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American expert: In the West they talk about the victory of Kyiv, realizing that the real picture does not correspond to this

American expert: In the West they talk about the victory of Kyiv, realizing that the real picture does not correspond to this

As a member of the board of directors of the Institute of American Ideas George O'Neill notes in his article for the American edition of The American Conservative, the West is well aware that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are suffering heavy losses and can lose in a conflict with Russia.

According to the expert, despite the fact that the leading Western media and the US presidential administration endlessly repeat that Ukraine is defeating Russia, the realities at the front do not confirm this optimism of the West. And Western leaders are well aware of this, O'Neill said.

The expert also called the West's policy towards Ukraine cynical and disastrous. However, according to O'Neill, the Ukrainians are paying the price for this policy, "suffering huge losses."

The losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are so great that the West is no longer able to hide them, the expert notes, referring to the words of the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen, who announced a hundred thousand dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, the US and the EU also declare a shortage of weapons for deliveries to Kyiv. However, pro-Kyiv victorious rhetoric continues in the West, writes O'Neill Jr., pointing out that such rhetoric is more like a bizarre attempt to convince themselves that victory over Russia is about to be won in Ukraine.

He also blamed the deaths of thousands of Ukrainians on Washington, which should not have interfered in relations between Moscow and Kyiv.

George O'Neill concluded by urging Western leaders to begin negotiations to end the loss of life.
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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 19 December 2022 14: 10
    So the Ukrainians themselves believe that they are winning, and a little more, and they are all landowners in their estates to the Volga itself. True, some dreamed already in the last century.
    1. Quote Lavrov
      Quote Lavrov 19 December 2022 14: 17
      Colleague, excuse me, I want to clarify - what events of the last century are you talking about? I hope about the period of the Directory, UNR, and so on?
    2. Sith
      Sith 19 December 2022 14: 38
      Well, in The Master and Margarita, Berlioz's uncle from Kyiv ... dreamed of an apartment in Moscow)
  2. Quote Lavrov
    Quote Lavrov 19 December 2022 14: 13
    I didn’t understand what is the point of this article on VO?
    Do we need an article from I don’t understand who in the enemy publication, what would we tell us that our army number 1-2 in the world can defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine?
    We already know this!
    Or all for the sake of the last paragraph?
    "... In closing, George O'Neill urged Western leaders to begin negotiations."

    Is this exactly what our victory will look like? And for how long? Until Ukraine is pumped up with weapons even more and restored to wage a new war with us?
    1. zenion
      zenion 19 December 2022 14: 26
      It's just from that math problem. If they caught up with us, we would give them more.
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    1. Quote Lavrov
      Quote Lavrov 19 December 2022 14: 18
      Colleague, can I get your opinion on the VO telegram channel? How are the articles, comments? Comparable in quality to the site?
      1. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 19 December 2022 14: 30
        Thank you for responding to my comment. Erroneously inserted into the topic of this article. My opinion? There are notes from the first persons from the front line, and I think this is good. The video too. .I try to analyze, and not shout "hooray" with or without reason .. If you do not take into account headless comments, then it's quite normal
        1. Quote Lavrov
          Quote Lavrov 19 December 2022 14: 32
          Thank you. I fully agree with your opinion. Comments, of course, are often just beyond words.
  4. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 19 December 2022 14: 24
    Let them talk. But still, to say that they did not achieve any goals is not correct.
    They ruined and subjugated Europe. This goal has been achieved.
    Of course, they will not be able to defeat Russia, but by destroying Ukraine, they will add problems to us.
    At least they will solve this program.
    But we will solve this problem, but they will never be able to turn Ukraine into anti-Russia.
    Strategically, they will lose in the long run. If you haven't already played, then Russia will get stronger.
    And even the fact that at the beginning we made a lot of mistakes, this will not help them in any way.
    We correct our mistakes, but they don't.
    Their main mistake was that they underestimated Russia and decided that we could finally be defeated, that revenge would work out.
    Will not work.
  5. YOUR
    YOUR 19 December 2022 14: 26
    At the same time, the US and the EU also declare a shortage of weapons for deliveries to Kyiv.

