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The lack of armored vehicles in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is forcing the Ukrainian military to change to makeshift "dumbbells"

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The lack of armored vehicles in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is forcing the Ukrainian military to change to makeshift "dumbbells"

The heavy losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in armored vehicles since the beginning of the Russian military special operation are forcing the Ukrainian military to look for other ways to maintain mobility and the ability to fire. Basically, all this results in the creation of the so-called dumbbells.


The term "gantrak" (English gun truck - armed truck) first appeared during the Vietnam War, when the Americans faced heavy losses of trucks. To repel the attacks of the Vietnamese guerrillas, some of the American vehicles underwent makeshift armor and received weapons.

The Ukrainian army is now following the same path, also facing heavy losses of armored vehicles. If the personnel units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are still supplied with factory equipment, mainly of foreign production, then the territorial defense units receive it on a residual basis. All this leads to the creation of "Ukrainian dumbbells".


A photo of another "masterpiece" of Ukrainian engineering thought appeared in Ukrainian public pages, from where it migrated to our resources. Judging by the photo, a pair of Maxim machine guns with self-made protection were installed in the back of the pickup truck, the car itself was "camouflaged", also installing something like armor protection on the front windows. The use of machine guns "Maxim" as the main weapons forced, heavy machine guns are simply not enough. Therefore, what is available is taken.

Recently, so-called groups of "drone hunters" on pickup trucks have appeared in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The design of the "anti-aircraft installations" is no different from the "gantrucks", only an anti-aircraft sight is installed on the machine gun. The main task of such "hunters" is to identify and destroy Russian "Geran" kamikaze drones.

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  1. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 23 December 2022 09: 11
    +2
    All those sheets of metal are useless.
    Kalash perfectly penetrates 3-5mm non-armored steel.
    1. Mainjet88
      Mainjet88 23 December 2022 09: 52
      +5
      Why are they useless.
      Have you read the statistics, 80% of the wounds are "mine-explosive" (i.e. fragmentation) and only 10% are bullet wounds?
      So from some small fragments (or even bullets on a tangent) it will save even better than nothing.
      1. Graz
        Graz 23 December 2022 11: 06
        0
        it is highly doubtful, even these photos show that such protection is fragmentary, and there is no back door on the pickup truck at all, that is, it is something like a buggy
        1. Beck69
          Beck69 24 December 2022 01: 27
          +2
          Yes, of course, Armata-style armor is wonderful, but if this roofing iron catches a tridesat of small fragments and a couple of bullets and reflects them with a ricochet, it has completed its task.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 December 2022 11: 28
      +1
      Quote: Kuroneko
      All those sheets of metal are useless.
      Kalash perfectly penetrates 3-5mm non-armored steel.

      Duc ... but for psychological reassurance? request 0chko is not iron! stop There are: 1. Armor protection; 2. Ballistic ...; 3. Psychological... wink
  2. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 23 December 2022 09: 11
    +4
    Gantrak remained there, with the Americans! Ukraine has its own - a cart! So they are sculpting from a lack of weapons! This is so, for reference aftypy.
    1. Mainjet88
      Mainjet88 23 December 2022 09: 48
      +1
      And in the Middle East it is a toychanka, from Toyota))
    2. usr01
      usr01 23 December 2022 09: 48
      -1
      Quote: seregatara1969
      ... Ukraine has its own - a cart! ...

      ... and also a moot point .. how is it in the song? -
      "Oh, a Rostov-cart, all four wheels ...."
      Now, if "maxim" is put on a THREE-wheeled (children's) one .. then YES !!! fellow
      great invention of Great Ukrov!!
      (gift! love )
    3. YOUR
      YOUR 23 December 2022 11: 27
      +4
      Here is an interview with a soldier of the Arctic brigade, in the NVO from the first day that he talks about the armament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      The first part
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMSc9yJ5W04
      The second part
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW3kB1TkM6M&t=5s

      Here is an interview with Marine officers there is also about the armament of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. By the way, they are not very flattering about machine guns in caliber 5.45

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaomNtvyuvw

      All this dregs that the article describes are not at the front, they are armed with some kind of troop, I don’t even know what analogue. Maybe during the Second World War there were extermination squads of workers who tried to catch saboteurs in the rear and patrolled the streets.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 December 2022 09: 17
    +1
    The lack of armored vehicles in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is forcing the Ukrainian military to change to makeshift "dumbbells"
    And the Western media, without analyzing why this is happening, present this fact as almost Ukrainian know-how (although it has long been tested by militants in Syria), ingenuity and at the same time emphasize effective use. In their opinion, the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply cannot lack armored vehicles and armored vehicles, because deliveries are regular, and only Russians lose b / t. How you present information is how it will be perceived, which the West has learned to do well.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 23 December 2022 09: 26
      -2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And the Western media, without analyzing why this is happening, present this fact as almost Ukrainian know-how

