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The United States and its satellites wanted to challenge Russia's right to the Arctic

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The United States and its satellites wanted to challenge Russia's right to the Arctic

The Arctic region is of increasing interest to many countries of the world, given its wealth of natural resources and the Northern Sea Route passing through the Arctic. Naturally, the United States and a number of other countries view Russia's presence in the Arctic with ill-concealed envy.


The United States has made a number of important policy announcements in the Arctic. First of all, they concern the Arctic Council. According to Washington, the US will seek to preserve the Arctic Council by making its funding more consistent. In fact, this means that the American authorities want to take control of the financial side of the Arctic Council in order to more effectively influence its activities.

According to the White House, the development of the Arctic and international cooperation in this area are key tasks for the United States. But Russia, which chairs the Arctic Council in 2021-2023, is paradoxically not named by the US as a key partner in the Arctic region. That is, in fact, they want to squeeze Russia out of the Arctic Council, in the same way as from other international organizations.

Because other Nordic countries are allied with the US, in March 2022 they suspended participation in Arctic Council events. Canada, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Iceland and Norway are all military and political allies, US satellites and potential enemies of Russia.

Thus, having enlisted the support of the listed northern countries, the United States plans to continue to operate in the Arctic without Russia. As early as September 27, 2022, the Office of Arctic Strategy and Global Resilience was created in the US Department of Defense, headed by Iris Ferguson. The creation of this department within the Pentagon speaks volumes. First of all, this emphasizes that the United States will focus on military methods in the "development" of the Arctic region.

As for ignoring Russia in the Arctic Council, this is another step in the framework of the notorious “cancellation strategy”. Now the West will pretend that there is no Russia in the Arctic. This is contrary to common sense, but it is true, and the same American politicians have long been developing a political and legal justification for their claims to the Arctic, which supposedly should not belong to Russia, but to the "international community" (read - the same USA).

Naturally, Russia cannot ignore such actions. One of the decisive responses to the US Arctic policy should be a comprehensive strengthening of the power of the Russian state, the armed forces in the Arctic region. Actually, this is already being done, but it is worth acting at a more active pace.

As we can see, no treaties and agreements, forums and conferences will work if it is not beneficial for the United States. Since the West fears only force, the option of militarizing the Arctic region remains, unfortunately, the only possible strategy for ensuring the absolute security of the northern Russian territories.
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  1. dnestr74
    dnestr74 15 December 2022 10: 05
    -21
    So why not, we have so many brown lines))))
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      1. novel66
        novel66 15 December 2022 10: 13
        +1
        Well, when are we going to rush? It's time to
        !
        Ttttt
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 15 December 2022 10: 14
        +15
        I would have preferred that they were harnessed on time and drove normally. And they didn’t rush headlong, setting fire and maiming the horses. sad
      3. 4ekist
        4ekist 15 December 2022 10: 23
        +3
        That is, in fact, they want to squeeze Russia out of the Arctic Council, in the same way as from other international organizations.

        Well, if we continue to defend our interests in Ukraine and the territory like this, then we will be squeezed out of the Arctic and not only.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 15 December 2022 11: 12
          +8
          What will be squeezed out? Does any of those listed have the same icebreaking fleet as ours? And most importantly, how are they going to overcome the Northern Sea Route?
          1. ABC-schutze
            ABC-schutze 15 December 2022 12: 43
            +7
            Nobody has. And, in the long run, it won't be for long...

            But here the question is not the potential of the Russian icebreaker fleet, but the presence of the Russian authorities' political will, as well as real readiness and ability to protect their legitimate rights and interests in the Russian Arctic sector...

            I believe that ANY attempts by foreign ships to "freely" follow, without the permission of the Russian Administration of the Northern Sea Route and without the escort of Russian icebreakers, the Northern Sea Route, within the limits of Russian territorial waters (12-mile zone) should IMMEDIATELY STOPPED BY FORCE.

            Foreign civil ships - to arrest (with possible subsequent confiscation, crews - on trial, for illegal violation of the border and intrusion into the territorial waters of Russia. And give the terms, immediately, moderate (within a year to three), but in no way, " not conditional...

            And when invading the territorial waters along the NSR route of foreign SURFACE warships, when approaching territorial waters, warn, in the event of an invasion, immediately use strike aircraft and DBK on them.

            If there are signs of an invasion by foreign nuclear submarines, immediately sink with depth charges from anti-submarine aircraft ...

            And no subsequent long "explanations - excuses. It should be clear to everyone that ANY violation of the Russian border and intrusion into Russian territorial waters is forcibly and harshly suppressed immediately and steadily ...
            1. lisiy prapor
              lisiy prapor 15 December 2022 15: 23
              -3
              Quote: ABC-schütze
              Nobody has. And, in the long run, it won't be for long...

