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EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand that Russia withdraw from the "territory of Ukraine"

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EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand that Russia withdraw from the "territory of Ukraine"

The European Union and the North Atlantic Alliance will soon adopt a joint official appeal demanding that Moscow immediately withdraw its troops from Ukraine and testify to the full support of the Kyiv ruling regime. This information is provided by the newspaper Politico, referring to the draft joint declaration.


The Euro-Atlantic diplomatic appeal will be made public next week or early 2023.

It is noteworthy that, according to the publication, the text of the document was developed for more than a year, although the special operation in Ukraine lasts less than the tenth month. So, in the West, they prepared in advance for a proxy war with Russia on the territory of Ukraine and prepared the armed forces of this country for it.

The delay in the development of the declaration was due to tensions between Turkey and Cyprus, and it was originally planned to be signed at the June NATO summit in Madrid.

In addition to Russia, the declaration contains a section on China, which was introduced at the insistence of Germany.

According to Politico, the text of the declaration is unremarkable, but its adoption will be a serious diplomatic success against the backdrop of hitches with preparations.

Apparently, the main goal of the new appeal of the EU and NATO is to show their so-called unity in the confrontation with Russia in the Ukrainian direction. Given the demarches of Hungary, the contradictions with the supply weapons in Italy and the special position of Turkey, the unity of the Western camp does not look so unambiguous. Nevertheless, there is no reason to hope for a split in the camp of the opponents of the Russian Federation.

At the same time, it is not clear what this "declaration" is in general. Is this an ultimatum to Russia? If so, what measures is the West, led by the United States, going to take
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  1. voice of reason
    voice of reason 15 December 2022 12: 14
    +7
    They will get ears from dead salt and not a withdrawal of troops! Let them hide, express deep concern and draw a red line. And until we crush the Nazis, we will not go anywhere. By the way, this is the first sign, since they begin to howl and call for no negotiations, it means they know that the end is coming. So the clown gives them a signal that everything really sucks, let's save. They have been behaving this way since the time of the Basayev-Dudayev puppets. Withdraw troops from Chechnya and withdraw. We didn't take them out then. We won't leave now. First, withdraw the troops from Cuba! return Guantanamo to the Cuban people, the damned imperialists!
    1. Orange Bigg
      Orange Bigg 15 December 2022 12: 17
      +20
      So we are not in Ukraine. Kherson, Zaporozhye, Donetsk, Luhansk regions are Russia. Therefore, we have nothing to withdraw from Ukraine. It is Ukraine that does not want to withdraw its troops from the territory of Russia in a good way.
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 15 December 2022 12: 25
        +5
        Again they demand something. Did they take into account our requirements (take into account)? so they went very far.
        It is time to consider the EU as a branch of NATO in Europe. This is the same.
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 15 December 2022 12: 28
          +6
          And when did the West take into account someone's requirements? They take into account only someone else's strength and its magnitude and build one or another policy.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 15 December 2022 15: 41
            0
            EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand that Russia withdraw from the "territory of Ukraine"

            This is nothing but a PREPARATION of Brussels and NATO / USA, which, long before the start of the NWO, provided for the following. Ah imno.

            If Russia in the proxy war of the United States and the collective West against the Russian Federation in Ukraine begins to win VICTORY in the Donbass - i.e. if the allied RF Armed Forces overcome all the concreted three-lane fortified lines of the defense line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the southeast of the country around the DLNR and enter the operational space - then the West will need to wrest its piece from the Ukrainian territories from the conquering Russia!

            In other words, NATO and the Collective West goes to plan B.
            Namely, proceeds to the division of the territory of Ukraine itself between neighboring countries - Poland, Romania, Slovakia... - or more precisely, all that is still left of it now, i.e. until Russia took all of Ukraine for itself, freeing it from hordes of Bandera and foreign neo-Nazis.

            Of course, that Poland, as the "hyena of Europe", according to Churchill, again - as before WWII - is at the same time in the forefront!

        2. ABC-schutze
          ABC-schutze 15 December 2022 13: 55
          +6
          And Russia's answer to this "future Declaration" of theirs has already been given by Moscow at the end of 2021...

          In the form of official and written demands from Moscow to NATO and the United States to ensure the security of Russia and take into account its legitimate national interests...

