Klim Zhukov: Russian ideology is still the ideology of the bourgeoisie

The speaker of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, Valentina Matvienko, has previously stated that there is a demand for ideology in Russian society. At the same time, the politician noted that the latter is already being formed through the statements of the President of Russia.

Let us recall that a single ideology cannot be established in our country, since ideological diversity is enshrined in the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

According to Matvienko, Russia does not need "unanimity", as in the USSR, which she called disastrous. But according to the politician, a system of concepts should be formed that would give the Russian society answers to the questions that concern it.

In turn, historian and blogger Klim Zhukov believes that despite the constitutional ban, there is an ideology in Russia. Moreover, according to the expert, it exists in any, even a small, public group, not to mention the state.

At the same time, as Zhukov put it, the ideology of the bourgeoisie is flourishing in our country. And each major financial group has its own. That is why citizens cannot understand what exactly the authorities want from them, and most importantly, what awaits our country tomorrow.

Returning to Matvienko’s statement about the “request of the Russian society,” the blogger recalled that Russian President Vladimir Putin had already formulated the postulates of the future ideology: collective instead of individual, spiritual instead of material, and the preservation of Russian values.

According to the historian, all this is good, but there is a nuance. If we are talking about the collective and spiritual, then the owners of factories, newspapers, steamships will have to switch to wages, like most of our citizens, and stocks, real estate and other luxury items will be transferred to the state.

As Zhukov put it, of course, this will not happen. Consequently, today we are following the path of the Russian Empire, where 97% of the inhabitants "existed" on ideological principles, and the remaining 3% "squandered" the common property for their own pleasure.

The historian recalled that everything ended badly then, and urged not to repeat the mistakes of the past today.

Comments

[Million]

Right! What else is there to add .. And there is no need for a long text.

[Tatyana]

In the country, the main goals of the life of society are determined by the STATE ideology, and according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, there is no STATE ideology in Russia. And since the country does not have its own STATE national ideology, then its place is UNOFFICIAL - for foreign grants - it will take ALIEN ideology in favor of the ruling class in the country and its curators abroad .. Namely.

Ideological education in the Russian Federation has long been "sour". The country's dominant bourgeois ideology of the American economist M. Friedman, set forth in his book "Capitalism and Freedom" is no longer called "bourgeois", but is called class abstractly simply "market" with elements of the so-called. "monetarism" (i.e. bourgeois pursuit of financial profits).
In this case, you can not equalize the concept of real capitalism with all its flaws with the doctrinaire idea of ​​the American Milton Friedman in the form of a kind of speculative social project, brought to life, to build a supposedly ideally fair capitalism on Earth all over the world. Due to what?
Due to the alleged existence in the world of some anarchist absolutely "free" from everyone and every world market, which is supposedly absolutely "clean" from profanities and dishonesty both on the part of the participants in the capital market, goods (services) and labor, and from pressure on their nation state... And at the same time, Friedman naively assumes that all market participants free from the state are initially at all times equal in their life start and can always become rich if they just want it. This is pure utopia and bluff!
Behind this attempt by Friedman to whitewash capitalism lies a very definite goal taken by Washington's apologists. Namely.
The purpose of this American bluff is that "native" sovereign countries, uncontrollably and duty-free on the part of their governments, erroneously freely and defenselessly from competition, open access to their home markets for the United States and American multinational companies to sell foreign goods and buy up "native" wealth by foreigners. , enterprises and natural resources.
At the same time, the reduction of native state property to the maximum - to "0" - is promoted by the "market people" exclusively as a public good. For the state supposedly no longer needs to control anything, no one needs to be punished, and there is no need to regulate trade and production either. That all members of society will become such honest and law-abiding entrepreneurs that, therefore, it will no longer be necessary to protect the population from crooks, thieves, robbers and murderers. And therefore, the supposedly national state, as an anachronism, will disappear by itself as unnecessary, and there is no need to defend it at all. For the distribution of material goods "from above" at the state level will not be required, because everything will be regulated by this "ideal" capitalist market. well and those who do not fit into the market - this is their problem. Let, they say, they survive on their own, as they can. These include, in particular, all the so-called. "superfluous" people: pensioners, disabled people, children, etc. - all those who "did not fit into the market." On the other hand, they should be "happy" with their freedom from the fattening abstract-bureaucratic state that has oppressed them for centuries, in the way that anarchists have always dreamed of for centuries.