              But here the question is not the potential of the Russian icebreaker fleet, but the presence of the Russian authorities' political will, as well as real readiness and ability to protect their legitimate rights and interests in the Russian Arctic sector...

              I believe that ANY attempts by foreign ships to "freely" follow, without the permission of the Russian Administration of the Northern Sea Route and without the escort of Russian icebreakers, the Northern Sea Route, within the limits of Russian territorial waters (12-mile zone) should IMMEDIATELY STOPPED BY FORCE.

              Foreign civil ships - to arrest (with possible subsequent confiscation, crews - on trial, for illegal violation of the border and intrusion into the territorial waters of Russia. And give the terms, immediately, moderate (within a year to three), but in no way, " not conditional...

              And when invading the territorial waters along the NSR route of foreign SURFACE warships, when approaching territorial waters, warn, in the event of an invasion, immediately use strike aircraft and DBK on them.

              If there are signs of an invasion by foreign nuclear submarines, immediately sink with depth charges from anti-submarine aircraft ...

              And no subsequent long "explanations - excuses. It should be clear to everyone that ANY violation of the Russian border and intrusion into Russian territorial waters is forcibly and harshly suppressed immediately and steadily ...

              Ay. What planet are you from? Let me remind you: the former south-eastern regions of Ukraine, the results of the referendum, became part of the Russian Federation. That is, in fact, at the moment, the armed forces of a neighboring state are on the territory of the Russian Federation, which are killing citizens of the Russian Federation, using the entire range of weapons available to them. And how, the government of the Russian Federation declared war on Ukraine? That's it, the maximum they will shoot "on the course" from a machine gun. Ugh...
              1. ABC-schutze
                ABC-schutze 15 December 2022 15: 42
                +1
                Actually, from the same planet as you...

                But after the anti-constitutional coup d'état in Kyiv in the fall of 1914, there is no longer any "Ukraine" as a state. Basically no...

                For with the illegal collapse of the constitutional structure of the state (which determines ALL of its components, including not only the nature and powers of power, but also the territorial and administrative structure ...), the former state itself disappears, as such ...

                And who is already there, that he "recognizes" in the interests of his political and other conjuncture, this is the "tenth" thing. It has a very distant relation to international law. In such cases, only the one who wins the final and irreversible victory becomes "legitimate" ...

                This means that there is only the territory of the former united Ukraine, covered by a civil war for 9 years. So, strictly speaking, in Russia, purely in legal, international legal terms, there is simply no one to "declare" "wars" officially. It would be the same as officially "declaring war" on some gang or terrorist group...

                They are simply destroyed by military force, without prior notice. And "everything". That's the whole "war" ... And this, for Russia, is only a matter of time, consistency and political will of the Kremlin inhabitants ...
                1. lisiy prapor
                  lisiy prapor 15 December 2022 16: 57
                  -1
                  Quote: ABC-schütze
                  But after the anti-constitutional coup d'état in Kyiv in the fall of 1914, there is no longer any "Ukraine" as a state. Basically no...

                  Is there an embassy? Were there negotiations ("Minsk", there, and after the start of "SVO")? Contracts are concluded, "hydrocarbons" are pumping with all their might? So, legally recognized. So it is possible (and as follows from my previous comment, it is necessary) to declare war. And not this wretched NWO, which was started due to the fact that the Sumerians were shelling the Donbass. In two months - already a year, but things are still there. And cho, the money is spinning, the Kremlinites are in chocolate, and the electric cattle will be born. Like children, by God, 22 years have already passed, and in the KhKHP they believe the "great shahmanaut", "leader of the Siberian Cranes". Let me remind you: the president of any country protects the interests of the ruling class of that country. Who is the ruling class in Russia? That's it.
                  1. ABC-schutze
                    ABC-schutze 15 December 2022 22: 24
                    0
                    No... You won't be able to...

                    Firstly, not an "embassy", but an embassy building. By the way, who is the “ambassador” himself? .. And where? .. It seems that “some European country” tried to “represent” some “interests” of the former united Ukraine in Russia ...

                    Secondly, "Minsk" is not only the participation of the Kyiv coup d'etat, with the mediation of Russia and the EU and Germany, but also representatives of the Republics of Novorossiya...

                    So, if "Minsk" is an "argument of recognition", then the Republics of Novorossiya, according to this argument of yours, are also recognized by Russia in the same way ...

                    Thirdly, on the territory of the Republics of Novorossiya, official representatives of the FMS of Russia, quite successfully and not hiding "in the underground", have been OFFICIALLY accepting applications from the population for obtaining Russian citizenship for NINE years already. And the population of these Republics, such, upon consideration, is provided. Officially TH...

