Turkey has declared its readiness to unilaterally establish the boundaries of its exclusive economic zone in the Aegean Sea

Turkey is ready to unilaterally establish the boundaries of its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) in the Aegean Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean if Greece does not withdraw its armed forces from a number of islands in the Aegean Sea. This is written by the Greek information portal pronews.gr.

The confrontation between Turkey and Greece is growing, Ankara warned Athens of its intention to unilaterally determine the boundaries of the EEZ in the Aegean Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean, fortunately, such a precedent already exists. As previously reported, Egypt independently demarcated the EEZ with Libya to the west of the demarcation line with Greece, without asking anyone and violating the agreement on the definition of maritime boundaries between the two states. Therefore, Ankara will not hesitate, and if Athens does not comply with Turkish demands for the withdrawal of armed forces from a number of islands in the Aegean Sea, they themselves will "draw" a new line for their exclusive economic zone.

According to the portal, Turkish representative Ibrahim Kalin issued a corresponding warning at a meeting with the Greek delegation in Brussels, which neither Turkey nor Greece officially announced. It should be noted that it was held with the mediation of Germany, but did not end with anything, the parties remained unconvinced.

(...) for the first time, Turkey indirectly but clearly warned Greece that she would proceed with the unilateral determination of the boundaries of the EEZs in the Aegean and the Eastern Mediterranean if her demand "for the restoration of legality concerning Lausanne (1923) and Paris (1947) is not accepted" treaties, and the Greek armed forces will not be withdrawn from the islands of the eastern Aegean and the Dodecanese

- the portal writes.

The stumbling block was the islands of Midilli (Lesbos) and Sisam (Samos), which have the status of demilitarized, but to which Greece transferred its armored vehicles, thereby violating a number of international treaties. There are many disagreements between Turkey and Greece over the status of the islands, the boundaries of territorial waters and airspace in the Aegean Sea, the countries have repeatedly been on the verge of starting a military conflict.

Comments

[Lech from Android.]

The case when I approve of Turkey's actions... the Greeks have been asking for trouble for a long time.

[Ilya-spb]

The mess between the Turks and the Greeks is beneficial for Russia.
It will divert some of the resources to support Bandera.
And the attention of NATO.

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: Ilya-spb

The mess between the Turks and the Greeks is beneficial for Russia.
It will divert some of the resources to support Bandera.
And the attention of NATO.

Russia is more profitable turmoil of China and Taiwan.

[Doccor18]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

Russia is more profitable turmoil of China and Taiwan.

Yeah, the only problem is that it is very unprofitable for China and Taiwan ...

[Doccor18]

Quote: Ilya-spb

The mess between the Turks and the Greeks is beneficial for Russia.

Profitable. But it is unlikely to happen ... Turkey will not aggravate too much, so it is possible to lose the last contract for the modernization / purchase of aviation, and Greece is now too weak to seriously compete with Turkey ...

[alexoff]

Rather, the Greeks will merge. Since the 50s, the United States has taken great care of the Turks and often fulfills their wishes, this is one of the key countries for them on the continent. Even under Clinton, Blinken demanded the extradition of Ocalan to the Turks, and the Greeks immediately blocked the borders. And not only the Greeks, Primakov also kicked off then

[Andy_nsk]

The case when I approve of Turkey's actions ... the Greeks have long been asking for trouble

Aha! The Greeks desired to transfer the S-300 complexes and short-range air defense systems (made in the Russian Federation) to the outskirts. Surely in the contract there is a ban on the transfer to third countries! $ooky! Well, let them pass it on - then they will finally untie the hands of the Turks: their planes will fly over the heads of the Greeks!

[Pavlos Melas]

On VO there was a publication where Greece was written with the condition: "money in the evening, chairs in the morning" and nothing else.

[Andy_nsk]

On VO there was a publication where Greece was written with the condition: "money in the evening, chairs in the morning" and nothing else.

