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The command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the use of kamikaze drones "Geran-1" by Russia

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The command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced the use of kamikaze drones "Geran-1" by Russia

Russian troops began to use a new model of kamikaze drones called "Geran-1" for attacks on Ukraine. According to the official representative of the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Yuri Ignat, we are talking about "Iranian drones" Shahed-131.


According to the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia has begun to use a "new" model of drones, called "Geran-1" in Russia, which is smaller than those used by "Geran-2", to strike at the critical infrastructure of Ukraine. Ignat did not provide details.

It is worth noting that this is not the first mention of the Geran-1 kamikaze drone by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the context of strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure; back in mid-October, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense announced the discovery of fragments of this drone on the territory of the Buchansky district of the Kyiv region. The Russian drone was allegedly shot down by Ukraine's "valiant" air defense.

The Geranium-1 (Shahed-131) drone is slightly smaller than the Geranium-2 (Shahed-136), its length is 2,6 meters, its wingspan is 2,2 meters, and its approximate weight is 135 kg, of which approximately 15 kg are to the warhead. The main difference is the installed rotary piston engine (Wankel engine) Shahed-783/788, developed in Iran based on the Chinese MDR-208, which in turn were copied from the British AR731. The range of Shahed-131 is about 900 km.

Shahed-136 has a weight of up to 200 kg, a wingspan of 2,5 m and a warhead with 40-50 kg of explosives. It is equipped with an MD-550 piston engine, which emits a specific sound, for which the drone has already been called a "shahid moped". The declared range is up to 2 thousand kilometers.

In Kyiv, Iran is accused of allegedly supplying drones to Russia, but so far they have not been able to provide evidence of this. Neither Tehran nor Moscow confirms the supply of drones; a licensed assembly of Iranian drones at Russian facilities is possible, although there is no confirmation of this either. The Russian Ministry of Defense simply ignores all Ukrainian and Western accusations, continuing to use drones, and quite successfully.
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  1. Boniface
    Boniface 20 December 2022 19: 57
    +16
    Kyiv accuses Iran of allegedly supplying drones to Russia

    These complainers and beggars - blame the WHOLE WORLD
    Some, because they are given little dough or not given at all!
    Others that they are "wet in a latrine"
    good
  2. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 20 December 2022 19: 57
    +16
    yes, at least whose, the main thing is the high efficiency of the rest of the seeds
    1. Askold65
      Askold65 20 December 2022 22: 52
      +12
      How it heats up: "Glory to Ukraine - Glory to Geraniums"! laughing
      1. skeptic
        skeptic 21 December 2022 12: 27
        0
        Quote: Askold65
        How it heats up: "Glory to Ukraine - Glory to Geraniums"!

        Well then: "Draining Ukraine - Glory to Geraniums" wink
        But in general, did you try to put nozzles on the exhaust of "Geraniums" that deflect the exhaust upwards? The sound wave going up reduces the audibility from the ground.
        At least a little, but it will "unsettle the nerves" of the enemy less.
  3. Sergey3
    Sergey3 20 December 2022 20: 04
    +14
    Yes, let them complain, what do we care!
    Marshak immediately remembered: "Listen, fool, stop eating the master's geranium!" wassat
  4. Andy_nsk
    Andy_nsk 20 December 2022 20: 11
    +5
    I read that some Geranium-1 UAVs have anti-radar seekers, and that in a duel with such Geranium a MiG-29 was destroyed, the homing head of which captured the MiG radar beam. In general, it would be nice to pokotsat the air defense system of the outskirts.
    1. Sergey84
      Sergey84 20 December 2022 20: 46
      +5
      Bike) .. the text of my comment is too short
    2. Sergey84
      Sergey84 20 December 2022 20: 48
      +8
      Rather, debris hit the air intake
      1. Andy_nsk
        Andy_nsk 20 December 2022 20: 56
        +4
        Rather, debris hit the air intake