TOTAL. All this the ideology of Milton Friedman about the alleged existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market is the anarchist propaganda of the American establishment to decompose the national security of sovereign states to their complete elimination and subordination of their resources in favor of US multinational companies.
Unfortunately, this ideology is UNOFFICIALLY adopted by the Russian ruling elite as a STATE ideology. Implemented in practice by the government of the Russian Federation, the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, deputies of the State Duma and the Federation Council of the Russian Federation
А HSE is a forge of bourgeois young cadres from local "natives" in this comprador economy and its apologists as the US COLONIAL ADMINISTRATION and the collective West in Russia.
At the same time, the reform of Soviet education was promoted by Soros from 1986 under Gorbachev with his so-called. "new thinking"! And the notorious "curly" marketers ": Nabiulina, Siluanov, Gref, etc. - are still in power!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Tatiana

In the country, the main goals of the life of society are determined by the STATE ideology, and according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, there is no STATE ideology in Russia. And since the country does not have its own STATE national ideology, then its place UNOFFICIALLY - for foreign grants - will be taken by ALIEN ideology in favor of the ruling class in the country and its curators abroad ..

Tatyana, are you familiar with the idea that social being determines social consciousness? In other words, that ideology is just a superstructure on an economic basis? "The forge of the bourgeois young cadres" and the middle-aged ones, are the prevailing social and economic relations. You proclaim any ideology, all the same, under the current conditions, the "buy-sell" ideology will prevail, and it is not the Zionists and Friedman who are to blame for this, but the ruling class, i.e. local financial capital.

[Tatyana]

Do you know how revolutions are made and people are brainwashed?! And what exactly is social engineering? Who is doing it, why and with whose money?

[runway-1]

Greetings!

Tatyana, a you know the idea, that social being determines social consciousness?

That must have been some subtle irony! It is a shame not to know that Soros, in close cooperation with the liberal reptilians, has long been creating world evil and mercilessly tormenting our spiritually strong State ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: WFP-1

It is a shame not to know that Soros, in close cooperation with liberal reptilians, has long been creating world evil and mercilessly tormenting our spiritually strong State...

Oh, I don’t know about the State, but I strongly suspect that our Tatyana is being mercilessly tortured by Friedman and the Zionists, I don’t know how to help her then.

[runway-1]

Morally killed, I'm worried about Tatiana (send barrels of oranges) ... How will we be without her ???

[sdtreew]

and you know that ideology is primary, and the economy is secondary.
The economy is an economy, the economy is built by people guided by certain "goals and meanings" - that is, ideology, and not vice versa.
"buy-sell" - this is the basis, and it will always be, an attempt to ignore this basis - there is voluntarism leading to collapse and liquidation, and ideology is "why buy-sell, to whom and how much ...", and not cancellation this very principle.
Every time comrades criticize the Russian Empire, they forget what happened to the USSR.
First you set a goal, and then you act, and not vice versa. But it is forbidden to set a goal for the state - state ideology is prohibited.
and local financial capital is weak, with a rate of 7% with money for two days from the Central Bank, it is actually not there, foreign (American and other) capital is strong - they dominate and only the state can somehow balance their dominance, but the state is forbidden to have develop "goals and meanings" ...

[tonicio]

All right! It's time to remove the noodles from the ears that we hung on TV and on some resources

[Monster_Fat]

I have always said and will say that outright lies, unwillingness to tell the truth, distortion of facts and their interpretation and interpretation for the sake of anyone, not the desire to call a spade a spade, prohibitions on "objectionable" facts and interpretations - always lead to incorrect assessments of the situation, the inability to correctly assess the course of events and find the correct and accurate methods of influencing these events in order to obtain a correct and predictable result. Most importantly, we must understand what kind of state we have built. And we have built a kleptocratic state. And what kind of "ideology" does kleptocracy have? Spirituality? Or "life according to concepts"? According to the rule: "their-everything, the rest-the law"? All these chatter about spirituality is to justify the poverty of the majority of the population and the fact that those in power consider those below to be nothing more than "second oil" and nothing more. About the people, they suddenly began to remember only when they started to burn in one place. What "volumes" on his shelf was the President talking about? Which authors, do not remind? Spirituality....

