The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation commented on the statements of the military commissar of the Moscow region Dmitrov about the term of service on conscription

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The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation commented on the statements of the military commissar of the Moscow region Dmitrov about the term of service on conscription

Comments continue to be received from various sources regarding the resonant statement of the military commissar of the cities of Dubna, Dmitrov and Taldom near Moscow regarding the alleged increase in the term of conscription from 2023.

Recall that Lieutenant Colonel Mikhail Fotin himself called this "decision" logical, pointing out that a response is needed to the entry of "northern neighbors" into NATO. The video on Dmitrov TV was deleted some time after publication. Then Mikhail Fotin himself said that "he said a lot, but they edited it the way they edited it."



At the moment, the Russian Ministry of Defense puts an end to the issue.

In the defense department of the country, commenting on the video materials that appeared on the network with statements by the military commissar near Moscow that “such a decision was sent to the military registration and enlistment offices” (about an alleged increase in the term of service), they report that they (the statements of the lieutenant colonel) do not correspond to reality.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports that at the moment there are no changes in the country's legislation regarding the increase in the period of conscription service. Moreover, it was noted that at present no changes in the legislation in this regard are proposed by the Ministry of Defense itself.

The action of the 38th article of the Federal Law is emphasized, which states that the term of military service on conscription in Russia is 12 months.
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    1. +14
      December 17 2022
      In general, this is logical, in our conditions the army should be large and well-trained, which can be done in a year.
      1. +3
        December 17 2022
        The poor military commissar has already changed his shoes three times with versions.
        1. 0
          December 17 2022
          He should have been fired yesterday! Why spread in the media what is not
          1. -1
            December 17 2022
            Quote: RED_ICE
            He should have been fired yesterday! Why spread in the media what is not

            So they didn't get fired. And they weren't punished. He, the poor fellow, faked all over the country. AND?
            In the defense department of the country, ... they report that they (the statements of the lieutenant colonel) are not true.

            And nothing!
            1. +1
              December 17 2022
              Quote: IvanIvanov
              In general, this is logical, in our conditions the army should be large and well-trained, which can be done in a year.

              Now more and more robots are important, not a large army.
              Most likely, they simply checked the reaction of the population to this "fake". Just in case.
              Therefore, the one who said was not fired - he acted on orders.
              I don't think it will really increase.
              At the front, instead of hundreds of fighters with a couple of tanks, one company of two dozen people with a thousand cheap drones is better, of which 980 lie in the ammunition depot (and train with the rest), but the entire warehouse can be quickly put into action.
              Of course, this is true only in conditions of good supply, when spent ammunition is promptly restored.
              The infantry elite, no doubt, is also needed, but it is the elite. Where each fighter at the cost of training and equipment will not be much cheaper than tank maintenance.
              Well, the "commandant's detachments" cannot (yet) be replaced by robots. Someone must occupy the liberated territory, control order there.
              And the front is better left to the robots.
              1. +4
                December 18 2022
                Quote: Shurik70
                Quote: IvanIvanov
                In general, this is logical, in our conditions the army should be large and well-trained, which can be done in a year.

                Now more and more robots are important, not a large army.
                Most likely, they simply checked the reaction of the population to this "fake". Just in case.
                Therefore, the one who said was not fired - he acted on orders.
                I don't think it will really increase.
                At the front, instead of hundreds of fighters with a couple of tanks, one company of two dozen people with a thousand cheap drones is better, of which 980 lie in the ammunition depot (and train with the rest), but the entire warehouse can be quickly put into action.
                Of course, this is true only in conditions of good supply, when spent ammunition is promptly restored.
                The infantry elite, no doubt, is also needed, but it is the elite. Where each fighter at the cost of training and equipment will not be much cheaper than tank maintenance.
                Well, the "commandant's detachments" cannot (yet) be replaced by robots. Someone must occupy the liberated territory, control order there.
                And the front is better left to the robots.

                They also talked about retirement age. ii? I think, since they started talking about a two-year service - so be it!
      2. +9
        December 17 2022
        Yes, two years is normal, if only "to learn military science in a real way." , and not walking on outfits. Now armament is becoming more and more difficult, in a year, even with intensive training, it is impossible to master.
        1. 0
          December 17 2022
          Quote: tatarin1972
          Now armament is becoming more and more difficult, in a year, even with intensive training, it is impossible to master.
          What exactly of what the soldiers work with cannot be mastered in a year?
          1. +5
            December 17 2022
            Quote: bk0010
            What exactly of what the soldiers work with cannot be mastered in a year?