        I don't see any conflict between these versions. The MiG pilot became interested in hunting for UAVs, the GOS of Geranium captured the beam of the aircraft's locator, the pilot attacked Geranium on a collision course at short range from a cannon, Geranium fell into dust, a fragment hit the air intake. IMHO - everything is logical.
      2. Gnefredov
        Gnefredov 20 December 2022 21: 32
        +11
        That's right, the pot flew. Sherds, the turbine in the trash, and the earth left the combustion chamber without oxygen and extinguished the fiery motor. "Gardeners" neighed like horses, and the Guinness Book of Records was replenished with a unique case of the victory of an aircraft model from a circle of young pioneers over a multi-role fighter.
        1. Andy_nsk
          Andy_nsk 20 December 2022 21: 46
          +4
          The Guinness Book of Records was replenished with a unique case of the victory of an aircraft model from a circle of young pioneers over a multi-role fighter.

          What victory? - a draw!
          1. Aristarkh Pasechnik
            Aristarkh Pasechnik 21 December 2022 03: 55
            +6
            Sorry, kamikaze drone and exterminator! Is it like a draw? The drone did its job, but the Ukrainian MIG did not!
            1. Andy_nsk
              Andy_nsk 21 December 2022 05: 38
              +2
              I was joking. The smiley didn't show up.
  5. iouris
    iouris 20 December 2022 20: 14
    -3
    Command. And what do they command? Airplanes are no more.
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 20 December 2022 20: 25
      +2
      Over the past day, Russian air defense systems (ADS) have destroyed several aviation units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU). This was announced to journalists by the official speaker of the defense department, Lieutenant-General Igor Konashenkov.
      According to Konashenkov, the air defense systems shot down the Su-25 and the Mi-8 helicopter. He clarified that the Su-25 was shot down near the city of Ugledar, and the helicopter was shot down near the village of Severnoye in the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR).
      And that's just for yesterday. So there is no need to throw hats here.
      1. Illanatol
        Illanatol 21 December 2022 09: 24
        +3
        There are planes. But mostly disposable.
        Like geraniums, but bigger. Not drones, but kamikaze.
  6. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 20 December 2022 20: 16
    +3
    In Kyiv, Iran is accused of allegedly supplying drones to Russia, but so far they have not been able to provide evidence of this. Neither in Tehran nor in Moscow
    We make excuses to Bandera-fascist partners:
    - We know that representatives of Kyiv still cannot provide Tehran through bilateral channels with any documentary evidence
    https://t.me/izvestia/115922
  7. azkolt
    azkolt 20 December 2022 20: 24
    +3
    We will hear something from our mouthpiece tomorrow. Planes flew all day today, I don’t even remember when this happened last time.
  8. azkolt
    azkolt 20 December 2022 20: 27
    +11
    It’s kind of funny to hear Iran’s accusations, Turkey can supply them with UAVs, but no way to Iran!))))
    1. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 20 December 2022 23: 54
      +1
      The Turks are helping the "forces of good", while Iran is helping the "forces of evil".
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty 20 December 2022 20: 30
    +3
    It is necessary to combine the use of Geranium 1 and Geranium 2! The first to hit military equipment and ammunition depots, the second to hit fortifications and infrastructure. And, massively apply them, dozens in one blow. And there should be far more than one blow, of course!
  10. kventinasd
    kventinasd 20 December 2022 20: 35
    +8
    Kyiv accuses Iran of supplying drones to Russia

    An interesting thing happens. And why, then, cannot Russia blame all suppliers of weapons to the Kyiv junta, or will we continue to mumble through the permanent representative to the UN and Zakharov?
    1. Svale
      Svale 20 December 2022 21: 16
      +2
      it's very simple, "all suppliers" can announce sanctions to Russia and Iran, but Russia can't.
      1. kot423
        kot423 20 December 2022 21: 42
        +4
        Quote from Swale
        Russia is not.

