various profiles.

It is also planned to add an initial military training course to the curriculum of secondary schools as part of the existing classes on the basics of life safety. Such a decision will significantly increase the readiness of secondary school graduates both for military service and for various emergency and emergency situations.

In addition, the updated programs for secondary schools will be supplemented in the course stories, which will feature a new block covering the special military operation in Ukraine.

Earlier, Deputy Prime Minister, Plenipotentiary Representative of the Head of State in the Far Eastern Federal District Yuri Trutnev announced a weakening of the level of military training in universities. A special thematic course covers only 1,4% of university students. Also of concern is the level of DOSSAAF potential, which has decreased by 80 times compared to the period of the USSR.
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  1. antivirus
    antivirus 23 December 2022 17: 41
    0
    Decreased 80 times?
    We know how to count, but to develop and maintain.
    Will manicures be banned in universities? So that when dressing the wound, do not scratch even more.
    1. North Caucasus
      North Caucasus 23 December 2022 18: 02
      +8
      Also of concern is the level of potential of DOSSAAF, which has decreased by 80 times compared to the period of the USSR
      Judging by the news, DOSAAF should deal with defense issues!? Putin's speech is also strange. From it, I realized that the country will not be engaged in defense, as it was in the USSR. It's kind of to the detriment of the economy. Although the United States is so robustly based on the production and trade in weapons! Now he will rake out all the remnants of Soviet-Russian weapons from the market and begin to supply his weapons there on credit. They will try to cut us off with sanctions as a competitor. What are we? NVP in universities? And what about scientific developments, machine park, personnel? We need to revive all this, and not introduce NVP as the basis of defense. We are far from leaders in the market of advanced developments. We assemble a passenger car from China from spare parts on a 50-meter conveyor. We need large enterprises with maximum localization. Will a university graduate cast and sharpen parts? Medicine should be raised with education. Hospitals and doctors should be abundant, and not minimally optimal. We need a lot of medical equipment and our own. And again we run into education and industry. The bourgeois did not overwhelm the army with either Armats, or infrared sights, or bulletproof vests. We need systemic changes in the country, not PR campaigns. For this, it is necessary to change the system from parasitic-capitalist to social. The economy must be planned. We still have a bunch of impotents telling how they will perform sexual exploits.
      1. Normal
        Normal 23 December 2022 18: 47
        +3
        Everything is very true, competently and relevantly reflected in your comment.
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 19: 13
          +2
          Everyone has everything right, and when they make a real choice, they prefer Logan to Priore. Then they are indignant that few people support the Russian industry. All are correct, there are no forces.
          1. Normal
            Normal 23 December 2022 19: 28
            +1
            Why did you say that? I didn't understand to be honest.
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 19: 47
              +1
              Therefore, the interlocutor said a set of wishes that the majority in reality do not follow themselves. How will you raise the automotive industry if the majority, under no circumstances, will buy a domestic car out of conviction.
              I have a lot of "patriots" at my side who patriotically, all other things being equal, in 2008-2011 bought Renault, not AvtoVAZ, even if it was a third cheaper.
              1. Normal
                Normal 23 December 2022 20: 07
                -1
                Well, you give?) And what about buying a car and patriotism? Do you use a Russian smartphone? Do you print here on VO from it? Then what are you actually doing here, as far as I know, now there are no Russian smartphones in a large number, not to mention laptops and so on. You ask me such a question when it is right for you to ask yourself. Everyone uses what he chooses for himself, and this does not fit in with patriotism. I don’t even see the subject of discussion at all, sorry. Your definition of patriotism is somehow strange, sorry, but it looks primitive, I don’t want to offend you in any way, but the truth looks like that. I had one friend who interpreted gender in the same one-sided way when choosing a doctor - a man or a woman. He was extremely negative about male doctors. I really quickly returned her to the ground by asking just one question: are you bleeding, or do you have acute appendicitis with peritonitis, everything happens at night, a male surgeon is on duty, what are your actions? Everything fell into place in a moment.
                1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                  Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 20: 15
                  +1
                  Incorrect example domestic smartphones have not been produced and are not being produced, therefore there is no choice. But "beating your heel in the chest" talking about patriotism and choosing Logan if Priora was a third, in the same configuration, cheaper, and buying just for the nameplate is something! How is this better than
                  1. Normal
                    Normal 23 December 2022 20: 19
                    0
                    All clear. Like peas against the wall. No, I see no reason to engage in dialogue with someone who is not initially ready for a compromise. waste of time. This is the third comment about Logan. All the best.
                    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                      Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 20: 37
                      +1
                      Yes Yes..
                      But the Uzbeks, living in Russia, buy exclusively DEUs, and the Ukrainians Chevrolet Cruz and Lanos, who were going to Ukraine. Don't believe me, ask. But we (some of us) are special, we despise the domestic auto industry.
                      1. Deon59
                        Deon59 24 December 2022 20: 36
                        -1
                        And why love the domestic auto industry, for the fact that it is almost forcibly forced to buy. You have money for a Toyota jeep, but as a patriot, choose the UAZ Patriot. As the Czech woman said about the night wolves who ride Harleys, why not Soviet but American motorcycles.
                  2. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 23 December 2022 21: 05
                    +1
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

