President: the military potential and capabilities of almost all major NATO countries are being used against Russia

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President: the military potential and capabilities of almost all major NATO countries are being used against Russia

Today, under the chairmanship of Russian President Vladimir Putin, the annual meeting of the collegium of the Russian Defense Ministry was held in an expanded format. The head of the military department, Sergei Shoigu, reported on the progress of the special operation, the number of weapons and military equipment received by the troops in 2022, and the social security of servicemen.

Taking into account the date of the board meeting, it became the final one for this year and the program for at least 2023. Significant theses and statements from the speeches of Putin and Shoigu are already actively disseminated and discussed in the Russian press and social networks. Here is some of them.



In the course of the Ukrainian conflict, Russia is confronted by the entire collective West, NATO resources are used to the maximum. A constellation of more than 500 satellites operates in the interests of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, providing intelligence data on a continuous basis. At the same time, the Kyiv regime uses terrorist methods of warfare and regularly commits war crimes with the tacit approval, and even on the direct instructions of its Western curators.

Nevertheless, our soldiers, sergeants and officers are fighting for Russia courageously and steadfastly.

- stressed the president.

Under the circumstances, Putin said, Russia would continue to strike Ukrainian infrastructure and military targets.

Speaking about the recent partial mobilization, Putin noted that certain problems were identified during it, which must be resolved as quickly as possible. First of all, it is necessary to modernize and digitalize the work of military commissariats. It is necessary to improve the interaction of military registration and enlistment offices with local and regional authorities.

The Minister of Defense, in turn, noting the growing threats from the North Atlantic Alliance, proposed taking measures to create and strengthen the group of troops in the north-west of Russia and increase the number of the Russian Armed Forces to 1,5 million military personnel, including 695 thousand contract soldiers.

In general, a preliminary analysis of the policy statements of the head of state and the minister of defense allows us to conclude that the Russian army is waiting for quite a significant reform, which is necessary due to various shortcomings revealed during the NWO, and because of the growing threat from the United States and NATO.

Next year, the army will receive many different weapons, much more than in 2021-2022, including various UAVs. But an increase in the production of weapons should not undermine the country's economy, it is necessary to look for a balance in solving these problems.

The modernization of the army should take place using high-tech developments, including artificial intelligence. The speed of interaction and decision-making at the horizontal and vertical levels must be accelerated, in combat conditions brought to seconds.

The confrontation with the West in Ukraine can be long, while the course towards achieving the goals of the NWO does not change. There is no point in negotiating with Kyiv in the current situation, primarily because the Western curators of the Zelensky regime do not want to recognize the rights and take into account the interests of Russia.

Putin knows the real numbers of losses in the NVO, but, as he notes, it was no longer possible in another way. The start of the special operation was inevitable, and its results were guaranteed.
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  1. +7
    21 December 2022 17: 46
    Russia is now reflecting another historical crusade of the West against Russia! Only a fool or a traitor does not understand this, which threatens all of us and Russia!
    While we keep the system, but a stab in the back can be at any moment .. We need to be ready for any development of the situation and God forbid if Russia gives up slack .. I’m even afraid to imagine what they will do to us, avenging everything
    1. +12
      21 December 2022 18: 16
      It would be more correct to talk about the extent to which NATO uses its potential. If we talk about reconnaissance, planning, arms deliveries, we can probably talk about having a fairly significant degree of involvement.
      But it must be understood that NATO uses its modern material, and most importantly, personnel base very little.
      And keep in mind this eternal "if" - and "if" to get involved with all your might, but, for example, on the territory of Ukraine, what then? nuclear weapons? Already now all steps should be calculated and ready for implementation.
      Therefore, to say that we oppose the West precisely in the military component in full is excessive.
      Rather, this confrontation is precisely of an existential nature - the West will endlessly increase the degree of its involvement, the only question is whether we will be able to find a foothold and respond in such a way that there would be no desire to test us for strength. The main thing is whether the elite will understand that either THEY will do everything to become one with the people, or there will be no one and nowhere to spend their wealth. Because their business partners in the west don’t need them for nothing either ... they will also take away everything from them and smear them on the wall.
      But in the past time, nothing new, except for shouting to the people - "this is not the time to rock the boat", "everyone is to defend the Motherland" (and we will stand aside), so far it has not been noticeable in power circles.
      1. +5
        21 December 2022 18: 24
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        But in the past time, nothing new, except for shouting to the people - "this is not the time to rock the boat", "everyone is to defend the Motherland" (and we will stand aside), for now not noticeable in power circles.