          So, for the Kremlin, instead of an "answer" it simply stands casually and lightly, "pointing the finger" to Washington, Mons and Brussels at these timely, polite and reasonable demands of Russia sent to them ...
        3. fif21
          fif21 15 December 2022 16: 19
          +3
          Quote: 4ekist
          Again they demand something.

          The main thing is that the paper is soft. For intended use. tongue
      2. zloybond
        zloybond 15 December 2022 12: 37
        +4
        Well, if Russia has not yet officially withdrawn the recognition of the Ukrainian regime. Until now, she has not recognized fascists, Nazis and terrorists - fascists, nationalists and terrorists - what can I say ... mumbling in the government, hucksters, business officials ....
      3. Barabashka
        Barabashka 15 December 2022 12: 48
        -4
        if someone besides us recognized this in the world, otherwise it would be possible to hold a referendum in Hawaii
        1. Orange Bigg
          Orange Bigg 15 December 2022 12: 53
          +5
          Quote: Lamb
          if someone besides us recognized this in the world, otherwise it would be possible to hold a referendum in Hawaii


          The time will come, let's go.
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 15 December 2022 15: 13
          +2
          Quote: Lamb
          if someone besides us recognized this in the world

          Where are you?
    2. credo
      credo 15 December 2022 12: 34
      +12
      By the way, this is a good reason for the national parliament to adopt a resolution condemning the United States and the NATO bloc for unleashing all the wars and coups d'état that they have staged over the past 40-50 years around the world, as well as demanding the withdrawal of troops, military bases and biological laboratories of the United States and the NATO bloc from territories of the former Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, the former republics of the USSR and return the NATO bloc to the borders before 1990.

      Our deputies need to more actively defend the interests of the country and the Union State, the SCO and BRICS states, since we are dealing with such "partners".
      1. Kuzyakin15
        Kuzyakin15 15 December 2022 14: 02
        -1
        Credo:
        And many deputies have an interest not in Russia, but behind the cordon: the kids are there, houses, etc. And in Russia they earn little money. Laws are adopted for us, but they call for patriotism.
        Why are they fighting for Russian interests with partners. They mumble some kind of concern and that's enough.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 15 December 2022 14: 50
        +1
        Quote: credo
        By the way, this is a good reason for the national parliament to adopt a resolution condemning the United States and the NATO bloc for unleashing all the wars and coups d'état that they have staged over the past 40-50 years around the world, as well as demanding the withdrawal of troops, military bases and biological laboratories of the United States and the NATO bloc from territories of the former Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, the former republics of the USSR and return the NATO bloc to the borders before 1990.

        For starters, you can adopt a declaration demanding that mattresses vacate the lands of the indigenous peoples of America from their presence, which is just as impossible as the withdrawal of Russia from its native Russian historical territories. yes
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 15 December 2022 12: 52
      +2
      The answer from us will be as easy as shelling pears. We achieve our goals in Ukraine with conventional weapons, if they want to get in with their troops, we will talk like an adult." Ukraine died like that. And Biden will be the first to shout. Same-sex love does not at all imply its protection with nuclear warheads.
      1. Mihail0221
        Mihail0221 15 December 2022 13: 07
        +1
        let's talk like an adult. "And all the arrogance of the NATO Bobik will turn into a screech: And we are behind sho, a nuclear club.
        we will come to this. We'll have to brandish a nuclear club. It is desirable that they come as soon as possible. And whoever thinks to compete with NATO "guns and tanks" is either a hohol, or a traitor, or a non-resident of Russia, or just our cretin.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 15 December 2022 13: 20
          +2
          He is not a cretin at all, he is responsible for his people. His New Year's greetings to the Russian people will be watched on 23 (MSK) in a white barn in Washington with special interest.
          1. isv000
            isv000 17 December 2022 20: 45
            +1
            Quote: tralflot1832
            He is not a cretin at all, he is responsible for his people. His New Year's greetings to the Russian people will be watched on 23 (MSK) in a white barn in Washington with special interest.

