Retired US intelligence officer: Patriot air defense systems after transfer to Ukraine will become an easy target for Russian troops

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Retired US intelligence officer: Patriot air defense systems after transfer to Ukraine will become an easy target for Russian troops

The supply of American Patriot anti-aircraft systems will not change the situation with air defense, and the complexes themselves will become a fairly easy target for Russian troops. This was stated by retired US Marine Corps intelligence officer Scott Ritter.

According to the military, the Patriot air defense system is too complicated to operate; its use will require trained crews, which must undergo special training. In addition, the complex cannot be integrated into the air defense system of Ukraine, which has long been outdated and created on the basis of the Soviet one. All this will make the air defense system an easy target for Russian troops.



The Patriot will be isolated and therefore an easy target. I'm sure they'll be destroyed pretty quickly

- he added.

Many Western experts are inclined to the same opinion, stating that American air defense systems will bring more problems to Ukraine than they will solve them. It is assumed that the Russians will specifically hunt for American air defense systems in order to destroy them, and it will not be difficult to establish their location. The only thing that Patriot air defense systems are capable of in this situation is to amuse Zelensky's pride, who will be given a very expensive weapon, but not capable of changing the course of the Russian special operation.

Meanwhile, as it was reported the day before, a decision on the supply of American anti-missile systems to Ukraine has not yet been made. White House spokesman John Kirby said that he does not have the relevant information, Biden is allegedly waiting to be provided with all the data on a possible delivery, and the Pentagon generally shrugged. In general, Washington cannot confirm the transfer of complexes to Kyiv.
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    1. -6
      December 15 2022
      It is assumed that the Russians will specifically hunt for American air defense systems in order to destroy them.
      Too optimistic, suddenly the flyers will not be allowed to launch PR missiles, in the style of "No matter what happens, no matter how the partners are offended"!
      1. -3
        December 15 2022
        There is no point in destroying them, it is better to give the cost of our PR missile to the forelocks for them, and study it thoroughly. Well, as with Caesar). hi
      2. -1
        December 15 2022
        I think if they give it to the dill, then there will still be a video with the destruction, despite the lack of a video with the highmars. What kind of pindas they are, they think if the Hymars went with a bang and they did advertising, then it will fail here. Although xs. With our media resources, anything can be
      3. +4
        December 15 2022
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        a friend will not allow the flyers to launch PR missiles, in the style of "No matter what happens, no matter how the partners are offended"!

        Unfortunately, this option is possible, but judging by how the Houthis fired on Saudi oil refineries with simple lrons, which were covered by these patriots .. Still, this is all purely psychological ..
        In general, real air defense missile defense is defense in depth from different systems and is very expensive to completely close the sky.
        Here, most likely, the Poles demand from the United States to cover the western outskirts and bring in their troops, for this matter .. Vaughn Lukashenka pulled tank shock divisions to the borders of Ukraine and Poland (marked with a red square) So let's see more
    2. +3
      December 15 2022
      Normal SAM. Operators need to be trained for six months. Two months minimum.
      1. +2
        December 15 2022
        Well, yes, it’s so “normal” that it screwed up with the Houthi scuds several times, God knows what year of manufacture ... laughing
        1. +1
          December 15 2022
          Patriot planes shoot down regularly - no worse than the S-300.
          And Scuds are difficult to destroy with fragments. To do this, it is necessary for the fragment to break through the warhead. And so - the Patriots smashed the empty hull of the Scud with shrapnel (the fuel burned out long ago), and he continued to fly towards the target, only a little short.
          For this reason, the Americans in other missile defense systems switched to the expensive direct hit method.
          1. 0
            December 15 2022
            enough to shoot down on the approach. buckshot
          2. +1
            December 17 2022
            Quote: voyaka uh
            And so - the Patriots solved the empty hull of the Scud with fragments (the fuel burned out long ago), and he continued to fly towards the target, only a little short

            Well, that's the Patriots' problem:
            1. ZUR had too light GGE.
            2. RV ZUR carried out the undermining of the warhead to destroy the center section-bow of the aircraft, which for the Scud is just for empty tanks.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            For this reason, the Americans in other missile defense systems switched to the expensive direct hit method.