                    Where is your homeland ? - My Motherland is in my Heart
                    In any corner of the World - I am part of my Motherland.
                    good
                2. Barberry25
                  Barberry25 28 December 2022 08: 58
                  0
                  Well, in general, Sergey is right, If you want a domestic analogue of the product, then you need to buy it, And don’t wait for magic when your uncle arrives in a blue helicopter and creates at least a car. Although the smartphone is completely from domestic components and at a price lower than Chinese. , which, in fact, in the current realities, they began to do as NECESSARY, i.e. they took the available components, some of them have already been localized, others have begun .. And what is the result? Everyone is hysterical "why is it more expensive than the Chinese and not completely from our components?! Give us this money, we will collect it ourselves!" .. Only no one why it doesn't collect.
      2. AAK
        AAK 23 December 2022 18: 59
        +3
        Alas, colleague, we, to our deep regret, also need NVP in schools and military departments in universities, research institutes in the field of defense and high technologies, advanced machine tool building, electronics, precision mechanics, advanced aircraft-ship-auto-engines ... and so on structure, but who will do it and in what time? Otherwise, a fat northern fox will come to the state ...
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 24 December 2022 00: 30
        0
        Quote: North Caucasus
        What are we? NVP in universities? And what about scientific developments, machine park, personnel? We need to revive all this, and not introduce NVP

        Well, one doesn't interfere with the other.
        What is wrong with the fact that the future engineer will receive a minimum level of knowledge in shooting, handling weapons and medical training? winked
  2. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 23 December 2022 17: 43
    +6
    University students will be able to form competence
    Who came up with the idea of ​​"forming competencies" instead of "gaining knowledge and skills"? At school, we went to the NVP in formation in green shirts, shot from the heart in the shooting range in the basement of the school from "small things", dismantled and assembled "Kalash" for a while, saw fat-free dummies of grenades, mines (up to anti-tank). They even went to the shooting range, three single shots and seven bursts of AK-47s fired.

    I came into the army holding a machine gun in my hands, a little able to go to the canteen in an organized herd. Did I join the army with knowledge and basic skills, or with "formed competence"?

    After the army (we, like everyone else, were taken after the first year), I came to the institute. Recovered. We were taken to the military department at will, if you wanted to be not a senior sergeant, but a reserve lieutenant. For ordinary sergeants in the reserve, the day of the military department is a day off. What do you think we chose?
    And what could a lieutenant colonel teach me, with an order and two military medals (not counting "From the grateful Afghan people" and other nonsense), who served as part of an assault unit, who received his stars by wiping chairs in military registration and enlistment offices and at military departments?

    What am I doing?
    To the fact that either we need to do this, like our military instructor at school, or not to arrange profanity, which we had at the institute.

