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The Armed Forces of Ukraine created mobile groups of "drone hunters" to fight Russian kamikaze drones

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The Armed Forces of Ukraine created mobile groups of "drone hunters" to fight Russian kamikaze drones

The anti-aircraft systems in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not capable of effectively fighting Russian drones, especially kamikaze drones. Despite the bravura statements that the "valiant" Ukrainian air defense shoots down almost all UAVs flying in its direction, in fact the situation is very deplorable, you can’t say otherwise. Against this background, the so-called mobile groups of "drone hunters" appeared in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


In the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the territorial defense, they began to create mobile groups on pickup trucks, whose task is to hunt for Russian Geran-2 kamikaze drones, which feel free in the Ukrainian sky. The group consists of two or three fighters and a pickup truck with a machine gun mounted on an open platform. The design is handicraft, made on its own, and what machine guns are installed on it.

According to the Ukrainian press, the main means of combating Russian drones are 12,7 mm DShKM machine guns supplied to Ukraine from Romania. An "anti-aircraft sight" is attached to the machine gun, it is installed in the back of a pickup truck and the installation is ready. It remains to detect the drone and shoot it down.

It has a powerful caliber and high rate of fire, and mounted on a car base, it also has high mobility.

- said the representative of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

However, not everyone has heavy machine guns, so Soviet Maxim or PKT machine guns are installed on pickup trucks. In general, who will find what. The only thing you don’t need to look for is pickup trucks, Estonia supplies the Armed Forces of Ukraine with them.
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  1. Orange Bigg
    Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 11: 15
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    . According to the Ukrainian press, the main means of combating Russian drones are 12,7 mm DShKM machine guns supplied to Ukraine from Romania.


    Cool air defense was installed. Not like the S-500.
    1. krops777
      krops777 16 December 2022 11: 20
      +1
      Cool air defense was installed. Not like the S-500.


      Well, they also cover a territory larger than the S-500 laughing, why do they need Patriots they have a high-speed chubmobile. laughing
  2. adma
    adma 16 December 2022 11: 19
    +8
    Something I doubt the effectiveness of the DShK on a small target. I think a quadruple Maxim would be much more suitable. In general, I was taught at one time to hit aerial targets with concentrated fire as part of a unit. And what kind of concentrated fire can we talk about in the presence of one, even a large-caliber, machine gun?
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 16 December 2022 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: adma
      In general, I was taught at one time to hit air targets with concentrated fire as part of a unit

      There were reports that now they began to pay more attention to such "training"! In any case, I watched a "vidos" where a certain unit from the Russian group in Ukraine trained to shoot down drones!
    2. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 16 December 2022 12: 18
      +1
      I have other doubts, the body of the pickup truck is too narrow for circular shooting, you can fall out if you get carried away with tracking the target.
    3. Hagen
      Hagen 16 December 2022 12: 21
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      Quote: adma
      Something I doubt the effectiveness of the DShK on a small target.

      When repelling an air attack on Pearl Harbor, anti-aircraft gunners "contracted" under a hundred of their own, including civilians .... winked
    4. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 18 December 2022 19: 19
      +1
      Quote: adma
      Something I doubt the effectiveness of the DShK on a small target. I think a quadruple Maxim would be much more suitable.
      there are quad DShK
      The number of bullets fired is four times greater - the chances of hitting the target are the same ...
      1. adma
        adma 18 December 2022 20: 25
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        I spoke specifically about the Ukrainian installation on a pickup truck. And in this case, the quad installation of the DShK has, in my opinion, two big drawbacks. This is precisely a passenger car, which is hardly suitable for salvo firing from four DShKs and a small amount of boxes with bp.
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 18 December 2022 22: 05
          +2
          Quote: adma
          . And in this case, the quad installation of the DShK has, in my opinion, two big drawbacks. This is precisely a passenger car, which is hardly suitable for salvo firing from four DShKs.
          1) Quadruple DShK has its own wheels for transportation on the road.
          The air defense installation in most cases stands still and waits goal - I can’t imagine how a “pick-up hunter” is chasing a flying “Geranium”.
          The quadruple DShK is installed in the threatened direction - and the object is guarded.