        Do you still hope that the leaders will change their attitude towards the country? It's been thirty years...
        1. 0
          21 December 2022 20: 39
          Judging by the pluses and minuses, here the number of believers in this and those who do not believe is equal (at the moment).
          Your deeds are wonderful, Lord ...
          1. +4
            21 December 2022 20: 59
            Hello! hi
            Quote: WFP-1
            Judging by the pluses and minuses, here the number of believers in this and those who do not believe is equal (at the moment).
            Your deeds are wonderful, Lord ...

            Yes, here you see how it is, and it’s scary not to believe, because then it’s clear what awaits us tomorrow, and you can’t believe, since for thirty years there has been nothing but promises. And there are plenty of bots.
            PS And the Chinese today have desktop quantum computers on sale, and we ...
            1. +2
              21 December 2022 21: 16
              Alas, the Americans also launched a thermonuclear reactor, albeit for a short time, but with a positive energy output, and are also slowly implementing a program to prepare for a flight to the moon ...
              1. +1
                21 December 2022 22: 03
                So we are no worse! Also recently in Moscow, with the participation of the President, the highest Ferris wheel was opened !!!
                And so that the Chinese would not be particularly arrogant, they also did it for a short time))))
            2. +1
              21 December 2022 22: 00
              Colleague, take my word for it - the most radical changes have taken place in the minds of our colleagues on the site. By the way, I was the first one who gave you a "plus".
              1. +3
                21 December 2022 22: 16
                Quote: Quote Lavrov
                Colleague, take my word for it - the most radical changes have taken place in the minds of our colleagues on the site. By the way, I was the first one who gave you a "plus".

                I had no doubt about the plus.))) And yes, there have been changes in the "active old people". And not weak. However, on the street too. As they say, "we are on the verge of a grand nix"? I look forward to next year with great trepidation. I would like that would be later, I'm afraid, to be honest. It's all moving too fast.
        2. -4
          21 December 2022 23: 27
          Everything is constantly changing. People have changed a lot in thirty years. Yes, and the top - what was and what has become. Now the situation has developed a turning point for many, and not only at the top. There are enough runners both above and below. And the question rises more and more often point-blank: either you are with the country, or not.
          And one should not think that in historical terms the situation is now radically different from what it was under Ivan the Terrible - when he fought the old elite, under Peter 1 - the same thing, under Stalin. There was always enough of all sorts of hucksters and those who care for the state. And now there are many such people, I'm sure of it.
          1. 0
            22 December 2022 17: 36
            yes, yes ... we need to consolidate with those fat cats who killed millions of people over 30 years and calmly "worked" in Courchevel as long as possible ... otherwise the evil owls will come and introduce LGBT propaganda ... historical analogies with Stalin , by the way, the most inappropriate ...
            1. 0
              22 December 2022 18: 04
              And what does consolidation with fat cats have to do with it? Who is about Thomas, and who is about Yerema. Of those fat cats and bandits that were 30 years ago, more than half are already rotting in the ground.
              Or do you consider everyone who is now in power to be fat cats? All deputies, all officials from the district and above, and in the army - from the major? And all corrupt, no one cares about Russia? So what?
              1. 0
                22 December 2022 18: 15
                I don't need to ask questions, I can ask them myself. look at the database of their nature and results and draw conclusions. the scale of the corruption catastrophe is amazing ... and most importantly, no one is really hiding ...
                1. 0
                  22 December 2022 18: 30
                  So what are you calling for? Disperse the General Staff, the government, the Duma? Or do you want aliens to come and put things in order?
                  1. 0
                    22 December 2022 19: 04
                    I urge you to think before consolidating with fat cats ... otherwise there are already examples of such consolidation in history ... for example, in Italy in the first half of the 20th century ... or if we are Russians, then we are a priori right and we are on the side of the forces of light ?
                    1. 0
                      22 December 2022 19: 16
                      This consolidation with fat cats was given to you. What, besides them, there is no one else, or what? And, once again: who do you classify as fat cats? By status, by wealth, or simply by their faces?
                      1. 0
                        23 December 2022 10: 20
                        In this context, fat cats are bourgeois as a class. And somehow you missed my passage about the a priori rightness and an example of consolidation. Do you only hear yourself?
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  2. +13
    21 December 2022 17: 47
    President: the military potential and capabilities of almost all major NATO countries are being used against Russia
    we also have: unparalleled, on new alchemical principles, "warriors 2.0" and so on ... and so on ..
    1. -13
      21 December 2022 17: 51
      Javelins and Himers were also on alchemical principles in advertising booklets, but turned out to be the same log as others laughing
      1. -1
        21 December 2022 17: 59
        What is your evidence, may I ask? It is impossible to verify what they write in the TG channels, the equipment goes to the front all the time, which means they are destroying it with something.
        1. -3
          21 December 2022 18: 15
          Do you have the Internet at hand, is it difficult to see the performance characteristics and analysis of each type of weapon? If you are really interested, there is a lot of information, including Russian counterparts. Or do you want me to personally leave a link to each resource? Even this site has articles on the subject. Seek and find.
          1. 0
            21 December 2022 18: 27
            Well, you still advise articles by Kirill Ryabov. Lately, I've been trying not to take anyone's word for it. Low-grade propaganda tired.
            1. 0
              22 December 2022 12: 50
              I don't know who you are talking about. There are more than enough sources, including those that were available years before the conflict.
  3. -4
    21 December 2022 17: 47
    Well, here are the key points. There will be no negotiations, CBO until victory. to strengthen and build up the army. The goals and objectives of the NWO have not changed.
    1. +12
      21 December 2022 18: 02
      Quote: Plate
      If the results of wars were directly guaranteed, then, probably, they would not exist, don't you think?