    [i] Py.Sy. Everything I described happened at the time of the Humpback Dog. Some (we) came, others left, but did not serve, the third did not go. In general, a mess.[
    Before that, everyone carefully, regardless of military service, went to the "military commissar" and with a diploma received two "small ones for epaulettes". / i]
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 23 December 2022 17: 54
      +1
      what Yesterday's victims of the Unified State Examination and the Bologna system .. In fact, in Russian you can express yourself ..
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 23 December 2022 18: 32
        0
        In fact, in Russian you can express ..

        It's really written well, very difficult. It is easier to restore the NVP in schools, and to return the Military departments in universities with the training of reserve lieutenants. We'll get to it anyway. Shoigu spoke about the restoration of the army-division-regiment-battalion system, so it will be timely.
      2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 19: 33
        +3
        You are very much mistaken, very much. Most of today's teenagers are very advanced and erudite.
        I will give just one, but a very sad example.
        This is a tragedy at Xiam Lake. So there it was the teenagers who protested against going out on boats after looking at the weather on the Internet, and they tried to call for help. And the idiots and criminals turned out to be adults, some aged, completely unaware of the situation and the elements on the ground.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 23 December 2022 19: 48
          +1
          Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
          This is a tragedy at Xiam Lake.

          I'll tell you about the usual grumbling of old people
          These were the people of our time!
          Not that the current tribe ...

          It so happened, through my mother, a university teacher and my wife, who is related to higher and secondary education, I know some of the details of that tragedy.
          I tell you honestly - in my time no one would have died. They knew how to swim, keep warm, support life ..
          He taught this to his son.
          And (he already said something here) he took two of his classmates fishing at the request of his son (it was a few years ago) - he cursed everything. Walking through the forest for an hour and a half with an ax and not finding firewood for a fire for the night ... I don’t talk about the “taiga” or “pioneer snowdrift” - for them this is higher mathematics ... We didn’t find firewood for the fire to warm up the carcass in jars .. With a knife unable to open it. Without a lighter, they don’t know how to make a fire with one hunting match - the boxes, bastards, were burned in vain.

          Therefore, his son has the Order of Courage and he is a lieutenant of the Airborne Forces in Ukraine, and they are managers in chain supermarkets.

          Who studied what ...
          1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
            Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 20: 03
            +4
            I have a different idea of ​​knowledge. Knowledge, in this case, is to demand a bulletproof vest (sorry, a life jacket), if it was not possible to convince the organizers that the wind is more than 3-4 m / s, this is just horror on the water and scare the aunt who refused to accept the challenge, convincing her that that her life will inevitably change for the worse.
    2. vovochkarzhevsky
      vovochkarzhevsky 23 December 2022 18: 17
      +5
      And what could a lieutenant colonel teach me, with an order and two military medals (not counting "From the grateful Afghan people" and other nonsense), who served as part of an assault unit, who received his stars by wiping chairs in military registration and enlistment offices and at military departments?


      How what? VUS according to the profile of the institute. And in military departments, lieutenant colonels, as a rule, find themselves after they receive "fit for non-combatant".
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 December 2022 19: 10
        +2
        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
        And in military departments, lieutenant colonels, as a rule, find themselves after they receive "fit for non-combatant".

        Our head of the department was fit for a "paper drill" from a lieutenant and a lieutenant colonel, who gives all his strength to the dacha, is hardly a "unfit drill".
        I might not have known, but I am from a military family and my father (also, by the way, a lieutenant colonel, but who taught in completely different places and other science) knew everything about our head of the department ..
        Of course, "officer honor", "at the lowest ranks" ... Nothing discrediting - just a service biography. But my father didn't say much.
        I used to understand not what he says, but what he is silent about.

