After Senkak Japanese take up the Kuril Islands?

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The Japanese newspaper Yomiuri Shimbun reports that the Japanese government is doing its utmost to conclude a new treaty on more active military-technical cooperation with the United States of America. It is reported that the basic principle of the defense strategy for combining the efforts of the United States and the Land of the Rising Sun was formulated as early as the end of the 70-s of the last century, when the Japanese considered North Korea, which is gaining military momentum, as the main threat. Today, according to Yomiuri Shimbun, the Japanese authorities are discussing with Washington the problem of the emergence of new threats in the region. For obvious reasons, such threats are not directly named, but one can easily guess that, in addition to Russia, Tokyo sees the People’s Republic of China as its main opponent in East Asia.

No official reaction on the reorganization of military cooperation between the United States and Japan has yet been received from the American capital, but as a confirmation of the idea that the Americans are ready to accept the proposals of the Japanese authorities, joint exercises in the East China Sea can serve. Note the largest in all recent years.

It is possible that if the US-Japan naval exercises were held in this region 5-6 years ago, then this information could hardly have caused a stir. But the exercises are held at the very moment when bilateral relations between China and Japan were strained to the limit because of the disputed Senkaku Islands (Diaoyu), which are located precisely in the East China Sea. Accident? Well, unless in the modern world such kind of accidents can occur ...

In general, the American and Japanese warships decided to demonstrate to the obstinate Chinese that the friendship between Tokyo and Washington is growing day by day ... A truly impressive number of troops from both sides are involved in the exercises: 10 thousands of Americans and over 35 thousands of Japanese. Initially, it was reported that the combined landing force could even land on the disputed uninhabited islands, but then they refused this idea because they didn’t even want to experience the immediate fire of Chinese dragon’s breath in such comrades as Tokyo and Washington. That is why during the exercise is not called the main goal of these maneuvers. The published materials state that the exercises are directed against a certain hypothetical adversary. And after all, how difficult it is to guess who this enemy is, if the exercises are in close proximity to the disputed islands ...

It is noteworthy that in the current Japanese government, which the Japanese themselves often call too nationalistic, during the joint exercises in the East China Sea they state that it would be time to start addressing the Northern Territories issue. How is the official Tokyo going to solve the issue of the "Northern Territories"? Some political scientists decided that Japan could go the same way as today - the way of joint exercises near the South Kuriles, together with the US military to demonstrate their ambiguous intentions. However, one of the Japanese publications, Nihon Keijai Shimbun, reveals a different possibility of pressure on Russia from official Tokyo.

The journalists of Nihon Keizai Shimbun decided to follow the conspiracy path and told their readers that, in principle, it would be possible to agree with Russia for a long time if it were not for China ... The publication refers to some kind of security agreement between Russia and Japan, which journalists are sure that it is direct evidence that Japan could well now rely on the Southern Kurils - the Northern Territories. They say that Moscow doesn’t give a “goodwill gesture” only to Beijing, which is advantageous to have in the region a state leading a territorial dispute with Japan. Well, the original version, you will not say anything ...

That is, it turns out that in Japan, some mass media are trying to sow on public soil the idea that the Kuril issue will be resolved when it is decided by Senkak (Diaoyu). According to this state of affairs, Japan supposedly, with the help of its main ally (the United States of America), deal with China, finally returning the islands to its bosom, and the Russians after that will smoke the Kuriles themselves on a blue platter ...

Against this background, most of the fresh Japanese newspapers, one way or another, loyal to the current cabinet of ministers, came up with articles in which the authors describe China’s “aggression” against Senkaku. The published materials show the determination of the Japanese authorities, who are trying to put the Chinese “aggression” on the most serious barrier. As such a barrier, it is precisely the strengthening of military cooperation with the United States, which themselves are interested in putting pressure on China, is seen.