      Do you want the president to say that when starting the war, he and his entourage did not calculate that NATO would fit in, if not with the Armed Forces, then with their financial and military means? The war is still a long one to come and society must trust its leadership.
      1. +3
        21 December 2022 18: 33
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        and society must trust its leadership.

        You can believe, dear Aaron, in God, but you can trust the leadership or not. But there are fewer and fewer reasons to trust him.
    2. -1
      21 December 2022 18: 02
      What are their goals and objectives? Today you often hear the words denazification, demilitarization?
      1. -2
        21 December 2022 18: 11
        Quote: ASAD
        What are their goals and objectives? Today you often hear the words denazification, demilitarization?

        These are tasks, and the liberation of this territory from Ukro-Bandera is the goal.
        1. +2
          21 December 2022 20: 07
          Bullshit! That's not how things are done, that's how they play cards. Believe it or not... fellow Does anyone else believe? what
    3. +2
      21 December 2022 18: 08
      Quote: voice of reason
      Well, here are the key points. There will be no negotiations, CBO until victory. to strengthen and build up the army. The goals and objectives of the NWO have not changed.

      Yeah ... improve, deepen, consider ... Somewhere I have already heard all this.
    4. +1
      21 December 2022 22: 05
      Colleague, everything is absolutely true, and most importantly - CORRECTLY write!
      But one request - please tell us exactly what should happen, what the situation will be, so that we all understand - everything, today we have fully fulfilled the goals of the NWO?
      1. +3
        21 December 2022 22: 22
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        But one request - please tell us exactly what should happen, what the situation will be, so that we all understand - everything, today we have fully fulfilled the goals of the NWO?

        To be honest, I don't remember what he would say to me. I suppose that we have the honor to communicate with artificial "intelligence".)))
        1. 0
          22 December 2022 12: 31
          Good afternoon! hi
          You may not believe it, but I also had such an assumption ... lol
      2. -1
        22 December 2022 12: 06
        Quote: Quote Lavrov
        Colleague, everything is absolutely true, and most importantly - CORRECTLY write!
        But one request - please tell us exactly what should happen, what the situation will be, so that we all understand - everything, today we have fully fulfilled the goals of the NWO?

        Of course not. The tasks are being completed, but the border is still far away.
  4. +13
    21 December 2022 17: 48
    interesting to know what results are guaranteed
    1. +3
      21 December 2022 17: 54
      If the results of wars were directly guaranteed, then, probably, they would not exist, don't you think?
    2. +3
      21 December 2022 18: 01
      It is guaranteed that all these disguised Generals who migrated here, who from the government of the Moscow Region and who else from where, will not bear any responsibility for the failures.
  5. +11
    21 December 2022 17: 48
    Next year, the army will receive many different weapons, much more than in 2021-2022, including various UAVs.

