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An analogue of Wikipedia will be created in Russia

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An analogue of Wikipedia will be created in Russia

According to the Minister of Digital Development, Telecommunications and Mass Media of the Russian Federation Maksut Shadayev, at the beginning of next year Russia will launch its analogue of the popular world Internet encyclopedia Wikipedia.


The Russian "Wikipedia" will be called "Knowledge" and will be based on the materials of the large Russian encyclopedia, Shadayev noted.

Our main task is to have our own portal - the Knowledge portal

- said the head of the Ministry of Digital Transformation, reports TASS.

Preparations for the Russian Knowledge portal appear to be in full swing, given that, according to Shadayev, it already hosts more than XNUMX articles.

Recall that a few months ago it was announced the launch of a domestic portal like Wikipedia under the name "Runiversalis". However, problems quickly arose in the operation of the portal, and although at the moment "Runiversalis" is available to users, the portal does not have much popularity.

The Internet's most popular reference book, Wikipedia, was founded by Americans Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger and launched in January 2001. According to the same Wikipedia, more than 50 million articles are posted on its website in almost 500 languages ​​of the world. At the same time, there are more than 1,8 million articles in Russian. Wikipedia itself at first really was a completely independent source of information, then instead of an encyclopedia it began to turn into a politically engaged platform, where not facts are often published, but conjectures of those who are in the circle of “approved” users and moderators.

The head of the Ministry of Digital Development noted that work will be carried out so that the Knowledge portal in search queries has priority over its well-known foreign counterpart.
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  1. nikon7717
    nikon7717 20 December 2022 15: 37
    +8
    It is high time. And then in Wiki so much was edited biased.
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 20 December 2022 15: 47
      +6
      Fresh legend - but hard to believe! For how many years they have been promising and to no avail, only the money from the country's budget is flowing away for this business.
      1. Andriuha077
        Andriuha077 20 December 2022 16: 20
        +3
        By the way, about Wikipedia offline (without network)
        You can store the entire Wikipedia on your phone. And read it anywhere and anytime.
        9 April 2012
        Wikipedia (Wikipedia) is now available for download as a compressed file of the OpenZIM format, which is specially designed for offline viewing of wiki content, Erik Moeller, deputy director of the organization Erik Moeller, reports in a tech blog of the Wikimedia Foundation.
        In total, 25 language versions of Wikipedia, including Russian, are available for download on the Kiwix website.
        However, OpenZIM files do not always contain illustrations. For example, the English version of Wikipedia contains only text, lists, tables, quotes, and mathematical formulas. Otherwise, according to the developers, the size of a file with pictures, even the size of a fingernail, would have increased tenfold: 100 gigabytes versus 10.
        The Russian-language Wikipedia file is also 10 gigabytes, but includes thumbnail images.
        "Big Russian Encyclopedia":
        Since April 1, 2016, there is an electronic version of the encyclopedia, the release of which is supported by the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation
        Everything is there, everything was given to them for free.
        And the promotion, and the format, and our own have already been somehow digitized.
        What else were they going to do there?
        Cross links? That's why there are free volunteers.
        How to show spending? Tragedy.
        1. Andriuha077
          Andriuha077 21 December 2022 11: 42
          0
          Extension

          wink By opening the Wikipedia site, you can take any content from there and apply it in your projects, fulfilling the requirements of a free license. Because the authors of Wikipedia allowed you to do it, licensed it.

          recourse By opening the Knowledge site, you do not have the right to take anything from there at all, you cannot use the materials of this site in your works. Because the publishing house "The Great Russian Encyclopedia" did not allow you anything, did not give you any licenses.

          wink When you see errors in Wikipedia, you can correct those errors by citing reliable, verifiable, respected, and authoritative literature.

          recourse Seeing errors on the Knowledge site, you cannot correct anything.

          At the same time, it is developing both the official website "Knowledge" (through the Ministry of Digital Development) and the anonymous website "Rapedia" (through the Ministry of Culture), dispersing its forces.