However, the pro-government Japanese press is not all of Japan. Many representatives of the Japanese public do not see anything good in the fact that the acting Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda flirts too much with the Americans. People on the streets of Japanese cities increasingly began to go on demonstrations, which are far from being devoted to the struggle for the "Southern" or "Northern Territories", but for the normalization of relations with their closest neighbors. The slogans that the US military bases on the Ryukyu Islands (Japan) would not increase the economic efficiency of the Land of the Rising Sun began to appear after the announcement of serious problems in the financial system of this country since the beginning of the confrontation with China. In addition, ordinary Japanese people point out to the authorities atrocities of American servicemen in Okinawa: rape and beating of local residents. Expansion of US military bases in southern Japan must be stopped, as residents of large Japanese cities say on protest actions. Moreover, the Japanese also do not forget to mention the negative economic component of the opposition with the People's Republic of China.

Naturally, the American and Japanese economies would be able to “seduce” the Chinese, but today it is obviously not beneficial for any of the parties. The Chinese economy, let's say, is tied up with the lion's share of imports both in the United States and in Japan.

In this regard, it can be said that all these mass exercises only look like a big "formidable" empty shell, which is not capable of turning into a real military confrontation. After all, as soon as for Senkaku (Djaoydao) the first shots will sound (if it comes to this), the hydra of the economic crisis may well absorb one of the most rapidly developing regions of the world. And there and close to the new global recession.

If Prime Noda will turn a blind eye to this, then he may very well soon say goodbye to his chair. After all, often in the world stories there have been episodes when an overly active politician, trying to get new territories, was forced to either refuse to continue his political career, or to lose what the country already had territorially by that time.
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  1. +19
    7 November 2012 08: 10
    I wonder how the American and Japanese economies will be able to rationalize China. If China merges the American paper and it will quickly rationalize the states themselves. The Japanese can dream about a lot, but the Amers have their own interests and Japan is just a tool.
    1. +10
      7 November 2012 08: 22
      relations between China and Japan have escalated to the limit because of the disputed Senkaku Islands (Diaoyu)


      if China captures these islands without unnecessary snot, Japan will have no choice but to wipe it off .. forces are not equal
      1. Slayer
        +10
        7 November 2012 09: 24
        Quote: Civil
        if China captures these islands without unnecessary snot, Japan will have no choice but to wipe it off .. forces are not equal

        it depends on what forces, if the Navy then the Japs of good Lyuli pile on the Chinese, if on land then vice versa)))
        1. +5
          7 November 2012 10: 05
          I agree. In the Seas and Oceans, the Japanese are second in power to the Americans in the world.
          1. rolik
            -1
            7 November 2012 12: 07
            But what about Britain))))) they agree with this rating)))
        2. 0
          7 November 2012 10: 22
          Slayer,

          it’s a matter of types of sun, but the fact that a goose a pig is not a comrade,
          1. Kaa
            +9
            7 November 2012 11: 24
            Quote: Civil
            a goose a pig is not a friend,

            Dear Hokkaido! I'm you Honshu. For your Shikoku, I am Kyushu! And what the Chinese will do for Senkaku, which byak or kaku, one can only guess that the Japanese cannot understand without a seppuku ... wassat
        3. Lucky
          0
          7 November 2012 11: 32
          And if in the sky?
          1. +6
            7 November 2012 11: 44
            after that the Russians will present the Kuril Islands themselves on a silver platter..... the operation to return the Kuril Islands to Japan will end with the addition of new islands in Russia ...... such is the plastic surgery in Russian
            1. Trofimov174
              +6
              7 November 2012 12: 50
              Vesti 2015: During a business tour of the country, Vladimir Vladimirovich stopped in the Japanese Far East Region to participate in the opening of a new AvtoVAZ plant on the island of Hokkaido. laughing
      2. Hemul
        +1
        9 November 2012 00: 50
        I absolutely agree.
        I also do not understand why Russia does not pose the same ultimatums as the USA, for example, does. Why do we have no complaints to anyone? Why do we agree with everything, and the rest are asleep and see how fatherfat a piece fatter? Maybe it's worth presenting the United States for Alaska? France for Napoleon, Germany for Hitler, the rest of the gay men in 1917? You can go on endlessly, but this passivity surprises me. What the hell is a Russian character or a Russian government?
        1. mladenec
          +1
          9 November 2012 10: 19
          Your question:
          I also do not understand why Russia does not pose the same ultimatums as the USA, for example, does.