    From the 14th to the 21st, what prevented you from doing this? The notorious 1,5 million sets of warriors, where satellites from Rogozin's trampolines (as opposed to 500 foreign ones), communication, in the end, is not at lamp stations, but is closed down to the grassroots levels! The cost of these mistakes is enormous - the lives and health of heroic soldiers, sergeants and officers
    1. -1
      21 December 2022 17: 52
      President: the military potential and capabilities of almost all major NATO countries are being used against Russia
      shoving junk is not a potential, but an opportunity to update it. - a common truth, Mr. President.
    2. -8
      21 December 2022 17: 55
      Say thank you for admitting your mistakes more or less openly. In fact, there are few precedents in history when the authorities did this.
      1. +3
        21 December 2022 17: 59
        Say thank you for admitting your mistakes more or less openly.
        Did he say that
        against Russia, the military potential and capabilities of almost all major NATO countries are used
        and this is my fault as a president, including, it seems not.
        1. -2
          21 December 2022 19: 12
          This is not, but it outlined the problems existing in the Armed Forces. And he has long blamed NATO for the conflict.
    3. +4
      21 December 2022 17: 57
      Quote: Gvardeetz77
      Next year, the army will receive many different weapons, much more than in 2021-2022, including various UAVs.

      From the 14th to the 21st, what prevented you from doing this? The notorious 1,5 million sets of warriors, where satellites from Rogozin's trampolines (as opposed to 500 foreign ones), communication, in the end, is not at lamp stations, but is closed down to the grassroots levels! The cost of these mistakes is enormous - the lives and health of heroic soldiers, sergeants and officers

      My friend's son died. Just found out today.
      The column was hit by artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      Multiple shrapnel wounds.
      And the father himself is paralyzed ... recumbent.
      And who is to blame that our army does not have the means to suppress the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      1. +7
        21 December 2022 18: 01
        And who is to blame that our army does not have the means to suppress the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

        If you answer this question, then you can pick up an article from the floor (but there are "probably" among them people with big stars on their uniforms and, most regrettably, even on their chests), so we will consider it rhetorical.
        1. +4
          21 December 2022 18: 02
          Quote: Gvardeetz77
          And who is to blame that our army does not have the means to suppress the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

          If you answer this question, then you can pick up an article from the floor (but there are "probably" among them people with big stars on their uniforms and, most regrettably, even on their chests), so we will consider it rhetorical.

          Unfortunately, this is so.
      2. -3
        21 December 2022 20: 51
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        My friend's son died. Just found out today.
        The column was hit by artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
        Multiple shrapnel wounds.
        And the father himself is paralyzed ... recumbent.
        And who is to blame that our army does not have the means to suppress the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

        Means, that is, but only to clear the territory from enemy artillery, infantry is needed. You can make lunar landscapes for an infinitely long time, but if there is no infantry to clean up these territories, then what is the point in such an expenditure of ammunition?

        The mobilized will be trained, sent to the troops, and the matter should move from the "dead point".
  6. -6
    21 December 2022 17: 52
    900 satellites against the Russian Federation is simple and this is not all satellites! By the way, Putin is already in the Urals
    1. +3
      21 December 2022 18: 44
      Quote: opuonmed
      900 satellites against the Russian Federation is simple and this is not all satellites! By the way, Putin is already in the Urals

      URAL I ask you to write with a capital letter! This is the backbone of Russia, it was and will be hi
      And the GDP in the Urals, "Vanguards" takes on combat duty and YARS Cartoons, so to speak)))
  7. -4
    21 December 2022 17: 52
    On August 25, 2022, Russian President V.V. Putin signed Decree No. 575 “On Establishing the Staff Number of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”, which determined the number of Russian Armed Forces to be 2 people, including 039 military personnel. The decree comes into force on January 758, 1. The question is, how did the reindeer breeder intend to build up a group of 150 million military personnel in the northwest without mobilization? After all, there should also be troops on the rest of the territory of the Russian Federation.
    1. +2
      21 December 2022 18: 14
      Probably the deer will get into operation .80-100 helicopters per brigade, and the crews, at least 200 pilots and even more technical staff. Where so many people will be taken.
    2. -1
      21 December 2022 20: 04
      Quote: Vladimir M
      The question is how the reindeer herder was going to build up in the northwest

