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The European Parliament has recognized the "Holodomor" in Ukraine as genocide, in fact recognizing that as a result of the "genocide" the population may increase...

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The European Parliament has recognized the "Holodomor" in Ukraine as genocide, in fact recognizing that as a result of the "genocide" the population may increase...

The European Parliament decided to recognize the famine in Ukraine in the early 30s as artificially organized through the fault of the USSR government with the aim of genocide of the Ukrainian people.


507 deputies voted in favor of this controversial decision, 12 parliamentarians voted against.

The deputies of the European Parliament expressed "solidarity with the people of Ukraine and condemned the actions of the leadership of the Soviet Union."

The Permanent Representation of the Russian Federation to the European Union called this odious decision of the European Parliament a deliberate distortion historical facts.

To say that the famine was organized, and even on a national basis, is not just stupidity, but also an insult to the memory of the dead

- the statement of the diplomatic mission says.

In 1932-1933, on the territory of modern Ukraine, as well as in the Volga region and in Kazakhstan, there really was a mass famine, caused both by miscalculations of the republican authorities during collectivization, and by the fact that Western countries refused to accept gold from the USSR in international settlements, but demanded payment for the machines necessary for the young republic with grain, which led to a shortage of food in a number of territories.

In addition, this "genocide" was the only one in world practice, as a result of which the population of the "oppressed" people not only did not decrease, but also increased significantly.



So, if according to the results of the hungry year of 1933, according to statistics, the population decline in the Ukrainian SSR amounted to about 1,4 million people, then already in the next year, 1934, there was a slight increase in the population, by 1937 reaching a value of 785 thousand people. Moreover, the decline was also associated with the banal resettlement, and not exclusively with the lack of food.

The demographic losses of the Ukrainian SSR from the famine of the 30s are incomparable in scale with the decline in population during the time of independence. If at the time of Ukraine's secession from the USSR, about 52 million people lived there, then already in 2021 the population of Nezalezhnaya was, according to various estimates, from 25 to 32 million people, taking into account the lost territories.
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  1. Orange Bigg
    Orange Bigg 16 December 2022 10: 28
    +15
    Judging by the dynamics of the population of Ukraine, it is necessary to recognize the period from 1991 to our time as a genocide, and to judge all those who have been and are still in power in Ukraine, but for obvious reasons the European Parliament will not vote for this, otherwise it will recognize itself as an accomplice in genocide.

    The Verkhovna Rada has published the draft state budget for 2023. It, among other things, raised the issue of reducing the population after February 24th. The Rada provides the following statistical reference with figures: by September, the population had decreased to 27,8 million people, before the start of the war, 34,5 million people lived in the state, while in 1993 there were 52 million people in Ukraine.

    Of course, the draft focuses on the difference between the pre-war and current figures, plus it is separately stipulated that since February 24, about 12 million people left the country, and only 5,3 million of them returned. But the difference with the 1993 figures is striking. It turns out that since the beginning of the period of “independence” in Ukraine, the population has halved.

    Four million-plus cities remained in Ukraine. Kiev 3 million, Kharkov 1,5 million, Odessa 1,1 million, Dnepropetrovsk 1 million. For comparison, according to the data of 2022, there are 16 million-plus cities in Russia.

    Moscow 13004000 people.
    St. Petersburg 5596000 people.
    Novosibirsk 1634000 people.
    Yekaterinburg 1551000 people.
    Nizhny Novgorod 1226000 people.
    Kazan 1309000 people.
    Chelyabinsk 1190000 people.
    Samara 1173000 people.
    Omsk 1126000 people.
    Rostov-on-Don 1142000 people.
    Ufa 1145000 people.
    Perm 1034000 people.
    Krasnoyarsk 1188000 people.
    Voronezh 1058000 people.
    Volgograd 1051000 people.
    Krasnodar 1 people.
    1. Anachoret
      Anachoret 16 December 2022 10: 35
      +7
      The concept of "genocide" was introduced in the forties of the twentieth century) "Holodomor" was in the 30s, according to Ukrainian propaganda, although photographs of rural America in the 20s of the XNUMXs times of crisis and famine often slip through the "photo facts" of this propaganda. But we know that they will say “this is different”))
      But that's not the point)) as you know, the law does not have retroactive effect, or the Russian parliament can then recognize Cromwell's invasion of Ireland, followed by the mass extermination of the Irish and the ban on any entrepreneurial activity))) as the same genocide)))
      Britain's opium war against China should also be recognized as genocide))
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 16 December 2022 12: 40
        +2
        The English have not yet answered for the burning of our Joan of Arc. And it was not only the genocide of the French, but also the genocide of the feminists.
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 16 December 2022 13: 29
        +2
        The European Parliament recognized the Holodomor in Ukraine as genocide,

        It's just that the members of the European Parliament sold themselves to the criminal - since the end of the century before last - the Anglo-American Jewish kahal or are now simply part of it in the power of these countries, like, for example, the same Jew Zelensky, who grows rich with his kahal on the blood and death of other peoples and others countries.