      Of course not Ukrainian. Only they know a certain result - how these jihad carts had fun in the Kharkov and Kherson directions and what they could do. By itself, these units are not a panacea for everything, only as a tool for specific tasks. They are used as carts - bypass, strike, retreat. A tank and an armored personnel carrier will not work that way.
    2. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 23 December 2022 09: 41
      +2
      although it has long been tested by militants in Syria
  4. zloybond
    zloybond 23 December 2022 09: 17
    +1
    My friend also drove his field into the NWO zone. And how to perform tasks normally, you need a cart at hand.
  5. faiver
    faiver 23 December 2022 09: 20
    +7
    I don’t understand these publications, but what don’t our pickup trucks with machine guns use? Yes, the photo shows a 150-year-old Maxim, but you don’t have to bother replacing an overheated barrel.
    Let me remind you of a photo with our Kamaz trucks armored with birch logs ....
    You can also remember the LDNR with mosquitoes and DP-27 ...
    1. N3onMiami
      N3onMiami 23 December 2022 09: 25
      +3
      We remember how all 8 years laughed at the Armed Forces of Ukraine with their crafts in the style of Mad Max. And when we ourselves got hot, we went the same way, and it’s no longer a laughing matter. Now, here it is again, laughing again.
    2. YOUR
      YOUR 23 December 2022 11: 32
      +2
      Above is my comment on this topic. There is nothing on the front. Everything is in the rear. They give some units called the defense. In general, it's all bullshit. In the same comment, there is a link to an interview with an Arctic brigade soldier and Marine officers.
      They say there is no junk at the front. There are differences between the regular army, national battalions and mobilized. The Nazis are armed with top foreign weapons, the regular troops are also well armed, but the mobiles are already worse there, but still quite worthy.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 December 2022 11: 41
      0
      Quote: faiver
      You can also remember the LDNR with mosquitoes and DP-27 ...

      Well. not only DP-27 ... There are also "maxims" ... As well as SKSs, "Lights", PPSh, PPS ...
      By the way, there were pictures where individual soldiers of the Akhmat battalions with DP-27, PPSh ...
  6. fuel oil
    fuel oil 23 December 2022 09: 25
    +1
    An article in favor of the “poor”. the lines have just been sent, stuffed with the essentials.
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 23 December 2022 09: 49
      +2
      By the way, this photo with Maxim has been walking around for more than a month ... The article is another attempt to convince the electorate that everything is bad there ..
  7. tarragon
    tarragon 23 December 2022 09: 28
    0
    Wheeled vehicles are very vulnerable on the battlefield. Broken tires and no car. So many photos of lost equipment with punctured wheels. Hence, its conclusion should be a lot and it should be cheap.
    1. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 23 December 2022 09: 50
      -1
      And it must be applied correctly. However, this applies to literally everything
    2. faiver
      faiver 23 December 2022 13: 24
      0
      So many photos of lost equipment with punctured wheels.
      - only this technique was lost, most likely not because of punctured wheels, go and hit them, otherwise the "gusmatic" was invented more than a hundred years ago ....
  8. Old Doctor
    Old Doctor 23 December 2022 09: 34
    +6
    I, as not a specialist, an amateur, I will say. What is used by "Maxims" - a person shot from it will be offended that a queue did not saw him out of the newest machine gun? And the fact that the machine gun is installed in this shaitan arba, back in the 19th century, 2 bearded friends from Germany claimed that history develops in a spiral. Nestor Ivanovich Makhno is pleased.
    1. Beck69
      Beck69 24 December 2022 01: 34
      +3
      For such purposes, Maxim is just good, substitute a larger box under the tape and you will be happy. A 2 pcs. compensate for the low rate of fire. And the weight compensates for the recoil.
  9. Tarasios
    Tarasios 23 December 2022 10: 02
    +3
    But I don’t understand this hidden message of the author "let's laugh at the stupid and deprived of the equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" (by the way - who is the author?)
    Here are a couple of quite real, in my opinion, "benefits" from such homemade products.
    1. Everything that kills already has its own percentage of usefulness in battle. And a device like the "outdated" Maximka, which has an effective firing range of 2000 m, is quite a serious argument. Also in a spark ... To put a little more serious optics, in a heap, for example, with ballistic computers and other electronic rattles - in general, an evil unit will turn out. Under the fight against slow and low-flying drones - that's it.
    2. The mobility of such trucks based on powerful SUVs is much higher than "classic" armored cars, and the price is lower.
    3. On the murky but fertile topic of domestic and foreign deliveries of SUVs (as well as vans, and just cars) for the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, crowds of volunteers will provide themselves with dough for three lives in advance. No accounting, a lot of benefits - it's really a freebie.
    4. Ukraine and Co. can literally generate hundreds and thousands of such units per month.
    Now let's laugh
  10. Maks1995
    Maks1995 23 December 2022 10: 25
    +4
    It's already been similar
    1. single photos
    2. Having something is better than having nothing.
    3. There were also photos of our equipment with kuchtar protection. And massive.

    Alas. standard PR.
  11. Kaufman
    Kaufman 23 December 2022 10: 40
    -2
    Where did so many Maxims, mosquitoes and other historical rubbish come from? Where are the ammo for them from?
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 December 2022 11: 31
      +1
      Quote: kaufman
      Where are the ammo for them from?

      From Kalashnikov and Dragunov! yes
      1. faiver
        faiver 23 December 2022 13: 28
        0
        would you explain from which Kalashnikov, otherwise they will misunderstand you bully
    2. YOUR
      YOUR 23 December 2022 11: 36
      +3
      Are you seriously asking this question? Or are you kidding like that?
      Cartridges 7.64 * 54 are the same as for PKM. Weapons, so checkers have been lying in warehouses since 1905, what will become of them. Reminder, at the beginning of the NWO, the mobilized LPR / DPR were also armed with mosquitoes and, unlike the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they managed to fight at the front
  12. lubesky
    lubesky 23 December 2022 22: 54
    +2
    - and I'm telling you, comrade. Marshal, that the cart is a weapon of retreat!
    - Yes, how dare you, we won in civilian carts on carts!
    - Yes, they just didn’t catch up with you ...