          It works quite differently in neighboring countries. Since 2011, the National Encyclopedia "Kazakhstan" has been available at free licenses, so it's entirely copied Wikipedia in Kazakh. The Armenian Brief Encyclopedia (2011), the Encyclopedia of the History of Ukraine (2012), and the National Encyclopedia of Uzbekistan (2013) were published under the same license. Their articles join the wiki encyclopedia in these languages, directly broadcasting the point of view of the authorities there.
      2. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 20 December 2022 16: 38
        0
        So I would take it and look at the site! Who forbids? You will find many interesting things!
    2. filibuster
      filibuster 20 December 2022 15: 57
      +4
      If it were that easy, it would have been done a long time ago. The question is at whose expense, servers, host, administration, etc., the current Wikipedia collects a decent budget only on donations from all over the world.
    3. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 20 December 2022 17: 18
      +3
      Quote: nikon7717
      It is high time. And then in Wiki so much was edited biased.


      It's half the trouble, the main thing is that the new wiki be popular with the population and young people in particular ... otherwise they will make "Knowledge" for 150-200 thousand articles and say use it, but who will update the information on these articles? how often ? How many articles will be added per year?

      Wiki has an advantage now, 1,8 million articles in Russian, with updating articles - almost online + the ability to switch to articles in other languages) you will need information about some event / figure - in the Russian segment, a small title and a minimum of information, switched to eng. language (with a built-in translator) and information 2-3 times more.

      Or information about China (as an example), let’s say I wanted to know about some type of PLA weaponry, I go to the Russian article on the wiki, information is at a minimum + outdated for 2017-2018, I switched to a Chinese article with a translator and there is much more information + it is newer, with links to primary sources. those. what interests me...

      And how the update of information will be implemented in "Knowledge" is a good question ....
      1. Newven
        Newven 20 December 2022 18: 49
        -4
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        Wiki has an advantage now, 1,8 million articles in Russian
        A third of them are saturated with Russophobia!
  2. Alexga
    Alexga 20 December 2022 15: 50
    +3
    The idea is good and necessary. But there is one point, how to make it objective and unbiased. This phrase is confusing: "The Russian Wikipedia will be called Knowledge and will be based on the materials of the large Russian encyclopedia." There was the Soviet Encyclopedia, there was Efron and Brockhaus, now the Russian one, I note that a sufficient number of concepts have different meanings in these encyclopedias. But Vicki sucks!
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 20 December 2022 16: 01
      +5
      Quote: AlexGa
      There was the Soviet Encyclopedia, there was Efron and Brockhaus, now the Russian one, I note that a sufficient number of concepts have different meanings in these encyclopedias. But Vicki sucks!

      If you don’t read articles about modern politics, politicians, history, geography in it, but use it exclusively to refresh your school knowledge in mathematics or, for example, about the European art of the Renaissance, then you can still read. laughing
      The laws of Newton or thermodynamics in the USA or Ukraine are exactly the same as in Russia. Hope... what
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 20 December 2022 16: 17
        -1
        If you don’t read articles about modern politics, politicians, history, geography in it, but use it exclusively to refresh your school knowledge in mathematics or, for example, about the European art of the Renaissance, then you can still read.

        So yes, but if our children still know what and where to look for, there may already be problems for grandchildren. Mine is already 16, but it is difficult to make him search in a paper book, everything strives to get into Wiki.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 20 December 2022 16: 41
          +1
          Quote: AlexGa
          Mine is already 16, but it is difficult to make him search in a paper book, everything strives to get into Wiki.

          My neighbor's younger son seems to be a good kid, his father brings him up, he slips what books he needs, what movies he needs to watch together.
          I struggled with the problem for a long time - my son STRONGLY, before the scandal, refused to watch black and white films.

          I somehow don't care whether I read books in electronic or paper form - well, so I'm still Soviet. But there were no such troubles with my son, because he grew up in a military family and understood the power of the order from childhood. He is not used to arguing with me or with my father, his grandfather.
          But I just look at the young - it's scary ...

          Quote: AlexGa
          if our children still know what and where to look for, there may already be problems for grandchildren.

          We had a teacher at the institute - he honestly said that we learn all these intricate formulas in order to pass the exam in the session and forget. To our questions: "How so?" replied that his task was not to memorize these formulas for the rest of our lives, but to let us know where to find them, if necessary.
          1. Foul skeptic
            Foul skeptic 20 December 2022 17: 00
            +1
            We had a teacher at the institute - he honestly said that we learn all these intricate formulas in order to pass the exam in the session and forget. To our questions: "How so?" replied that his task was not to memorize these formulas for the rest of our lives, but to let us know where to find them, if necessary.

