New plans for the development of the Russian armed forces

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New plans for the development of the Russian armed forces


The Ministry of Defense has revealed new plans to improve and modernize the armed forces. It is proposed to increase the size of the army, adjust the rules of conscription, and improve the organizational structure of the troops. All these measures will improve the overall combat effectiveness of the armed forces, as well as ensure the ability to respond to newly emerging threats and challenges.



New reform


On December 21, an expanded meeting of the Collegium of the Ministry of Defense was held at the National Defense Control Center under the leadership of the President and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. As part of this event, we summed up the results of the outgoing year, and also revealed some plans for the near future.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu delivered a lengthy report at the meeting. According to him, the armed forces continue to carry out common tasks, carry out preparations and conduct military construction. Plans of various kinds for 2022 have been generally fulfilled. At the same time, the army is conducting a special operation to protect Donbass.

At the same time, new threats and challenges are emerging that require an appropriate response. In connection with the change in the military-political situation in the world, the Minister of Defense proposed a number of measures aimed at increasing the defense capability. It is planned to strengthen the defense as a whole and strengthen individual strategic areas.


The need for reforms is primarily related to the strengthening of NATO's military potential near the Russian borders. The organization is building up its forces in Eastern Europe, and also plans to take Finland and Sweden into its membership. All this creates additional threats in the strategic western direction. In addition, it is necessary to ensure the protection of the newly annexed regions.

In this regard, it is proposed to increase the size of the armed forces and change approaches to recruitment. In addition, in accordance with the new circumstances, the organizational structure will change. Such changes will be present at different levels, from operational-tactical to strategic.

Number and staffing


Not so long ago, at the end of August, the president signed a decree on changing the size of the army. In accordance with this document, from January 1, 2023, the total number of armed forces should exceed 2 million people. The number of military personnel is brought to 1,15 million people. - 137 thousand more than now.

Now a new increase in numbers is being proposed. According to the Minister of Defense, 1,5 million military personnel are needed to ensure the guaranteed solution of security tasks. The existing system of conscription and contract service should be maintained. At the same time, the number of contractors must be increased to 695 thousand people. – almost double compared to the current values.


The Ministry of Defense also proposes to adjust the principles of conscription and recruitment. Thus, the age of conscription should increase to 21 years with a limit of 30 years. In this case, the personnel will be able to conclude a contract from the very beginning of the service.

The system of military registration and enlistment offices will continue to be improved. It is planned to complete the transition to digital document management, as well as make other changes. Precise plans for the improvement of these bodies will be drawn up taking into account the experience of the recent partial mobilization. During this event, various problems have arisen, and their causes must be dealt with.

Organizational and staff structure


The most serious changes in the structure of troops are planned at all levels, starting from strategic territorial associations. Thus, the Moscow and Leningrad military districts will be formed. Apparently, they will be separated from the existing Western Military District. At the same time, the territory of the new districts and the composition of the troops have not yet been specified.

New connections will be formed. During this process, a new army corps will appear in Karelia. Two combined-arms divisions will be created in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. The airborne troops will be reinforced by two new airborne assault divisions. Five artillery divisions and high-capacity artillery brigades will be formed in all military districts in strategic axes.


New units and formations will also appear in the aerospace forces. It will be three controls aviation divisions, eight bomber regiments and one fighter regiment. Army aviation will be expanded with six new regiments.

A number of existing connections will be reformatted to scale up. So, seven motorized rifle brigades from the Western Military District, Central Military District, Eastern Military District and Northern fleet expanded to full-fledged divisions. Similar transformations will take place in the coastal troops of the Navy, as a result of which five divisions will appear instead of marine brigades.

Measures aimed at strengthening the interaction of the military branches are proposed. To support combined arms and tank VKS armies will contain one mixed air division and an army aviation brigade.

Supply and operation


The Ministry of Defense pays the necessary attention to the development of production and the production of the necessary military products. The necessary supervision over the implementation of the state order is carried out, and new contracts are issued. In addition, the work schedule is being adjusted: the delivery dates for some of the most popular samples have been shifted to the left, to 2023.

Due to timely production, the needs of the troops for new materiel are closed, incl. taking into account the conduct of the Special Operation. In addition, the industry will have to provide weapons and equipment to newly formed or expanded formations.


The Ministry of Defense will continue to recreate its own repair and restoration bodies, which were abandoned during the previous reform. Next year, three new repair plants will be created and military units of a similar purpose will be strengthened. The process of building repair facilities will not stop there.

Directions of development


Thus, the Ministry of Defense is actually planning a new reform of the armed forces and related areas. In the foreseeable future, the announced plans will be implemented in the form of real documents, orders and laws, according to which the necessary military construction will be carried out in the future. Due to such measures, it is planned to both improve individual aspects and strengthen the defense as a whole.

It is easy to see that the new plans pay special attention to quantitative issues. An increase in the total strength of the army is envisaged, with a simultaneous increase in the number of formations. In addition, the existing brigades will increase their performance and turn into divisions.

It is noteworthy that the number of personnel will be increased mainly by doubling the number of contract soldiers and increasing their share in the army. At the same time, interesting solutions are proposed in the field of conscription. At the same time, the duration of military service, despite recent rumors, will not change.


The modernization of the army will continue through rearmament and re-equipment. However, new challenges are expected in this area - the industry will have to meet the needs of newly created or increased connections. In addition, operations continue in Syria and Ukraine, presenting their demands.

Enterprises are generally coping with the current workload and preparing for more complex challenges. Production is modernized and expanded. It can be expected that the work of industry will be simplified to some extent due to the transfer of part of the orders to the restored repair plants of the Ministry of Defense.

Quantity and quality of


The Ministry of Defense continues to develop the armed forces and is again preparing a large set of measures aimed at improving all key indicators. Based on the results of such reinforcement, the army will be able to effectively counter all potential adversaries in all strategic directions, both existing and expected ones.

Such results are planned to be obtained through a simultaneous increase in quantitative and qualitative indicators. The size of the armed forces will grow, the number of formations and units will increase, and they will be equipped with the most modern weapons and equipment. How long it will take to achieve all the goals set has not yet been reported. But the positive results of these measures are already clear.
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  1. -17
    23 December 2022 04: 17
    Pleased with the full-scale deployment of brigades in the division. I wonder how the concept of mixed divisions will be implemented. In general, in general, it is drawn to a full-scale military reform.
    1. +34
      23 December 2022 04: 27
      The trouble is that the succession of industry and science in the development of military equipment and weapons has been violated. In the USSR, any plant had equipment (which was not often used, but was simply waiting in the wings) which was intended for the production of weapons and parts for them. Similarly, the institutes had corresponding departments that were aware of the relevant topics and could quickly change their profile to the development of weapons and military equipment. The presence of GOST made it possible to quickly match various components produced by different factories in different parts of the country. In addition, there were many factories and enterprises that duplicated the production of military products and made it possible to quickly increase the mass production of weapons in large volumes. Now all this is gone! There are individual factories and enterprises that produce military products in single copies or in small batches over a long period of time. And it’s useless that there are effective models of modern weapons and equipment developed, there is no way to produce all this in large-scale! The military-industrial complex must be re-created. Under the sanctions, this will take years! The management has a plan for this, written down in points, or again some wishes, what is "necessary", but how, but who knows, "somehow" ...
      1. +7
        23 December 2022 05: 57
        The trouble is that there were no factories where there was continuity. For example, lipstick was previously produced here, but in case of war, such a plant was redesigned for cartridges. There is no our lipstick, no factory, no cartridges. And oh, what a lot of such factories have been destroyed. Therefore, before raising this issue, it is necessary to kick a number of economists in the ass. The chain is large and large.
        1. +1
          23 December 2022 07: 24
          It is enough, according to the law, to shove away from the "state scoring" (state tenderers) those legal entities that do not have the main or related and, first of all, high-tech industries of defense significance that are in demand by the state or the world market. Then they will have them and they will work.
        2. -7
          23 December 2022 12: 23
          there is no point in kicking now, it is necessary to do business
        3. +2
          24 December 2022 09: 32
          Quote: Vladimir Mikhalev
          factories destroyed oh what a lot. Therefore, before raising this issue, it is necessary to kick a number of economists in the ass


          Do not kick economists, but give a good kick to Mandurov and his pack and appoint a production worker
      2. -3
        23 December 2022 16: 19
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        The trouble is that the succession of industry and science in the development of military equipment and weapons has been violated. In the USSR, any plant had equipment (which was not often used, but was simply waiting in the wings) which was intended for the production of weapons and parts for them. Similarly, the institutes had corresponding departments that were aware of the relevant topics and could quickly change their profile to the development of weapons and military equipment. The presence of GOST made it possible to quickly match various components produced by different factories in different parts of the country. In addition, there were many factories and enterprises that duplicated the production of military products and made it possible to quickly increase the mass production of weapons in large volumes. Now all this is gone!