          Our answer:
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  2. beech
    +5
    7 November 2012 08: 25
    let it bite, I don't mind
    1. alatau_09
      +11
      7 November 2012 09: 56
      if one leg of the usas helping the frightened Jews pops up in Iran, the other leg is encircled by the Japanese at the Chinese gate, the groin of the Jews will not be covered - it will hurt from any push ... legs can buckle and press the sticky ones to the ground. winked
    2. +2
      7 November 2012 10: 07
      Quote: beech

      let it bite, I don't mind

      Oh well! Let's set the East on fire again! And we will live between 3 hot regions, Gay Europe and the Arctic. Do we need it? The wrong time has come and we are not a country for the proverb to suit us - "My house is on the edge, I don't know anything about my life."
      1. Roman A
        +3
        7 November 2012 11: 33
        Quote: Manager
        Oh well! Let's set the East on fire again! And we will live between 3 hot regions, Gay Europe and the Arctic. Do we need it? The wrong time has come and we are not a country for the proverb to suit us - "My house is on the edge, I don't know anything about my life."

        It’s for sure a military party near the borders of Russia that China will not bring us anything good for the time being, and I don’t even know there. If I part this disco on another island, that is, the USA, then I’m not averse to this show
    3. Lucky
      +1
      7 November 2012 11: 32
      I am for !!!)))
  3. +2
    7 November 2012 08: 25
    shish with oil to the Japanese, not the Kuril Islands! They ran right on them on a plate with a blue border! There is much to talk about, but the islands themselves are needed!
    1. Islam
      +2
      7 November 2012 11: 28
      Japan decided to play with her muscles. If only they wouldn’t overdo it, otherwise they’ll get the most pamper am
  4. +5
    7 November 2012 08: 26
    China wanted to spit on all these Japanese demarches. Will blather loudly strangle economically.
    And about the Kuril Islands, we can add ....., and let the Yamato lands stretch from the Urals to the Great Ocean ... laughing
    It’s too late even to try to grind your teeth on the Kuril Islands, tea is not 92-94 ... The Japanese have a navy and army, of course, who are very serious, but in the event of an attack they have counter-arguments, fortunately, no.
    1. Lucky
      0
      7 November 2012 11: 34
      yadrenbaton- you said it seriously)))))))))))))))))))
    2. 0
      7 November 2012 12: 06
      They have a counter-argument, Sergei, there is.
      Fukushima ...
      In addition to Hwu-Kushima ... another thread ... shed-drop.
      Well, not the enemy - it's so simple ... scare.
      They will start their tankers .. to set fire to the oceans.
      ...
      Some kind of nonsense.
      Do the Japanese twitch? Let them first amend their Constitution.
  5. +4
    7 November 2012 08: 26
    Japan's time to forget about its imperial ambitions. They have long been not a player who can play with muscles. and the Yankees in serious conflict will throw them.
  6. +1
    7 November 2012 08: 32
    The States are once again being manipulated, and Japan is also "good", they still understand there that nothing will shine for them!
  7. +3
    7 November 2012 08: 42
    Quote: JonnyT
    and Japan is also "good", they still understand there that nothing will shine for them!


    Exactly! But it is necessary to somehow distract people from the problems with radiation after the accident at the nuclear power plant. So they will set a "high patriotic goal"
  8. -1
    7 November 2012 09: 06
    Recently, a very interesting thought in such articles here, you do not find, !! To the noise of the pluralism of opinions, a very simple thought is constantly being circulated, Yes Japan never hid its claims to the USSR and afterwards to RUSSIA, Oh, what news, We didn’t know about it, Yes the Japanese never hid and we knew, Such are the whole of the 20th century problems constantly went to the international level, It’s that the truth of last resort, I often come to mind one simple truth no one wants to know the history of their own and the whole world history, Not so long ago after the earthquake in JAPAN there were good guys who started to push a simple one through the Internet thought, give the Kuril Islands, to your surprise, a lot of lovers of knocking on the buttons picked up and began to reasonably argue, It turns out they don’t even know their own country history, and this is the future of the country, All world history firmly says, The collapse of countries and empires comes after the struggle of any groups around government, And folk wisdom repeats FISH ROTING FROM THE HEAD, I have long been observing the oddities of our government, Speaking that’s one thing is doing something completely wrong, That’s not true, Try to refute and I’ll apologize and take the words back,
    1. Evil Tatar
      0
      7 November 2012 11: 32
      Quote: igor.borov775
      I have long been observing the oddities of our governing the country, They say one thing is doing something completely wrong, That’s not true, Try to refute it and I’ll apologize and take the words back,