      Why do you call your dad like that, maybe it's justified, judging by your comment, but it's ugly. Or who are you talking about?
    3. 0
      22 December 2022 08: 32
      and who said that there will be no mobilization??? will be after NG
  8. +3
    21 December 2022 17: 53
    The Minister of Defense, in turn, noting the growing threats from the North Atlantic Alliance, proposed taking measures to create and strengthen the group of troops in the north-west of Russia and increase the number of the Russian Armed Forces to 1,5 million military personnel, including 695 thousand contract soldiers.

    There were, if I am not mistaken, 1 military personnel (the rest are civilians serving the army), plus 031 thousand mobilized and 000 volunteers.
    Thus, 1 are already available and another 350 will be called.
  9. +5
    21 December 2022 18: 01
    Apparently the undead Internet was turned on. Internet Warriors laughing
  10. -1
    21 December 2022 18: 02
    Putin knows the real numbers of losses in the NVO, but, as he notes, it was no longer possible in another way. The start of the special operation was inevitable, and its results were guaranteed.

    1. Well, it means that our enemies are right that the numbers of our losses, announced for the people and for Putin, are "two big differences" belay
    2. After 10 months of the beginning of the SVR, it is probably still possible to tell us then, because of what, why did the SVR begin?
    3. I would also like to clarify what specific results we expect? feel
    1. +2
      21 December 2022 22: 32
      Quote: Corona without virus
      иwhyWhy did SVO start?

      Because its was inevitable. Strongly promote such a message.
      True, there are uncomfortable questions. And when did you realize this inevitable inevitability? And why didn't they do it in 2014, when it was easier and more appropriate to do it?

      Quote: Corona without virus
      what concrete results do we expect?

      Judging by the way it goes, it is not the result that is important, but the process itself. Don't you find?
      1. +1
        22 December 2022 12: 36
        Everything seems to be as usual here: for any situation, an appropriate explanation / statement is invented and confidently voiced (convincing or not very convincing or not at all convincing, they don’t really care).
        1. 0
          22 December 2022 13: 58
          Quote: WFP-1
          for any situation, an appropriate explanation / statement is thought out and confidently voiced