            For example, the training of a nurse, this is the level of a nurse, a military specialty - without any distractions to tactics, for example, the actions of a motorized rifle squad in defense - took a year and a half in the USSR, now, it turns out, 2,5. Shooting somewhere, and not just in the direction of the target - you can teach in a year if you teach only this and 10 hours a day without days off - because it takes stupid time, for example, to set up a hand and develop reflexes.
            So in a year, even a jacket will not really come out
            1. +3
              December 17 2022
              Quote from Bingo
              Shooting somewhere, and not just in the direction of the target - you can teach in a year if you teach only this and 10 hours a day without days off - because it takes stupid time, for example, to set up a hand and develop reflexes.
              This is with a consumption of 6 rounds per person for the period of service?
              1. +2
                December 17 2022
                Quote: bk0010
                This is with a consumption of 6 rounds per person for the period of service?

                You reminded me of my military service. In two years of service, I fired 3 shots from a pistol. One hit nine. One for milk. Third .... I argued that she also hit a nine, because the only hole had an "ovality". They did not agree with me. I fired my immediate supervisor's pistol because they didn't give me mine because I came without equipment. And with my pistol there was another funny story. I received it only after six months of service, because they were simply out of stock. It was brand new, fresh from the factory. I carefully wiped it and handed it back to the armory. I went on business trips with him. And at the end of the service, a personal weapons check was suddenly carried out. I was at peace with mine. The new one. Unshot. But in the end I was reprimanded, because the barrel was factory grease and a strip of oiled paper along the entire length of the barrel.
                But that's not all. About a year and a half later, I came across a shooting record. It turned out that he shot almost every month, consistently at the top three. I asked the commander why not fours. He replied that if I really hit the top nine for the first time, there would be fours. I was smart enough not to ask what happened to the cartridges that I allegedly shot during my two years of service. That was a long time ago. Over 40 years ago. Another country.
              2. 0
                December 18 2022
                I don’t know about you, where he served - UOS-1, targets number 9, 10, 8. Range, grenade launcher, target number 9, 150-200 meters, machine gun crew, target number 10a, 250-300 meters, retreating (advancing ) infantry group, target number 8, moving at an angle of 45 ° along the directrix, range 800-850 meters. The number of rounds per exercise is 12, the rate of fire is single. And this is only one exercise, and there were more than a dozen of them.
          2. +6
            December 17 2022
            Can you, in a year, train an intelligent driver, gunner, commander of a combat vehicle? Not to mention artillery, in order to develop normal skills, a year is not enough. There are a large number of universities where you need to study for the entire service. The same infantryman also needs more than a year to train. Moreover, now a simple infantryman should be able to shoot from everything that is in the unit and be able to control the equipment of the unit.
            1. +2
              December 17 2022
              Can. Now they teach for 2-3 months.
              Moreover, now a simple infantryman should be able to shoot from everything that is in the unit and be able to control the equipment of the unit.

              Let's start shooting! Provide a training ground, sensible instructors and cartridges.
              You don’t really give cartridges ... so you can teach and not teach for 5 years
              1. +1
                December 17 2022
                Did you have firearms training? Was it not carried out?
                In two or three months, you can teach the initial algorithms in your specialty, but you cannot acquire the depth of knowledge and skills during this time. Previously, they studied in school for 6 months, and after that they finished their studies in the army.
              2. +1
                December 18 2022
                Quote: Cympak
                Can. Now they teach for 2-3 months.

                do not carry heresy! It is enough to look at the recruits who come, 90 percent of the goners and 100 percent of "ok Google"! A dead end branch of evolution with shortness of breath and disease! And only a year later they have something similar to a man!
            2. +2
              December 17 2022
              Quote: tatarin1972
              You can, in a year, train an intelligent driver, gunner
              I - no, but in principle it is quite possible.
              Quote: tatarin1972
              Not to mention artillery, in order to develop normal skills, a year is not enough.
              Are you talking about carrying shells and setting firing parameters?
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      3. +5
        December 17 2022
        in our conditions, the army must be large and well-trained, which can be done in a year.