        "All suppliers" and without sanctions are completely delighted with utility bills and price tags at gas stations ...
        1. Svale
          Svale 21 December 2022 14: 40
          0
          Why are you looking at other people's accounts? Do you feel better about it? Let's take a look at our bills, and look at the price tags at our gas stations. I don’t know about you, but for me neither one nor the other, to put it mildly, has fallen in price ...
          1. kot423
            kot423 23 December 2022 10: 45
            0
            Quote from Swale
            Why are you looking at other people's accounts? Do you feel better about it? Let's get on with it

            You signed up for all of Russia in your previous post, didn't you? Not knowing what is happening outside the edges of your city/region? So then what questions do I have if I answered based on the words of your comment?
    2. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 20 December 2022 22: 50
      -1
      so we will continue to mumble through the permanent representative to the UN and Zakharova

      "Mumbling through Zakharova" is not necessary - they usually dance,
      the pole is just not enough for color.
      Funny lady, brings the effect of unpredictability into
      and without that our crazy world.

      As for me, the UN is a kind of party without goals and a plan,
      focused purely on the process. bla-bla-bla.

      And Nebenza is more and more pleasant to sit there and puff like a steam locomotive,
      than to serve as a second secretary in some Mongolia.

      My opinion is personal.
  11. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 20 December 2022 21: 20
    +1
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine shot down (as they claim) dozens, if not hundreds of Shaheds. But not a single photograph of the downed drone or its wreckage has been provided. An example of disinformation is Ukrayinska Pravda. The editor of this zombie newspaper, Sevgil Musayeva, considers his compatriots to be fools, just as Nemtsov once called his voters "penguins" in Russia.
    1. d1975
      d1975 20 December 2022 21: 53
      +5
      The wreckage was shown in TG channels, only after work. They work well. Dill plaintively yelled that 777 broke his moped and truncated.))))
  12. air wolf
    air wolf 20 December 2022 21: 25
    +3
    Geranium 2 after entering into a dive from 2 km altitude, it is possible to drown the engine 1 km from the target with a program, it will be quieter, and if the propeller is wedged in the shadow of the wing, then there will be silence in general and hello Khokhols laughing
  13. hhurik
    hhurik 20 December 2022 21: 38
    +4
    The new model should be called "Verkhovyna-6", on the tail draw the old man Hottabych in a dressing gown, dissecting on the indicated vehicle.
    Why "Verkhovyna-6"? For fun: a shahid-moped, made in Lviv, I used to cut through it in my childhood.
    1. d1975
      d1975 20 December 2022 21: 55
      +1
      Good device from my childhood. I drove 3 and 5 models, and this is Verkhovyna-sport. Then came the Carpathians, complete crap.
    2. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 20 December 2022 22: 35
      0
      Why "Verkhovyna-6"? For fun: a shahid-moped, made in Lviv, I used to cut through it in my childhood.
      Yeah, after fiddling with it, since then, I learned how to fix the clutch, the engine itself. The idea is cool, only it was done with crooked hands, almost from soft iron (dviglo), it was constantly falling. The work of my father saved me, there was a foundry and a lathe with the necessary machines. Engine and clutch made almost anew. Then my son learned to drive on it!
    3. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 20 December 2022 22: 57
      0
      And I had a Delta. But without three speeds of course.
      And so everyone had the Carpathians ... (and I have Delta)
  14. topol717
    topol717 20 December 2022 21: 55
    +1
    Figase 200 kg and only 2.5 meters. Is there a plane right there? with such dimensions and such weight, it pulls more on the tractor. the engine weighs 16 kg, the glider should weigh 20, although it should weigh less, the fuel should be 50, although most likely less, the load is 50 kg. what else can a mat gain by 50 kg?
  15. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 December 2022 21: 58
    +2
    Well, "Geran-1" and "Geran-2" are good ... but I especially like "Arash-2"!