            A very common case. And very sad for education.
            In the same physics, a formula is just a form of recording something from our real world. If the formula is intricate in the understanding of the student, then he simply does not understand the nature of things that it conveys. Therefore, whether he can find it later or not, by and large, it does not matter, physics has passed him by.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 20 December 2022 17: 07
              +1
              Quote: Nefarious skeptic
              A very common case. And very sad for education.

              "Knowledge of some principles easily compensates for ignorance of some facts" - I did not say. Helvetius.
              And this, I think nothing, that I don’t remember the formula of the Law of universal gravitation by heart. But I know that it exists, I know what it is for, and I know where to find the formula.
              And as for the rules of the Russian language from those that were taught at school, I just can’t formulate a single one from memory. Because literacy is not in the rules, but in the head.
            2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 December 2022 18: 46
              -1
              The textbooks say that tungsten from the spiral in an incandescent lamp evaporates, and if the lamp is filled with an inert gas, it does not evaporate. Is this a correct statement? Or maybe tungsten oxidizes in air, and does not evaporate? Such controversial provisions in physics textbooks are a wagon and a small cart.
              1. shikin
                shikin 20 December 2022 21: 11
                0
                Tungsten burns out in air. Therefore, the lamps were made without air - that is, with a vacuum. But in a vacuum, yes, tungsten evaporates a little, like any other highly heated material ..
                1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                  Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 December 2022 22: 17
                  0
                  That is, in your opinion, the metal passes into the gaseous state from the solid bypassing the phase of the liquid state? All this is insanely interesting, but maybe, nevertheless, the reason is the reaction of tungsten with oxygen and nitrogen, and it’s not worth telling fairy tales about evaporation?
                  1. haron
                    haron 20 December 2022 22: 36
                    0
                    Is it really so hard to find articles on the topic "the method of thermal evaporation of metal in a vacuum." Anya accuse a person of fabulousness. You can also become stupid.
                  2. shikin
                    shikin 20 December 2022 22: 43
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                    Does it surprise you that a solid can evaporate without passing through the liquid phase? This is elementary physics. Or are you surprised that ordinary incandescent lamps contain a negligible amount of gases, i.e. vacuum? Or are you surprised that at high temperatures, some of the metal atoms leave the solid and are deposited on colder parts? Where are the fairy tales? This is all the usual physics that they pass at school.
      2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 December 2022 16: 41
        +2
        Alas and ah! In the current Wikipedia, even historical knowledge is diligently emasculated and it turns into a mouthpiece of medieval prejudices and palmistry. For example, at one time alternative versions of the construction of the Egyptian pyramids were still mentioned there, now this is not there either, only fortune-telling and at least false statements. And Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is mentioned and interpreted in the interpretation of the beginning of the 20th century, with a complete lack of mention of modern criticism. Alas, time in this edition has not only stopped, but in terms of content has rapidly rolled back.
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 20 December 2022 16: 53
          0
          For "alternatives" and other "thematically sharpened" there are resources, even in the wiki environment, like the same "Tradition". It was not enough to cover up Wikipedia with garbage.
          1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
            Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 December 2022 17: 14
            +1
            But what about the opinion that modern GPS, to put it mildly, has not revealed the presence of paradoxes over time and its deceleration? It, of course, such an opinion may be erroneous, but it also needs to be proven. Or is it now forbidden in science to even mention a different opinion?
            And the statement about the possibility of manually dragging 10-ton blocks of Egyptian pyramids by 20-2,5 people may well be garbage, which, according to Wikipedia, is considered possible and correct. For it does not fit with elementary common sense.
            And about the silence of suspicions about the origin of Schliemann's gold and the treasures of Tutankhamen's tomb, there is generally silence. Do you think that if those who doubted the authenticity of the finds died, then all doubts disappeared? No, this is not the case in science.
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 20 December 2022 17: 30
              0
              "Presence of presence" is strong, it's straight from the classics. And what was the GPS supposed to "reveal"?
              Or is it now in science that a different opinion is forbidden even in the mention of

              Exactly for the same reason why the Russian Academy of Sciences does not accept projects of "perpetual motion machines" and other crap. It is not a "different opinion" that is ignored, but nonsense from charlatans or poorly educated individuals.
              And the statement about the possibility of manually dragging 10-ton blocks of Egyptian pyramids by 20-2,5 people may well be garbage, which, according to Wikipedia, is considered possible and correct.