          In this they are masters. Only their explanations work only on the inner contour. Outside, no one gives a damn about it - no one can be deceived.
          1. 0
            22 December 2022 14: 11
            Only their explanations work only on the inner contour. Outside, no one gives a damn about it - no one can be deceived
            In principle, everything is so, although we can say that the explainers still work on the inner circuit much more successfully (although not 100%) than on the outer one (there the efficiency is very low) ...
  11. +2
    21 December 2022 18: 05
    We have all heard about the potential of NATO, so our military industry yesterday had to move more actively. This is a high-tech war, we need to make appropriate adjustments as quickly as possible.
    1. -4
      21 December 2022 18: 17
      A monkey with a club has no chance of defeating a pack of hyenas, to
      1. +1
        21 December 2022 19: 02
        There are always chances! depending on what kind of club, if the club kills gyet in a swing, then it is possible to win!
  12. +5
    21 December 2022 18: 06
    The President got a little excited! The potential and possibilities are somewhat greater. NOT A SINGLE TANK. AND NOT A SINGLE PLANE of Western production has yet appeared. And much more. Or they supply junk. hi
    1. 0
      21 December 2022 19: 04
      as I understand it, this kotavasia will be until 2024, perhaps we will see everything and tanks and sama and missiles and strategist drones
  13. +3
    21 December 2022 18: 08
    And earlier they wrote everywhere that the West is getting rid of junk.
    What is this potential?
    The desire to again dump everything to the west and whitewash one's own "it turned out as always."
    Claims claims, but our oligarchs are selling oil to NATO, from which they distill diesel fuel and gasoline. And then Ukrainian tanks refuel with supplies ...
  14. +7
    21 December 2022 18: 15
    "Next year, the army will receive many different weapons, much more than in 2021-2022, including various UAVs."
    This empty chatter, we've been hearing since 2000. I would like to hear who sent into battle in February 2022 "reformed" aircraft (of homeopathic strength), without strike and reconnaissance UAVs, thermal imagers, with sloppy communications, without a proper grouping of reconnaissance satellites, etc. How many lives paid for this "wise guidance". And who will answer for it.
    1. +3
      21 December 2022 18: 47
      In general, I can’t even imagine what will happen to electronics and microcircuits.
      The same Milandr, having flown under American sanctions and having lost both materials and silicon
      factories in Germany and Southeast Asia stopped supplying chips to almost all enterprises.
      At best, he sells the leftovers and sends letters that there will be no more.
      We are talking about dozens of different microcircuits including microcontrollers, memory, processors and more.
      There is simply nothing to replace them.
      And this is avionics, air defense systems, equipment for ships and submarines.
      1. 0
        21 December 2022 19: 09
        yes no there is a micron in Kaliningrad and others and yes factories are being built even under 7 nano this is in the Russian Federation if th)
        1. +5
          21 December 2022 20: 38
          What factories, who will sell equipment under 7 nm? China even has problems with this, they also have imported scanners. The domestic lithograph is only conceptually designed, it will be cut for another 5 years at best. Well, in addition to chips, a bunch of technological chains still need to be mastered - from the production of silicon substrates to banal sterile rooms. Until 2030, all this will be built, and this is according to optimistic estimates. Now only gray imports or parallel imports from China remain.
          1. -2
            21 December 2022 20: 59
            I know this, but micron makes chips! even 250, etc., etc., before military needs, this should be enough quickly not to build, I understand! https://www.mikron.ru/products/
            when someone lobbied for the interests of intel in the Russian Federation and ignored the elbrus, I really hope those have already been imprisoned! the Russian Federation does not immediately jump on those technical processes that are 2-5-7 in the west, etc., etc., but I really hope the base has already been created! and yes, quantum PCs went for 8k bucks in China, they are already being sold)))
            1. +1
              22 December 2022 00: 18
              What Micron in Kaliningrad are you talking about?
              Not confused with the Riga Alpha? In the Iskanders, there will be enough chips from it.
              Micron in Zelenograd.
              There is also Angstrom.
              But they confidently do only 0.6-0.13 microns, which was passed by the leading companies 20 years ago.
              Then even the two of them will not be able to replace the nomenclature of what Milandr did.
              And no one will give them a license for ARM and Cortex cores.
              1. -2
                22 December 2022 01: 46
                well, at least the Russian Federation has e2k architecture, at least its own, but how do you like basalt? and you are talking about processors for iskanders, yes they will find where to make them even in the Urals on an optomechanical)
                1. 0
                  22 December 2022 02: 26
                  In NIISI in Moscow there is a mini-factory where processors and memory are made.
                  There is a similar site in Kurchatnik, where they made a series like 1890 and 1990.
                  But in any case, this is the level of 20 years ago.
                  For avionics, for example, aircraft such as the Su-34 and Su-30 do not need more.
  15. -1
    21 December 2022 18: 15
    Everything is said correctly, I do not observe contradictions.
    By the way, another Sumerian MiG-25 and Mi-8 were destroyed today.
    1. +2
      21 December 2022 18: 44
      The MiG-25 has not been in the Armed Forces of Ukraine for years since 26-28. They were decommissioned there in the early 90s, in Russia the last ex-Shatalov (after Voronezh) MiG-25RB were decommissioned around 2014.
      They left only the Su-24MR as scouts.
      Ukraine ksati also owned such. But does not apply them - it is not necessary. Yes, they are outdated with the advent of UAVs.
      1. +2
        21 December 2022 18: 50
        I'm sorry, I'm sorry, there is a Su-25. At the same time, I communicate on the English-language aviation forum, I did not have time to switch.
  16. +6
    21 December 2022 18: 15
    Everything is clear. But with whom was the army of the Russian Federation preparing and preparing to fight? We are talking about the approach of NATO to our borders, and why are we now indignant about the confrontation with NATO. We are talking about a hybrid war and at the same time we are not ready to oppose it. they won't leave us alone and everything will be "adult"
  17. +6
    21 December 2022 18: 19
    Well, otherwise the "bots" on the Internet constantly echoed that in 2014 it was impossible to solve by Ukraine, because they were not ready, but as we see, they are not ready in 8 years either, since we see that next year there will be changes in the army and its equipment and what were the errors.
    As for the ending, it was impossible to do otherwise, but in 2014 we had Yanukovych, the legitimate president of Ukraine at that time, who seemed to be asking for our help, but "someone" was crazy and decided to leave it as it is, you never know the West will impose sanctions. It was possible then to decide, but we have what we have now.
    1. -2
      21 December 2022 18: 49
      sergey why do you explain so vaguely, not someone blew it, but Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich, every accident has a full name
    2. -1
      21 December 2022 19: 14
      Putin himself said that he believed in the West and wanted peace, but it turned out as always! that's all ! and the West and the United States did everything according to their plan and led everything to this! and now what we have is what we have, we need to draw conclusions and win, there’s nothing to fix!
  18. 0
    21 December 2022 18: 32
    I was pleased that the GDP paid great attention to the problems of the army ... An increase in the strength (up to 1), a gradual increase in the service life, the transition to a divisional system and some other issues related to defense ...
    The lessons of the NWO were not in vain ... The Donetsk OVVKU will be created ...
    Let's see how it works out...
    1. +4
      21 December 2022 21: 52
      Quote: yuriy55
      Let's see how it works out...