      What is the oddity?
      Is it not that Medvedev, and other high-ranking officials of Russia, stopped shoes while visiting the Kuril Islands?
      Is it not that the military group in the Kuril Islands is undergoing reinforcement?
      Then what other signal do you need?
  9. +1
    7 November 2012 09: 20
    Soon all the Japanese will become tall blue-eyed blondes, speak Russian and enter the Federation. May it help us, FUKUSIMA.
  10. +8
    7 November 2012 09: 25
    I am looking for like-minded people to repeat the action of the art group war on the St. Petersburg bridge only in the Kuril Islands, and also volunteers are needed to collect and bring stones. The organ should be large so that Japanese ministers look through binoculars and see horseradish with the naked eye.

    good day to all. Today I am ill after yesterday.
    1. +3
      7 November 2012 09: 29
      Hi Sanya. I am for any healthy boil except hunger and abstinence. So count.
      1. +3
        7 November 2012 09: 36
        Hi Zhenya, and you did not drink yesterday with grief?
        1. +3
          7 November 2012 11: 15
          He thumped for the resignation of Pinocchio.
          1. +8
            7 November 2012 11: 57
            Quote: Mechanic
            Booze for the resignation of Pinocchio

            So, just one was fired, and the whole country is in the insole laughing
    2. +2
      7 November 2012 11: 56
      Quote: vorobey
      I am looking for like-minded people to repeat the action of the art group war on the St. Petersburg bridge only in the Kuril Islands, and also volunteers are required to collect and bring stones

      Hello everyone, bring me to the list, I’ll give a ride to the stones. For Japan, it’s not a pity.
      1. +5
        7 November 2012 12: 28
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I will lift the stones


        Hi Sanya, you are the closest there, take control in your own hands. I’m not offended even if you call Tseretelia to helpers. Here his talent in the subject will be. He really gets monumental things.

        you can pose tongue
        1. +2
          7 November 2012 12: 47
          Quote: vorobey
          you can pose

          I already avenged you in Mosaic wink
          1. +4
            7 November 2012 13: 12
            Quote: vorobey
            you can pose

            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I already avenged you in Mosaic

            So what kind of showdown without me? I’m inventing that stone for a stone machine, and they’re already biting.
            1. +4
              7 November 2012 13: 49
              Quote: Mechanic
              I invent a stone machine


              Intercontinental? with multiple warheads? good
          2. +2
            7 November 2012 13: 48
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I already avenged you in Mosaic


            How small it is. i already saw wassat
            1. +2
              7 November 2012 13: 59
              Quote: vorobey
              How small it is. i already saw

              I saw it, then we will sculpt the required figure from your photo, which you laid out- "Gulchitay open your face" you are standing there like **** Tseretelli is resting laughing
              1. +3
                7 November 2012 14: 13
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Gulchitay open your face "


                do not remind novels. most scared.
      2. Region65
        +2
        7 November 2012 19: 11
        but what, you look like stones at an island in the sea we throw :) let them take it :)
        1. +4
          7 November 2012 20: 18
          Quote: Region65
          with stones they throw an island into the sea :) let them take