Yes, this is not about money. I think Turkey will require forward delivery of an overseas air defense system (Patriot or similar). What's the use of money if your enemy can bomb you with impunity?

[Pavlos Melas]

Yes, this is not about money. I think Turkey will require forward delivery of an overseas air defense system (Patriot or similar). What's the use of money if your enemy can bomb you with impunity?

You probably meant Greece, and there was a metaphor about money

[Machito]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The case when I approve of Turkey's actions... the Greeks have been asking for trouble for a long time.

I support Turkey. Turkey needs to declare war on Greece and capture all the islands in the Aegean.

[Konnick]

I support Turkey. Turkey needs to declare war on Greece and capture all the islands in the Aegean.

It will definitely be cheaper to rest and there will be less problems with visas

[laws70]

The Greeks have long been asking for trouble.

The Greek leadership behaves in the same way as the leadership of Armenia, and then vzhuh - and half a Karabakh tyutyu and little is left of the army. There will be a similar story and Russia will also be to blame.

[parusnik]

Turkey has declared its readiness to unilaterally establish the boundaries of its exclusive economic zone in the Aegean Sea

Will there be a commotion? Or will the parties separate?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: parusnik

Will there be a commotion? Or will the parties separate?

The only way to somehow extinguish the quarrel for a while (and I already spoke about this here) is to yell at the Greeks, they will promise some candy to the Turks.

But I think it's still only temporary.

[parusnik]

On the other hand, Erdogan is not predictable ..

[laws70]

Erdogan, not predictable ..

The Turks actually presented the Greeks with an ultimatum, after which Erdogan will not be able to turn back, even if he wants to. If the Greeks did not understand this, then this is exclusively their problem.

[laws70]

Will there be a commotion? Or will the parties separate?

There will be no mess: the Turks will destroy all their Greek armored vehicles and air defense systems on the disputed islands in one night and send their troops there. And that's all: there were Greek islands, they became Turkish. The Greeks send three planes there, of which only one and not all of them return, they demand the convening of the UN Security Council, the OSCE and the NATO Council; the Turks politely offer all island Greeks to leave the islands within 24 hours; express concern in Russia.

[rotmistr60]

for the first time, Turkey indirectly but clearly warned Greece that it would proceed with the unilateral delimitation of the EEZs in the Aegean Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean

And he will do this despite the indignation of the United States, which will certainly follow. At the same time, for some reason, you don’t even feel sympathy for the Greeks (primarily the government), who clearly showed their attitude towards Russia.

[Mihail0221]

who clearly showed their attitude towards Russia.

As soon as the S 300 is handed over to Ukraine, and the "new" air defense will not yet be delivered to the Greeks. Then ... How ... The Turks must immediately begin to determine the boundaries of the EEZ in the Aegean Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean.

[Pavlos Melas]

The Turks must immediately begin to determine the boundaries of the EEZ in the Aegean Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean

In the Eastern Mediterranean they are trying, but Egypt is against .

[Zoldat_A]

if Athens does not comply with Turkish demands for the withdrawal of armed forces from a number of islands in the Aegean Sea, they themselves will "draw" a new line of their exclusive economic zone

If they don't, then war. And militarily, I would even hesitate to compare Greece with Turkey.

If they do, then this is surrender without war.

That is, for Greece, any option is a loss?

The way out is to run to Big Brother to complain? Yes, but it’s also not an option - he’s not up to Greece now. He disassembles Greater Europe for parts and spoils us.

[parusnik]

Yes, but it’s also not an option - he’s not up to Greece now.

Yeah. They won’t kick the fox out of the hare hut .. Yes, and the Greeks are 100% wrong ..

[Pavlos Melas]

And the Greeks are 100% wrong.

.
Of course, I understand your indignation at the behavior of Greece in relation to the NWO, but what are the Greeks wrong about? Lesvos and Samos were militarized by agreement with Turkey when the Turks militarized the straits. The Turks deliberately forget this. The rest of the islands on which the troops are stationed in general do not appear in agreements with the Turks; we received them after WWII; before that, they were under the control of Italy.