                    Fourthly, the "deliveries" of energy carriers, like any other, have nothing to do with the "diplomatic recognition" of the party controlling the transit territory...

                    Examples of this - DARKNESS. From the Taliban to Libya...

                    “Everyone with everyone”, “here and there” conduct some kind of “negotiations” ... Everyone “agrees” on something ... All agreements are violated “from time to time” ... And everyone “speculates” that “establishing contact” and "negotiating" does not mean "diplomatic recognition"...

                    By the way, the Taliban, unlike the Kyiv coups, were received in the Russian Foreign Ministry and in the Kremlin... Havtar, in the Russian Defense Ministry...

                    Behind this, it turns out that for Russia their "status of recognition" is even much higher than the "recognition" of the legitimacy of the team of Kyiv clowns ...
                  2. ABC-schutze
                    ABC-schutze 15 December 2022 22: 29
                    +2
                    By the way ...

                    As far as I know, the "ruling class" in Russia, since Putin came to the presidency, is the state bureaucracy, and not the "oligarchs" ...

                    The latter indirectly "influence", of course, "to the best of their ability." But they don't make the decisions...

                    Otherwise, Russia, long and irreversibly, would have been "Ukraine" ...
                    1. Foundling
                      Foundling 16 December 2022 09: 13
                      0
                      What is a "state bureaucracy"? And why, with the advent of GDP, the oligarchs did not stop pumping money at a quarter of a trillion over the hill? The ruling class is those who have money, i.e. oligarchs, and the "state bureaucracy" is just servants, don't flatter yourself. Or do you seriously think that the financial decisions are made by a galosh?
                      1. ABC-schutze
                        ABC-schutze 16 December 2022 13: 41
                        0
                        "And why, with the advent of GDP, the oligarchs did not stop pumping money at a quarter of a trillion over the hill?"
                        ************************************************** ****************************************
                        The question is easy and the answer is simple...

                        "Swing", because in Russia capitalism. And the election of Putin to the post of President, capitalism in Russia (social, however, according to the Constitution of the state ...) has not canceled and does not cancel ...

                        And the "arrival of GDP", if you strain your memory, was accompanied ALREADY IN THE FIRST DAYS, A PUBLIC WARNING, the so-called. "oligarchs" about their equidistance FROM POWER in the country ...

                        And those who turned out to be "hard of hearing", say Gusinsky, Berezovsky or Khodor, were sent to get acquainted with the "beauties of Siberia" or forced to flee the country ...

                        The rest are doing business. I get extra profit. But they don’t climb into “power” as subjects of “decision makers” ...

                        And the "state bureaucracy", a component of state capitalism. such as, for example, Gazprom or Rosneft ...

                        Where the DIRECT participation of state capital is dominant and therefore dominant is the role of the state in making economic and social decisions, including ...
                      2. Foundling
                        Foundling 16 December 2022 13: 52
                        -1
                        So the real power is with the one who has the money. Power without money is a front. There were no hard of hearing. they just put it on the wrong horse and the beneficiaries who put it on the GDP stupidly divided them. And Abramovich "not climbing into power" is generally a joke. Gazprom and Rosneft are cool, but only half belongs to the state. And so yes. It's just that now the governors have become oligarchs)))
                      3. ABC-schutze
                        ABC-schutze 16 December 2022 14: 17
                        0
                        Let's just not juggle such "amorphous" concepts as some kind of "real" power...

                        There is a legitimate authority that gives the legal right to make government decisions. Abramovich, presumably, "walks" somewhere near the authorities, and is periodically used by the authorities. Incl. and, nge, I exclude that "in the mutual interests" ...

                        But neither Abramovich, nor Deripaska, nor Patriarch Kirill, nor Prigozhin, nor Sechin, nor Miller accept any government decisions...

                        Although, thanks to one or another "proximity to the body", they can express their opinion ... But these are different things ...
                      4. ABC-schutze
                        ABC-schutze 16 December 2022 14: 22
                        0
                        "So the one who has the money has real power. Power without money is a screen."
                        ************************************************** *****************************************
                        Power is not with the one who "has money" ...