        A combatant is not fit - this is our military instructor at school. Artilleryman, half-deaf, but "you pull the rope with your finger - and this England will be flushed down the toilet!" His words... Blessed memory of a soldier.
        1. vovochkarzhevsky
          vovochkarzhevsky 23 December 2022 20: 55
          +3
          Our head of the department was fit for a "paper drill" from a lieutenant and a lieutenant colonel, who gives all his strength to the dacha, is hardly a "unfit drill".
          I might not have known, but I am from a military family and my father (also, by the way, a lieutenant colonel, but who taught in completely different places and other science) knew everything about our head of the department ..
          Of course, "officer honor", "at the lowest ranks" ... Nothing discrediting - just a service biography. But my father didn't say much.
          I used to understand not what he says, but what he is silent about.


          You are fake though. lol For example, I have very strong doubts that your father could have access to the personal file of the teacher you mentioned.
          By the way, the military department in the USSR was mandatory and did not depend on the wishes of the student. It could be thrown only together with the institute.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 24 December 2022 10: 27
            -1
            Lieutenant Colonel of the Airborne Forces, who participated in operations that we still don’t know everything about? Do you understand access to the secrecy of my father and the draft board?

            And about the "military commissar" of the late 80s, you don't tell me the mayza. As it was - and outlined.
            Ordinary Soviet building institute. If you then ALREADY studied in the American way, then the flag in your hands and a drum around your neck. Yes .. Another locomotive towards ...
            And I returned alive from Afghanistan when I returned. And with you, a student in life, there is absolutely no desire to discuss the facts of my biography.
            SAID HOW IT WAS AND EVERYTHING IN FIG. My order and medals, my university diploma - what else is needed to prove my innocence to the "military commissar" of my institute.

            Guards senior sergeant of the reserve says to all of you, "jackets", "Attention! Alignment with the Banner Solemn march, one linear distance ..." What do you know about those boxes? What do you know about what was in those drawers of the military registration and enlistment office?

            And yes ..

            It sucks to argue when you don't know. I can quit VO for good tomorrow. But there was a father, and now I'm instead of him ...,

            Eat square grapes from the store - they lay longer on the windowsill. Probably. sweet...
            1. vovochkarzhevsky
              vovochkarzhevsky 24 December 2022 12: 22
              0
              So it turns out that I am somehow more knowledgeable in military affairs than the senior sergeant of the guard. For example, that privacy access concerns only immediate official duties. Or as they say in the army, in terms of. yes
              By the way, I did not understand where you served, either in the engineering troops, or in the airmobile.
              And yes, in Afghanistan, the Motherland did not spoil much with awards. Especially urgent service.
              Although there have been cases, there are already two options here, either a real hero, or, more often, closeness to the leadership. request
      2. Deon59
        Deon59 24 December 2022 20: 42
        0
        Not a fact, after I retired, I came to get a job at the military department in 1998, so everything was packed there. All the same after the department.
        1. vovochkarzhevsky
          vovochkarzhevsky 24 December 2022 20: 50
          0
          In 1998? So this is RF. Besides, by whom is it hammered, by those in the service, or by the reserve?
    3. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 19: 22
      +4
      NVP at school is good, it went through about the same thing, and the shooting range, and everything else. But the reality turned out to be different. At competitions, real and not educational, I got a rifle from which I knocked down the target mount. It turned out that someone shot down the sight, it ended very badly.
      In the army, the situation is similar, the first firing from a machine gun turned out to be all by, again, an unsighted weapon.
      The real skill turned out to be not in the ability to shoot, this can be learned at the Central Park of Culture and Culture from an air gun, but in the ability to prepare a weapon and assess its condition.
      The whole question is what and how to teach.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 December 2022 19: 34
        +2
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        NVP at school is good, it went through about the same thing, and the shooting range, and everything else. But the reality turned out to be different.

        Naturally, Sergei Alexandrovich!
        But the NVP at school gives the BASICS, and the rest, for example, I understood in the training. And he came to the troops, to the air assault brigade, and everything is completely different.
        But BASE, at least to disassemble and assemble an assault rifle and 10 rounds of ammunition, is NVP.
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 19: 53
          +3
          I will continue to consider the school NVP studied by me and the course of Civil Defense at the university as a profanity due to the limited topics covered and the wretched approach to learning.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 23 December 2022 20: 23
            0
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            I will continue to consider the school NVP studied by me and the course of Civil Defense at the university as a profanity due to the limited topics covered and the wretched approach to learning.

