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Military correspondents: Russian artillery has become more efficient to work near Kremennaya

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Military correspondents: Russian artillery has become more efficient to work near Kremennaya

The situation at the front in the Kremennaya area (Luhansk People's Republic) remains unchanged. The 144th motorized rifle division of the 20th combined arms army is holding the defense here. The enemy has not yet taken large-scale offensive actions.


As for the losses, as of the morning of December 19, they, as stated, are absent. Apparently, the competent work of the Russian military in organizing positions and shelters is having an effect.

In many ways, the actions of the enemy are restrained by the skillful work of Russian artillery. Our gunners have learned how to effectively counter Ukrainian counter-battery fire.

The Telegram channel “Older than Edda” also draws attention to this. According to the authors of the channel, now near Kremennaya there is an increase in the level of "production discipline" of artillery units. Russian gunners fully realized the need to change positions as quickly as possible after shelling. This does not allow the Ukrainian formations to achieve success in the counter-battery fight.

It looks like this: artillery arrives at a position, quickly works out on targets and immediately leaves the position. By the time the Ukrainian artillerymen decide to retaliate, their shells are already falling in an open field as the Russian artillerymen manage to change position. This tactic leads to a reduction in losses both in military equipment and in personnel. Why this understanding comes only now is a separate question. But anyway, better late than never.
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  1. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 19 December 2022 09: 06
    -2
    I wonder - what is the relationship between the fact that several dozen generals were expelled from the RF Armed Forces on pendels and vzashey and the fact that military operations by the RF Armed Forces have become much more effective?
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 19 December 2022 09: 08
      +12
      Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
      several dozen generals were expelled from the RF Armed Forces on pendels and vzashey

      Who exactly?
    2. Glory1974
      Glory1974 19 December 2022 09: 11
      +6
      several dozen generals were expelled from the RF Armed Forces on pendels and vzashey

      Where is the information from? It seems that military correspondents write that, on the contrary, they do not expel anyone.
    3. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 19 December 2022 09: 12
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      Quote: Leader_Barmaleev
      I wonder - what is the relationship between the fact that several dozen generals were expelled from the RF Armed Forces on pendels and vzashey and the fact that military operations by the RF Armed Forces have become much more effective?


      The unsuitable were expelled and things more or less went on.

      . Why this understanding comes only now is a separate question. But anyway, better late than never.

      The same question can be asked not only about the Army, but also about many other things in our country. And the Army, as you know, is a reflection of society.

      .Our gunners have learned how to effectively resist the Ukrainian counter-battery fight.

      We had such exercises that we really have to learn only during the NWO. And not, as Suvorov said, that it’s hard to learn, easy to fight. It turned out, on the contrary, easy to learn, hard to fight.
      1. bk316
        bk316 19 December 2022 13: 08
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        The unsuitable were expelled and things more or less went on.

        And what about the generals? Preparation and change of position is the first thing taught FUTURE sergeants in art school. Even at the KMB, even before they were allowed to the gun. Just gouging blooms and no generals will help here. Here the Ukrainians helped to see. Who remained alive remembered what they taught.
    4. Kronos
      Kronos 19 December 2022 10: 30
      -1
      And who was kicked out and where did they become much more effective?
  2. Konnick
    Konnick 19 December 2022 09: 10
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    Russian gunners fully realized the need to change positions as quickly as possible after shelling.

    In the tenth month ... they realized ... how long does it take for our troops to learn modern warfare?

    The Telegram channel “Older than Edda” also draws attention to this. According to the authors of the channel, now near Kremennaya there is an increase in the level of "production discipline" of artillery units.


    Although there is no faith in this author at all. More like discrediting the armed forces.
    1. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 19 December 2022 10: 16
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      Quote: Konnick

      In the tenth month ... they realized ... how long does it take for our troops to learn modern warfare?

      Quote: Konnick
      although there is no faith in this author at all. More like discrediting the armed forces.

      Everyone knows that after completing the task, the battery must leave the place of its execution. But not everyone does. Confirmation, numerous videos that show that they do not leave at all. Evidence, mountains of spent cartridges. So, the author of the article is right. Only rocket artillery is leaving, since there is practically nothing to do.
  3. Uprun
    Uprun 19 December 2022 09: 19
    +5
    Well, yes, according to the meaning of the author, they used to sit and wait for arrivals ......, they only learned about the counter-battery war for the 10th month of NWO ...., wrote to write .... Shack, and the people got excited ... ..
    1. Asad
      Asad 19 December 2022 09: 26
      0
      In order to promote the next TG channel, they can carry outright garbage.
  4. Glory1974
    Glory1974 19 December 2022 09: 19
    +7
    Our artillery has systemic problems. Yes, we have learned to escape from the blow. But also the air defense troops are leaving, including near Donetsk. Therefore, we cannot do anything with the shelling of Donetsk.
    Thanks to the volunteers, the troops were saturated with short-range drones, but there are no medium and long range drones. Therefore, we can still shoot and hit at 10-15 km, but not at long distances. We can shoot at 30 km, but there is no drone that will correct the fire. aviation can be saved, but it cannot fly - air defense is not suppressed. You can hang reconnaissance and strike drones, but we don’t have them. This is where positional deadlock comes in.
    1. O. Bender
      O. Bender 19 December 2022 09: 38
      0
      I completely agree, there is no reconnaissance in the operational depth, so Iskander is idle. Neither the Khimars nor the s, 300 are intact.
  5. VLAD-96
    VLAD-96 19 December 2022 09: 29
    -2
    Holds the line here

    Defense again. Defending is not possible to conquer the enemy! This means that there is no goal to win, what is the goal of our leadership is generally incomprehensible! Donetsk is being beaten and beaten, and the Avdiivka area for 10 months failed to destroy the enemy and occupy the territory, push the front to a safe distance. There is no goal.
  6. alexey_444
    alexey_444 19 December 2022 09: 30
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    The notorious human factor, Donetsk and Lugansk have been fighting like this for a long time, and ours are on the loose, the bad thing is that the Ukrainians are also running away, so it’s not clear where our shells fall.
  7. digger
    digger 19 December 2022 09: 45
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    Well, in the initial period of the Second World War, the Red Army, together with the command and Stalin himself, also learned ... from their mistakes .... only then the price of mistakes was millions ... but they learned quickly. It’s the same today ... the Russian army with the command is also learning .. in the process ... you can’t get away from it ... on the contrary, strength and professionalism are not about not making mistakes from the beginning and acting perfectly - this never happens . Poke into any army in the world, there will be even more problems .. but in order to quickly and quickly understand your mistakes and instantly reorganize and act effectively - this is the strength of any army.
  8. Hey
    Hey 19 December 2022 10: 34
    +2
    I read the article several times, but did not understand where the counter-battery fight was. One of its elements, I agree. But while they are leaving their positions, then who is at this time conducting counter-battery countermeasures. So this is a collective event. One battery has worked out, it is leaving, the other is already deployed and ready to fire, the third is almost ready to fire. And all this should be synchronous, with good communication both among themselves and with intelligence facilities.
  9. zxmobil
    zxmobil 19 December 2022 12: 57
    +1
    I didn't get the point of the article either. you want to say that this understanding came at the 10th month of the special operation. Gentlemen, are you out of your mind or there is nothing more to write about. Why carry this nonsense. From the first reports of special operations, this was talked about all the time.