[parusnik]

Of course, I understand your indignation at Greece's behavior towards NWO

Yes, somehow I’m not particularly indignant .. Greece, a member of NATO, the elder said, Greece is fulfilling, it’s painfully dependent on partners. Some of you are right, some are wrong .. somehow purple, like Greece before NWO. In addition, Greece and Turkey, NATO partners, sit down for a cup of "coffee", negotiate. Since, as "senior" partners, they will not particularly support anyone, it is not beneficial for them to tear apart in such an alliance. Well, bleed, friend, friend .. So then, Greece and Turkey will still be forced to sit down at the negotiating table.

[laws70]

That is, for Greece, any option is a loss?

Well, after all, they were probably thinking something before deploying armored vehicles on the islands, in violation of international treaties. And the idea that this is a slap in the face to the Sultan, for which it is customary in the East to pay with blood, has not visited these smart heads?

The way out is to run to Big Brother to complain?

Big Brother may also be surprised that the Greeks still have some armored vehicles, Russian-made, which should have been transferred to Ukraine long ago, and in return to buy a new and expensive one from the United States ... on credit at 30% per annum.

[Pavlos Melas]

in violation of international treaties

There was no violation, the Turks want there to be no army on the islands in order to grab them easier.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

The Overton windows are opening... Previously, only whales, such as Russia, the USA, China, were allowed to create anything unilaterally. Turkey is also not a sprat, but not a whale at all - it will create a precedent that will be documented and the substance will rush through the pipes - imagine what fun will begin if all sorts of ciliates begin to divide the world ONE-WAY.

[Luminman]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The case when I approve of Turkey's actions

And I!

[Mihail0221]

Turkey is ready to unilaterally establish the boundaries of its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) in the Aegean Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean if Greece does not withdraw its armed forces from a number of islands in the Aegean Sea.

Act quickly. how many tongues can be scratched.

[Uprun]

Cabal among the members of Nata, what could be better!

[Revolver]

It seems that the Greeks have incentives not to transfer equipment to / at 404. Because the equipment promised to replace it, especially the Patriots, will be delivered and deployed, it is still unknown when, and the Turks will need to be shot almost tomorrow.

[EugeneG]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

There was no violation

Pavel, yes people understand the situation. That Greece is a buffer. For this purpose, the masters of Europe created it. The contract is pieces of paper, what the owner says, the buffer will do. 100 years ago, the Greeks went crazy, so the owner quickly showed them the place.

[Pavlos Melas]

100 years ago, the Greeks went crazy, so the owner quickly showed them the place.

100 years ago we had our own Donbas which we could not defend. If you mean that the Western countries showed the place, then do not forget to count the help of the Turks from the Bolsheviks, weapons and money.

[Seal]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

Russia is more profitable turmoil of China and Taiwan.

You won't spoil the porridge with oil. The more such squabbles, the better. For us.

mu no mesh

[Seal]

Quote: Pavlos Melas

Lesvos and Samos were militarized by agreement with Turkey

Could you provide a link to this agreement?

[Pavlos Melas]

Could you provide a link to this agreement?

Sorry in Russian
I didn’t find it, but there is a translation in English and French. https://www.mfa.gr/zitimata-ellinotourkikon-sheseon/eidikotera-keimena/tourkikoi-ishirismoi-apostratikopoiisis-nison-aigaiou.html

[Seal]

Reading (Google translation)

The demilitarization of the Greek islands of Lemnos and Samothrace, which, together with the demilitarization of the Dardanelles, the Sea of ​​Marmara and the Bosporus, as well as the Turkish islands of Imbros (Gökçeada), Tenedos (Bozcaada) and Lagusses (Tavkan), was originally envisaged by the Lausanne Straits Convention of 1923, but was canceled by the convention in 1923

First, there seems to be a mistake. The Lausanne Straits Convention of 24 July 1923 was replaced by the Montreux Convention in 1936.
Secondly, the Montreux Convention does not address the issues of demilitarization of any territories at all.
Demilitarization issues are set out in the Lausanne Peace Treaty.
I show. Sorry for the clumsy google translation.