        At the same time, on a global scale, the principle of "EXPANDING" and "ENGAGING" Jewish kahals depends only on the appearance or exhaustion of "feeding troughs" for them.
        This is happening right before our eyes. And this is of great importance for Europe and not only!

        Namely, now - i.e. during the EXHAUST of supplies to Europe of cheap Russian gas and electricity from Ukraine to the European Union, - we see this EXPANSION AND ENGAGEMENT of Jewish kahals - at the suggestion of the Jew Zelensky - just by the example of the adoption of this provocative decision of the European Parliament on the recognition and alleged "holodomor" by the Soviet authorities of Ukraine.

        The meaning of the word "kagal". KAGAL, ​​-a, m. 1. Jewish community self-government and the community itself in Poland in the 16th-19th centuries.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 16 December 2022 13: 58
          0
          Quote: Anchorite
          "Holodomor" was in the 30s, according to Ukrainian propaganda, although in the "photo facts" of this propaganda, photographs of rural America in the 20s of the XNUMXs, times of crisis and famine, often slip through. But we know that they will say “this is different”))

          As for the Holodomor of the 1920s in the United States, it was the Jewish settlers in the United States who formed the American Jewish Kahal with their chauvinistic rules of life that became the main organizers of the American mafia in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, seizing upon state power in the country.

          This mafia content of the American kahal of that time is even reflected in the American song culture of that time and even recognized by Jewish political observers in modern Israel! Namely, for example.


          {Text of the song "Jewish Kahal"}

          {Chorus}
          Tired of thinking how to raise capital
          He lied to the boss - he stopped breathing!
          This is a kahal, a Jewish kahal
          This is a kahal, a Jewish kahal
          Didn't pay back - shot, fell
          Buried the corpse - this is kahal
          Guessed? Jewish kahal
          Ev - ev - Jewish kagal

          {Verse 1}
          Under the cover of the Jewish kahal
          Throw scammers New York neighborhoods
          Boss at the helm with the book of Moses.
          Jews get richer to live kosher.
          Mannery, clinging like pincers -
          Pawnshops sell stolen items.
          The buyer pays cash without knowing everything
          Takes the TV that was stolen from him.
          Comfortable sandals - without investing a cent
          The Jewish habit is to fall on interest.
          With an accent, the Chinese sew Armani for them -
          Sell ​​the Jews, the rich walk.
          Bandits steal cars.
          A car got into the garage and the number was broken.
          Everything is rented without taxes, cash
          And brings the fortune of the kagalu

          {Chorus}

          {Verse 2}
          Promised Land, skyscraper kingdom.
          Jewish profit from Shanghai leopards:
          Dancing the waltz in the fur coat of a dyed dog
          There are fights for rare furs on Broadway.
          Painting on paper - for debtors:
          Along the line of fate, debt becomes a prison.
          Profitable mood among Jewish jewelers:
          It helps to sell what sparkles in the windows.
          A gift to the world - stones from Nepal (!) -
          Honed by Jews from broken glass containers.
          The stalled Camaro is the work of Abram.
          For years he has been filling with diluted gasoline.
          Brighton is dad, where meat is in restaurants
          Stomach stuffing guys from kahal.
          Profit from advertising, favorable rates
          Business flourishes in kosher shops.

          {Chorus}
      3. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 16 December 2022 13: 49
        +1
        I believe that it would be nice for the Russian Federation Council to easily and naturally "troll" the US and the EU, recognizing the genocide of the American people, the so-called. Great Depression 1929 - 1936.

        In any case, during this period, from hunger, in the "City on the Hill", no less people died than in the USSR, during a crop failure in 1932 - 1933 ...

        By the way, since the Great Depression was a DIRECT CONSEQUENCE of the political course and economic policy of the American authorities, the genocide of this American people must be recognized as deliberately organized by the American authorities ...
    2. laws70
      laws70 16 December 2022 10: 52
      +3
      It remains to include the “Holodomor in Ukraine” in the list of UNESCO historical and cultural heritage
      1. Zakirov Damir
        Zakirov Damir 16 December 2022 12: 48
        0
        Quote from: laws70
        It remains to include the “Holodomor in Ukraine” in the list of UNESCO historical and cultural heritage

        If included, then immediately "Holodomor 1933 and Holodomor 2022" in the UNESCO cultural heritage list.