            During the week, there was a crackle and hydrogen sulfide was drawn from the West - they watched the setting up of Yarsov and Avangard on the database ... lol Happy Strategic Rocket Forces Day! drinks
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 17 December 2022 20: 50
              +1
              For our nuclear shield, you can take it on your chest. Happy holiday. If only there was health. hi drinks
              1. isv000
                isv000 17 December 2022 23: 43
                0
                Quote: tralflot1832
                For our nuclear shield, you can take it on your chest. Happy holiday. If only there was health. hi drinks

                Santa Claus! I envy you so much, kindly!.. You have +18 and the lilacs have blossomed.... drinks hi
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 18 December 2022 00: 16
                  +1
                  I don’t know about the lilac, but it was +13 in the shade, the lemon was blooming before the new year. And yesterday the wind and rain went to work, the umbrella was almost perpendicular to the ground. our salary. We must have been snickering here in Sochi. drinks
                  1. isv000
                    isv000 18 December 2022 12: 06
                    +1
                    Some stupid dog threw me a minus for Grandfather with lilacs ... belay
                    1. tralflot1832
                      tralflot1832 18 December 2022 12: 28
                      +1
                      I have fans, you are for the company. For the fact that you communicate with me. lol hi
                    2. Beck69
                      Beck69 19 December 2022 01: 01
                      -1
                      Maybe they threw it right, grandfather with geraniums ??????
                      1. isv000
                        isv000 19 December 2022 22: 20
                        0
                        Quote: Beck69
                        Maybe they threw it right, grandfather with geraniums ??????

                        Popular proverb: there is nothing to cast pearls in front of pigs!
  2. Myths
    Myths 15 December 2022 12: 15
    +4
    That's what was required to prove they Dictate their conditions to anyone they want ...
    Other countries not included in this bloc also demand to stop organizing coups, interfering in the internal affairs of states, maintaining territorial integrity, and so on. that they themselves trampled ...
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 15 December 2022 12: 15
    +7
    EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand that Russia withdraw from the "territory of Ukraine"
    Yes, they will send them, publicly, at least ...
    What and how there, behind the scenes / under the carpet, will happen, they will not report to us, but the "piSaRchuks" will write a lot of different things.
    In general, everything is as always.
  4. sanik2020
    sanik2020 15 December 2022 12: 16
    +7
    Let, according to the same laws on decommunization, the lands received from the communists be returned.
  5. potap6509
    potap6509 15 December 2022 12: 18
    +7
    Fie on them with their demands, three times, let them demand from their wives, partners.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 15 December 2022 12: 28
      +5
      Quote: potap6509
      let them demand from their wives

      Ouch!!! What are you talking about??? Nizzyaya!!! There are no such people now and the word will perish for centuries !!! So the great Can proclaimed!!! wassat There are women and women there now. laughing
    2. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 15 December 2022 12: 49
      +3
      Well, yes. In Soviet times, there was a beer stall near our house. On it hung a poster "require topping up beer after settling foam." I give this example as an example of a fair legal requirement. Let THIS be demanded, and all people of good will on earth will treat them with respect. And what they demand is empty projecting or the delirium of a madman. They came up with a lot of things to spoil us. We abstain, we promise everything, but we do not do it. What, for example, does our ambassador do in Poland, besides pretending to be a trash can. But we are not offended by spitting, because we are pragmatic.
  6. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 15 December 2022 12: 18
    +4
    It is necessary to send a counter demand - to stop the supply of weapons, otherwise 1 ..., 2 ..., 3 ...
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 15 December 2022 12: 29
      +2
      Quote: IvanIvanov
      stop the supply of weapons, otherwise 1..., 2..., 3...

      Better in reverse order 3..., 2..., 1..., START!
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 15 December 2022 13: 28
        0
        Quote: NDR-791
        Better in reverse order 3..., 2..., 1..., START!

        The object of impact is Yolunstone Park, the mouth of a volcano ... just one "tablet" is enough, they won't even take off at home. Well, we will survive three years of crop failure somehow ....
    2. Tatyana Pershina
      Tatyana Pershina 15 December 2022 12: 53
      +2
      Not 1...2...3... but three hundred and thirty three! Now it is accepted.
  7. svp67
    svp67 15 December 2022 12: 18
    +8
    EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand that Russia withdraw from the "territory of Ukraine"
    Well, well ... it remains to ASK the EU and NATO, set an example and leave the "territory of Serbia"
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 15 December 2022 13: 23
      +3
      You are hinting at Kosovo! The Serbs won't mind.
  8. laws70
    laws70 15 December 2022 12: 25
    -4
    Is this an ultimatum to Russia?