        As for the "large" one, I would probably agree, but large due to combat line units, and not just anyone who receives military allowances for pay. We keep a million army constantly, but how did it become necessary to shed blood - it turned out to be only 200 thousand. The rest of the "librarians" and "cooks" in uniform?
        As for two years, I would support the idea if I were sure that now a soldier has been stubbornly and fruitfully taught military affairs for a year now. Someone believes in this, how can I not talk to those who have served an urgent one-year service - so the snow was laid out in neat cubes and by other methods pleasing the general's eyes. Would you like to do the same for two years?
        1. 0
          December 17 2022
          Quote from Andy_nsk
          in our conditions, the army must be large and well-trained, which can be done in a year.

          As for the "large" one, I would probably agree, but large due to combat line units, and not just anyone who receives military allowances for pay. We keep a million army constantly, but how did it become necessary to shed blood - it turned out to be only 200 thousand. The rest of the "librarians" and "cooks" in uniform?
          As for two years, I would support the idea if I were sure that now a soldier has been stubbornly and fruitfully taught military affairs for a year now. Someone believes in this, how can I not talk to those who have served an urgent one-year service - so the snow was laid out in neat cubes and by other methods pleasing the general's eyes. Would you like to do the same for two years?


          The rest quickly quit.
        2. +5
          December 17 2022
          Everything is included in the army. For example, air defense. These troops must protect the territory of the entire country. Only a small number is located in the NWO zone. Or military schools and academies. Military research institutes. Transport aviation. Strategic Missile Forces. Yes, and in other areas should be someone. For example, the protection of military or dangerous facilities. The same nuclear power plants or depots of weapons and ammunition cannot be left without protection. Potentially dangerous areas must also be covered. Suddenly NATO will hit Kaliningrad. And many more where troops are needed. Even during the Second World War, not the entire army was at the front.
          1. 0
            December 17 2022
            Thank you, I perfectly represent the structure of the army, and yet 200 thousand. out of a million - disproportionately few, at least half should fight - IMHO.
      4. +2
        December 17 2022
        then so. in 2 years you will better learn how to cube snow and paint borders. and wash the dishes in the kitchen attire. so we will win
      5. +5
        December 17 2022
        For a year, you can prepare an excellent fighter in 1-2 military specialties. To do this, you need to learn theories and develop practice, and not engage in stepping and beat off cants.
        Wisdom says that it is not the time spent in the pastry that saturates, but the number of whites eaten.
      6. 0
        December 18 2022
        With an Intelligent Officer, and in 3-6 months you can get over ***.
        But where can you get them?
      7. -2
        December 19 2022
        everything depends on what and how to teach .. in principle, the training of mechanical drivers takes 6 months .. for the same period you can train an infantryman, the main thing is to teach in a full-fledged training center with a good training ground and material part according to an approved program with instructors .. The problem of training in parts rests on the quality of the company-level officers and the quality of the materiel base ... Therefore, it turns out that conditional paratroopers are better trained than ordinary motorized rifles and vice versa .. the quality floats .. but a standard is needed
    2. +5
      December 17 2022
      In general, it is logical that a too talkative military commissar can show his talents somewhere further in Chukotka, for example. surely they will appreciate his broad outlook and willingness to communicate with the press.
    3. +6
      December 17 2022
      Well, yes, the lieutenant colonel just came up with an idea about increasing the service life on the way to work, and then he also posted it on TV. (irony) How quickly upstairs they disowned. laughing
      1. -9
        December 17 2022
        Naturally deny, the Kremlin is still praying for their partners.
      2. +2
        December 17 2022
        So it's only for the moment! *The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports that at the moment there are no changes in the country's legislation regarding the increase in the period of conscription service. Moreover, it was noted that at present no changes in the legislation in this regard are proposed by the Ministry of Defense itself.*. And closer to spring, this is not the present moment, this is the distant future. And there may be new realities .... Well, just like with a penny age)))) And in the summer, too, no one planned to raise housing and communal services from December XNUMX)))
        1. +3
          December 17 2022
          I remember they called for one and a half at 94, but Chechnya happened and I didn’t wait for the demobilization and shook it for 2 years from bell to bell .... though then they didn’t know that it was possible with convicts
      3. +2
        December 17 2022
        How quickly at the top they disowned. laughing

        They didn’t disown, but as usual they wag their tail. They have a universal answer for everything
        there are no changes to date
        the key phrase by now! And in 5 minutes the moment will be different, the same "song" is being poured about the second wave of mobilization. All this is wildly annoying. Say it directly and clearly, without snot, competently argued. Such a strategy only leads to greater distrust and rejection hi
      4. -1
        December 17 2022
        Quote from Pharmacist
        How quickly at the top they disowned.

        Quote from Pharmacist
        How quickly at the top they disowned.