[kalibr]

Quote: tonicio

It's time to remove the noodles from the ears that we hung on TV and on some resources

Everything is up, right? If it hangs for so long, then maybe it’s not worth it, maybe your ears will freeze?

[Dart2027]

The historian recalled that everything ended badly then, and urged not to repeat the mistakes of the past today.

Does the historian happen to remember how the construction of the USSR ended?

[filibuster]

Since the USSR, like any other authoritarian / totalitarian regimes, degenerated naturally with the aging of the elites, here you need to choose either we have a monarchy, when there is a monarch, the next one will be one of his offspring, everything is clear, everything is clear, the pros are clear, the cons are either democracy when every 4 years, maximum 8 years, power changes, but taking into account our vertical of power, then a significant part of the elite, the pluses are clear in the same way, the minuses are clear, but now, apparently, a democratic system is preferable to a monarchy.
And in the USSR and now in Russia there is neither a monarchy nor a democracy, but a kind of hybrid that has absorbed a greater number of minuses from everywhere.

[Boris Sergeev]

Ie, the whole thing comes down to the turnover of rulers? Chancellor Kohl, for example, ruled for about the same period as L. I. Brezhnev, so that in terms of "democracy" the USSR was at the level of the FRG. By the way, Brezhnev's alleged "stagnation" looks against the background of the current rapid economic growth. And no repressions, no "Russian New Martyrs". And no oligarchs either.

[filibuster]

Ie, the whole thing comes down to the turnover of rulers?

Well, how else is it, any ruler is just a person, with his complexes, weaknesses, shortcomings, and who is still guaranteed to grow old, lose popularity, accumulate his own pool of mistakes, unsuccessful statements, miscalculations, etc.
As for Kohl and Merkel, in Germany the chancellor does not have as many powers as Putin now has, and before that the general secretaries in the USSR.

[sdtreew]

If a person does not have authority, then he is not a ruler. Let's call a spade a spade.
The President of the Russian Federation is a position with powers less than that of the Chairman of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces (for example, in the time of Stalin, this position was held by Kalinin).

[sdtreew]

At least three periods can be distinguished in the existence of the USSR, and in the third period, when the comrades officially adhered to the ideology of Marxism - that is, the rejection of the state and, as it were, built communism all over the world - the state did not exist and the country was collapsed along the administrative Leninist borders. There was nothing natural in this, it was a direct result of politics, what was built was built.

[Dmitry Tsarevich]

People like you or your parents ruined, my opinion is that you put questions like that. They treated you softly, they saw people, but it was necessary to burn out the liberals with a red-hot iron.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Dmitry Tsarevich

they saw people, but it was necessary to burn out the liberals with a red-hot iron.

Burn out the Central Committee of the CPSU, the leadership of the army, special services, etc.?

[Akuzenka]

Does the historian happen to remember how the construction of the USSR ended?

Of course, he remembers and in his videos he perfectly analyzed the betrayal of the elites of the USSR, who wanted to convert power into money only for their loved ones. And you don't know?

[Dart2027]

Quote: AKuzenka

Of course he remembers

does not understand that this was an inevitable process. "Historian" damn it.

[Akuzenka]

does not understand that this was an inevitable process. "Historian" damn it.

Oh yeah! Betrayal is an inevitable process. The family and senior dignitaries betrayed the Republic of Ingushetia, the leaders betrayed the USSR. And by a strange coincidence with foreign participation. An absolutely inevitable process.

[Dart2027]

Quote: AKuzenka

Oh yeah! Betrayal is an inevitable process.

Show me a humanity that is capable of building communism.

Quote: AKuzenka

Family and senior dignitaries betrayed RI

Betrayed, but they were not going to build a utopia.

[Akuzenka]

Show me a humanity that is capable of building communism.

Poke your other half.
Of course not, he needs to be educated. Here you are, clearly not brought up.

[Dart2027]

Quote: AKuzenka

Of course not, he needs to be educated.

How in the USSR? I remember the results.

[kalibr]

Quote: AKuzenka

Of course, he remembers and in his videos he perfectly analyzed the betrayal of the elites of the USSR, who wanted to convert power into money only for their loved ones. And you don't know?

What's the point of his deliberations? One fart and nothing more. The caravan went on and on!