        Stop pouring crocodile tears and pouring your beer tummy lying on the couch. There are vacancies at defense plants, so the employment center bombs everyone with a little kick to work, drives retraining in our region, promises at the expense of the state and decent reservations and salaries. So we reopened the electrical workshops, we made machines for one defense plant, we launched the old Soviet ones, where the stuffing was changed, where one of the two machines was assembled. So there, a turner needs high-quality, imported equipment and modern Russian equipment works in three shifts without rest. Everything rests on personnel, what is the use of these Soviet workshops with equipment from the mid-60s and late 70s, you can’t put children and women there like during the Second World War.
      3. +7
        23 December 2022 17: 55
        Everything will be as always. As a result of the reform, another corruption swamp will appear, which will give birth to beautiful reports and saw state money. So it was with the reforms of education, medicine, the police, the pension system, etc., and so it will be now.
        1. -2
          23 December 2022 21: 01
          Yeah. Let's do nothing. Somehow it will sort itself out...
      4. -2
        24 December 2022 09: 38
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        The military-industrial complex must be re-created. Under the sanctions, this will take years! The management has a plan for this, written down in points, or again only wishes,


        Right.

        But what about "New plans for the development of the armed forces of Russia"?
        Will they develop another Triathlon under the leadership of the "most talented" minister?
    2. 0
      23 December 2022 05: 10
      Quote: voice of reason
      I am pleased with the full-scale deployment of brigades in the division

      what ...?
      "Now everything will be like with my grandmother." With such words, according to the version accepted by historians, Emperor Alexander I began his reign, emphasizing that he was returning to the traditions of Catherine II and canceling all the controversial reforms of his father Paul I.
      1. +5
        23 December 2022 06: 37
        A new army corps will be formed in Karelia. good Yesterday I watched about fishing with Kuzmich. laughing
        Finland, say hello to NATA.
        Another would be wood, gas, and in general everything to block Finland, so that she would more fully feel what Russophobia is.
        It's a pity Stalin did not completely denazify the Finns: they were not up to it.
        1. +25
          23 December 2022 07: 25
          Private factories, a private army, an irreplaceable elite like nobles, well, 145 million slaves. We are celebrating 100 years of the USSR well.
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          2. +1
            24 December 2022 20: 54
            Quote: Civil
            We are celebrating 100 years of the USSR well.

            What can you say about the 69 years of the USSR, at the very dawn of one’s strength, to choke and die. Who changed whom and what happened to the elite, was everything fine?
        2. -2
          24 December 2022 03: 49
          What meaning do you put in the "denazification of the Finns"? Destruction?
        3. +3
          24 December 2022 09: 43
          Quote: Bearded
          Still forest, gas, and in general everything to block Finland, so that she would feel more fully,


          Probably right!
          And for their people to reduce energy prices by at least 100 times (to make it easier for people)
          as under Stalin. - under him, factories were built by the thousands and the prices for gas, electricity, gasoline and timber cost a penny.
          Therefore, under Stalin there was a JERK. And not alone
      2. +2
        23 December 2022 08: 10
        "And as was with my grandmother, I saw in the hole" lol
        1. +3
          23 December 2022 12: 19
          Not funny. And he and his "audience" clearly understood what they wanted and how it was.
    3. 0
      28 December 2022 14: 50
      Only now, conscripts are not taught to fight, and they are not taught ..... Are these divisions going to fight with NATO with a piping? or photoreport? Maybe square snowdrifts?
  2. +26
    23 December 2022 04: 18
    Well, with such a main Russian military leadership, no matter how much you increase the army and don’t give equipment, then there will be no sense from the word at all. I can remind you how many HP and equipment the Arabs had in all their warriors with Israel. This advantage did not help them in any way, because the herd lions led by a ram will definitely lose to a herd of rams led by a lion.
    1. +26
      23 December 2022 04: 29
      To begin with, they would tell where they spent 20 trillion on the last army and who sat down for it
      1. +12
        23 December 2022 08: 40
        For this, as it were, they should not be imprisoned, but they should be shot - because it is impossible to qualify it except as treason.
  3. +24
    23 December 2022 04: 23
    Knowing Putin and Shoigu, there is definitely no development plan there.
    1. +9
      23 December 2022 13: 32
      Why not? There was a plan to build 5 cities in Siberia for 10 trillion rubles. laughing sad
    2. +1
      24 December 2022 16: 35
      Quote: ximkim
      Knowing Putin and Shoigu, there is definitely no development plan there.

      That's exactly what the plan is. But there is a small nuance, in these conditions the plan has very little effect on the equipment of the aircraft, and in the future too. In addition to the plan, there must be, first of all, people capable of implementing it, constructing and inventing it. But with this, we are far from all right.
  4. +13
    23 December 2022 04: 42
    Army aviation will be expanded with six new regiments.

    A strange term ... they won’t increase, they won’t bring it up, they won’t replenish it, but they will expand it.
    And will they expand with an increase in the number of new aircraft and helicopters, or is it just a reorganization? Walking too far is dangerous...

    ... They will expand by building new Su-25Ms ... I would understand such a phrase.
    1. +2
      23 December 2022 04: 47
      Quote: Konnick
      A strange term ... they won’t increase, they won’t bring it up, they won’t replenish it, but they will expand it.

      Give meaning to words.
    2. +2
      24 December 2022 17: 57
      As far as I understand, attack aircraft are not included in our army aviation. Now army aviation is exclusively helicopters.
  5. +15
    23 December 2022 04: 46
    Reforms, reforms, reforms ................. annually reformed. There is no end in sight. Where are the results? In response, you do not see reforms in our country.
    1. +20
      23 December 2022 06: 28
      You will pay attention to how the Armed Forces will be reformed now. Everything is returning to Soviet norms. Regiments, divisions, army aviation. And how many copies were broken here at VO, all sorts of sofas proved how great the brigade was. Something about the lack of money was constantly weaved. Who was against immediately threw hundreds of minuses. And here is the result. Tons of money down the drain and a return to the Soviet system
      1. +3
        23 December 2022 11: 51
        If you look at the composition of today's divisions, now one regiment has been removed everywhere, it has become 2 + 1 instead of 3 + 1
        1. +11
          23 December 2022 12: 11
          A little wrong. MSD types
          Type 1 3 SMEs + tank + artillery regiment + zrp is a classic.
          Type 2 2 SME+2tp+artp+zrp
          3 types in desert and mountainous areas the tank regiment was excluded was 4 smp
          4 type 3 SMEs + tank battalion.
          But the last divisions were few.
          In the 80s, they began to experiment with cases. So, on the basis of the Rogachev division, Minsk, a corps was deployed. We brought all the tanks into a brigade, deployed a couple of regiments into brigades, adding a battalion to the regiments, and the rest remained as it was. Haven't finished. Gorbachev, perestroika, Yeltsin and so on.
          1. +6
            23 December 2022 16: 21
            God!!!!! Where did you dig it up? Who remembers it now. Especially about the 120th Guards Rogachev Order of Suvorov and Kutuzov Corps. of the Supreme Soviet of the BSSR and how it unfolded into the 5th Separate Guards Army Rogachevsky Red Banner, Orders of Suvorov and Kutuzov Corps. The Supreme Soviet of the BSSR is a brigade organization. I read and wept. Although he himself has never been an infantry ... and not ... and has nothing to do with it. The school was behind a fence.
      2. 0
        24 December 2022 18: 00
        If you analyze the information provided, you can't help but notice that part of the motorized rifle and tank brigades will remain. Not all of them will be converted to divisions. The same corps in Karelia will most likely consist of brigades.
        1. +1
          25 December 2022 04: 03
          For the body, this is normal. Not normal for the army, for the district.
    2. +1
      23 December 2022 08: 15
      Where are the results?