            Answer a little...
            I didn’t have this, but I also sent boys to the Union in zinc. Not for the fact that they taught the NVP poorly, but for the fact that it happened ...
            And my military instructor taught me how to disassemble and assemble the machine and what thing to pull from the F-1 ... He has a good memory from all of us, then he passed through his ferocious paws.
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 20: 26
              +1
              I have a lot to say in response, but I'm afraid I'll spoil the topic, another time.
              For, and the NVP, and the Civil Defense and the training of reserve officers, but in a very different way.
              r.s. on Taktik-Media, veterans were almost invited to share their experience, but there is such a meager choice, and they say that someone else will tell for them.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 24 December 2022 09: 22
                0
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                For, and NVP, and Civil Defense and the training of reserve officers

                I would, Sergei Alexandrovich, make a strong distinction between everyone. Wow you listed. From my experience
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 23 December 2022 20: 21
          -1
          The base is what to live for and the purpose of life.
          In PM "would my native country be alive ..."
          Without the term patriotism
        3. vovochkarzhevsky
          vovochkarzhevsky 23 December 2022 20: 59
          +1
          But the NVP at school gives the BASICS, and the rest, for example, I understood in the training. And he came to the troops, to the air assault brigade, and everything is completely different.


          Before that, you said that you served in the engineering troops. yes
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 23 December 2022 19: 44
      +1
      I remember the teacher nvp Sukharev Boris Nikolaevich.
      He fiddled with us as a teacher of early classes. Retiree. Lame.
      Goodness and kindness was enough for all slobs
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 24 December 2022 08: 39
        +1
        Quote: antivirus
        I remember the teacher nvp Sukharev Boris Nikolaevich.
        He fiddled with us as a teacher of early classes. Retiree. Lame.
        Goodness and kindness was enough for all slobs

        Where can I put a thousand "pluses" to your Boris Nikolayevich?

        From people like your Boris Nikolayevich, like my deaf artillery lieutenant colonel - from there we are the same, sovietand grew up.
    5. boni592807
      boni592807 23 December 2022 21: 41
      -1
      Zoldat_A (Igor, son of Alexei, Russian soldier). Today, 17:43. NEW - "... Who came up with the idea of ​​"forming competencies" instead of "gaining knowledge and skills"? .."

      Unfortunately you are right. but. this has long been a massive introduction of the "new guskoy mova". like Father Krantsev. No.

      But the opus in the article "admires" belay -"...Same basic military training course planned to be added to the secondary school curriculum in the framework of already existing classes on the basics of life safety. laughing Such a decision will significantly increase the readiness of secondary school graduates both for military service and for various emergency and emergency situations ... " belay

      It seems that the calculation for the full UO of the managers and, in their understanding, "castle men"( those. citizens of the Russian Federation). bully And .. what was in the OBZH so far lol and why repeatedly asked to teach the course of the NVP under the USSR on topics. hours. practical training и with that course castrato. what is now. fool и about which so successfully declare. how about reaching and implementing. bully It seems that the "dear" Russians were again "drawn FIGU" - an Indian hut. bully crying
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 24 December 2022 09: 09
        0
        Quote: boni592807
        Sorry you are right.

        Exit???
        Switch to petty-bourgeois, as 130 years ago, home education? At home explain to the offspring what and why?

        My son went to a regular school. To say that my hair sometimes stood on end - nothing to say. He got drunk, burned his studies in the stove, told his son that the best father

        Yes, I told my son and showed not that and much more than at school. Therefore, my son is a company commander in the Donbass, a holder of the Order of Courage (This is the Order of Glory in our opinion, then I get confused in the degrees. Or the Red Star - in our family, military orders-medals do not fit in our pocket. There are six great-grandfather "Georges".