        And it would be nice to again involve the Yakovlev team of liberal demographers - Andreev, Darsky and Kharkov - to justify 26 "Victims from SVO" for Ukraine as well.
    3. credo
      credo 16 December 2022 10: 56
      +8
      Instead of kicking tails and constantly making excuses, wouldn’t it be better for the domestic authorities to puzzle some institute in Moscow with the selection of material for a future book called “Black Pages of the History of European Countries”, which would list all the conquests, murder and genocide populations of other countries.

      Why should one begin to discover the true face of Europe, in all its manifestations without embellishment, and not stand on the defensive. angry
      1. fuel oil
        fuel oil 16 December 2022 11: 28
        -1
        Someone should deal with this, and we and the "partners" are trying to talk everything over. Will is needed, but for now there is political and military impotence. By the way, if they have claims against the leadership of the USSR, then they have claims against themselves? let them caress themselves with payments, compensations and other self-satisfaction. Let the Georgians, Balts, Armenians and many others not forget to issue invoices and demands. Why be surprised?
      2. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 16 December 2022 14: 32
        +1
        For starters, it would be nice to just "return" to the State Duma's annual report on the state of human rights in the United States.

        As far as my memory allows me to assert, earlier, 5 years ago, such reports were made quite regularly and annually ...

        And then, comrade deputies, it must be assumed, they simply "got bored" with this "boring prose of life", which does not bring any visible "pluses" to their personal ratings. And they, on the sly, "pushed" this undertaking "on a dusty slope" ...

        But the "Westerners", from this kind of "propagandistic horses", DO NOT get off in principle and NEVER. No matter what "improvements in relations" with Russia they hypothetically "shine" ...

        Here they are "hard-wired consistent" and in this "bored from prose undertaking" Russians should take an example from them ...
  2. Kaufman
    Kaufman 16 December 2022 10: 28
    +5
    And the fact that they exterminated the bison and deprived the Indians of the food supply? And the fact that the Irish were deliberately starved, so much so that many had to flee to the United States?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 December 2022 10: 39
      +1
      Quote: kaufman
      And the fact that they exterminated the bison and deprived the Indians of the food supply?

      Before exterminating the bison, they exterminated the Indians. And they ended up sending them all to the reservations.
      The last was the Indian land of Oklahoma, which the United States took in 1907, just 100 years ago. This is true Anglo-Saxon "democracy -" They came to visit, and then they kicked the owners out of the house.
      Doesn't it remind you of anything???
      1. laws70
        laws70 16 December 2022 11: 04
        +1
        This is true Anglo-Saxon "democracy -" They came to visit, and then they kicked the owners out of the house.
        Doesn't it remind you of anything???

        Only one famine, artificially organized by Churchill in Indian Bengal, killed several million Indians. By the way, the Indians were then subjects of the British crown, theoretically the same as the British.
  3. Uprun
    Uprun 16 December 2022 10: 29
    +2
    Well, let them also condemn the Tatar-Mongol yoke (according to one politician of the West, the Tatar and Mongol invasions), the outskirts will definitely feel better from this ....
  4. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 December 2022 10: 34
    +2
    The deputies of the European Parliament expressed "solidarity with the people of Ukraine and condemned the actions of the leadership of the Soviet Union."


    It turns out that the parliament condemned the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and its leadership.
  5. grandloup74
    grandloup74 16 December 2022 10: 39
    0
    Les paroles du parlement europeen larbin des us, ne vaut pas plus que la parole d'un parrain de la mafia. Donc, a prendre avec humor comme une bonne blague.
    1. Smoker
      Smoker 16 December 2022 10: 47
      +5
      Quote from Grandloup74
      Les paroles du parlement europeen larbin des us, ne vaut pas plus que la parole d'un parrain de la mafia. Donc, a prendre avec humor comme une bonne blague.