          Again, the Chinese will fight.
  11. +2
    7 November 2012 09: 44
    Russia + China and Japan will not receive either northern or southern))))
    1. 0
      7 November 2012 10: 59
      If the last Japs did not lose, in this situation. hi
    2. Islam
      -1
      7 November 2012 11: 29
      there one country is quite enough
    3. Lucky
      +1
      7 November 2012 11: 37
      I also thought about this if the Japanese and the United States sing, then the Russian Federation and China will go to them alone, and there are no options for the Japanese, vryatli Americans will want two large partners to change for the Japanese!
      1. Islam
        -1
        8 November 2012 12: 08
        Quote: Lucky
        The Japanese will sing with the USA, then the Russian Federation and China will go to them together
        if all this happens then World War 3 will begin and given the nuclear potential - the last days in the history of mankind
  12. +2
    7 November 2012 09: 45
    Ehh the Japanese are the Japanese. The "bold" ones are, however, in hindsight. And it was worth our deployment of MLRS, Bereg installations and anti-ship missile systems. How their "mighty" fleet dramatically increased the distance from our shores. All that remains is to scream and tell ourselves tales about the return of these islands. The United States is in its repertoire, they know how to tease, but in reality they do not care. And they certainly don't care much if these islands are returned or not. And if it happens "suddenly". Then the United States will trumpet all over the world that it was with their help that the Japanese achieved this.
  13. +3
    7 November 2012 10: 36
    You can offer the Japanese a solution to the problem with the Kuril Islands, if you want to live in the Kuril Islands, be part of the Russian Federation)))) And all the problems with the lack of territory will disappear.
    1. +5
      7 November 2012 10: 48
      Quote: Serb
      want to live in the Kuril Islands, be part of the Russian Federation)))) And all the problems with the lack of territory will disappear.


      then the Chinese will want to live in Russia.
  14. 0
    7 November 2012 11: 03
    A good naval base needs to be built in the South Kuril Islands so that the Japs bring it through binoculars and the walking ships with the naked eye. Then their ardor will quickly subside.
    1. Lucky
      +2
      7 November 2012 11: 38
      For this base, first ships somewhere to find!
    2. +3
      7 November 2012 11: 45
      Zhirinovsky suggested better;))) A phallic symbol 20 meters high facing Japan.
  15. Evil Tatar
    +3
    7 November 2012 11: 35
    After the Japanese take up the Kuril Islands?
    But maybe it’s better to let them take up the railing?

    - Sidekick, have you tried the "beaver"?
    - No ... And how is it?
    -Well, you bend it to the railing and play it until it bites ....)))))))))
  16. 0
    7 November 2012 11: 37
    The very fact of discussing this topic, suggests that the Kuril Islands are already shocked, it remains a matter of little, wait for the right moment and give the Kuril Islands. But as a healthy person (I hope so) I understand it myself and hope that the other strengths of this country understand it, it is impossible to do this. Otherwise, the Russo-Japanese War will be repeated, but in a different format. There will be no way out to the Quiet, and we will again have to rent Port Arthur in China.
  17. Bashkaus
    +4
    7 November 2012 11: 46
    Anecdote:
    The hunter came to the den to the bear, and the bear grabbed his scruff, cancer and .....
    The hunter returns home, the evil one takes the trap, the gun is more serious, returns to the den, shouts "I'll show you now"
    He enters the den, the bear takes him behind his shoulder and says "I knew what you liked"
    The Japanese remind me of this hunter, at first they will get pleasure with China, then they will come to us.
  18. +3
    7 November 2012 12: 00
    I am touched by the phrase: the key friends of the Japanese are Americans. And this is after all that was done in the 45th with the Japanese people .. Well, actually the Japanese people do not need all these claims, they’re amering them, like the bad Russian islands don’t give you away, buy more of our weapons, and climb up even more in debt, and the fact that the standard of living will fall is not the main thing ... So the Japanese take to the streets with the demand to put an end to the occupation of Japan and allow them to live normally, and not to drag them into any games ..
  19. +4
    7 November 2012 12: 29
    After Senkak Japanese take up the Kuril Islands?

    Ha ha)) The Chinese will wipe out their main foreign policy body about the Japanese, and the Americans will wither away as usual and begin to whimper about human rights and the renminbi in China. The rzhaka itself was when Taiwanese fishermen also harnessed to the same islands.

    Despite the fact that the Chinese disputed islands now and in the past were under the control of the Japanese, and our islands have been under our control since then, they have some, but they have a border post.

    What do the Japanese have to do? Invade the army? Georgians fucked for less. Drop a delegation with flags and political requirements? The border guards will stretch their legs. And modern Japanese are not those samurai who are ready to fight for the glory of the emperor. They are the children of the modern world - a new tablet, smartphone, typewriter, USB3.0 assassin, so that like people ...
  20. WW3
    WW3
    +2
    7 November 2012 13: 44
    It would be very nice for the Chinese dragon to encounter Japanese samurai bully let the fighters let off the accumulated steam ... Russia will only win in this case.
  21. +1
    7 November 2012 14: 05
    Well, we have a couple of answers to Japanese harassment. "Ball", "Bastion", "Shell" ..
  22. 0
    7 November 2012 15: 30
    WW3,
    America will win in this case!
  23. +1
    7 November 2012 15: 32

    WW3 It would be very nice if the Chinese dragon collided with the Japanese samurai, let the fighters release the accumulated steam ... Russia will only win in this case.