                        And for someone who has a legitimate opportunity, if necessary, to "steer" ANY money. Incl. and "oligarchic" money, and not just budgetary ones ...
                      5. Foundling
                        Foundling 16 December 2022 17: 12
                        -1
                        "And for someone who has a legal opportunity, if necessary, to "steer" ANY money. Including "oligarchic" money, and not just budgetary ones .. "

                        A. You are talking about NATO power. These yes. They rule both the oligarchic and state money of Russia. I thought you were talking about our "galoshes". The striped ones easily take away both the oligarchic capitals and the funds of the country.
                      6. ABC-schutze
                        ABC-schutze 16 December 2022 22: 07
                        0
                        If you enter into a discussion, especially on conceptual issues" (such as the "sources" of some "real" power ...), do not consider it a great job for yourself to carefully read the answers of your opponents. At least, for starters, delve into the essence You are quoting...

                        I have written exactly "LEGAL opportunity" ...
                        So, neither the United States, nor the EU, nor NATO have any "legitimate" opportunity to "dispose" Russian sovereign or private assets, without the adoption by the UN Security Council of the corresponding "authorizing" and binding resolution ... They simply have the possibility of ILLEGALLY stealing these Russian sovereign or private assets ... And nothing more ...

                        In contrast to the legitimate Russian government, the state bureaucracy, which is completely within its constitutional powers, and relying on legal decisions of the relevant bodies of legitimate Russian government, has the right to "dispose" of any assets in the interests of the state, which it represents and which it legally manages. ..
                      7. Foundling
                        Foundling 17 December 2022 01: 15
                        -1
                        And how is progress in realizing this right? With the fact of the withdrawal from the country of at least a quarter of a trillion annually and the loss of assets by another half a trillion. You probably don’t find something with “dispose of”. I love slogans and declarations. And it would not be so sad if only I adored. But no..... It's not enough to have the right, you still need to have the courage to use it.
              2. ABC-schutze
                ABC-schutze 15 December 2022 15: 44
                0
                Sorry, typo. Read "Fall 2013"...

                1914, this is for Russia, on a "different topic" ...
            2. alexoff
              alexoff 16 December 2022 00: 39
              0
              It is necessary to develop self-propelled mines simply so that the trace remains like after a hundred-year-old mine. They say - by coincidence, the intruder ran into a mine, which was carried away from Odessa by the current, amazing!
          2. isv000
            isv000 15 December 2022 17: 18
            0
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            What will be squeezed out? Does any of those listed have the same icebreaking fleet as ours? And most importantly, how are they going to overcome the Northern Sea Route?

            It is difficult to build an icebreaking fleet, but it is possible. Squeeze SMP? This is where an assistant is needed. They will gather with all the kagal, declare peace, friendship and chewing gum to the world and declare the Northern Sea Route, inland waterways the property of mankind and, with a blue flag in their hands, soap up to establish a new world order. And this is not even the darkest picture.
  2. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 15 December 2022 10: 10
    +3
    Now the West will pretend that there is no Russia in the Arctic.


    And where is this Arctic and where is this America, which only sees the Arctic, through the Bering Strait (and then the Russian territory).
    The completely "ugly creation of the British Empire" has become obsolete, considering the entire globe to be the territory of the United States.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 15 December 2022 14: 33
      +4
      Quote: tihonmarine
      And where is this Arctic and where is this America, which only sees the Arctic, through the Bering Strait (and then the Russian territory).
      The completely "ugly creation of the British Empire" has become obsolete, considering the entire globe to be the territory of the United States.

      Mattresses cannot survive the fact that most of the pie marked in yellow on the map is in the zone of interests and control of Russia. Canada and Denmark can claim a very small fraction of this pie, but neither the United States, and they will not be able to survive this, so they come to bloody diarrhea. hi
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 December 2022 14: 40
        0
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        but neither the United States, but they will not be able to survive this, so they proceed to bloody diarrhea.

        It is necessary to send the Americans a purgen, but more, so that the "chair" is good.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 15 December 2022 14: 54
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          but neither the United States, but they will not be able to survive this, so they proceed to bloody diarrhea.

          It is necessary to send the Americans a purgen, but more, so that the "chair" is good.
          Purgen and something else to turn off the memory. Here it was inspired from the people -
          Cold and cough
          In severe frost
          Believe me, it's not a problem
          Much scarier
          Diarrhea with sclerosis
          You run and don't remember where...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 15 December 2022 15: 04
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Diarrhea with sclerosis
            You run and don't remember where...

            Yes, it always happens with Americans when something happens not according to their idea:
            Diarrhea was imposed, whether the devil himself brought it,
            In the midnight darkness...
            Not even an hour passed, like the fourth time,
            I run out barefoot to the "white house" ..
      2. isv000
        isv000 15 December 2022 17: 23
        +1
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Canada and Denmark can claim a very small fraction of this pie, but not the USA,

        Trump offered to buy Greenland for a reason!
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 15 December 2022 20: 37
          0
          Quote: isv000
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Canada and Denmark can claim a very small fraction of this pie, but not the USA,

          Trump offered to buy Greenland for a reason!