      without even touching the stats...
      life is better when? now or remember 1999 ... without touching the earlier years ...
      1. +6
        23 December 2022 11: 11
        Why not touch before 1991? The comparison will be in favor of the early years, so do not touch it?

        Quote: dirty trick
        now or remember 1999 ... without touching the earlier years ...

        The whole world is leaps and bounds forward, compared with China, and you are all looking back. Yes, compared to 1992-1999, life has become better, in stores there are more cardboard sausages and milk from palm oil, used cars from DEVELOPED countries, incl. and from China. Go to the shops and see what Russian-made clothes, household appliances are. Household appliances are now all from China. CHINA which in the same 1999 was gathering dust somewhere behind.
        These are the results.
        1. -1
          24 December 2022 06: 28
          Why not touch before 1991? The comparison will be in favor of the early years, so do not touch it?

          ok, let's touch the 80s...

          great picture?
          moreover, you don’t have to prove that “this is FSE Fraki !!!” ... I lived and live in Krasnoyarsk (in this picture there is a 4th category of supply, a million-plus city, the center of the region) and I remember how it was ..
          1. +2
            24 December 2022 08: 36
            What do I need to prove, I lived then, I lived in the 90s, while I still live now.
            You are trying to prove that now is much better than then, while forgetting how the country would develop and what would happen if it were not for these. China example.
          2. 0
            27 December 2022 14: 05
            And where did you get such a vile propaganda picture? In the 90s, such pictures were drawn en masse in order to close the eyes of a simple Soviet working man to how he was being robbed. That's where the real mess is...
    3. +2
      23 December 2022 10: 45
      Quote: YOUR
      The end and edge are not visible.

      Why be surprised?
      If, according to the announcement, Russia ranks first in the world?
      Well, our mentality is such, what can we do ... We love to advertise reforms, prodigies, projects, concepts and so on.
      True, as it comes to the point, to the battlefield, then instead of bringing these reforms and prodigies to mind, we quickly run to Iran for help. There with announcements, you see, more modestly. And it makes more sense.
    4. 0
      23 December 2022 11: 35
      Quote: YOUR
      Reforms, reforms, reforms ................. annually reformed. There is no end in sight. Where are the results?

      How can I tell you? .. Do you know this phrase?: "Repair can only begin. It is impossible to finish it." Well, "Repair is not a process, it's a state of mind." laughing hi
    5. +4
      23 December 2022 16: 45
      Quote: YOUR
      Reforms, reforms, reforms ................. annually reformed. There is no end in sight. Where are the results? In response, you do not see reforms in our country.

      As a result of the reforms carried out, we are in fact convinced that, compared with "partners" and opponents, we have a complete absence or a catastrophic lag in the following indicators:
      - precision weapons
      - EW
      - intelligence service
      - communication
      - control systems
      - UAV
      - space constellation
      All this cannot come about as a result of simple quantitative expansion. A lot of it has to be built from scratch.
    6. 0
      24 December 2022 03: 52
      A synonym for the word reform, the words are already perceived - to master, saw, plunder ...
      1. +2
        24 December 2022 08: 40
        Those. nothing good is expected from these reforms.
        Won tax policy is reformed annually, and even twice a year. And so until April, no one really knows what has changed since January, only rumors. And now they have come up with some kind of tax innovation, it seems like there will not be a single payment that will include everything. But no one knows what it will look like.
        I get the feeling that there is some kind of secret ministry whose representatives will be overthrown in order to come up with something else to make it even worse.
  6. +13
    23 December 2022 04: 47
    M. yes ... Of course, there are a lot of plans, but who will implement all this? You can’t cook porridge with the current Kremlin inmates and grief managers from the military-industrial complex. Everything is known in advance. But Putin does not change people, which means everything will be the same. It’s not even sad that the colossal funds will again go into the sand (read: dissolving into pockets), but the fact that precious time will again be lost. We need another team, other people, we have already gone through reforms with these, we know. And you can't win a war with them angry
    1. +1
      23 December 2022 18: 57
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      Need another team, other people

      Which? Surnames and reasons....
    2. -1
      24 December 2022 03: 56
      Why should he change them? Since they have been in these places for so many years, it means that he is satisfied with their activities. These are his people representing his interests. He does not oppose them, he leads them.
  7. +3
    23 December 2022 04: 48
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Under the sanctions, this will take years!

    Will NATO give us these years to put the military-industrial complex in order?
    Now everything is decided on the battlefield.
    If we defeat the united West in Ukraine, then we will have a chance to survive ... if we don’t win, then we will share the fate of Yugoslavia and Serbia.
    1. +3
      23 December 2022 06: 48
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Will NATO give us these years to put the military-industrial complex in order?

      You think the war is about to start.
      And then this is when our military-industrial complex collapsed. Everything is fine with us, really ... well, let's remember.
      So we will wait for the next reforms and rejoice in how great everything is with us.
    2. +3
      23 December 2022 09: 02
      We won’t win anymore, according to Putin, he is ready for negotiations, and if not, then we will peck long and hard.
    3. -2
      23 December 2022 09: 22
      There is always an option to become a province of China laughing "" "
    4. +2
      23 December 2022 10: 55
      Do you think that if we win, then NATO will be directly "scared" and raise its hands? Ukraine is now the central power of the alliance??? Ukraine, only a peripheral country that is supported because of the political benefits of the policies of the West. If we defeat it by capturing it, this will only untie NATO's hands in order to move on to more responsible actions. And now think about it, we here with a small Ukraine at our side dragged on, we thought that we could handle it in a couple of weeks or a month. And for almost a year we can not do anything, but only retreat. And what will happen if, in case of victory, NATO personally decides to arrange an operation to "liberate" Ukraine? Fully, with their troops, fleet and aviation. With its range of weapons and experience gained from conducting hundreds of military operations in different parts of the world. And the total number of the army exceeding our current army. Or will we again hope for a nuclear club?
      1. +3
        23 December 2022 12: 14
        what will happen if, in case of victory, NATO personally decides to arrange an operation to "liberate" Ukraine? Fully, with their troops, fleet and aviation[B] [/ b]
        It will be a war between NATO and Russia. With the use of nuclear weapons. Otherwise we won't pull it out.
      2. +3
        23 December 2022 16: 48
        Quote: Mustachioed Kok
        And what will happen if, in case of victory, NATO personally decides to arrange an operation to "liberate" Ukraine? Fully, with their troops, fleet and aviation. With its range of weapons and experience gained from conducting hundreds of military operations in different parts of the world. And the total number of the army exceeding our current army.