        I have Red Star. My father has three on his tunic. I heard a lot of opinions - and this new Order of Courage, which was given to my son, how does it correlate with the Red Star?

        The son went to school - a drunken father (I, that is) burned textbooks in the stove.
        There are three teachers in the house - my mother, her sister, my wife somehow learned to count to a hundred and entered Ryazan ....

        But not everyone has the opportunity. I studied in an ordinary, in a working-class area, school.
        Until now, my teachers (they are all well over 80) receive additional pensions. Through social security he made it like some kind of social payment - the sister-chief accountant knows. Well, so that my teachers don't go hungry.
  3. lubesky
    lubesky 23 December 2022 17: 45
    +2
    Well, since the university, then this is the nearest reserve component. They taught me in the army - do not listen to words, follow the maneuvers and the movement of fuel and lubricants
  4. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 23 December 2022 17: 52
    +4
    First we destroy, and when it itchs, we urgently need to resume wassat what did they count on when the NVP was removed? ... I’m already silent about the labor lesson. The youth of a rusty nail, without tapping before it, do not know how to hammer in their fingers laughing
    1. North Caucasus
      North Caucasus 23 December 2022 18: 19
      +3
      Aha! NVP! Do you remember Serdyukov? Hero of Russia! Who gave him the command to optimize the army? Although the wave of optimization has touched everything, including wages, pensioners, medicine, the population, industries, and so on. And the question arises. Why did all this have to be done? To then show heroism in the revival? Or is it from stupidity, or from corruption, or from prudence?
      1. vitalm
        vitalm 23 December 2022 19: 59
        +1
        The GDP said to Shvaba - "We are working in unison", the collapse of the Civil Code is coming and nothing else. They promised to see him a place with his family in the "golden billion".
        No one is going to restore anything, but what the zomboyaschik shows that they have opened a new plant or a cut (deposit) will go into the pocket of the oligarch. But they trumpet as an achievement of the country
  5. Luka Nord
    Luka Nord 23 December 2022 18: 05
    0
    Give the restoration of NVP in schools! Country in danger
    1. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 23 December 2022 18: 26
      +1
      it's too late already, the youth from tik tok will score on this nvp
      1. Luka Nord
        Luka Nord 23 December 2022 20: 07
        -1
        Quote: Ryaruav
        it's too late already, the youth from tik tok will score on this nvp

        It depends on what powers the teacher will have !!! It's time to extinguish these animals in schools hard !!!! And then they are used to mocking women as teachers (I know what I'm saying)))
        I remember we had an NVP-shnik Ryavknet for the whole school and everyone scattered around the classes and sat quietly, even the teachers)))) Personnel officer !!!
    2. North Caucasus
      North Caucasus 23 December 2022 18: 26
      +1
      One NVP will not save the country. We need a system focused on the interests of society. Capitalism is focused on the interests of a narrow circle of people. For the rise of the country, educated people are needed, and for this it is necessary to teach from infancy. We need a healthy nation. To do this, it is necessary not to optimize, but to raise medicine. We need teachers of medicine, medical equipment, medical and rehabilitation institutions. This requires an industry where people must be taught, treated for effective work. Industry needs scientific developments that will make scientists trained by competent teachers and healthy scientists thanks to medicine. This is the question that comes together.
      1. Luka Nord
        Luka Nord 23 December 2022 20: 25
        +2
        Quote: North Caucasus
        One NVP will not save the country. We need a system focused on the interests of society.

        The DOSAF system, here the personnel for the Army and Navy were well equipped! And in general, the boys were taught the male profession to understand technology and military affairs
        In a small village, this organization was well equipped and everything was free for boys ..
        That's what you need to strive for !!!
        1. North Caucasus
          North Caucasus 23 December 2022 20: 50
          0
          Agree with comment. But only DOSAAF cannot live on its own. Self-financed? You won't get far on it alone. Military science is not only the study of the machine gun. People are graduating from military schools and academies! Science and production work for the army. There cannot be a strong and modern army without science and production. Take Afghanistan. Everyone has been studying weapons since childhood. But there is no science and industry. Nobody won them? Well, they were not allowed to rise technologically. And this is the most important thing in the modern world. Today, they are trying to drive Europe into the Stone Age, trying to de-industrialize. On the outskirts of the patriotic frenzy. So what? How did its inhabitants glorify it, besides the slogan **Glory to Ukraine**?
          1. Luka Nord
            Luka Nord 23 December 2022 21: 11
            +2
            Quote: North Caucasus
            Agree with comment. But only DOSAAF cannot live on its own. Self-financed?