      As always, it will be.
  19. 0
    21 December 2022 18: 36
    President: the military potential and capabilities of almost all major NATO countries are being used against Russia
    . It's been a long time, it's clear.
    It is also clear that for our PEOPLE, it will cost dearly, as always !!! The upper ones are just lucky that our people, the majority, have the concept of MOTHERLAND, this is not an empty phrase, it is a defining life line ...
    We want to live as we want and no one can tell us!!! This is what our people stand for, they are ready to make many sacrifices and will not let anyone deviate from this path.
  20. +5
    21 December 2022 18: 40
    I read it and smiled.
    What kind of military potential of the NATO countries against the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine is used besides money, arms supplies, intelligence and other types of assistance?

    Yes, if only NATO aircraft were used against us there, then hundreds of modern strike fighters such as Eurofighter and F-35 would appear over Ukraine, which would take control of the entire sky of Ukraine based on the data of dozens of AWACS aircraft that Europe has NATO countries.

    Our entire grouping (including the remnants of the Black Sea Fleet), in this scenario, would have been defeated in just a week - by various tactical aircraft missiles and JDAM-type bombs.

    Therefore, it would be correct to say that there is a war with Ukraine supported by the entire Western world.
    So more precisely.
    1. 0
      21 December 2022 20: 40
      Hybrid, in modern terms.
    2. -2
      22 December 2022 11: 58
      Quote: Osipov9391
      Our entire grouping (including the remnants of the Black Sea Fleet), in this scenario, would have been defeated in just a week - by various tactical aircraft missiles and JDAM-type bombs.