          Quote: adma
          small volume of boxes with bp.
          2) The machine-gun (cannon) installation will have a few seconds to hit the target, they will reload later when the target is shot down or flies away - the ammo is enough for one salvo - either you hit or not.

          I can’t explain the logic of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - and I won’t ...
          hi
  3. svp67
    svp67 16 December 2022 11: 22
    +5
    It remains to detect the drone and shoot it down.
    Therefore, they began to fly at night, and even with silencers ... What would be more interesting for everyone ...)))
  4. voice of reason
    voice of reason 16 December 2022 11: 22
    -3
    equip them with tambourines and butterfly nets, there will be more sense.
  5. 28st region
    28st region 16 December 2022 11: 24
    +1
    The group consists of two or three fighters and a pickup truck with a machine gun mounted on an open platform. The design is handicraft, made on its own, and what machine guns are installed on it.

    According to the Ukrainian press, the main means of combating Russian drones are 12,7 mm DShKM machine guns.


    This is a powerful anti-drone cover. They start banging on the windows.
  6. Bingo
    Bingo 16 December 2022 11: 25
    +2
    laughing
    When the Geraniums flew, everyone just neighed in unison, - well, they say, steal, did they sell the ZU-23 to the whole of Africa? Do they themselves have no shells or cannons left?
    In the ZapGV there were so many of these ZUShki, Shilok and other joys that it was enough to cover each garbage dump in three layers, no Geranium would have crawled through - but they sold everything to ISIS for shahidmobiles)
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  7. APASUS
    APASUS 16 December 2022 11: 28
    0
    Where do they go, on the warpath, these hunters? If you know the exact time of arrival or find it on the way, then perhaps there is a chance, how are they looking for them?
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 December 2022 11: 29
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    mobile groups of "drone hunters" ... It remains to find the drone and shoot it down.
    But with the latter, apparently, there are problems. Have you tried quadruple Maxims? The density of fire is high, windows on the upper floors of buildings can be taken out without problems.
  9. japan-k
    japan-k 16 December 2022 11: 30
    +2
    The effectiveness of this "type-air defense" is likely to be extremely low, or even 0. Rather, it will depend on luck and chance. But "gifts" in the form of bullets falling from the sky (125-135 grams)
    and this is serious, if this falls from several hundred meters, such a "gift" can break your head
  10. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 16 December 2022 11: 37
    +2
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine created mobile groups of "drone hunters" to fight Russian kamikaze drones

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  11. Fangaro
    Fangaro 16 December 2022 11: 43
    -1
    Airships with nets will be released soon.
    1. Bingo
      Bingo 16 December 2022 11: 51
      +1
      Derighopli must be inflated with gas. But there is no gas. None. No helium, no hydrogen, no methane... Not even swamp gas)
      1. Sadok
        Sadok 16 December 2022 14: 00
        +2
        You can, like Montgolfier, warm it at the stake.
  12. Hey
    Hey 16 December 2022 13: 59
    0
    As I understood from the article, there will be a hunt for any drones in the visibility zone.
    My suggestion is the following. Heavier drones should be accompanied by a kilogram Lancet to suppress such air defense. Only one BUT, the price of the exchange.
  13. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 16 December 2022 15: 03
    -1
    And who allowed the Romanians to do DShK? We need to stop production. Or warn about the arrival of messengers.
  14. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 16 December 2022 16: 52
    +2
    If an experienced shooter, yes, if he is still warned, then the system is effective. Especially if several such installations lead to the lead point.
  15. Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 17 December 2022 13: 56
    +1
    Rock this pickup like a boat in a storm. Machine gun on a high turret. All bullets in milk will go away. ZU-23-2 is not an example more effective, as they wrote here.
  16. zampolit
    zampolit 17 December 2022 15: 12
    0
    Yes, the media is already full of articles about downed missiles. Terbatovtsy from DShK carts, from a PC from a barrel - straight, in batches ... True, for some reason there are photos of accelerating blocks.
  17. air wolf
    air wolf 18 December 2022 16: 34
    0
    And how many of these carts will be released, 10 or 100, and this will not save Banderstat laughing