            Stamps were sold at DOSFA And it was a general movement!
            And there were many of them, and in general the state was very interested in this matter. The boys were delighted !!! Karts , air fleet , modeling technique, etc.
            And this happened in every little village in the USSR!
            That’s the main thing hi They were taught to create and believe in the best in human essence .. Magazines, newspapers, etc. They called on the youth. LIVE, CREATE, INVENT!
            That was the essence of that society! .Now we are trying to restore everything, but
            1. North Caucasus
              North Caucasus 23 December 2022 22: 52
              0
              Yes! It was everything! Stupid people created all this. DOSAAF lotteries were sold. Voluntary Society for Assistance to the Army Aviation and Navy! True, voluntary donations alone cannot buy all the equipment for training. But there was help. In the same flying club, one could learn to fly an airplane. Truth on screw. How many drivers have been trained in a driving school!
  6. UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 23 December 2022 18: 13
    +1
    Among other topics, the module contains sections on the fundamental directions of Russia's development, international relations, the legal foundations of military service, medical and tactical training.

    Well, that is, notes on the public-state, memorization of charters and drill. Looks like I didn't forget anything. Now let's defeat all the adversaries!
  7. vvn_vl
    vvn_vl 23 December 2022 18: 21
    -2
    and who will teach? graduates of construction institutes?
  8. 1razvgod
    1razvgod 23 December 2022 18: 22
    -1
    What they will do in NVP lessons is a big question, there is a school there, they can push an object like for show, in some ministries we did our direct duties carelessly what then to demand from the school. Moreover, if you take it seriously, then the classes must be equipped, there must be equipment for the students to hold in their hands, and not only a machine gun and grenades and mines, etc., there must be a shooting range, practice is needed, I'm afraid everything will come down to studying independent posters with drill training. It should also be a desire to do it locally + funds
  9. Elephant
    Elephant 23 December 2022 19: 06
    -1
    At school, at the NVP, you need to learn the basics and in the Army to hone your skills as much as possible for at least 2 years! And in institutions it is more profanation. Once upon a time in the SA these were called "jackets". It is more expedient to allocate additional funds instead of universities to the development of military schools, where to train real military specialists
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 19: 41
      +1
      Extremely honest. Do you want to preserve the exclusivity and uniqueness of your knowledge? This approach also has the right to life, but not on a national scale. Well, at least you don’t offer to replace the gears in the machines after your shift, as some workers did in order to maintain their exclusivity.
  10. Rustic
    Rustic 23 December 2022 19: 11
    -1
    Among other topics, the module contains sections on the fundamental directions of Russia's development, international relations, the legal foundations of military service, medical and tactical training.
    As always, everything is exactly through one place topsy-turvy. First parades, then posters, but for the rest, they can teach something useful. Instead of first teaching how not to be wounded, then what to do if you are nevertheless wounded, and at the end, who is right and who is not. And politics in general can not be taught, or at least it should be in some other course.
  11. Zadok
    Zadok 23 December 2022 20: 09
    -1
    where did the soldier go? we were not loaded with stepping and "Russia Forward" there, but with materiel and training on simulators. mid 90s

    let them march in schools, if you want so (the fizra also participated). moreover, in my time they taught AKM to disassemble and assemble, and quickly apply a gas mask, and use a dosimeter, and there was a shooting range where they shot from small things. but only mid 80's