            This is one of two "methods". The second is the formation of a directed GGE flow. By the way, a "clean" direct hit only works in vacuum. For interception in the atmosphere, all missiles have warheads. The difference is in the GGE and the way these GGEs are given energy.
        2. +2
          December 15 2022
          Excuse me, but what complex is normal? Which complex has never been processed? Finally, which complex has an efficiency of 1.0? And another question - does God know in what year, say, Point U was developed?
      2. +1
        December 15 2022
        Quote: Michael
        Normal SAM. Operators need to be trained for six months. Two months minimum.

        Well, there will be no problems with this, there will be NATO calculations, as well as on everything that is now being supplied to the ukroreikh. hi
      3. -1
        December 15 2022
        Quote: Michael
        Normal SAM. Operators need to be trained for six months. Two months minimum.

        In two months they can only be taught how to open doors. The operator learns to point and capture for up to a year, and then, it depends on talent and knowledge ...
    3. -2
      December 15 2022
      Well ... the S-300, which was in the mass of dill at the beginning of the company ... and also put in a heap ... also not much worse than a patriot ... but the S-300 did not show itself as an invulnerable air defense ... against those who made it...
      Well, our side has always looked at the patriots ... and the opportunity to smash them
      The downside here is another one ... a patriot is not only air defense ... but also, if possible, surface-to-surface missiles
      Yes ... unpleasant ... but it does not change the global picture in CBO
      1. +7
        December 15 2022
        Quote from Sith
        Yes ... unpleasant ... but it does not change the global picture in CBO

        Yes, after StarLink, Javelin, M777 and HIMARS, Patriot will not affect the Ukrainian offensive in any way. That's right. But planning bombs and NATO attack aircraft may well.
        1. 0
          December 15 2022
          The Patriot will replace the S-300, for which the Ukrainian Armed Forces are running out of missiles.
          1. 0
            December 15 2022
            Quote: voyaka uh
            The Patriot will replace the S-300, for which the Ukrainian Armed Forces are running out of missiles.

            They will find the missiles, but they wouldn’t fly to Poland again, or over houses / bridges in Kukuev ...
    4. +3
      December 15 2022
      Yes it is obvious.
      If, of course, the partiot is used for hunting like the Ukrainians s-300, then it will still live.
      If to cover objects, then you need 3 more (THREE) missile defense / air defense echelons (medium-radius small-radius and MANPADS) to it.
      And so - just a target.
      And even in the case of a layered defense, I doubt that they will intercept the dagger. And so he shot and run, but can a patriot know how?
      1. +2
        December 15 2022
        Quote: bk316
        And so he shot and run, but can a patriot know how?


        Specialists say that they need 5-7 minutes to deploy and collapse, a total of 10-14 minutes plus work, and if the dagger is not far away, then it’s quite enough to destroy ...
        1. 0
          December 15 2022
          Specialists say that they need 5-7 minutes to deploy and collapse, a total of 10-14 minutes plus work, and if the dagger is not far away, then it’s quite enough to destroy ...

          It's not even that. He cannot defend the object on the march. Therefore the choice or you stand until the ammunition is depleted, repelled the first wave, reloaded and wait for the second, or first reflected curled up and tear and threw the object.
          This is the difference between artillerymen and air defense officers (I have both VUS laughing )

          This is treated by multiple overlapping of the air defense affected areas (and even the ACS is needed to transfer responsibility), but then the Ukrainians need dozens of complexes. And it is not a fact that management will be able to establish. That is what we were taught.
        2. 0
          December 15 2022
          Quote: cniza
          Specialists say that they need 5-7 minutes to deploy and collapse, a total of 10-14 minutes plus work, and if the dagger is not far away, then it’s quite enough to destroy ...