    Strategic Nuclear Forces of the Russian Federation in a special regime! And speak louder about it.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 15 December 2022 13: 26
      0
      He is already in a special regime, some of the strategists are already in Olenegorsk. They have already dispersed for a long time. All that remains is to leave the berths empty. There are no idiots sitting in the Pentagon.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 December 2022 12: 25
    +4
    And if Russia does not obey, then we will stomp our feet on it?
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    2. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 15 December 2022 12: 51
      +5
      Danced when they shouted: Assad must go? And about Crimea, how much stink was there? It did not help much, and the bridge would not be built and there was enough other rubbish.
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    4. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 15 December 2022 15: 21
      0
      Quote from: anyname
      how cute a hopak will dance and sing. Who will consider such a sheep for a person? And he even ran for president.

      Are you talking about your rat President Zel? So he sings and plays the piano with a member. hopak dances in front of Soros and Rothschild, seven forty rustles. Lips slaps everywhere .. Dirty lying rat, Zelya, your idol .. Go cry to him ... .
  11. Wedmak
    Wedmak 15 December 2022 12: 28
    +6
    And the US does not want to leave the territory of Syria? Well, this is an example, all the places from where the states should dump for a long time. And the EU would generally be silent against the backdrop of colonial pressure on African countries. In general, in order to poke the Westerners with their noses into their own sins, you don’t even need to dig deep, just blow off the dust.
  12. Sith
    Sith 15 December 2022 12: 30
    +2
    And then if he does not obey the requirements ... then what?)
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 15 December 2022 13: 56
      0
      Negotiations on our terms. Otherwise, fuck. In the Bible, the daughter looked back at what God was doing with Sadom and Gamora and turned into a pillar of salt. They have the option of turning into ashes. What do you think they will choose? Don't look back!
    2. Woodman
      Woodman 15 December 2022 14: 44
      0
      Quote from Sith
      . what then?)

      Migration. Where it's warmer.
      “There are some Germans who come to us to spend the winter, because renting an apartment with utility bills for four months in Kaliningrad [at a cost] is like one month in Düsseldorf,” Alikhanov said.
  13. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 15 December 2022 12: 30
    +3
    There can be no negotiations until Russia smears Bandera's Ukraine and makes Europe beg for a new security architecture. Then Russia will dictate its terms, and it will be possible to talk about some acceptable option.
    1. Nikolay310
      Nikolay310 15 December 2022 12: 54
      -6
      Russia, even in the 45th year, could not single-handedly dictate its conditions ... although at that time it had an army that carried out the Bagration operation with the liberation of Belarus and some other territories in 2 months ... now you are going to smear and dictate??? The Red Army Bagration completed the operation to liberate Artyomovsk and Soledar faster than the RF Armed Forces ... and even then, without the Wagnerites, where would these dictators be ... first you need to restore order in the rear and at the front, achieve decisive victories, and then dream .. .and you have Guderian near Tula, but you are trying to hold the Nuremberg Tribunal ... get off the planet of pink ponies to our sinful land ...
  14. Boniface
    Boniface 15 December 2022 12: 31
    0
    first, let them answer ONE for YOURSELF ONLY question:
    - And who are (what is) the EU and NATO, for Russia?

    I will answer - NO ONE and NOTHING!
  15. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 15 December 2022 12: 34
    +1
    "The EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand that Russia withdraw from Ukraine" -


    ***
    Our answer to Chumburlen:
    "Don't stick your nose where the dog hasn't put his tail"...
    ***
  16. Vladimir Sedov
    Vladimir Sedov 15 December 2022 12: 37
    0
    These fools still have not understood that Russia does not care about all their demands.
    1. Kotov_Oleg
      Kotov_Oleg 15 December 2022 12: 43
      +1
      I wouldn't call them idiots. Arrogance is the first path to defeat.
      1. Vladimir Sedov
        Vladimir Sedov 15 December 2022 13: 10
        0
        Such statements are another step towards confrontation. With a nuclear power. And who are they after that?
    2. Nikolay310
      Nikolay310 15 December 2022 12: 50
      -5
      oh is it? and there was no grain deal, right? or is it in the interests of the Russian? in my opinion, it’s other idiots who still haven’t understood what they’ve gotten themselves into ... that the RF Armed Forces, together with Wagner, have been storming Artyomovsk for months ... and that’s all the parades in Warsaw, but nuclear strikes on Riga
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 15 December 2022 13: 33
        +1
        The grain deal is a reason for our grain growers to earn money for the next harvest. See the Zerno.RU website.
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 December 2022 12: 37
    0
    EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand that Russia withdraw from the "territory of Ukraine"
    If for a whole year they could not give birth to their demand, then what is the conversation about? And what do they generally consider the territory of Ukraine and does this not go against the Russian interpretation of borders? In response, the Russian side should recommend that the EU and NATO use their declaration of appointment in some secluded place.
  18. George Miloslavsky
    George Miloslavsky 15 December 2022 12: 38
    0
    So after that they need to be determined by the party to the conflict and hammered. Start with the Baltic extinctions.
    1. Nikolay310
      Nikolay310 15 December 2022 12: 46
      -4
      yes, yes ... it’s impossible to cope with Ukraine, and you also offer to get involved in a direct armed conflict with NATO countries ... don’t do stupid things at your leisure, but read Article 5 of the NATO charter ... maybe even then you will grow wiser .. .