          But for sure! It was so! winked
  3. opuonmed
    opuonmed 15 December 2022 10: 11
    +5
    Nudk see how the Russian Federation behaves in Ukraine, so they show their teeth and think that they will fail there too
    1. novel66
      novel66 15 December 2022 10: 14
      +7
      And how now to say that it will not work? An example before my eyes
      1. opuonmed
        opuonmed 15 December 2022 10: 20
        +2
        Quote: novel xnumx
        And how now to say that it will not work? An example before my eyes

        I'm afraid that the bases and material support there may be paper, that's what I'm afraid of! I hope everything is good in this regard!
        1. Andy_nsk
          Andy_nsk 15 December 2022 13: 02
          0
          I'm afraid that the bases and material support there may be paper, that's what I'm afraid of

          And the icebreaker fleet is also made of paper?
          I think that the Arctic, at least in the region of the Northern Sea Route, whoever will wring out horseradish from us - their wringer has not grown!
          1. isv000
            isv000 15 December 2022 17: 27
            0
            Quote from Andy_nsk
            I think that the Arctic, at least in the region of the Northern Sea Route, whoever will wring out horseradish from us - their wringer has not grown!

            Like it or not, all paths lead to a big fight. Unless in Ukraine it will turn out to be disheveled, then it may cost, they will calm down, but not for long. There will be strength to save and sharpen a tooth. Bast soap - start over: whatever one may say, all paths lead to a big fight...
    2. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 15 December 2022 10: 18
      +6
      Quote: opuonmed
      Nudk see how the Russian Federation behaves in Ukraine, so they show their teeth and think that they will fail there too

      I also came to the same conclusion. They always do this in similar cases. We don't even need to argue with them. If they climb, then immediately fuck it, it's good to fuck it. The second time, there will be no verification on their part. They check everything by touch, they do not believe our words.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 15 December 2022 11: 13
        +3
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        I also came to the same conclusion. They always do this in similar cases.

        We had to be on our guard when they frequented the Kremlin in flocks and freely walked along the corridors of power ... In EBN times ...
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        We don't even need to argue with them. If they climb, then immediately fuck it, it's good to fuck it.

        According to them, or decide on those who have not entered into controversy with their voters for four terms and ignore their aspirations and interests, asking them to treat this and many other things with understanding, without understanding, BUT !!! stop the main thing is without fuss - they really don’t like sharp questions ...
        I suppose that if after 2024 they climb insolently, it's time to hammer ...
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        They check everything by touch, they do not believe our words.

        And then they probed and probed everything, and today they put their arm up to the elbow ...
        *****
        It's sarcasm if...
        *****
        Kedmi said well about this ... We endure both those and these for too long ... And there are no longer suspicions, but a firm conviction that everyone who is not lazy is rummaging around in our house, but they only threaten them with fingers, inflate cheeks and whistling into a fist ...
        1. SKVichyakow
          SKVichyakow 15 December 2022 18: 52
          -1
          Quote: yuriy55
          Kedmi said well about this ... We endure both those and these for too long ..

          Putin is guided by the American system of checks and balances, which allows him to maintain his power. So no one touches and will not touch.
      2. isv000
        isv000 15 December 2022 17: 29
        +1
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        If they climb, then immediately fuck it, it's good to fuck it. The second time, there will be no verification on their part. They check everything by touch, they do not believe our words.

        It's a pity that Vasily Tsymbal left early ... I thought: but the man did go down in the history of our aviation!
    3. dmi.pris1
      dmi.pris1 15 December 2022 10: 19
      +2
      What, have you already canceled the truth of the Russian language? In Ukraine, but in the fifth point ... Although they are right.
      1. Igool
        Igool 15 December 2022 11: 24
        0
        Quote: dmi.pris
        What, already correctдand cancel the Russian languageдand?


        As far as I can see, yes, they canceled it. laughing
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 December 2022 14: 48
          -1
          Quote: Igool
          As far as I can see, yes, they canceled it.

          On the keyboard D and L side by side, we all make mistakes.
      2. Vasilyevich Pensioner
        Vasilyevich Pensioner 16 December 2022 10: 04
        0
        What, have you already canceled the truth of the Russian language? In Ukraine, and in
        According to the rules, if the conversation is about the edge of something (country), the outskirts - then on. And if we are talking about a country, then c. Someone cannot do something in the country (Ukraine), being inside.
        1. Igool
          Igool 17 December 2022 15: 19
          0
          Quote: Vasilyevich Pensioner
          Someone cannot do something in the country (Ukraine), being inside.