      This is not a joke .. this is a rewriting of history ... Creating the image of barbarians .. who is not a sin to teach a lesson ... to teach a bloody lesson .. You, among other things, are being prepared for a campaign to the east, now they are preparing an ideological base for this matter ..
  6. Leshak
    Leshak 16 December 2022 10: 41
    +1
    This is a confession of nothing. Except as a nod to Ukraine. Russia from this decision is neither hot nor cold. The state is being blamed, which, unfortunately, no longer exists.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 16 December 2022 10: 41
    0
    The European Parliament has recognized the "Holodomor" in Ukraine as genocide, in fact recognizing that as a result of the "genocide" the population may increase...
    . Yes, for the sake of their goals, the new elite is ready to rewrite even their own history ... and for everyone else, especially for those who are better than them and do not succumb to their pressure, they will rewrite and rewrite everything they want.
    There is no black or white, there is something / such as they need.
  8. stankow
    stankow 16 December 2022 10: 46
    0
    507 in favor, 12 against, but there are also deputies who diplomatically did not appear at the vote, so as not to compromise their conscience.

    And the dimensions of the monstrous devastation all Eastern Europe under Western occupation - to mention, but not to reveal at all.
  9. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 16 December 2022 10: 51
    +1
    Hiroshima, Nagasaki - these are the Crimes of Eternity. Everything else is dust in the eyes.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 December 2022 10: 54
    +1
    Well, now the EP is left for the full package to recognize Hitler and Germany as the injured party, and the USSR as the aggressor, guilty of war crimes and the Holocaust, and retire with satisfaction.
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 16 December 2022 12: 48
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, now the EP is left for the full package to recognize Hitler and Germany as the injured party, and the USSR as the aggressor, guilty of war crimes and the Holocaust, and retire with satisfaction.

      You don’t throw ideas at them, otherwise they will become, they really recognize it). Although we are neither hot nor cold from this.
  11. Konnick
    Konnick 16 December 2022 11: 01
    -1
    The Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the European Union called this odious decision of the European Parliament a deliberate distortion of historical facts.

    To say that the famine was organized, and even
    on a national basis
    , not just stupidity, but also an insult to the memory of the dead

    - the statement of the diplomatic mission says.

    The Holodomor was just on a national basis, why are we embarrassed to say this, only not organized, but self-organized by the mentality of Ukrainians. The initiative came from below. For centuries, the offended people during collectivization decided to cheat, such as let the neighbor lead his bull to the collective farm. and I’ll slaughter mine and sell the meat in the market, but ... the neighbor had the same national mentality, only in addition to slaughtering the bull, he also buried the grain in a damp pit ...
    Local authorities from the national cadres seemed to show solidarity with such owners and did not stop the mass slaughter of livestock ....
    Well, this is a long story that our authorities will not advertise for their own purposes of decommunization of the former great country.
    In the Russian Federation, there was no such mass slaughter of livestock; in the Russian Federation, again, peasants with Ukrainian roots distinguished themselves by this, especially in the Kuban ...
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 16 December 2022 13: 29
      +2
      Quote: Konnick
      In the Russian Federation, there was no such mass slaughter of livestock; in the Russian Federation, again, peasants with Ukrainian roots distinguished themselves by this, especially in the Kuban ...

      what Do you think that the inhabitants of the Volga region, Orenburg region, Kazakhstan, Altai and the south of the Krasnoyarsk Territory did not slaughter livestock and starved in solidarity with the inhabitants of Ukraine? And another question .... why were the cattle slaughtered?
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 16 December 2022 14: 18
        0
        According to you, it turns out that the inhabitants of the Volga region,

        The cattle were not slaughtered. And there was no famine, for example, in my Russian village in the Nizhny Novgorod region, although there was sand and swamps all around. And my grandmother told me about the slaughter of cattle by Ukrainians. There was no famine in the Nizhny Novgorod region, but the Saratov beggars were permanently grazed
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 16 December 2022 14: 29
          +1
          Quote: Konnick
          There was no famine in the Nizhny Novgorod region

          And it couldn't be there, it's not a grain-growing region. But I was in the Minusinsk Basin, my father talked a lot about it. And he was in Altai, and for example, the Kazakhs of the Senior Zhuz sold children for a loaf of bread, by the way, their cattle were forcibly taken away from them.
          Quote: Konnick
          but the Saratov beggars constantly grazed

          Starving Volga region, it's a fact!
      2. Konnick
        Konnick 16 December 2022 14: 19
        0
        And another question .... why were the cattle slaughtered?

        Ukrainians, thanks to their mentality, cunning and a thirst for freebies.
        Killed why? It was a pity to give it to "everyone", but let the neighbor bring his cattle. Read about the slaughter of chickens in Virgin Soil Upturned. The Russian village lived as a community, in contrast to the farm system. For example, in the village where my grandmother came from, there was a common garden even before the collective farms.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 16 December 2022 14: 41
          +2
          Quote: Konnick
          Ukrainians, thanks to their mentality, cunning and a thirst for freebies.