        After what we saw in the NWO, I think that everyone has already understood - the result will be extremely sad feel
        1. +1
          23 December 2022 20: 59
          About that and speech!
          I hope everything will not come to such a confrontation and soon there will be a world without SVO. Simply because the prolongation of the conflict only strengthens Ukraine and weakens the Russian Federation.
          Of course, they are trying to say in our country that "yes, we are actually at war with the entire NATO bloc," but these are just excuses far from the truth. Just like once upon a time, Ukraine in 2014-2015 declared that it was at war with the entire Russian army. And when the SVO began, they already really met the Russian army, and many citizens immediately noticed it. So the rhetoric about "we are already at war with all of NATO" and in the event of a very real conflict may come back to haunt us in the same way. Namely, we will sharply understand that NATO has truly come, and BEFORE that it was not even close.
  8. +9
    23 December 2022 04: 58
    they will be equipped with the most modern weapons and equipment.
    70% already there!
    1. +3
      23 December 2022 06: 46
      Dadada 70% is already there! About 5 years ago already shouted about it. But where is the result?
      1. +5
        23 December 2022 08: 27
        But where is the result?
        - in the pockets of certain people... feel
    2. +4
      23 December 2022 06: 50
      Looking at the equipment and weapons of our fighters, you somehow begin to doubt this.
      1. -9
        23 December 2022 15: 00
        Looking at the equipment and weapons of our fighters, you somehow begin to doubt this.
        Have you seen a lot? From what distance were you looking? From the combat couch?
        1. +5
          23 December 2022 16: 50
          Quote: 72jora72
          Have you seen a lot? From what distance were you looking? From the combat couch?

          You know, oddly enough - from the combat couch. Looking at TV. Where all the equipment and weapons that our soldiers use is very clearly visible.
    3. +6
      23 December 2022 06: 51
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      70% already there!

      yes - yes - yes, not long ago there was an article about the amount of "most modern equipment" in the RF Armed Forces ... 30 percent as a maximum, if for all branches of the military - only the Strategic Missile Forces are in the lead there ...
  9. +6
    23 December 2022 05: 36
    The existing divisions and brigades are catastrophically understaffed, which was shown by the SVO. And they create new ones, where to take people? Fools don't, they know very well, but how many new general positions are possible for friends! That's the real goal!
    1. +4
      23 December 2022 16: 56
      Quote: tone
      The existing divisions and brigades are catastrophically understaffed, which was shown by the SVO. And they create new ones, where to take people?

      The firm belief that the increase would come at the expense of 700 contract servicemen was especially amused. I wonder what this confidence and such brave calculations were based on? If even before the start of the NWO, people didn’t particularly go into contract service and there was a constant shortage, with the beginning of the NWO, many people immediately broke their contracts, then where will they get so many now?
      We are already well aware of the level of analysis and intelligence for planning the conduct of the NWO. If the analysts on the new reform of the army were prepared by the same specialists, then I begin to fear ...
      1. -2
        24 December 2022 04: 03
        There is a good way to drag people into the army, which has been tried more than once in history - create poor economic conditions in the country with high unemployment, and then the contract army for all these hungry poor fellows can become almost the only place to feed and earn money! Then you turn on propaganda and appoint an external enemy who is to blame for all the troubles and give the command to the FAS.
  10. +7
    23 December 2022 05: 38
    1.
    . At the same time, interesting solutions are proposed in the field of conscription.
    what is hidden behind this phrase?
    2.
    . the army will be able to effectively resist all potential adversaries in all strategic directions - both existing and expected ones.
    who are expected? All the western direction to NATO, who else to expect there, Martians?
    3.
    . existing brigades will increase their performance and turn into divisions
    it should have been done or returned a long time ago.
    4.
    . How long it will take to achieve all the goals, not yet reported
    did they take Wang to the staff of the government? Man proposes, God disposes.
  11. -15
    23 December 2022 05: 47
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Now everything is decided on the battlefield


    Little is now decided on the battlefield. A little earlier or a little later, but the former Ukraine will be destroyed.
    Something else is important. At the moment, Putin, Shaigu and Co. have provided a nuclear shield and sword.
    Because NATO is still afraid to go to a direct clash with Russia.

    But this does not mean that this situation will last forever. Technology is moving forward and if we fall far behind the West, we will be destroyed. Our obsolete (after some time) missiles, submarines and strategic bombers will be neutralized.
    Therefore, just in the rear, in the economy, there will be a strategic race. The good news is that this will not be a competition of economies as a whole, but a competition of military-industrial complexes. It is enough for us to keep the lethality of our weapons and keep the means of protection up to date.
    1. +9
      23 December 2022 06: 02
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      The good news is that this will not be a competition of economies as a whole, but a competition of military-industrial complexes.

      It seems I have already seen it somewhere ... And I even remember how it ended. And that's how it ended, I was not at all pleased.
    2. -7
      23 December 2022 06: 11
      The former Ukraine is the last trump card for cheaters from the West. Brazil or Morocco will not attack us. The atom will be at war with Japan, and therefore the Japanese and NATO will be waiting for our weakness.
      Making every effort to make us fall apart. Unfortunately with our people it is possible. The history of many teaches nothing. But those who are not taught by history are taught by Comrade Stalin (or his like-minded people).
    3. +4
      23 December 2022 06: 57
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      provided a nuclear shield and a sword.

      how did they get about nuclear weapons, it will never be applied, we have 2/3 bureaucrats of federal significance there have real estate and their kids also study / live there, plus their money is also there.
      1. -11
        23 December 2022 07: 44
        Got this "argument" already. First, lies about 2/3 of the officials. Lies about real estate, children and money. And secondly, the decision to launch a nuclear strike is not made by officials by voting, but by the president and the military command.
        1. +2
          23 December 2022 08: 11
          Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
          not officials by voting, but the president and the military command.

          I think first his entourage, and then he himself ...
          1. -4
            23 December 2022 14: 05
            Yes Yes. Voting. All your 2/3 will gather, several hundred thousand people and will decide whether to strike at the USA or, better, at Moldova.
        2. kaa
          0
          23 December 2022 11: 36
          Well, real estate is not officials - real estate and children belong to a small handful who pay officials.
          1. -4
            23 December 2022 14: 13
            2/3 officials = hundreds of thousands of people and several hundred people - is there a difference?
            1. kaa
              0
              26 December 2022 05: 52
              There is no difference here if the leaders have relatives and means - "there"
        3. -1
          24 December 2022 04: 05
          And taking into account the fact that VVP himself has one of his daughters married to a Dutchman and lives in Holland, which he himself spoke about on TV 7 years ago when he was asked: "She is an adult and we have a free country, everyone chooses where he want to live."
    4. +8
      23 December 2022 08: 35
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Now everything is decided on the battlefield


      Something else is important. At the moment, Putin, Shaigu and Co. have provided a nuclear shield and sword.
      Because NATO is still afraid to go to a direct clash with Russia.

      The nuclear shield and sword were provided by Stalin, and the USSR developed it.
      Putin, Shoigu and co. didn't do a damn thing. Everything that is presented as "new developments" (with rare exceptions) are projects of the 1980s.
      NATO has never and under no circumstances intended and is not going to move to a direct confrontation with a country with thousands of warheads and delivery vehicles. When they say that they are going to destroy us, we are talking about the economy, corrupting the authorities (children abroad, accounts in foreign banks), corrupting youth, imposing their values ​​(LGBT, tolerance, multiculturalism), and not about direct war.
      1. -9
        23 December 2022 09: 11
        The nuclear shield and sword were provided by Stalin, and the USSR developed it.

        Those nuclear shield and sword are long outdated.

        Putin, Shoigu and co. didn't do a damn thing. Everything that is presented as "new developments" (with rare exceptions) are projects of the 1980s.

        Projects are not scary. Be afraid of what is on combat duty. Moreover, the most modern missiles, and not those that are easy to shoot down with modern means.

        NATO has never and under no circumstances intended and is not going to move to a direct confrontation with a country with thousands of warheads and delivery vehicles.