[sdtreew]

I doubt that he could have parsed their betrayal very well...
This is what happens, in the Soviet functionaries brought up an irresistible love for money?
You forget that the traitors were not quietly thrown into your pocket by the Martians, but they were brought up and supported by the party and the people. After Stalin, the comrades officially (having changed the Constitution for this) returned to the path of building communism, turning off the path of building socialism - the party began to educate traitors.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Dart2027

Does the historian happen to remember how the construction of the USSR ended?

And do not tell me where capitalism came from?
Slogans sounded only about the renewal of the socialist system. Why did the people go for our Borka, Yeltsin? Do you remember what he "sang" about.
Privilege Fight!
How are the privileges now and how is the "renewed" Union doing, which he declared so vividly, huh?
So do not talk about "ended", finished. Purposefully and without even blushing from the lies.
And in 1993 they also clearly showed what will happen to those who are against the line of the now "democratic party"

[Dart2027]

Quote: Sovetskiy

So do not talk about "ended", finished.

Quote: Dart2027

does not understand that this was an inevitable process. "Historian" damn it.

[voice of reason]

Our ideology is freedom within traditional values. the most interesting thing is that not only positive phenomena belong to our traditional values, but also you yourself understand what ...

[Retvizan1974]

A typo, probably .. "According to the hysteric, all this is good, but there is a nuance."
Klim Sanych is good as a film-series reviewer or as a narrator of historical facts. As soon as he begins to "get into politics" ... Well, this is not his, not his! ..

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Retvizan1974

As soon as he begins to "get into politics" ... Well, it's not his, not his! ..

So refute it, who's stopping you? And here we appreciate your talent.

[filibuster]

Nothing Klim Sanych walks on thin ice, hinting at fascism in one very large country, and mentioning the clogging with a sledgehammer on camera, directly personalizes the country very much.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote from: filibuster

Nothing Klim Sanych walks on thin ice, hinting at fascism in one very large country, and mentioning the clogging with a sledgehammer on camera, directly personalizes the country very much.

Well, you are the same, fascism, fascism. It’s not clear, is it anti-fascism that we have, and all coincidences, as they say, are random.)))

[Rus_80]

Admins, correct the text "from the words of the hysteric" to "historian", presumably.

[parusnik]

Simple and intelligible .. and you can also call it revolutionary conservatism ..

[Bayun]

There is no ideology in Rus' today. And good.

God forbid building LIFE again on the books of bearded wise men-philosophers or bearded clergymen. The cult worked while there was a TALE: "Russian = Orthodox", the idea - with the TALE: "goal = communism". Output? It's not about religions-ideas-philosophies. They are a PERSONAL affair of a person, and building a state on them is an empty undertaking.

There is a simple fairy tale among the people: "Live, live and make good." Let's make it the basis of Russia. Target? Children should live better than their parents. EVERYTHING!

It's time to bring the "cow" of common sense down to mother earth from the "hayloft" of sciences and philosophies.

Loan interest and speculation in a Russian fairy tale - Articles of the Criminal Code. Instead of the free-thinking "equality before the law" - justice: "To whom more is given, the demand is stricter according to the LAW." "Roman law" - the past. Russian Truth is modern.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bayun

There is no ideology in Rus' today. And good.
God forbid building LIFE again on the books of bearded wise men-philosophers or bearded clergymen.

And some people just don't want to understand.

[Bayun]

If the media, the Network and propaganda are turned on for the right MEANINGS, then in a couple of years it is really possible to change the country. No need to scientifically invent and philosophically substantiate. How people live and what they think is fair should be written into laws and regulations.

For example. The paths near the Kurchatov Institute were not paved. First, people trampled them, and then they laid asphalt. And who is stopping us from doing this in our entire state system?

[t-12]

Merchants need money. Everything else (ideology, culture, state) that restricts trade is not necessary for traders. The maximum of ideology (i.e. ideological images) is joyful advertising characters. The state's maximum is hired deputies obediently pressing buttons.

[1razvgod]

He’s right about something, because in reality the oligarchs (it’s still a big question how they became them) are a capitalist, and it was said before us: at 100 percent he violates all human laws, at 300 percent there is no such crime that he would not risk, at least under pain of the gallows...im spiritual to one place

[Skorin]

There is a native ideology in Russia.... Its provisions are simple and unpretentious. 1. Those who do not have a billion, let them go to hell (businessman S. Polonsky, 2008). 2. The state doesn't owe you anything (O. Gladkikh, head of the youth policy department of the Sverdlovsk region). 3. Russians are lazy and don't work well. You give more migrants... The results are logical.