              Garbage is a frank distortion of what is written in Wikipedia.
              1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                Sergey Aleksandrovich 20 December 2022 18: 29
                +2
                Since Wikipedia claims to be scientific and encyclopedic, a scientific campaign must be present there. And keep the methods of the medieval Inquisition and reprisals against those who disagree.
                And try to refute the theory of Joseph Davidovich about the construction of the Egyptian pyramids. Your much-loved official point of view of dragging and dropping blocks by hand sounds much more like quackery.
                As well as to prove the authenticity of the gold of Troy from Schliemann and the treasures of Tutankhamun, you will not be able to, because there is no such evidence.
                And if the slowdown of time during the propagation of GPS signals was confirmed, then we would already know about it, and already in fact, the Theory of Relativity acquires some understatement, to put it mildly.
                1. Foul skeptic
                  Foul skeptic 21 December 2022 11: 09
                  -1
                  And try to refute the theory of Joseph Davidovich about the construction of the Egyptian pyramids.

                  The theory of Davidovich in the form that you are trying to present exists only with Fomenko-Nosovsky and the company, from where you learned about it. It's just that their creations are designed for the gullible segment of the RUSSIAN-SPEAKING audience. And it is enough to know at least English to easily check their distortion about Davidovich.
                  By the way, you are not embarrassed that the images of the movements of statues, blocks, etc. there is, but there is no formwork pouring process? Isn't it embarrassing that the Egyptian pyramids are far from the only ones in the world, not the most complex in terms of architectural solutions and not the most labor-intensive? What did Davidovich say about them? lol
                  And if the slowdown of time during the propagation of GPS signals was confirmed

                  So the fact that the time recorded on the satellite and on the surface of the planet do not coincide was experimentally confirmed back in the days of my youth, when there was no ZHPS either. And now this is not a secret for anyone and is taken into account (compensated) in geopositioning systems.
                  I understand that for a person who has difficulty understanding the operation of an ordinary incandescent lamp, the relativistic effect is all the more dark forest.
                  1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                    Sergey Aleksandrovich 21 December 2022 15: 42
                    0
                    Maybe Joseph Davidovich himself does not exist?

                    In my opinion, you have reached a complete extreme and lack of reason.
                    1. Foul skeptic
                      Foul skeptic 21 December 2022 16: 46
                      0
                      Maybe Joseph Davidovich himself does not exist?

                      No. Exist. you missed my words
                      the way you are trying to present

                      You don't have to worry about my sanity.
                2. Andriuha077
                  Andriuha077 21 December 2022 14: 18
                  0
                  “Poor fellow!” they answered him, “don't you know that there are three topics for which the French Academy of Sciences no longer accepts applications: squaring the circle, the Channel Tunnel and balloon control?”
                  Another German, Hermann Gasvindt, proposed the construction of rocket-propelled, heavier-than-air flying machines. On his fifth manuscript, the German Minister of War, after consulting with experts, wrote with the sympathy characteristic of his nature and position: "When will this unfortunate bird finally die?"
                  But there was absolutely no reason to pillory the professor of the Smithsonian Institution, the American Langley, who proposed flying machines driven by the recently invented internal combustion engines. He was ridiculed, destroyed, and expelled from the Smithsonian.
                  Professor Simon Newcomb gave a mathematical justification for the impossibility of the flight of bodies heavier than air. A few months before the death of the heartbroken Langley, a little English boy once returned from school in tears. He showed his classmate a photograph of the layout that Langley had sent to his father. Father said that people will eventually fly.
                  The comrades began to mock, and the teacher said: "My friend, is your father a complete idiot?" The supposed idiot's name was Herbert George Wells.