        I wouldn't be so sure. Peace initiatives have greatly reduced both the number of warheads and delivery vehicles.
        There may come a time when the enemy's defenses can provide them with relatively reliable protection. If we were armed with what was under Stalin, we would have been destroyed long ago. The same thing would probably have happened if we had the Strategic Missile Forces of the 2000 model. So do not underestimate the merits of the current leadership.
    5. +1
      23 December 2022 09: 06
      And the United States will watch how Russia uses nuclear weapons. Previously, we believed in air defense there are no analogues. Yes, there is no analogy, but there are numbers. How can this air defense protect against a massive strike.
      1. -3
        23 December 2022 12: 30
        But is air defense bad? quite at the world level, nothing will protect against a mass attack, and indeed the entire border, each object cannot be covered
        1. +3
          23 December 2022 12: 59
          Tell the residents of Donetsk about this. And don’t forget about the flight of two UAVs into the depths of Russia.
          1. -1
            24 December 2022 18: 15
            But can air defense do something during shelling?
        2. Alf
          +3
          23 December 2022 18: 25
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          But is air defense bad?

          Why "bad"? It's excellent! But Engels and Diaghilev say something else .... But I don’t even want to talk about the Headquarters of the Navy in Sevastopol.
          1. +1
            23 December 2022 20: 42
            No, well, air defense has nothing to do with it, it’s just that the curvature of the earth’s surface let us down, it turned out to be wrong. And the insidious enemy vilely used just those means of destruction for which our air defense was not designed (as soon as they dared!) And so every time.
            1. Alf
              +1
              24 December 2022 17: 44
              Quote: UAZ 452
              and so every time.

              Well, this never happened, and here again ...
      2. +6
        23 December 2022 17: 02
        Quote from Deon59
        We used to believe in air defense there are no analogues

        And they also believed that there were no taxes in electronic warfare. Together with the tale about the all-powerful air defense, our electronic warfare also merged into a bubbling tank
    6. +2
      23 December 2022 16: 59
      Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
      The good news is that this will not be a competition of economies as a whole, but a competition of military-industrial complexes.

      We will not pull this competition with the NATO countries even without the participation of the United States, what are you talking about?
  12. -2
    23 December 2022 05: 48
    We will hold our fists for the correctness of the measures.
  13. +7
    23 December 2022 05: 50
    Another stupidity with an increase in the age of conscription from 21 years old with a limit of 30 years. Firstly, service in the Armed Forces for one year will not affect the country's defense capability, from the word at all. In a year, you can only learn to "paint fences" and "build dachas." Secondly, a young man under 30 will have time to get a job, start a family, have children, get loans, and what - hello Army? And who will feed his children and pay loans? This will end with the fact that young people will flee the country and, having spent up to 30 years in a foreign land, will not return back. This could and would have made sense if a law had been passed that the positions of officials and deputies could only be held by those who have served in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and undergo military service from the age of 18. Thirdly, again another reorganization of the Armed Forces, but after all, someone carried out a reorganization and this "someone" has a full name. I don’t even want to talk about “modern equipment and weapons”.
    1. -2
      23 December 2022 12: 31
      before the age of 21, he "will have time to get a job, start a family, have children, get loans"???? funny
      1. +1
        23 December 2022 13: 16
        If it's funny to you, then it's funny. But in my post it was not only about 21 years old, but also about the fact that serving for 1 year will not affect the country's defense capability in any way - in a year you can only train a specialist, and about the fact that everyone should serve, and not just the children of "collective farmers" , and about the fact that those who run away abroad and settled there, after 30 years will not return .....
    2. -3
      23 December 2022 17: 07
      Quote: Vladimir M
      Another stupidity with an increase in the age of conscription from 21 years old

      Personally, I think that this is the right decision. It has long been necessary to raise the bar of conscription at least up to 20 years. In order not to have an army of green brats under mother's tutelage, whom the President strictly forbade to fight. Some kind of sur - there is an army, but there is no one to fight.
      But about leaving the deadline of 1 year, it was extremely upsetting - it is stupid to say that a competent specialist can be trained in a year.
      1. +1
        23 December 2022 20: 38
        But about leaving the deadline of 1 year, it was extremely upsetting - it is stupid to say that a competent specialist can be trained in a year.

        First you need to change the whole concept, the content of military service. As it is now, it is impossible to train a soldier in a year or ten. Not doing something for a year or two - the result is absolutely identical, only time and money are spent twice as much.
  14. -9
    23 December 2022 06: 04
    Raising the draft age to 21 is long overdue. Not teenagers after school, but older people should go to the army. Those who received not only a school education, but, perhaps, a secondary technical or higher education. That is, the army and navy will be replenished with older and more educated people.
    Some alarmists write that everyone will scatter abroad, living there until the age of 30, living in a fantasy world. The stupid will run. Smart people understand that they can mobilize even after 30. And, without basic military training, their chances of surviving in hostilities will be much less.
    Those "smarts" who talk with their tongues that it is impossible to teach something in a year should serve in the army. Six months of training gave a very good base for a soldier. For a year, you can train a soldier or sergeant. And on complex equipment or equipment, contract soldiers or professional military men will work after graduating from military universities.
    1. kaa
      0
      23 December 2022 11: 43
      This is training for reservists, not conscription. After a year of training (real, of course, and not ramming snowdrifts), a soldier should not leave for demobilization to lose only the acquired skills - this is money down the drain.
  15. +4
    23 December 2022 06: 11
    Mdaaa...! That's for sure in Russia .... "the revolution has no beginning, the revolution has no end!" Everything we have is revolutionary and we live in a revolutionary way ... that is, "first we will destroy everything to the ground, and only then ..." Then, then ... then "soup with a cat" and "grandmother promised it in two"! (Go or something to buy a vest? At least it would be something to jerk on the chest!)
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  17. 0
    23 December 2022 06: 27
    Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
    At the moment, Putin, Shaigu and Co. have provided a nuclear shield and sword.

    What is the use of this shield and sword if they cannot be used.
    Namely, in Ukraine, our future fate is being decided ... we will bend to the west or we will go further on our own path.
    And the development of the military-industrial complex, the economy is already a private issue ... expires from the goals of the country.
    1. -6
      23 December 2022 06: 44
      If it were not for this shield and sword, we would now be fighting with NATO with conventional weapons. Where do you think we would now hold the defense? Not even now, but in the summer of 2022. On the outskirts of Moscow?
      Former Ukraine is our Finland 1940
      1. 0
        23 December 2022 06: 52
        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        If it were not for this shield and sword, we would now be fighting with NATO with conventional weapons.

        And we are at war with NATO with conventional weapons ... is it not enough for you to hit our strategists?
        On New Year’s Eve, the Ukronatsiks will again hit something somewhere in the Moscow region ... and you can’t answer them with Sarmatians ... such a fork and an infection with this nuclear weapons.
        1. -2
          23 December 2022 07: 35
          The Ukronazis will again hit something somewhere in the suburbs ... and you can’t answer them with Sarmat ...

          And that we have nothing but the Sarmatians?
          What's the panic? Why inflate these purely propaganda injections to the level of serious problems?

          And we are at war with NATO with conventional weapons ..