          And the lack of a food base and, as a result, a choice ... either slaughter and eat, or wait until the animal itself dies of hunger ... is it not considered by you at all?
          All-Union slaughter was under Khrushchev, when he introduced a tax on livestock ... it was, I don’t argue here, but to kill the last breadwinner for the sake of a mythical mentality ...?
          The situation, which has long been trying to pass off as a mythical genocide, has developed due to many factors. Here you have the beginning of collectivization, and the refusal of Britain to buy the Siberian forest (essentially oil and gas of the 30s), and the demand of the West to pay for industrialization exclusively with wheat, and the sabotage of the Leninist-Trotskyists against the new policy of Stalin!
          1. Konnick
            Konnick 16 December 2022 14: 54
            0
            And the lack of a food base and, as a result, a choice ... either score and eat

            At first there was a slaughter, and then not only the fodder base disappeared, the next year there was nothing to cultivate the fields, but from the grain hidden and buried in the damp ground with ergot, it was stupid and swollen and this grain was no longer suitable for seeds. They punished themselves.
  12. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 December 2022 11: 04
    +4
    Well, what kind of people are we?! We can't even "genocide" normally. winked Look, the same British, Germans, French and the like have already genocide so genocide that entire people have gone into oblivion. And among our "genocides" the population increased at a rate never seen before. And, if not for the war unleashed by the European masters of genocide, then in general there would be a little less people in Siberia and the Far East than in the Chinese provinces, but not by much.
  13. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 16 December 2022 11: 13
    +4
    Through the fault of the leadership of the USSR? Since the leadership of the Ukrainian SSR was part of the leadership of the USSR, the famine in Ukraine is also the fault of the leadership of Ukraine.
    In particular, two figures of the Pole Kosior and Chubar.
    It was they who hid the scale of the tragedy in front of the center and beat out a plan from the peasants in order to receive another order.
    For a hundred, they were rightly put against the wall.
    They did not report on the reduction of sown areas and that the supply plan should be revised towards reduction.
    There was also a severe drought, there were no mushrooms or berries in the forest. It is clear that part of the crop died.
    As soon as Moscow learned about the tragedy, trains with food and so on went to Ukraine.
    On the Internet there are telegrams with texts - select, allow, direct.
    I once posted them on the KM website.
    So that supposedly Ukrainians were starved on purpose, this is popularly called bullshit.
    And the fact that only ethnic Ukrainians were starved is outrageous nonsense.
    I read the information about Berdyansk, 60% of them died of hunger among them Russians. 30 Ukrainians and further Belarusians, Jews, Poles, etc.
    Most of all, the Westerners yell, who at that time were part of Poland. There was also a famine in Poland then.
    Well, by now everything has already been said before me.
    Ukraine left the USSR with a population of 52 million, and before the NVO there were no more than 30 million.
    Who arranged such a pestilence for "independent", independent Ukraine?
    Are the damn maskals to blame again? Or maybe just debils, thieves and crooks who robbed and destroyed Ukraine for 30 years?
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 16 December 2022 11: 24
      0
      I read the information about Berdyansk, 60% of them died of hunger among them Russians. 30 Ukrainians and further Belarusians, Jews, Poles, etc.

      This certificate was compiled by the Maydanuts, who recorded all the dead as victims of hunger. This is the usual proportion of city residents according to nationality. Yes, there was no famine in the cities. Therefore, it turns out according to the lists of victims of the Holodomor in Ukraine, the Russians are at the top of the list. These lists cannot be trusted.
  14. Luminman
    Luminman 16 December 2022 11: 15
    +1
    Quote: Captive
    Look, the same British, Germans, French and the like already genocide so genocide

    These would genocide them so that only embroidered shirts with forelocks in the form of a scalp would remain from them ... wink
  15. sanik2020
    sanik2020 16 December 2022 11: 46
    +2
    It is the whole world that should recognize as genocide what Europe has been doing to humanity for thousands of years, and let the whole world now work out, for now, for good, otherwise some humanity has already begun resettling in European homes and European grubs.
    1. Ulan.1812
      Ulan.1812 16 December 2022 13: 42
      0
      Quote: sanik2020
      It is the whole world that should recognize as genocide what Europe has been doing to humanity for thousands of years, and let the whole world now work out, for now, for good, otherwise some humanity has already begun resettling in European homes and European grubs.

      That's it. The world colonial system, two world massacres, it's all white and fluffy Europe. A bunch of bandits and perverts.
  16. Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 17 December 2022 06: 38
    +1
    In response, the intervention of 18-20 years can be recognized as genocide.