ARTICLE 12.
Decision taken on 13 February 1914 by the London Conference, in accordance with Articles 5 of the Treaty of London of 17-30 May 1913 and 15 of the Treaty of Athens of 1-14 November 1913, the decision of which was brought to the attention of the Greek Government on 13 February 1914 is confirmed sovereignty of Greece over the islands of the Eastern Mediterranean, with the exception of the islands of Imbros, Tenedos and the Rabbit Islands, in particular the islands of Lemnos, Samothrace, Mytilini, Chios, Samos and Nicaria, subject to the provisions of this Treaty in respect of the islands under the sovereignty of Italy, which form the subject Article 15. Except as otherwise provided in this Treaty, the islands less than three miles from the Asian coast shall remain under Turkish sovereignty.
ARTICLE 13.
In order to ensure the maintenance of peace, the Greek Government undertakes to comply with the following restrictions on the islands of Mytilini, Chios, Samos and Nikaria:
(I) No naval bases or fortifications will be established on said islands.
(2) Greek military aircraft will be prohibited from flying over the territory of the Anatolian coast. In turn, the Turkish government will ban its military aircraft from flying over these islands.
(3) The Greek armed forces in the said islands will be limited to the ordinary contingent called up for military service, which can be trained on the spot, as well as to the gendarmerie and police forces in proportion to the gendarmerie and police forces existing throughout Greece.
ARTICLE 14.
The islands of Imbros and Tenedos, remaining under Turkish sovereignty, will have a special administrative organization composed of local elements and providing all guarantees for the indigenous non-Muslim population in terms of local administration and the protection of people and property. The maintenance of order in the city will be ensured by a police force recruited from among the local population by the local administration provided above and subordinate to its orders.
Agreements that have been or may be concluded between Greece and Turkey regarding the exchange of Greek and Turkish populations will not apply to the inhabitants of the islands of Imbros and Tenedos.
ARTICLE 15.
Turkey renounces in favor of Italy all rights and titles to the following islands: Stampalia (Astrapalia), Rhodes (Rhodes), Kalki (Kharki), Scarpanto, Kasos (Kasso), Piskopis (Tylos), Mysyros (Nisyros), Kalymnos (Kalymnos) , Leros, Patmos, Lipsos (Lipso), Symi (Simi) and Kos (Kos), which are currently occupied by Italy, and their dependent islets, as well as over the island of Castellorizzo.

Something like that.

[ZVOnar]

Quote from: laws70

Will there be a commotion? Or will the parties separate?

There will be no mess: the Turks will destroy all their Greek armored vehicles and air defense systems on the disputed islands in one night and send their troops there. And that's all: there were Greek islands, they became Turkish. The Greeks send three planes there, of which only one and not all of them return, they demand the convening of the UN Security Council, the OSCE and the NATO Council; the Turks politely offer all island Greeks to leave the islands within 24 hours; express concern in Russia.

... and at this time, Estonian intelligence will report that Russia has launched a special military operation in Ukraine

[EugeneG]

[quote = Pavlos Melas] [quote] do not forget to count the help of the Turks from the Bolsheviks, weapons and money. [/ quote]
Pavel, the Entente is the same NATO. Now he plays Ukrainians, and then the Bolsheviks. Do you really think that without permission? Well...
Then the Turks themselves entered Cyprus.
I sympathize with those who believed in the tales of the Athenian propaganda department and in the promises of the Anglo-French. Who died ingloriously in Turkey. Survived those who draped from Smyrna with sparkling heels.
But they can be understood - they sensed that Ionia was not Greece.
And Ionia is not Donbass. You and someone else, to put it mildly, were deceived. Because it is pleasant for the Greeks to deceive themselves with ancient myths.