          We are not at war with NATO. They only supply weapons and mercenaries. Even if just the armies of Poland and Romania would start fighting on the territory of the former Ukraine, everyone would feel the difference. Not to mention that there are still armies of Turkey, Germany, Great Britain and France. Not to mention the army and navy of the United States and Japan.
          1. Alf
            +2
            23 December 2022 18: 28
            Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
            We are not at war with NATO. They only supply weapons and mercenaries

            And the result is NOT happy. And what will happen if NATO decides?
      2. +3
        23 December 2022 17: 12
        Quote: Expert_Analyst_Forecaster
        If it were not for this shield and sword, we would now be fighting with NATO with conventional weapons. Where do you think we would now hold the defense? Not even now, but in the summer of 2022. On the outskirts of Moscow?
        Former Ukraine is our Finland 1940

        Despite the fact that we have nuclear weapons, Ukraine was not afraid to fight with a nuclear power. Moreover, they are fighting very successfully, without looking back at our nuclear arsenals. Do you really think that other, more powerful states, with the same nuclear weapons, will be afraid of this? So - a vigorous loaf is, of course, good, but you have to fight with conventional weapons.
    2. +6
      23 December 2022 08: 03
      Again the reincarnation of the voice of reason, Gonzalez, Sanchez in an expert analytics predictor?
      1. +2
        23 December 2022 20: 07
        lol He enchantingly disgraced himself with his expert analytical predictions on the "Reporter" and left in English (quietly sometimes comes in without attracting attention) ...
    3. -2
      24 December 2022 04: 13
      In fact, all human existence dances from the economy. What kind of economy will you have and the army. If the economy is at the level of some 1812, you carry out at least a hundred reforms and adopt a billion resolutions, but you will not be able to build a space rocket.
  18. -9
    23 December 2022 06: 42
    RF is doing everything right. This is the first major war of modern armies after the Iran / Iraq.
    Suddenly Himars and Solntsepek, UAVs and LMURs fired. But the javelins did not shine from the word at all, unlike Stugna and Kornet. Three axes in a real war showed the stalemate of titanium parts in towed artillery. The army needs to be changed, and not only in Russia.
  19. +4
    23 December 2022 07: 22
    it sits in the reindeer breeder's genes that - airplanes are good, but deer are better ... And what kind of military education do you need to have in order to return to the old but good Soviet model of the structure of the army - regiments, divisions, etc., call reform ...
  20. +7
    23 December 2022 07: 49
    We don’t have everything, thank God .. Before the NWO, they assured that there were no enemies, only partners, in accordance with this, the military-industrial complex was rebuilt and reforms were carried out in the army. Now, the partners have become unfriendly countries, new reforms .. Only on the basis what?
  21. +6
    23 December 2022 08: 08
    New units and formations will also appear in the aerospace forces. These will be three directorates of aviation divisions, eight bomber regiments and one fighter regiment. Army aviation will be expanded with six new regiments.


    And where will they take the pilots ???


    Eight bomber regiments, even 2 squadrons, are 200 pilots and the same number of navigators. And the school is one. And to prepare them, you need at least 4 years.
    1. +10
      23 December 2022 08: 22
      "Where will they take"? How, where? - "everything will somehow grow by itself" - on trees, in beds, and most importantly, you don’t even need to water it. wink In our country, if you look without prejudice, at the actions of "leading hands", then all their actions come down to: 1- "throw "slogans", 2- "draw up a" road map ", 3-" bury the "road map" in view of the new the reality of the world situation and the changed internal conjuncture"... Yes
      1. Alf
        +1
        23 December 2022 18: 30
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        "Where will they take"? How, where? - "everything will somehow grow by itself" - on trees, in beds, and most importantly, you don’t even need to water it. wink In our country, if you look without prejudice, at the actions of "leading hands", then all their actions come down to: 1- "throw "slogans", 2- "draw up a" road map ", 3-" bury the "road map" in view of the new the reality of the world situation and the changed internal conjuncture"... Yes

        You forgot about the main, fourth point - to master the allocated funds.
    2. +1
      23 December 2022 09: 27
      I think by the method of accelerated cloning, because it was not in vain that Chubais Rusnano masturbated. hi
    3. +3
      23 December 2022 11: 44
      Quote: avia12005
      And where will they take the pilots ???

      In the same place as the planes for these regiments laughing ...
      1. +1
        23 December 2022 20: 30
        And where will they take the pilots ???

        In the same place as the planes for these regiments laughing ...

        What?! Have you already adapted to collect pilots at aircraft factories ?!
        1. +1
          23 December 2022 22: 06
          Have you seen the Terminator movie? laughing
    4. +1
      23 December 2022 17: 20
      Quote: avia12005
      And where will they take the pilots ???

      This is the first problem. I would single out the second one - but where will the bombers get planes? The Su-24 has outlived its time, the Su-25 (with a stretch of the bomber), although it is still fighting successfully, is no longer produced anywhere and will not be again. Tu-22M, Tu-160 and Tu-95 are all somehow more missiles from afar ... They do not use bombs in Ukraine, and in the event of a serious mess with NATO over their territory they will not be used either. Su-34 - the cat cried. You, apparently, are a knowledgeable person in this matter, what do you think, what will be staked on, which aircraft, when they talk about increasing the number of bomber aviation formations?
      1. Alf
        0
        23 December 2022 18: 31
        Quote: Pantsuy
        what will be staked on, what aircraft, when they talk about increasing the number of bomber formations?

        On the AN-2, regiments of night bombers will be created. How, there is no AN-2 either ???
        1. 0
          23 December 2022 18: 34
          Quote: Alf
          On the AN-2, regiments of night bombers will be created

          By the way, Azerbaijan used them perfectly as a means of opening the air defense of Armenia.
      2. 0
        23 December 2022 20: 28
        Su-34 - the cat cried.

        Su-34, like other aircraft, we have much more than normal ammunition for them. Therefore, the existing ones essentially do not fight - there are no adjustable planning bombs, missiles have to be counted, if not in pieces, then in dozens across the country, and free-falling ones must be dropped - you need to do this directly above the target, but they will be shot down guaranteed. And what's the point of riveting new planes without solving the problem with modern weapons for them?
      3. 0
        24 December 2022 06: 01
        There were about 34 Su-150s in the Aerospace Forces at the beginning of the SVO. In the year of NAPO them. Chkalova produced up to 18-20 pieces. A simple calculation shows that 8 regiments will do in 10 years.
  22. +7
    23 December 2022 08: 11
    First envelope: "Blame everything on the predecessor"
    Second envelope: "Do reform/reorganize"
    Third envelope: "Write 3 envelopes"
    1. -2
      24 December 2022 04: 18
      In the West, "blame everything on the predecessor" works successfully, when the parsleys playing the role of "leaders" change there every few years, but here, when the same people have been for decades, it is problematic to blame the predecessor, the envelope remains "But who I knew we were deceived again, and again we believed"
  23. +9
    23 December 2022 08: 24
    No conclusions have been drawn. Emphasis on army aviation. So she is now working from the cabling. And it has no effect on the course of the battle. The saturation of MANPADS is gigantic, and even "Vitebsk" will not help.

    Drones at the squad / platoon / company level are excellent. But what about IMPACT drones (analogous to the "reaper")? Nothing. There is no mention of planning for the creation of regiments. Since there are no drones and it is not expected, apparently.

    Deployment of an additional 7 BAPs. Su-34. The same as with army aviation. When they tried to work actively with entry into the zone, they were shot down by 2 units per day.

    Deployment of divisions... I don't know... apparently, "fight not by numbers, but by skill" - this is not about us. Infantry and artillery, but more - the conclusions of our General Staff.
    1. -6
      23 December 2022 12: 34
      if planes don't fly, will attack drones fly? they will also be quickly knocked out
      1. +6
        23 December 2022 13: 51
        The loss of a drone is much less painful than a trained pilot. This loss can be replaced much faster. We must fight with iron, not with blood.
    2. +2
      23 December 2022 13: 50
      There is a severe crisis of ideas, yes. Especially about the air assault divisions ... However, one must imitate the activity. At the current pace of aircraft production and pilot training, one planned expansion of aviation will take 15 years. And in general, the current war about attack helicopters has raised very serious questions.
      1. +2
        23 December 2022 17: 23
        Quote: Ryazanets87
        There is a severe crisis of ideas, yes. Especially about the airborne assault divisions ...