    Yes, and characteristics ... combat capabilities are higher! Lepota ... abgemacht, in a word! It's time to switch to jet thrust! And in this case, they are perfect ... mmm .... "Geranium-3" (!) ... I mean, "Shahed-191" (Although there is also a piston version ...)! True, this device is not a "kamikaze", but a "drummer" ... but what's the difference if you don't have to choose too much!

  16. Fat
    Fat 20 December 2022 22: 03
    0
    feel
    The Russian Ministry of Defense simply ignores all Ukrainian and Western accusations, continuing to use drones, and quite successfully.

    Who else thinks that a product created in a cooperative garage is unique, well, except for the Ukrainian leadership? Well, except perhaps the "Collective West" with advanced technologies unsurpassed by any other madhouse (even Soviet). wassat
  17. polynet
    polynet 20 December 2022 22: 03
    +2
    Quote: Sergey3
    Yes, let them complain, what do we care!
    Marshak immediately remembered: "Listen, fool, stop eating the master's geranium!" wassat

    Let them write in Sportloto)))))
  18. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 20 December 2022 22: 36
    +1
    These inexpensive drones deliver great results.
  19. senima56
    senima56 20 December 2022 22: 50
    +2
    ".... continuing to use drones, and very successfully." This is the most important thing! good For this, UAVs are created! hi
  20. Boniface
    Boniface 20 December 2022 23: 24
    +3
    British Defense Secretary:
    In exchange for the supply of more than 300 kamikaze drones, Russia now intends to provide Iran with advanced military components, undermining both the Middle East and international security.


    Even if this is true, then of course, this cannot be compared with the supply of advanced military components by Britain to Kyiv. They do not undermine international security, because the Anglo-Saxons do not consider everyone to be a people. In general, not everyone is considered human. angry
  21. Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 21 December 2022 00: 27
    -2
    21 trillion spent over ten years on the military ... so what? Okay, 10 months ... but how many lives are there!?

    Praised scientific companies, ERA ... bluff, but when you go to fight, the bluff does not work, on the contrary, you get hit in the teeth
  22. ratoborets
    ratoborets 21 December 2022 01: 05
    +1
    The main difference is the installed rotary piston engine (Wankel engine) Shahed-783/788, developed in Iran based on the Chinese MDR-208, which in turn were copied from the British AR731.

    While ours have been talking about import substitution for years, Iran has been engaged in real import substitution. It doesn't matter whether they copied something or developed it themselves. Main result!
  23. certero
    certero 21 December 2022 03: 40
    +1
    Quote from Andy_nsk
    I read that some Geran-1 UAVs have anti-radar seekers,

    That is the way things are and have been. The head captures the radar beam and begins to aim at it, redirecting from the main target to the antenna.
    What bauble only says that Iranian engineers have thought out their weapons well
    1. Bodipancher
      Bodipancher 21 December 2022 12: 53
      +1
      If such geraniums fly in a swarm of ordinary geraniums, then it’s absolutely wonderful. You can reset the infrastructure and air defense in parallel with zeroing.
  24. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 21 December 2022 03: 53
    +3
    “Russian troops began to use for attacks on Ukraine new model of kamikaze drones called "Geran-1" » —

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    — Winter varieties

    (F͟i͟t͟o͟t͟e͟r͟a͟p͟i͟͟͟ya (from other Greek “plant” + “treatment”), herbal medicine is a method of treatment and prevention) ...



    ***
  25. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 21 December 2022 04: 21
    +1
    More "mopeds" - good and different!
  26. Illanatol
    Illanatol 21 December 2022 09: 27
    0
    Quote: kventinasd
    And why, then, cannot Russia blame all suppliers of weapons to the Kyiv junta, or will we continue to mumble through the permanent representative to the UN and Zakharov?


    And what do you blame them for? These suppliers do not violate any international agreements or laws.
    So what, that the junta. We are still deep with this junta. relationship, by the way.
    Such a squiggle.
  27. zenion
    zenion 22 December 2022 21: 01
    -1
    Here it is! Poor countries save the country which has the largest army in the world, after the dead army of the USSR.