        And then, what they disowned put into action! (Well, of course, with popular approval!) laughing
      5. -2
        December 19 2022
        this is called information for internal use .. and the military commissar will now suffer
    4. +9
      December 17 2022
      The action of the 38th article of the Federal Law is emphasized, which states that the term of military service on conscription in Russia is 12 months.

      Also to me, this is the speed of light, Planck's constant and the gravitational constant do not change. And the presidential term, the retirement age and the term of military service are easy.
    5. +6
      December 17 2022
      "Reconnaissance in force" of public opinion
    6. +3
      December 17 2022
      The military commissar is not authorized to make such statements, especially officially.
    7. +4
      December 17 2022
      There is no smoke without fire ! Trial balloon .... Something is not clear all this.
      1. 0
        December 17 2022
        Possibly Overton windows. It turned out to be a very effective way. At first it is perceived as nonsense, but ends up as it should be!
    8. -4
      December 17 2022
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      In general, this is logical, in our conditions the army should be large and well-trained, which can be done in a year.


      A large army should take a lot from the economy. If it takes a little - it means not trained enough.
      There have always been and will be certain types of troops where mastering a specialty in 2 years is impossible. But to spread the slogan "A year is nothing, you give 2 years of military service - this is also not right" for the entire call.

      In general, we are arguing here, but those whom we have chosen decide.
    9. -4
      December 17 2022
      The military commissar will now be sent to a "deserved" pension based on the results of an inspection in his household .. he talks a lot ...
      And the term of the "term" will be increased in any way .. don't go to the fortune teller ....
      1. -4
        December 17 2022
        But the size of the army will probably have to be increased in any case. Through mobilization, military service, contract, PMC. For such a territory as Russia, as events on the outskirts showed, the existing army was not enough. And we are not worried about the Kazakhs and the Japanese. Japan is a territorially small country. But in terms of numbers, almost like Russia. If you give a little slack, they can rush to us outside the territory. In 1905, they did not hesitate. And so before that there was a joint development.
        1. +2
          December 17 2022
          Quote: North Caucasus
          In 1905, they did not hesitate. And so before that there was a joint development.

          in 1904, and so they whined with their claims, but they were not taken seriously
        2. +2
          December 17 2022
          Still, the population of Japan is 20 million less.
        3. 0
          December 18 2022
          There were not enough drones, secure digital communications, automated control systems, reconnaissance and guidance systems in artillery, shelters for aircraft, K-52 helicopters, guided bombs and military satellites in orbit. That's what, and much more, turned out to be not enough, and not so much the size of the group.
          1. 0
            December 18 2022
            There was also little materiel. However, the mobilization was carried out not to replace the mobilized drones and helicopters, but to saturate the personnel. Due to the lack of personnel on the front line. The line was full of holes. And during the offensive, there was no one to control the liberated territories. And this is just one front!
    10. +1
      December 17 2022
      You need to drink less with just anyone, then nothing will be mounted. To be fired, at the very least.
    11. -2
      December 17 2022
      Another smart guy in a cap. I am not smart enough to understand that even if this is so, then it is his lieutenant colonel's business to remain silent. Felt like a boss. So he became smart.
      1. +1
        December 17 2022
        You should all be silent. The whole country is silent.
        1. +1
          December 18 2022
          This DB has shoulder straps and holds a position. And in this position, he SHOULD know what to say and what not to say. Not according to his uniform.
    12. -2
      December 17 2022
      These sycophants will always give out military secrets to show that he also took part in this matter and approved. He even agrees to take off his marshal's epaulettes and become the main fighter in the high rank of corporal. Note: If it is not occupied by another tall fighter 1 m. 90 cm. on bare feet.
    13. -2
      December 17 2022
      Lived up. You can no longer express your opinion. Immediately arrival on the cap. They made a kindergarten out of the army. Two years is fine.
    14. +2
      December 17 2022
      slowly stuffing study public opinion. Let down, prepare the ground for change. ... Technologies don't change.
    15. -3
      December 17 2022
      3 years will be just right. Provided that there will be real military training, and not painting snowdrifts, of course.
      1. 0
        December 18 2022
        Nuuuuu. A lot can be done in three years. And combat training is boring, it interferes with painting.
    16. +1
      December 17 2022
      Quote: Shoulder straps
      3 years will be just right. Provided that there will be real military training, and not painting snowdrifts, of course.