        On cardboard (but landing) BMD ...
    3. +1
      23 December 2022 20: 24
      Infantry and artillery, but more - the conclusions of our General Staff.

      The conclusion is even more concrete - more general posts are needed. The rest are unimportant details.
  24. +2
    23 December 2022 08: 33
    the situation is reminiscent of the pre-war era, remember at first the mechanized corps were disbanded, and then they began to form anew ....
  25. -4
    23 December 2022 09: 23
    With an increase in the age of conscription, we are guaranteed to get a workers 'and peasants' Red Army. At the grassroots level. at the level of a soldier, there will be problems with the development of technology. The only hope is for wholesale computerization, such as the fact that a fighter will learn to click on the buttons before being called up.
    1. -1
      23 December 2022 17: 27
      Quote: Not the fighter
      With an increase in the age of conscription, we are guaranteed to get a workers 'and peasants' Red Army.

      Quite the opposite - by the beginning of the draft, a person will already be unlearned at some kind of school, technical school or even university. This is now a boy immediately after school goes to the army. Well, if by that time he managed to master the driving of a collective farm tractor during the summer holidays. And a schoolboy from the city - so he is generally not suitable for anything and is only familiar with a computer.
    2. 0
      23 December 2022 23: 48
      or maybe we don’t need such an army now in which there would be something and someone to press on.
  26. +5
    23 December 2022 10: 20
    not afraid of another reform? maybe, for starters, they will name the names of those party activists who planned their own? they are still trying to lead and sell people on TV ...
  27. +5
    23 December 2022 10: 25
    Unfortunately, looking at how economic and social reforms (national projects and previous projects) failed, one cannot believe in serious advances in the troops and, accordingly, in the course of the NMD. Especially when the same people remain at the helm.
  28. +2
    23 December 2022 10: 54
    Thus, the Moscow and Leningrad military districts will be formed

    Campaign, the capital decided to dissociate itself from the Western Military District, unable to bear the shame. The most "hungry" mobs from the richest district, shame.
  29. +1
    23 December 2022 10: 56
    We have too many generals! fool Who needs to be cut down! hi
    1. 0
      23 December 2022 11: 47
      Quote: senima56
      We have too many generals! Who needs to be cut down!

      Yes you what! So many new posts have been reformed for them! From divisions to new districts! At least one and a half times more will become laughing hi
  30. +3
    23 December 2022 10: 57
    This is all from the category of de-offshorization, the fight against corruption, the digital economy, the increase in well-being - they will chirp, buzz, drank money and disperse. While the main thieves and mediocrity are at the helm in the country, no positive changes should be expected.
  31. +6
    23 December 2022 11: 08
    The plans, I doubt that they will fulfill them well or implement them as they should, literally not so long ago, as part of the reform, they reduced the personnel and the army, they promised new equipment, which did not appear in the troops in any significant quantities, the old rearmament program failed, no armat , Kurgan, coalitions, there are no Su 57s in the Air Force, just as there are no transport workers, tankers, ADRELs about the Navy I generally keep silent about the corvette for 8 years we have been building, and the repair of old ships takes longer than construction, it’s just a shame, well, how can you believe those who allowed this, and the main thing is why no one was held accountable.
    1. Alf
      +2
      23 December 2022 18: 34
      Quote: Codett
      and most importantly why no one was held accountable.

      Because we don't hand over our own...
  32. kaa
    0
    23 December 2022 11: 26
    It's all wonderful, only it should have been a plan for 2016, not 2023 .. And then, too late, there weren’t enough lessons in Syria and Debaltseve ...
  33. +3
    23 December 2022 11: 56
    In accordance with this document, from January 1, 2023, the total number of armed forces should exceed 2 million people. The number of military personnel is brought to 1,15 million people. – 137 thousand more than now

    As I understand it, 850 thousand people are all sorts of clerks in the military enlistment offices and headquarters, song and dance ensembles in the districts, orchestras and a dude from the "military acceptance"? Yes ?
    And how many "athletes" do we have in the "Department of Physical Training and Sports of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation"? What are they busy with? All CSKA has long been in private hands, but management exists. Anyone who served in the military service of his head of the physic, as a rule, did not see it in his eyes. In general, reforms are a good thing, but are we approaching them from the wrong side?
    1. 0
      24 December 2022 11: 06
      If the clerks in the military commissariats and the orchestra, it would be half the trouble. And so, some civil financiers, controllers of financiers and controllers of controllers. Plus dispersed doctors in hospitals, which you can’t send to the war zone. He has a contract to work at a specific place, like a rural FAP paramedic. And in CSKA, a private trader has just the kinds of sports that bring money - football, hockey, basketball. They created joint-stock companies with a "golden share" in the Moscow Region. All Olympic and military-technical sports, i.e. the most costly, but unprofitable, hang like a burden on the budget.
  34. +2
    23 December 2022 12: 01
    New divisions and districts - that's how many new general posts!
  35. -2
    23 December 2022 12: 47
    Well, we survived. Already at the age of eighteen you can’t go into the army, because the people are getting smaller. But the most important thing is when he found a family, a job, goals in life, to pay his debt to the oligarchs in advance. By the way. It took Mr. Shoigu as much as 10 years to comprehend that it was wrong to continue the reforms of the "stool-maker"?
    1. 0
      23 December 2022 23: 35
      It took him the last 10 months to do this. And before that, he had no idea about anything, neither in sleep nor in spirit. He is from the Ministry of Emergency Situations, he had nothing to do with the army. And at parades, exhibitions, tank biathlons and exercises, everything looked great. And he recruited subordinates to match himself, everything was like a selection. They reported to him, and he told all of us and the commander-in-chief that the army now has 72% of new and modern equipment. But the SVO showed that this is far from the case.
  36. +3
    23 December 2022 12: 47
    Another article on the topic
    “Women shouted: hurrah! And they threw caps into the air"

    Putin clearly and clearly said in the same place that there will be no militarization of the economy and the country, everything suits him, since his is going according to plan wassat
    in general, everything is like in this cartoon:
    "Shall we tell them there's no gas on the plane?"
    - No! Smile and wave, smile and wave...
  37. +4
    23 December 2022 14: 41
    To paraphrase the advertising slogan of the 90s ... "A good deed will not be called a reform!" Since 1985, everything has been reformed and reformed. One country is already about ... in general, it turned out badly in the end. Second in line?
  38. +2
    23 December 2022 16: 05
    Quote: dorz
    Why not? There was a plan to build 5 cities in Siberia for 10 trillion rubles. laughing sad

    This is yes.
    The rulers rush about. And they don’t like money, so they come up with mega-cuts.
  39. exo
    -3
    23 December 2022 16: 32
    The plans are big. Here are just landing ships, for such a number of divisions of the Marine Corps, we do not foresee. And VTA aircraft, for new (and old) airborne divisions, too. The queen of the fields is infantry. The main emphasis should be placed on its preparation and equipment. And when we learn how to quickly build landing ships and military transport aircraft, we can think about increasing the Marine Corps and the Airborne Forces.
    1. +1
      24 December 2022 18: 34
      The Airborne Forces will increase due to the air assault units. In other words, airmobile. They need airborne helicopters. And the number of parachute regiments and battalions, as many experts say, must, on the contrary, be reduced.
  40. +1
    23 December 2022 17: 52
    Over the past 25 years, what is this "new reform" in a row?
    1. Alf
      +2
      23 December 2022 18: 36
      Quote: Poru4ik
      Over the past 25 years, what is this "new reform" in a row?