    America will win in this case!
    1. Suvorov000
      +2
      7 November 2012 16: 45
      America will only speak vulgarly but no more, their elections are over, they will now do dirty tricks for Syria, and with China it will do nothing for it is equivalent to chopping off both hands
  24. smprofi
    0
    7 November 2012 17: 29
    strictly speaking, the article is a soap bubble. especially regarding exercises.
    this is an ANNUALEX (Annual Exercise) exercise - regular

    ANNUALEX - 2010





    ANNUALEX - 2011




    in addition to these exercises, TRILATEX (trilateral exercise) exists in that region
    TRILATEX is intended to increase interoperability, operational proficiency and readiness between partnering nations.



    April 16, 2007 - US, Indian and Japanese ships steam in formation as part of TRILATEX 07



    12-08-2012 - A formation of ships from the US Navy, US Coast Guard, Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, and the Republic of Korea Navy maneuver in the Pacific Ocean during a trilateral exercise (TRILATEX).

    What then was all this "hushed up" and "hidden from the public"?

    as for the Hunhus and Nipponians and their butts for the islands. relatively recently watched the news on CCTV (hunhuzy broadcast). so they gladly noted that the Nipponian foreign minister was rushing to the gringo and to Europe, asking for support. to which hungkhuz commented with undisguised joy: direct support was denied everywhere, everyone declared their neutrality in this matter.

    so the "peace-loving" hunghuzes can still show their teeth. but it depends on who comes to power after the party congress.
    wait a bit ...
  25. Region65
    -1
    7 November 2012 18: 56
    After Senkak Japanese take up the Kuril Islands?
    they will take their heads .. broken by a nuclear hammer ...
    I personally do not mind joining all of Japan to the Sakhalin region :) let it be better for the Japanese to plow at construction sites than these "nasyayalnik ...")))
    1. smprofi
      0
      7 November 2012 19: 12
      oh well, drive a wave!




      23 September 2012, arrived in Vladivostok to participate in joint exercises with Russia, a detachment of ships of the Japanese naval self-defense forces: destroyer "Ariake" and frigate "Oeda".
  26. +1
    7 November 2012 19: 16
    Americans to build a second such aircraft ........................ just spit !!
  27. F-22
    +1
    7 November 2012 19: 18
    Senkaku Japanese territory, like the Kuril Islands - Russian. The Chinese are walking through the forest.
    1. smprofi
      -1
      7 November 2012 19: 27
      Khunkhuzov is better not in the forest, but somewhere in the desert
  28. +1
    7 November 2012 21: 49
    The impudent Saxons have a good proverb: "You shouldn't throw stones to the one who himself lives in a glass house." The Yapas quickly forgot about their tsunami and Fukushima.
  29. essenger
    +1
    7 November 2012 22: 00
    The truth behind Japan
  30. 0
    8 November 2012 01: 52
    Russia like nobody else benefits this mess:

    - China won’t throw off the buck, he constantly invests and invests in it, America will be brought down, but they themselves will be left without pants.

    “In such a conflict, our three geopolitical adversaries are weakened: America, China, Japan. America will not be up to us, and they will lag behind Iran and Syria, China, too, will not be expanding in the Far East, + he thinks the Uyghurs will intensify very quickly, they will start stabbing them inside the country (again supported by amers). Japan will forget about the Kuril Islands.

    - Most likely the Philippines will also oppose China, they also have territorial disputes with them, on the brink of war

    - Strengthening countries loyal to us: India, Vietnam.

    - Oil will rise in price

    Temporary disadvantages:

    - Consumer goods from China will cease to be brought, it will be hard at first, and then we will fix everything ourselves, there will be an excellent impulse.
  31. Ash
    Ash
    0
    8 November 2012 05: 27
    Take the Kuril Islands - get snot - take up the nose.

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