          Is Belarus close by?
    5. +5
      December 15 2022
      In general, Washington cannot confirm the transfer of complexes to Kyiv.


      They will act as always, they will confirm when he is already in Ukraine ...
      1. +1
        December 15 2022
        Also noticed this. At first they say that they are going to deliver, but it is already shooting there. Looks like they are being careful and in case of failure they are preparing a duck, they say they were not there.
    6. +6
      December 15 2022
      Well, yes, the outskirts are completely useless scrap metal, which nevertheless kills our guys so far. The supply of any, albeit very outdated, weapons is bad
    7. +3
      December 15 2022
      Retired US intelligence officer: Patriot air defense systems after transfer to Ukraine will become an easy target for Russian troops
      . Not one, no complex can fundamentally change the situation !!!
      To build something complex, effective, it takes time and ... a lot more ... oh yes, and also SPECIALISTS! Of course, aliens, it takes a long time to cook their own.
      This is an objective reality that you want / do not want to take into account.
      1. +3
        December 15 2022
        Not everyone understands this, and if they appear in Ukraine, then, together with Western specialists, they will become the number one target ...
        1. -1
          December 15 2022
          There, they weaned understanding for a long time ... for Pauases - skakuas, only faith is allowed.
          1. +5
            December 15 2022
            A lot of things are still uncertain, but we need to rely only on our own strength and be very diligent...
            1. +1
              December 16 2022
              Nobody except us!
              Although ... the USSR had real friends, allies, and Russia has such, if you do the right thing, and not wag, back and forth.
              1. 0
                December 17 2022
                Who were the real "friends-allies"? Were they not those who, without waiting for the end of the Second World War, planned the "Unthinkable"? Or those who are "brothers forever" with the Damansky incident? Perhaps Cuba ... but there were also "graters" there. There are no "friends-allies" in politics, everyone follows their own interests (or rages out of desperation).
    8. -1
      December 15 2022
      After the delivery of the SAMP-T air defense system with perhaps the most modern Western Aster missiles, the delivery of the Patriot will only change the range and strengthen the defense against the OTP.
    9. 0
      December 15 2022
      Patriot air defense systems after transfer to Ukraine will become an easy target for Russian troops

      So let's check what kind of vaunted American air defense system ....
    10. +5
      December 15 2022
      Ritter is still that Vanga, as an expert on the same level as the genius of Podolyak. There is no sense from these experts, so much has changed in a year that all these balabols could not even imagine. These devils will teach a lesson how to use their missile defense systems, it’s in the rear behind the hillock and not in a trench to study, he will prepare them. Further it will be seen what kind of technique and + and -
    11. 0
      December 15 2022
      and the target and purpose for obtaining intelligence, which is not unimportant
    12. +1
      December 15 2022
      I remind you that Scott Ritter is literally a convicted pedophile.
      1. 0
        December 17 2022
        And how does his sexual difficulties affect his professional qualities? Let me remind you that one of the associates of Jeanne d'Arc and Marshal of France, Gilles de Rais, was literally executed for "blue beard" and sexual problems with children involved in cannibalism (in general, the prototype of the "Bluebeard" of French fairy tales).
    13. +3
      December 15 2022
      Soon the United States will supply Ukraine with Abrams, Apaches, raptors, along with crews, and a retired officer will say that Russian soldiers are the best in the world, and Americans are fools squandering the budget. In fact, they want to split Russia, make the Russian nation insignificant, pump out all the resources, the rest is demagoguery. Apparently, closer to spring, intense hostilities are expected with the use of aircraft from both sides.
      1. 0
        December 15 2022
        Quote: Piligrim85
        Apparently, closer to spring, intense hostilities are expected with the use of aircraft from both sides.