      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 15 December 2022 13: 36
        0
        Does Article 5 mean to die under a nuclear attack? No one wants to die there, from the word at all, against the victory of Russia. But what about Western well-being. We lived under the USSR and we will live under Russia.
      2. Woodman
        Woodman 15 December 2022 14: 48
        0
        Quote: Nikolay310
        and read the 5th article of the NATO charter ... maybe even then you will grow wiser ...

        When the Turks and, literally recently, the Poles remembered this article, both were told to figure it out for yourself, because "this is different." Here's everything you need to know about "Article 5 of the NATO Charter".
        1. Beck69
          Beck69 19 December 2022 01: 08
          0
          Article 5 of the NATO Charter is about the Old European crap-cracies, and does not apply to psheks, tribaltics, mamalyzhnikov and others like them. Their task is to die like Ukrainians, beautifully.
    2. solar
      solar 15 December 2022 13: 18
      -3
      So after that they need to be determined by the party to the conflict and hammered. Start with the Baltic extinctions.


      Ouch ........ !
  19. Kotov_Oleg
    Kotov_Oleg 15 December 2022 12: 42
    0
    Another deep concern. I guess no more.
  20. Nikolay310
    Nikolay310 15 December 2022 12: 43
    -2
    for thirty years we have been told that the USSR is a relic, that we need to be friends with everyone, trade and other partnerships ... and all partnerships ultimately boiled down to give us wealth, and we will let you use iPhones ...

    and what’s funnier is that the most patriotic patriots are those who dragged the Russian Federation into the WTO, who dragged our education into the Bologna system ... dear, when were you right ??? Is the Bologna system and other Western handouts and funds still good or evil? Isn't it time to admit that for 20 years you have been leading the country in the wrong direction and at least apologize to the population who heroically endured all this on their shoulders? or will foreign and domestic policy be so in the interests of Gazprom, Vekselberg, Abramovich and Mazepin???
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 15 December 2022 13: 01
      +1
      Quote: Nikolay310
      at least apologize

      100 times Ha ha ha ! No need to apologize to the servants ..
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 15 December 2022 13: 41
      -1
      Let it be known to you that the well-being of the USSR was also based on trade with the West. Fish from the USSR cost a penny for Western buyers, but there was a lot of it.
  21. Pravodel
    Pravodel 15 December 2022 12: 43
    +3
    The EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand...

    We would also need to demand the withdrawal of US troops from geyropey, Japan, etc., and get all the geyropean countries out of the colonies that they still occupy and plunder ..
  22. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 15 December 2022 12: 45
    +2
    Euro-Atlantic diplomatic appeal to be made public next week

    Is it like an ultimatum? So the oncoming file is to get the Yankees out of Europe with their nuclear junk.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 15 December 2022 13: 04
      0
      "...and also to all members of this shameful company an ultimatum." I don’t know what it is,” Kvakin announced mockingly. ... - This is such an international word. They will beat him, - explained the shaven-headed boy Alyoshka, who was standing next to the Figure.
  23. stankow
    stankow 15 December 2022 12: 48
    0
    Wow. The gynecologist is angry!
    ....................
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 December 2022 12: 52
    +2
    If everything that NATO and the EU require is fulfilled ....... then the Russian Federation will definitely not be.
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    1. Woodman
      Woodman 15 December 2022 14: 58
      0
      Quote: vlad2000
      in reality, Russia cannot do anything to anyone. even to Tajiks

      In reality, the NATO countries could not do anything even to the Afghans. For 20 years. With the "help" of "contingents" from Georgia and Ukraine.
      And Russia is not going to do anything to the Tajiks, since Tajikistan is a member of the CSTO. And the Tajiks have a Russian base. So NATO will not be able to "do anything to the Tajiks". And precisely because of Russia.
  26. APASUS
    APASUS 15 December 2022 12: 54
    +1
    The European Union and the North Atlantic Alliance will soon adopt a joint official appeal demanding that Moscow immediately withdraw troops from Ukraine and testify to the full support of the Kyiv ruling regime.