          You are mistaken, on the circle, the center is in the inside of the circle.
          1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
            Vasilyevich Pensioner 17 December 2022 16: 54
            0
            You are wrong. On the circle - it's on top.
            1. Igool
              Igool 18 December 2022 21: 09
              0
              A circle is a flat figure that has no thickness, and therefore has no top and bottom. Based on something - on the circle - the center is in the inside of the circle.
              1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                Vasilyevich Pensioner 19 December 2022 08: 59
                0
                There can be inscriptions, engravings and t/p on the circle, and the center is in the circle, t/k is part of it, regardless of whether there is or is not thickness.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 15 December 2022 10: 12
    +2
    As we can see, no treaties and agreements, forums and conferences will work if it is not beneficial for the United States. Since the West fears only force, the option of militarizing the Arctic region remains, unfortunately, the only possible strategy for ensuring the absolute security of the northern Russian territories.
    . Nothing new, unexpected... it won't be easy for anyone.
  5. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 15 December 2022 10: 13
    +10
    The United States and its satellites wanted to challenge Russia's right to the Arctic

    Well, why only to the Arctic ... the Anglo-Saxons plan to take our Siberia and the Far East with the Far North.
    In 1918, they almost succeeded .... Thank God, the Bolsheviks and the Red Commissars gave the Entente interventionists a good kick in the ass.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 December 2022 14: 51
      0
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      .Thank God the Bolsheviks and the Red Commissars gave the Entente interventionists a good kick in the ass.

      In time, they managed to give Kerensky & Co. a kick in the ass, otherwise they would have snatched off to the Urals, and they grabbed Murmansk and Arkhangelsk.
      Cannibals are still the same.
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 15 December 2022 10: 14
    +5
    Naturally, Russia cannot ignore such actions.

    In this case, any option can be. From strengthening the military group to "goodwill gestures" to transfer part of the territories to "partners".
    ps There is already a precedent. Part of the water area of ​​the Barents Sea Dmitry Aifonych Medvedev in 2010 "free of charge, that is, for nothing" gave Norway.
    1. lubesky
      lubesky 15 December 2022 10: 32
      -2
      Quote: Amateur
      ps There is already a precedent. Part of the water area of ​​the Barents Sea Dmitry Aifonych Medvedev in 2010 "free of charge, that is, for nothing" gave Norway.

      I hope you understand that he did not make ONE decision and that it is those in power who he signed this "demarcation" with? It's stupid to expect anything else from hucksters
    2. isv000
      isv000 15 December 2022 17: 35
      0
      Quote: Amateur
      ps There is already a precedent. Part of the water area of ​​the Barents Sea Dmitry Aifonych Medvedev in 2010 "free of charge, that is, for nothing" gave Norway.

      After the Victory, this agreement can be shoved down the drain. At one time, Stalin, they say, solved the issue with the Arctic sector simply: he drew two lines from the pole, along the western and eastern extreme points of the USSR state border. And point! Nobody farted...
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 15 December 2022 17: 40
        0
        At the time, Stalin

        And in our time, who will conduct the lines? And what color. And then half of the world is already crossed out in red.
  7. Essex62
    Essex62 15 December 2022 10: 15
    +1
    It is necessary to strengthen the grouping, but by what means. From the suburban meat grinder, they will not be allowed to jump out by political means, and like a vacuum cleaner, it will draw in more and more new resources.
    1. Sid2014
      Sid2014 15 December 2022 10: 56
      0
      Tell me then why the leadership of our country does not understand this? What are the statements, We did not understand the mood of the people of Donbass, and we should have acted earlier. Soon Russia will be pro-t., and then they will say. "We didn't understand anything or We didn't think, or We didn't want to start..."
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 15 December 2022 18: 15
        0
        Of course they didn’t want to, but the electorate demanded. And then the godfather promised to knock off Zelya and strangle the top, focused on pin to owls and outright Bandera, for preferences, of course. You just need to run beautifully to Kueva and Crimea2 will raise the rating to heaven. And the godfather pind about sy times and twisted themselves, and Zelya got into a fight. Well, then you know 9 months of Verdun. Trench warfare and contract soldiers who fled from the army and first-line reservists from the country. They didn’t arrange a dirty trick for us from Central Asia, then there would definitely be no one to cover the Arctic. Not to fat, to be, I would live. (Folk proverb)
      2. isv000
        isv000 15 December 2022 19: 58
        0
        Quote: Sid2014
        Tell me then why the leadership of our country does not understand this? What are the statements, We did not understand the mood of the people of Donbass, and we should have acted earlier. Soon Russia will be pro-t., and then they will say. "We didn't understand anything or We didn't think, or We didn't want to start..."