        Well, this is unlikely, military air defense on the ground and air defense-missile defense around the perimeter will not let you lie ...
    14. 0
      December 15 2022
      Missiles for Buk and S-300 are running out, but as a replacement, the Patriot is clearly too expensive for this.
    15. 0
      December 15 2022
      Patriot air defense systems after transfer to Ukraine will become an easy target for Russian troops

      I’ll say more: where necessary, they have already prepared a hangar with screwdrivers ... lol
    16. -1
      December 15 2022
      Quote: Ohsetin
      Quote from Sith
      Yes ... unpleasant ... but it does not change the global picture in CBO

      Yes, after StarLink, Javelin, M777 and HIMARS, Patriot will not affect the Ukrainian offensive in any way. That's right. But planning bombs and NATO attack aircraft may well.

      planning bombs is a good thing, but there are misunderstandings with the range, they also need to be launched from a high altitude, the plane will immediately appear on the radar, but at safe heights, what range will it be?
      1. 0
        December 15 2022
        "planning bombs are a good thing, but misunderstandings with range, them .." ////
        ------
        An aircraft (for example, F-16) makes a candle up to a height of 10 km and releases a pack
        planning bombs 6-8 pieces. They fly (plan) 70-90 km.
        The aircraft dives abruptly and leaves at low altitude.
        Long-range missiles do not have time to hook it.
        1. 0
          December 17 2022
          And what is the accuracy of this "packet-candle" bombing?
          1. 0
            December 17 2022
            Accuracy depends on the ammunition, not the aircraft. You do not confuse the work of planning (adjustable) bombs and the launch of the NURS from the nose-up "somewhere in the direction of the enemy."
          2. 0
            December 17 2022
            The accuracy is equal to that of military GPS.
            The bomb flies to the coordinates of a stationary target.
    17. +2
      December 15 2022
      Retired US intelligence officer: Patriot air defense systems after transfer to Ukraine will become an easy target for Russian troops
      This is an "expert" of near-zero value and his conclusions are the same, but it will do for agitprop! winked
      Although it seems that now calls are being made to be truthful ...
    18. +2
      December 15 2022
      Quote: rocket757
      Retired US intelligence officer: Patriot air defense systems after transfer to Ukraine will become an easy target for Russian troops
      . Not one, no complex can fundamentally change the situation !!!
      To build something complex, effective, it takes time and ... a lot more ... oh yes, and also SPECIALISTS! Of course, aliens, it takes a long time to cook their own.
      This is an objective reality that you want / do not want to take into account.

      Well, Himars obviously changed? When he appeared in mid-June, how many warehouses with "saltpeter" and headquarters did he take out there?
    19. 0
      December 16 2022
      These patriots are still hiccuping the Saudis ... And here again soldier
    20. +1
      December 16 2022
      And if this air defense system does not know that it is an easy target, what will happen then?
    21. 0
      December 17 2022
      It seems to me that Scott Ritter is a bit of that. Listening to him is only to distract from problems and engage in complacency.
    22. 0
      December 17 2022
      Just watched an interview from the "other" side on a Chinese channel. A terrorist defense official told a journalist how a rocket was allegedly shot down from a machine gun during yesterday's strike on the Ukrainian energy grid.
      Maybe the United States should send not a Patriot, but just machine guns laughing
      1. 0
        December 17 2022
        Hunting slingshots, they are cheaper and BC is literally lying under your feet.
    23. 0
      December 17 2022
      These SAMs did not always intercept, even the old Iraqi SCADs, in ideal conditions. The probability of intercepting much more modern missiles, despite the fact that the probability of the arrival of PRR + EW, is very high, is highly doubtful.
    24. 0
      December 17 2022
      An easy target? I remember that the same thing was said in our media about the Chimeras. Although, there is no doubt that Konashenkov with his army (and after all, a lieutenant general is equated with an army commander, well, at least - a corps, right?) Will destroy them several times a day, like the Haimars.

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