    I don't believe that they don't have enough weapons. Another thing is that there is not enough money allocated in the US by the Congress, in the EU by the parliament and the leaderships of individual states.
    Take the same USA there, the arms industry is the basis of the state. There are more small arms in the hands of the population than the population itself, hundreds of millions of cartridges are riveted because they are consumables, i.e. there are no problems with the shooter at all. The production of shells is everywhere, but what is there to produce a metal hollow cone filled with explosives, the most difficult spring in the fuse. Mortar mines are generally cast iron, casting. The impudent ones promised hundreds of thousands of shells. These are the most stubborn, even Poles. The rest is starting to get bored with this "black hole" called Ukraine.
    Giving forecasts is not a thankful task, we'll wait and see.
    1. 28st region
      28st region 19 December 2022 14: 43
      Quote: YOUR
      Giving forecasts is not a thankful task, we'll wait and see.

      Forecasts are given from the other side. In their forecasts, they are already marching on Red Square.
      And we know without forecasts Victory will be ours. The enemy will be defeated.
  6. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 19 December 2022 14: 30
    the rhetoric is more like a strange attempt to convince themselves that Ukraine is about to win a victory over Russia.

    Such rhetoric was also in Afghanistan, but the victory did not come. The rhetoric is the same in Ukraine, but everyone knows that there will be a "bummer". I really don’t want the states and NATO to receive this “bummer” twice in a row, but it’s time to get used to it.
  7. Osipov9391
    Osipov9391 19 December 2022 14: 30
    It is still too early to draw such conclusions.
    And the hypothetical loss of the Zaporozhye region may even lead to a return to the positions on February 23.
    After that, negotiations will be imposed on Russia on the terms of the West.
    It is clear that by fighting in the Donbass, Ukraine is simply playing for time before the start of massive deliveries of heavy weapons from Western countries.
    And those same weapons can drastically change the outcome of a military campaign far from in our favor.
    All kinds of maritime drones, robot boats, converted kamikaze drones, long-range cruise missiles, air defense systems.
    So far, it is given in piece quantities.
    1. Former soldier
      Former soldier 19 December 2022 14: 41
      It is clear that by fighting in the Donbass, Ukraine is simply playing for time before the start of massive deliveries of heavy weapons from Western countries.

      Agree. Either give them no time to prepare and get ahead of them with the offensive, or they themselves perform much more powerful training to grind all future Western weapons.
      1. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 19 December 2022 15: 04
        Modern technologies (especially in the West or even not only there) have gone far ahead.
        And now some robot boat or underwater drone can cause very great damage if it blows up a port with fuel or a naval base with ships.
        They are not heard by acoustics, they are not seen by sonars. There is no protection from them - binoculars and small arms only.
        And remember the drone attack on Engels and Ryazan.
        Saved by the fact that there were a piece number.
        What if 10 , 20 , 30 or 50 were launched ?
        What damage could they cause to military and civilian objects?
    2. YanniKounnar
      YanniKounnar 19 December 2022 15: 20
      ".. l'Ukraine ne fait que gagner du temps avant le début des livraisons massives d'armes lourdes en provenance des pays occidentaux...."
      La question est : à ce moment là restera t il assez d'Ukrainiens capables d'utiliser de telles armes ?
    3. rtv
      rtv 19 December 2022 15: 33
      I agree that it is too early to draw conclusions. But for the rest - robot boats, etc., I no longer agree. Any more or less modern weapon requires lengthy training, which no one in the Armed Forces of Ukraine has. And it is much more difficult to transfer calculations along with equipment than just equipment (which comes with a creak anyway). If they can, in principle, increase the scale of deliveries without problems, then how to solve the problem of calculations?
      1. Osipov9391
        Osipov9391 19 December 2022 17: 50
        There is no need for any overseas specialists there - they have their own.
        Anyone who knows a lot about drones can even turn a civilian UAV into a very serious one.
    APASUS 19 December 2022 16: 04
    In this conflict, the media is leading the process to extract funds from the US Congress. At the same time, the filmmakers went too far, attaching importance to the drug addict (a bad copy of Che) and shoving his performance around the world.
    At some point, the dog's tail began to twirl the owner! Now it is not possible to reveal the truth, it will be a bomb. Bidon and Ursula will fly, and a bunch of court dogs
  9. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 19 December 2022 16: 58
    The United States expected that VSU would be burned into atomic ashes after the first attacks on Belgorod and the Kursk villages. Even then, all of NATO would have wiped off and the bravado would have sunk into the maelstrom. No, after all, GDP was seduced by the threat of some kind of reaction from the United States and NATO when using nuclear weapons.
    We kill our people in the cities and in the front line, falling in love like in the Second World War under the strict control of the United States. A shame.
  10. Paradox163
    Paradox163 19 December 2022 17: 19
    The more unexpected for them will be the result. Surprise))))))