      New term.
      I know autumn in 2 days. All curbs that would be like a parade I know. I also know all cotton of the same color. Paint the grass - heard. Here to paint snowdrifts - now I heard.
      Thank you!
      And on the topic ...
      If there are no cartridges for shooting, if there is no equipment for practicing the skills of privates and sergeants, then there is always an obstacle course, there are standards for digging in, there is sports training. Not elite fighters will turn out, so strong men. For 2 years on state-owned nutrition with the correct daily routine and night, men can be made out of guys.
      If without hazing, and without unloading wagons and building private houses.
    17. +1
      December 17 2022
      The President said "small and mobile", said he is learning to defend his homeland for a year! Said? Spoke, cut and done!! Now let's loosen up!
      1. -2
        December 19 2022
        and? it would not be 6 rounds, but 12, if you exaggerate ... the training program itself is lame
    18. +2
      December 17 2022
      For training and understanding what an army is, 6 months is enough. The rest is a stupid waste of time. Young guys, especially after universities and technical schools, should work and earn and pay taxes to the country, and not build dachas for generals.
      And the fact that weapons are becoming more complex, well, we see this from the NWO, 300 were called up, shooters and scouts, because a very complex weapon, and army oaks cannot figure it out (this is sarcasm).
    19. -1
      December 17 2022
      They also said about the retirement age that they would not raise it, but it turned out differently.
      In general, wait and see, time will tell. There are more reasons against increasing the service life than for increasing it.
      1. -2
        December 17 2022
        An increase in service life means an increase in the army automatically, it’s impossible, sir, we are peaceful, and if we increase the army, then we revive militarism, thereby creating a threat to our peaceful "partners", and go prove the opposite.
    20. -1
      December 17 2022
      I burned down the military office :))
      The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reports that at the moment there are no changes in the country's legislation regarding the increase in the term of conscription.

      Not right now, but tomorrow it might be. How long do you know how. :))
    21. -1
      December 17 2022
      Dap left the country already liable for military service why they don’t tell
    22. +1
      December 18 2022
      Yes, enter for 25 years, serfdom at the same time.
      Here, they call the soil for the reaction of the public. Like, some kind of military commissar, they misunderstood. ....
    23. 0
      December 18 2022
      Quote: Oleg Yurievich Krivoshein
      An increase in service life means an increase in the army automatically, it’s impossible, sir, we are peaceful, and if we increase the army, then we revive militarism, thereby creating a threat to our peaceful "partners", and go prove the opposite.

      That is, you are only concerned about the reaction of partners? And the fact that in the 21st century the country, instead of producing its own Mercedes, iPhones and other creations, is changing shoes into a tarpaulin, is this normal?
      1. +1
        December 18 2022
        And why didn’t the tarpaulin with footcloths please you? Now the medical units are full due to the main disease - corns on the feet, but modern - berets and socks.
    24. 0
      December 18 2022
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      In general, this is logical, in our conditions the army should be large and well-trained, which can be done in a year.

      Certainly there is logic in this. But there are also a bunch of buts. For example, 1 year is enough to train an infantry soldier. But, if we are talking about the operator of complex equipment, then clearly 1 year is not enough, since you still need experience working on it. That is, you must first train the soldier, and then he must work on this technique for some period of time. And here it just turns out to be a plug that 1 year is enough for someone, but not for someone. In theory, you can make 1 year urgent (training), and for example, the next half year or a year, make it extra urgent (working), with the salary of a contract soldier and all the other rebates. And then, if a person likes it, he remains in the service, and if not, then he is transferred to the reserve.
    25. 0
      December 18 2022
      Now, if the Ministry of Defense added that the lieutenant colonel near Moscow was dismissed from the army with the rank of major, then those who like to cast a "shadow on the wattle fence" would think ...
    26. 0
      December 18 2022
      It is impossible, simply impossible to prepare a specialist in a year.
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    28. 0
      December 19 2022
      If in fact, then in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation there are only effective managers. One Serdyukov is worth something. What do they think? Loot in their own pockets.
      The "strange" Military Operation clearly showed that we do not have an Army, let alone a command. OOO "VS RF" They stole what they could and sold what they could.
      I myself served in the Army for two years. In technically complex troops, this is not enough. Yes, I became a Specialist. But, I still have to "recoup" the time and expenses spent on me. It is after 1.5 years that I improve as a specialist.
      Senior officers must be with combat experience. Yes, and "younger" must be able to not only pull the leg on the parade ground.
      It is necessary to urgently reform the ARMY.

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