        After today's bloody morning in Donbass, if there is no adequate response at night / in the morning, so that they would penetrate and crap one's pants on the other side, it will be difficult for me to understand why a military commissar is transported on trains, there is electricity and communications! ..
  8. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 15 December 2022 10: 16
    -3
    The length of the Arctic coast of Russia is 22,6 thousand kilometers (TOTALLY SOMETHING !!!) and for the most part it is an absolutely uninhabited land - no military bases, no border guards, NOTHING !!! Sail whoever you want, do what you can ... Meanwhile, the polar ice is melting, technology is developing, the USA and Canada are building BATTLE icebreakers, the largest landing base is developing in Alaska, and we are complacency ... No, well, really, well, who to us in the tundra will climb, who really needs it? We do not step on a rake, we DANCE on them!!!
    1. vovochkarzhevsky
      vovochkarzhevsky 15 December 2022 10: 41
      +7
      Alexandra Land Island. The paved runway is extended up to 3500 m.
      1. Leader_Barmaleev
        Leader_Barmaleev 15 December 2022 10: 52
        -5
        And what do you mean by that? Yes, this is a big military base in the European part of Russia. Yes, it covers St. Petersburg and Moscow, where Russia does not end. And try to find something like that east of this base and all the way to the Bering Strait. There should be AT LEAST one such bases for every thousand kilometers of the border. Well, where is this 21 base? With a rhyme to the word "where" do not bother, I myself know that it is not in Karaganda.
        1. vovochkarzhevsky
          vovochkarzhevsky 15 December 2022 11: 08
          +1
          And who said that this airfield is the only one in the north? I just gave a sample of the northernmost airfield, which is 10 degrees from the pole. In many other cases, there is no need to build permanent airfields on permafrost if modern aviation has more than enough range.
          And do not invent combat icebreakers, these are all the same icebreakers, just the customer is the military department.
          1. Leader_Barmaleev
            Leader_Barmaleev 15 December 2022 11: 15
            -3
            Of course, of course, there is no need to build airfields, despite the fact that the Tu-95 needs to fly DAY LONG along the northern coast in one direction, and the icebreakers are COURSE civilian, only by military order, and the warehouses are full of caps for tossing ... With such friends like you do not need enemies ...
            1. vovochkarzhevsky
              vovochkarzhevsky 15 December 2022 11: 23
              0
              In general, the Tu-95 has a cruising speed of 710 km / h, so you obviously got excited with the day. Cool down. yes
              1. Leader_Barmaleev
                Leader_Barmaleev 15 December 2022 11: 30
                -4
                Firstly - thanks for the cons, and secondly - advise your wife to cool down, and please, either answer me on the merits or keep quiet, otherwise it’s somehow even insulting for you - give some kind of kindergarten arguments. I somehow got used to the fact that adults and smart people communicate here. All the best.
                1. vovochkarzhevsky
                  vovochkarzhevsky 15 December 2022 12: 09
                  -1
                  You still need to chill. I gave examples, and you have a flight of fancy. lol
                  1. Leader_Barmaleev
                    Leader_Barmaleev 15 December 2022 12: 27
                    -2
                    Child, it is better not to give such "examples" ...

                    This is EVERYTHING that we have in the Arctic - and whom do you want to scare THIS?
                    1. vovochkarzhevsky
                      vovochkarzhevsky 15 December 2022 12: 45
                      -1
                      How old are you, "grown man"? lol I hope it's enough to strain your brains and answer the question, why more? What kind of aircraft and against what threats do you plan to deploy there?
                      By the way, did you take into account the helipads?
                      And yes, about combat icebreakers. Here in St. Petersburg, an ice-class patrol ship is being completed. What about this case with the adversary, give examples?
                      1. Maxim G
                        Maxim G 15 December 2022 13: 05
                        -1
                        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
                        And yes, about combat icebreakers. Here in St. Petersburg, an ice-class patrol ship is being completed. What about this case with the adversary, give examples?



                        French Astrolabe.
                      2. vovochkarzhevsky
                        vovochkarzhevsky 15 December 2022 13: 28
                        0
                        No, it doesn't roll. No. This is an ordinary civilian ice-class vessel in the fleet. Yes, and 80 cm of ice opposite 1,7 m is so-so.
                        Otherwise ... in short, compare with project 23550.
                        https://topwar.ru/188470-preimuschestva-universalnosti-potencial-patrulnyh-korablej-proekta-23550-arktika-ermak.html
                      3. Maxim G
                        Maxim G 15 December 2022 16: 08
                        -1
                        Apparently, the French are satisfied with such characteristics.
                      4. vovochkarzhevsky
                        vovochkarzhevsky 15 December 2022 16: 20
                        -1
                        And here are the characteristics, for the French it is not a warship at all. It's something similar to this.
                        https://topwar.ru/206845-postroennyj-v-interesah-minoborony-ledokol-proekta-21180m-evpatij-kolovrat-vyshel-na-hodovye-ispytanija.html
                      5. Maxim G
                        Maxim G 15 December 2022 18: 03
                        -1
                        As for the Yermak, it is not entirely clear why the icebreaker needs such weapons and, at the same time, portable air defense systems.
                    2. Andy_nsk
                      Andy_nsk 15 December 2022 13: 15
                      +1
                      This is EVERYTHING that we have in the Arctic - and whom do you want to scare THIS?