    some kind of another edinorastovsky nonsense
  12. Oleg Ogorod
    Oleg Ogorod 23 December 2022 21: 03
    +1
    God forgive me to read all this nonsense and not swear ...
    First, the institution of military schools needs to be reformed. For 4 years they have been preparing a lieutenant - the commander of a motorized rifle platoon or the commander of an artillery gun.
    Are you seriously? 4 years? Yes, in four years you can prepare a hardened MTR guru. By special training. Rimbaud. Already with practice.
    A lieutenant can be trained at the most for a year, maybe two, so that he is physically stronger. If in peacetime, flying can be trained to the captain in the service, then to the major. Wartime, so if he remains alive, he himself will learn everything military.
    What they are doing now for 4 years is a mystery without meaning. Well, before, apart from the higher mathematics of integrals, Marxism-Leninism was taught, but now?
    This is to the fact that some complain that some of our military schools have been closed. Yes, there are a lot of them, only it is necessary to increase the effectiveness of their training, including by reducing the training time.
    Even in the Air Defense Forces, the Strategic Missile Forces, the Navy, such long training periods are not needed. Even the paratroopers.
    Pilots are a little different. Yes, and they should study more after graduation.
    And we passed the NVP already in the USSR. Nonsense, for retired military jobs only jobs.
    The USSR had a huge army. But they were not taught to fight in it. From the word at all. He goes to outfits and guards, this is not to fight. To work for officers in their household is not to fight. Building, cleaning, marching, hemming collars, rubbing the floor in the barracks with mastic, this is not preparing to fight.
    Many generals of the Moscow Region, very many, have long needed to be sent to rest, or especially zealous to the front line.
    Cadres decide everything, and if they are taught the way they were taught in the USSR, then victories will be given at too high a price.
  13. Shumi2010
    Shumi2010 23 December 2022 21: 09
    0
    at the beginning of the 90s, a Trudovik in our country hung a portrait of Zhukov in the office of labor and conducted military-political conversations in defiance of the situation in the country
  14. Tank hard
    Tank hard 23 December 2022 22: 34
    0
    If there is a material base, there will be business. It's just words, it's just words...
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 23: 03
      +1
      Not always. What material base is needed to learn how to determine the distance to the target by thousandths?
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 23 December 2022 23: 13
        0
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        Not always. What material base is needed to learn how to determine the distance to the target by thousandths?

        Will you personally teach this for "free"?)) Krasava. Where can you get so many altruists when there is not enough "for money"?))
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 23 December 2022 23: 37
        -1
        Furthermore. My son is 16 years old. He first studied in one school, now in another. And in both there was, and there is no NVP as a subject. Moreover, there is nothing to prepare for handling a carbine. There are not only SHPs, but even mock-ups... And how much does a mock-up cost? Rubles 20 ... And how can you learn to disassemble, assemble a carbine without it? A tab, and work with both hands in different positions? Learn to adjoin the store in at least two options? OBZh is led by a part-time biology teacher, a woman-God's dandelion. Do you really think she can teach teenagers how to use a carbine? Why should they
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        to determine the distance to the target by thousandths?

        if they don't know what a carbine is? I'm tired of "intellectuals" ...
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 23 December 2022 23: 41
          +1
          Sorry, dear, I didn’t immediately notice that from where carbines are practiced, there will be no more questions.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 23 December 2022 23: 49
            -1
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            Sorry dear, I didn’t pay attention right away that from where carbines practice,

            And what did you think, dear, that the NVP at the school-university is immediately a UAV? Nothing you do, you use zaboristoe ...))
  15. Hindu
    Hindu 24 December 2022 01: 06
    0
    I'll be a little busy.
    And why is there no military training course in the curriculum of the University of Massachusetts??
    Maybe that's why the Zuckerbergs and Masks come to light from American students?
    And I understand they don't need it. All around them are friends. And there are only partners around the perimeter of the Russian Federation.
    So maybe the root is to have friends around you?
    How to do it? Oh, here complex, multifaceted, long-term work must be carried out in order to create an attractive image of your system.
    Come on, some bullshit .... we'd better get ready to live when there are enemies around.