      Yah? Maybe an hour and a half?
      After 9 minutes from the start of the war between NATO and Russia, melted stones would have remained from GB ... This has already been announced ...
      Even today it can be completed in a short time according to the American patterns of warfare ... Humanism and philanthropy, their mother ...
  21. 0
    21 December 2022 18: 55
    The conduct of "SVO" caused irreparable damage to the prestige of the Armed Forces and Russia. By the time of the duty meeting of the board of the Defense Ministry, Donetsk, including hospitals, was once again shelled, despite the fact that "gestures of good will" were justified by the need to protect the inhabitants of Donbass. So where is she? Who will be responsible for leaving the Kharkiv region and Kherson, the regional center of the Russian Federation? Are you planning to return it?
    1. -1
      22 December 2022 08: 36
      why be responsible for leaving? it was done on purpose
      1. +1
        22 December 2022 10: 33
        They deliberately handed over the regional center of the Russian Federation a month after it was accepted into Russia and shaking hands in the Kremlin. After this, the president himself must ask for his resignation.
        1. 0
          22 December 2022 11: 58
          when they took the regions, some were generally more than half under Ukrainians
  22. +2
    21 December 2022 19: 16
    If I understand correctly, Shoigu suggested. Divide ZVO- into MVO and LenVO. Form 3 new divisions and increase 7 brigades to divisions. In each military district, form 1 Art. division and 1art. reserve brigade. In each OA and TA, form 1 mixed division and 1 army aviation brigade. Additionally, form 8 bombing and 1 fighter regiments. In my opinion, 8 (too lazy to review) helicopter brigades. In the Airborne Forces plus 2 divisions, deploy the MP from the brigades in the Division.
    Ps. Fuck your scope.
    1. 0
      23 December 2022 09: 25
      General positions for all these formations and associations will be introduced in a month. And the specific filling of their personnel, weapons and equipment - sometime later, if possible. So let's rejoice for hundreds of current colonels - tomorrow's generals!
      1. +1
        23 December 2022 14: 08
        Yes, if it is serviced, then let the colonels become generals.
        Personally, I am very pleased with the increase in aviation power. I am writing from the beginning of the NWO that the number of aircraft in the VKS is not enough.
        MO proposes to create 8 BP and 1 IP. In the age of modern electronics, a bomb can definitely be dropped by a Fighter. It is not necessary to make a special aircraft. And in the future
        the conflict with the Air Force is stronger than the Ukrainian - the bomber will not be able to conquer the air.
        Ps. I fully admit that this measure is temporary and is connected with the possibility of industry. SU - 34 was transferred by the plant in excess of the plan. With fighters misunderstanding. To produce Su-35, Su-57, Su-30 - continue to produce a variety of varieties.
        1. 0
          23 December 2022 14: 40
          In our development of aviation (and not only aviation), there are simply wild distortions. There is only one principle - what can be pompously demonstrated at parades and air shows is being developed. And this is primarily fighters. Even the choice of priority for super-maneuverability instead of stealth (like the US Air Force) for the fifth generation is from the same series. Hence the complete seams on UAVs, especially small ones, AWACS and much more, inferior in the air show component to fighters.
          But the main imbalance is between carriers and ammunition. Free-falling bombs in ostentatious exercises boom just as spectacularly as corrected ones, so why wrinkle your brain, inventing all sorts of "smart" bombs? In a real war, a combination of an outdated carrier aircraft and modern high-precision munitions works incomparably better than a sophisticated modern aircraft armed with "cast iron". A bunch of modern aircraft - modern high-precision ammunition, of course, is even better, but this is if there are endless resources for all the Wishlist, and we won’t have them for a long time.
          So, if they can’t (and for starters, they want to) root out the ceremonial-ostentatious thinking that has taken root there from the offices of the Kremlin, the Moscow Region, the General Staff, all these new regiments and divisions will turn into regular paper tigers. The only thing left to do is to rejoice at the newly minted generals, and secured orders for the production of "ceremonial-demonstrative" weapons for military-industrial complex enterprises.
  23. +1
    21 December 2022 20: 11

    From open sources.
    Look at these faces - victory is inevitable! soldier
  24. 0
    21 December 2022 20: 26
    Finally, the so-called "military reforms", but simply the systematic destruction of the Armed Forces and the rear, are trying to reverse.
    Divisions, districts, AK in Karelia (there was an army in the Soviet years), some things are rolled back right up to Khrushchev's "reforms" (draft age from 21 to 30).
    The military registration and enlistment office - officers should be there, it turns out, or even there is nothing to ask from anyone and nothing, except from themselves. Repair plants are needed for some reason ...
    It means that it’s pressed, since multi-legged nonsense is thrown aside, but there is no second part of the matter: no one is to blame, and no one is punished.
  25. +1
    21 December 2022 20: 36
    President: the military potential and capabilities of almost all major NATO countries are being used against Russia
    Truly an amazing surprise!
    The start of the special operation was inevitable, and its results were guaranteed.
    Argumentum ad ignorantiam.
  26. +7
    21 December 2022 20: 45
    How can a new reform of the army be entrusted to the leadership, which failed the previous one in 12 years?! The result will be the same, obviously, what a moron you have to be in order not to understand this???
    1. +4
      21 December 2022 21: 49
      Quote: Timur_kz
      The result will be the same, obviously, what a moron you have to be in order not to understand this???

      Who told you that they don't understand? Maybe there are completely different interests?
  27. 0
    23 December 2022 09: 21
    against Russia, the military potential and capabilities of almost all major NATO countries are used

    Did any of our "analysts" and "geostrategists" initially expect something else? Is this despite the fact that one of the goals of the NWO was to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO? Obviously, it was predicted that NATO would yawn lazily while standing on the sidelines?

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