[John Smith]

even the Yeltsin Center has its own mausoleum - in 2023, 372 million will be spent on it
the bosses don’t forget where they come from, for comparison, they gave 2016 million to Lenin’s mausoleum in 13 ,,,,

[tihonmarine]

At the same time, as Zhukov put it, the ideology of the bourgeoisie is flourishing in our country.

Is there anyone else who doubts when the Mausoleum is draped, when the leader of the country that defeated Nazism is not known to children and middle-aged people, did the Victory come by itself without the people who believed and went into battle with the words "For the Motherland for Stalin", in which 26 people died my uncles, grandfathers and their sons. What kind of ideology can there be when scum speaks from the stands and curses my people.

[Fangaro]

Quote: Dmitry Tsarevich

People like you or your parents ruined, my opinion is that you put questions like that. They treated you softly, they saw people, but it was necessary to burn out the liberals with a red-hot iron.

Tsarevich? ))) Do not read VO comments at breakfast. There will be no problems with digestion after dinner.
Tsarevich...

[steelmaker]

, "the ideology of the bourgeoisie flourishes in our country."
You know. The ideology of the US bourgeoisie and Russia is fundamentally different! The meaning is different. The Russian bourgeoisie is based on theft, and the US bourgeoisie is based on the subjugation of everyone, the US bourgeoisie!

[sdtreew]

Russia has no national bourgeoisie. A bourgeois who has all his property registered in London, he is suing in London, his accounts are in offshore, and his money is in dollars - this is the American bourgeois.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

You know, I never expected from a "trafficker" ... From his father-in-law, he went to Lugansk with something there (I don't really have contact with him), I think it's useful, but it means that either I'm wrong about the capitalists, or they understood something. Well, I welcome it. I think this is a special case.

[Vashek]

There is an ideology, and for 30 years it has thoroughly decomposed the population. This is the thirst for profit. Rip what you can, and then "what do I care about everyone before you, and you care about me" (film "The Last Inch")
With this ideology it is difficult to win something - the country has no egregor.

[runway-1]

As Zhukov put it, of course, this will not happen. Therefore, today we are following the path of the Russian Empire, where 97% of the inhabitants “existed” on ideological principles, and the remaining 3% “squandered” the common property for their own pleasure

Yes, there are too many coincidences, the differences are only in the specifics of modern mass culture and new technologies...

[Maks1995]

A bit surprising....
It seems that everything has been clear for a long time.
They lied, deceived, gave empty promises, took out the loot ....

But a bunch of people seriously describe and find out "how do we equip Russia" and "what red lines are most relevant in Putin's speech", as if those who once destroyed the USSR and brought the country to the position of a neo-colony (raw materials for goods) will suddenly correct themselves and be real do everything, develop, spiritually, collectivists, fair, etc .....

Does he believe that the ex-president, who lobbied Boeing instead of IL and TU, who kept his son in Omerik until he was forcibly expelled from there, will really develop the country?

[Illanatol]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Tatyana, are you familiar with the idea that social being determines social consciousness? In other words, that ideology is just a superstructure on an economic basis?

There are different opinions on this, by the way. Including such an opinion that being can be a product of the actions of those who are subjective and have the necessary resources.
The latter, by the way, have become very rich since the time of Marx and much more effective tools have been created for formatting the consciousness of the masses.
There is less and less objective and more and more subjective in our being. Progress, however.
Capitalists and the capitalist "Protestant ethic" (according to Weber) appeared earlier than capitalism itself, as a ready-made socio-economic formation.
And the economic basis is not something monolithic and homogeneous, practically any economy is multistructural. And, having saddled the desired trend in economic development, it is possible to strengthen and expand the desired superstructure.

[Alexander_First]

A very relevant article "Russian ideology is still the ideology of the bourgeoisie" Klim Alexandrovich Zhukov described everything very correctly. There is an ideology in the Russian Federation - this is the ideology of the anti-national comprador bourgeoisie. Or thieves-traitors. Everything else (about patriotism, spiritual values ​​and bonds) is just a smokescreen. "Judge by their deeds."

[Dmitry Karabanov]

Quite right! A state ideology is undoubtedly needed! Enough of this cosmopolitanism and liberalism!