  3. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 20 December 2022 15: 58
    +2
    chainsaw Friendship - always ready to saw laughing Probably, it is like Wikipedia - of course it will be free - in terms of editing, filling, etc.? And for anyone - so cool that everyone will leave Vicki ..
  4. Arkady007
    Arkady007 20 December 2022 16: 00
    +2
    An analogue has already been tried to create more than once. Yes, somehow it didn't work. Too many controllers.
    1. Dmitry Rigov
      Dmitry Rigov 20 December 2022 16: 14
      +5
      Yes, it just doesn’t make sense, such projects are dying quickly because they cannot form their own community, as an example, domestic analogues of instagram and tiktok. In general, it looks like another development of budget money, like a closed search engine "Sputnik" and that analogue of YouTube.
    2. Alf
      Alf 20 December 2022 19: 25
      0
      Quote: Arkady007
      Too many controllers.

      And there are few responsible, or rather, not at all ...
  5. solar
    solar 20 December 2022 16: 00
    0
    announced the launch of a national portal similar to Wikipedia under the name "Runiversalis"

    the project did not go because of the unsuccessful name. It should have been called "Rukipedia" :))
  6. Real Pilot
    Real Pilot 20 December 2022 16: 03
    -1
    The system will become popular if access to it is made mandatory within the framework of the school and university curriculum, if not only articles from the encyclopedia are placed there, but also electronic textbooks, manuals and interactive materials.
    Give homework and provide access from tablets from classrooms.
    Well, allow citing materials as a source. For in scientific and graduate works, quotes from Wikipedia are in bad taste (although it is not forbidden, it is better not to write this in the bibliography).

    Similar sites also keep statistics, the teacher sees the time of work, the number of tasks and points. And there is no need to check a pile of notebooks in typical examples ... As a system for independent work at home - excellent. Well, in the classroom and the audience there is also something to do, more creative and in-depth moments.

    And then the habit will be developed among students and schoolchildren to enter the portal, search for and exchange information. With us, without administrative methods, implementation will be slow and ineffective, and one can learn how China sets an example of standards in the field of obtaining knowledge.

    In general, if you make an online encyclopedia a federal portal, then it may work out. The main thing is to do it qualitatively and conveniently. Well, protected.
  7. Raccoon Raccoon
    Raccoon Raccoon 20 December 2022 16: 05
    +7
    "Runiversalis", damn it. Sounds like a "screech". Creators are bad. However, after the burglar advertised the largest bank in the country, I am no longer surprised by anything.
  8. Foul skeptic
    Foul skeptic 20 December 2022 16: 06
    +4
    then, instead of an encyclopedia, it began to turn into a politically engaged platform

    Compared to the aforementioned "Runiversalis", Wikipedia is simply a standard of impartiality.
    Therefore what
    although at the moment Runiversalis is available to users, the portal does not have much popularity.

    just not surprising.
    But the money has been spent.
  9. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 20 December 2022 16: 07
    0
    Encyclones are remembered.

    Our legislators forget about economies of scale. For a billion viewers, the resource works in one way, and for less than a hundred million in a completely different way.
  10. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 20 December 2022 16: 21
    -3
    An analogue of Wikipedia will be created in Russia

    ***
    - "Wikipedia" analoгram! ...
    ***
  11. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 20 December 2022 16: 43
    0
    It is high time. To be honest, I'm tired of Pediviki with the Ukrainian moderation of materials.
  12. Codett
    Codett 20 December 2022 17: 20
    0
    Well, under such a noise they will cut money, and then they will say that it didn’t work out and is not popular, there have already been many talks about rutube too, they say YouTube will not be needed, but in fact it’s not possible to watch the video due to endless advertising, so here I think that performance can pump up or some kind of advertising is stuck, according to the principle that you need to make loot
  13. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 20 December 2022 18: 37
    +1
    then, instead of an encyclopedia, it began to turn into a politically engaged platform

    Ours will eventually be the same biased, only in the other direction.
  14. evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 December 2022 18: 52
    -1
    Actually, I would not be against the sovereign Internet. If you don’t litter it with any crap from non-blockers, but use it for education, crafts, repairing equipment and other useful things in life.
  15. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 20 December 2022 19: 11
    0
    if they write Medina there, then all these anti-Soviet stories are worthless
  16. faiver
    faiver 20 December 2022 19: 16
    0
    God forbid that another zilch would not turn out ...
  17. flyer
    flyer 21 December 2022 16: 04
    0
    This is the problem ... We are all trying to create analogues, but we need to make originals.