    Who signed this declaration of the USA and the Balts?
  27. I dare to_notice_
    I dare to_notice_ 15 December 2022 12: 54
    0
    Declaration is the name of a normative legal act, which aims to give it a solemn character. (from wiki).
    So there!
    I hope that Russia will respond to this solemn normative-legal one with a completely ordinary sexual one.
  28. Kaufman
    Kaufman 15 December 2022 12: 59
    0
    The fantasies of commentators are limitless .. however, in order to realize everything that they dream about here, oh, what efforts are needed. And iron will.
    So one can be very pessimistic about what goodwill gestures will follow.
    And commentators will continue to dream
  29. zontov79
    zontov79 15 December 2022 12: 59
    -1
    Yogurt on the lips! The text of my comment is too short, but it makes so much sense.
  30. Wladimir134
    Wladimir134 15 December 2022 12: 59
    +1
    I repeat. We need political will. And it’s not clear that with incomprehensible goals that can be changed. And people still need to explain why all this
  31. alexey_444
    alexey_444 15 December 2022 13: 01
    -2
    There are too many officials there, it is necessary to work out salaries, and at the same time they declare travel allowances, parties, what else is needed for idlers.
  32. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 15 December 2022 13: 02
    -1
    According to Politico, the text of the declaration is unremarkable, but its adoption will be a serious diplomatic success against the backdrop of hitches with preparations.


    "Meli Emelya, your week!"
    The US and the EU want to leave the fascist regime in Ukraine, so that it licks its wounds and again, together with the Western evil spirits, "Drang nah Osten" goes.
  33. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 15 December 2022 13: 07
    -3
    Readers! Not from Ukraine, but from Ukraine! Respect your native Russian language (if, of course, it is your native language)...
  34. Geosun
    Geosun 15 December 2022 13: 07
    -1
    Quote: zloybond
    Well, if Russia has not yet officially withdrawn the recognition of the Ukrainian regime.

    And here it is not. Russia has not recognized elections in Ukraine since the age of 14.
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 15 December 2022 13: 15
      0
      Well, our official met with Powder.
  35. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 15 December 2022 13: 14
    +1
    As usual, the mountain will give birth to a mouse.
    The site administration does not carry useful information.
  36. Joker62
    Joker62 15 December 2022 13: 24
    +1
    EU and NATO in a joint declaration will demand that Russia withdraw from the "territory of Ukraine"

    Alas, ours will not leave the historical Ancient Rus'. Let the gay Europeans themselves get out of our land with their "values" in the garbage caves.
  37. iouris
    iouris 15 December 2022 17: 15
    0
    How is the EU different from NATO? And who is worse? And why did the Russian Federation "stand up relations" with both? Why didn't you join?
  38. Sith
    Sith 15 December 2022 20: 19
    0
    I don’t understand the context of dill ... they are making noise about the borders of 91 ... if you disassemble the 91st ... then you can cancel ... Ukraine as a state ... and by the right of succession of the USSR-> RF ... just consider it your territory. .. the debts of the USSR then gave to the Russian Federation
  39. Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 16 December 2022 20: 19
    0
    How vile! And in Anglo-Saxon. In 1945, they recognized the inviolability of the borders of ALL countries. And now they are reviewing it. It seems to me that an adequate response would be the adoption of a declaration on the restoration of the Russian Federation within the borders of the Republic of Ingushetia in the western direction. The same non-binding piece of paper, but challenging all their attempts. But they won't accept it. For your bank account is more important than the state.
  40. isv000
    isv000 17 December 2022 20: 40
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    And if we leave, then what? Will we be immediately forgiven, loved and embraced? Until we suffocate... Amananga! Since such a booze has gone, cut the last cucumber !!!