      Only one. Truth never ending...
  41. -1
    23 December 2022 20: 07
    And if the people were offered a choice: medicine, as in Israel, or the army, as in the USSR? It would be interesting to see the result.
  42. 0
    23 December 2022 20: 18
    Of all that has been voiced, only the creation of a large number of new connections and associations is real and concrete. This means a sharp increase in the number of general posts. I have no doubt that in this part the "Shoigu reform" will be implemented in the shortest possible time. New division commanders, commanders, army commanders and district commanders will appear literally tomorrow. But the real deployment of these formations, bringing them to a level of combat readiness that allows them to resist at least the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not to mention NATO - if this happens at all, then in the long term. And it is completely incomprehensible - from where to recruit and support hundreds of thousands of new contract workers, given the demographic situation in the country, the deteriorating economic situation (however, beggars will join the army more willingly, if only because they are fed there). It is not clear how an increase in numbers will solve the main problems that emerged during the NWO - disgusting communications, intelligence, interaction of units and types of troops, cumbersomeness and inefficiency of management, general theft, fraud, ostentation, complete isolation of brave reports from reality? Which of these problems does the formation of even a dozen new divisions solve? Moreover, if these divisions are equipped with weapons of sanctions realities - without modern electronics, which there is simply nowhere to get in the next decade?
    So it remains only to rejoice for the hundreds of colonels who will soon receive generals' stripes, and for our military-industrial complex, which will be able to drive a shaft of junk that has no analogues in the world, posing a greater threat to its crews than to the enemy.
    1. 0
      23 December 2022 23: 11
      New division commanders, commanders, army commanders and district commanders will appear literally tomorrow.

      One This is already good for the army. With the advent of new people from the bottom, there is a possibility that adequate and capable military leaders will appear in the highest command staff, in headquarters. Our army and navy, as shown by the NWO, urgently need a rotation of personnel, especially among the generals.
    2. 0
      23 December 2022 23: 39
      Everything you say is right. The army needs to be changed technically and qualitatively, not quantitatively ... and no money is spared for this
  43. 0
    23 December 2022 20: 53
    At the same time, the number of contractors must <...> practically double in comparison with the current values.

    I think I've heard it before... recourse
  44. 0
    23 December 2022 22: 55
    "new reforms" to cancel the latest reforms and return to what it was. It is interesting that one of the "authors" will be responsible for having to cancel them, as they did not justify themselves in any way and that huge state funds were wasted on their implementation. And now you have to spend to restore and return to what it was before.
  45. 0
    24 December 2022 00: 15
    Quote: insafufa
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    The trouble is that the succession of industry and science in the development of military equipment and weapons has been violated. In the USSR, any plant had equipment (which was not often used, but was simply waiting in the wings) which was intended for the production of weapons and parts for them. Similarly, the institutes had corresponding departments that were aware of the relevant topics and could quickly change their profile to the development of weapons and military equipment. The presence of GOST made it possible to quickly match various components produced by different factories in different parts of the country. In addition, there were many factories and enterprises that duplicated the production of military products and made it possible to quickly increase the mass production of weapons in large volumes. Now all this is gone!

    Stop pouring crocodile tears and pouring your beer tummy lying on the couch. There are vacancies at defense plants, so the employment center bombs everyone with a little kick to work, drives retraining in our region, promises at the expense of the state and decent reservations and salaries. So we reopened the electrical workshops, we made machines for one defense plant, we launched the old Soviet ones, where the stuffing was changed, where one of the two machines was assembled. So there, a turner needs high-quality, imported equipment and modern Russian equipment works in three shifts without rest. Everything rests on personnel, what is the use of these Soviet workshops with equipment from the mid-60s and late 70s, you can’t put children and women there like during the Second World War.

    That's right, everything depends on the frames! To prepare them, it is necessary to create a full-fledged state program for years, to interest young people, to give young specialists housing prospects. Will they do it is the big question...
  46. 0
    24 December 2022 00: 34
    how many "reforms" have poor Russians had to endure since Gorbachev's perestroika!!!! e-maeeeee....and who can name at least one reform that was brought to an end, as intended, and gave a huge positive result? never!!!...
    and as always - a magnificent announcement of the planned cardinal changes ... without voiced responsible personalities, television support at the initial stage ... and quiet oblivion after some time has passed.
    Russia is a country of dreamers. as my beloved mother-in-law said: "the head thinks in a million, but the heart feels - to beg:"
  47. 0
    24 December 2022 09: 28
    Ha! I once wrote here that the brigades need to be removed and full-fledged divisions made! Slippers thrown! Brigades are for plumbers and grain growers! "According to my" plan, the Marine Corps still needs to be brought on a par with the Airborne Forces, and instead of it there should be full-fledged divisions of the Coastal Forces.
    The only thing that is not clear is why the Moscow military district? Why is he when there is a ZVO?
    1. 0
      24 December 2022 18: 39
      Not all brigades will be converted into divisions. Apparently, motorized rifle and tank divisions and brigades will exist in parallel. The brigades are likely to be army corps.
  48. 0
    24 December 2022 10: 11
    Again, baloney from Shoigu and Gerasimov, whom it is high time to replace with more capable people
  49. 0
    24 December 2022 20: 18
    Plans of various kinds for 2022 have been fulfilled on the whole. At the same time, the army is conducting a special operation to protect Donbass.
    Those. denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine is cancelled. Now we only defend Donbass?
  50. +1
    24 December 2022 20: 25
    There is only one question, but when will this series of military reforms in the country still end. If my memory serves me, the reforms began in 2007 with the advent of another genius of military thought A. E. Serdyukov, then another military reformer with a construction bias began to reform the army, the results are sad, well, let’s say not very good, this was shown and shown by the Ukrainian company. I won’t list all the shortcomings that the war revealed, only the lazy one didn’t write and doesn’t write about it. to open schools, where to get people.
  51. 0
    24 December 2022 20: 35
    Quote from moneron
    and who can name at least one reform that was completed as planned and gave a gigantic positive result?

    The Serdyukov reform was completed. End of combat capability of the RF Armed Forces:
    1. Complete reduction of formations and personnel units that were previously intended for deployment in the event of general mobilization, destruction of the existing procedure for increasing the combat and numerical strength of the Russian armed forces during the period of immediate readiness for the state to wage war. Retention of only units and constant readiness connections.
    2. The reduction of the officer corps by almost two and a half times, the elimination of the institute of midshipmen and ensigns.
    3. Replacing the majority of military posts in command and control agencies, formations and units of the rear with civilian personnel, actively introducing commercial support systems into the logistics system.
    As a result, in the absence of a mobilization deployment base, ground forces, at best, having exposed all other directions, could allocate no more than 100 people to one armed conflict. Thus, it was impossible in principle to create a group sufficient to wage a local war, since the total number of armed forces is 000 million people, and there is simply no one to concentrate 1 people in such conditions. It was pointless to call up the existing reservists in the country: they had neither serviceable weapons and military equipment, nor the necessary reserves of material and technical equipment, nor an organizational core for the formation of combat-ready units and formations.
    The very fact that we had 20% of the units on constant readiness meant that with full mobilization deployment, Russia could increase the number of combat-ready military formations five times during the threatened period. And with such a number of formations and personnel units, the ground forces could form a grouping sufficient, at least in quantitative terms, to resolve a local war.
    Starting from February 24, 2022, the harmfulness of this reform and the fears of specialists who warned about its consequences were confirmed.
  52. +1
    24 December 2022 21: 26
    All these meetings are a complete talking shop. You need to prove your professionalism in war, and not in offices, discussing some large-scale plans that, at best, will be implemented in 3-5 years. Let the Minister of Defense better tell us where the new equipment is that he has been talking about for the past few years.
  53. 0
    24 December 2022 22: 43
    Why the hell do we need five MP divisions? Are we planning to storm the city of Washington?
    For example, in the USMC, the most aggressive are THREE divisions plus one of the reservists. I’m generally silent about landing equipment.
  54. 0
    25 December 2022 17: 58
    Shta??? How will we land 5 MP divisions? And 2 more airborne divisions?
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