                      Why scare? and what, you want the bases to be built every ten kilometers? With machine gun nests and artillery? This is the far north and Siberia (by the way, I am a Siberian and I visit the north of Siberia in oil and gas regions). Do you think the overseas troops will land there or send their AUGs there? The AUG will not go further than Novaya Zemlya, and if they land in the far north, then you won’t have to fight in bayonet attacks - wait a couple of days, and you can go for captured weapons negative
  9. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 December 2022 10: 17
    -5
    The current one can easily share with his partners. Not the first time!
  10. Nikolay310
    Nikolay310 15 December 2022 10: 19
    +3
    it’s logical ... they beat the weak ... and the Russian Federation this year was strong only in drawing red lines, Medvedev’s formidable tweets and “goodwill gestures” ...
  11. Horn
    Horn 15 December 2022 10: 22
    +2
    Well, they'll take it. What will Russia resist? "Analogues"? Single copies of exhibition samples of weapons? In which half of the components are from old stocks left over from the USSR (when only galoshes were produced, according to our commander in chief), and the second half are imported spare parts that are nowhere else to get?
    What the current political and military leadership of Russia is good at is puffing out cheeks and stealing. Steal, as if not in yourself.
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 December 2022 10: 24
    +3
    The United States plans to continue to operate in the Arctic without Russia... The West will pretend that there is no Russia in the Arctic.
    The tactic is well-known, but will it work in this case? What exactly does the United States have in the Arctic besides "allies", on whom they now want to rely? Russia has an icebreaker fleet, NSR, bases that are expanding and armed with new weapons, and today there is certainly no desire to give this region to anyone for plunder, and even more so within its borders.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 15 December 2022 10: 37
      -1
      Do not watch "Military Acceptance" at night, it is harmful to the nervous system when confronted with reality
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 15 December 2022 10: 44
        +2
        And where does the "military acceptance"? In response, I can advise you not to pray for the United States at night, it will become easier to live.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 15 December 2022 10: 59
          +3
          Quote: rotmistr60
          do not pray for the night on the united states

          That's not what I was going to wassat You just need to be closer to reality, and not
          "bases that are expanding and armed with new weapons and today there is certainly no desire to give this region to someone for plunder"

          Above, someone mentioned Medvedev and the shelf in the Norwegian Sea, we can also recall the WTO and "gestures of good will." Unfortunately, neither you nor I will decide how much we cost
  13. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 15 December 2022 10: 28
    +1
    Now the West will pretend that there is no Russia in the Arctic. It's against common sense

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  15. oleg-nekrasov-19
    oleg-nekrasov-19 15 December 2022 10: 32
    0
    Quote: oleg-nekrasov-19
    Now the West will pretend that there is no Russia in the Arctic.

    we must pretend that there is no USA in North America
    1. Igor_Lvovich
      Igor_Lvovich 15 December 2022 10: 40
      0
      There is now the Mexican-Canadian Strait.
  16. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 December 2022 10: 33
    +2
    If we do not defend our interests in Ukraine, the Arctic has only two options, or it will melt or freeze right up to Washington, and maybe even further south. lol
  17. usm5
    usm5 15 December 2022 10: 34
    -8
    A clash with the US is inevitable. Someone has to be defeated - either the US or Russia. In a retaliatory nuclear strike, Russia will lose for sure.
    1. Tatyana Pershina
      Tatyana Pershina 15 December 2022 10: 51
      +2
      Offering a preemptive strike? Who to start with? With "kids" (Scandinavians) or right across the country behind a big puddle?
      1. usm5
        usm5 15 December 2022 20: 14
        0
        It seems that there is no other way out. "Morder" will collapse, and immediately "the spell will fall from the eyes" of his allies. True, there is a possibility that we ourselves will go to heaven, but if you are a believer, then why be afraid.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 15 December 2022 10: 52
      0
      Quote from usm5
      in a retaliatory nuclear strike, Russia will lose for sure.

      Did grandma Vanga tell you?
    3. bayard
      bayard 15 December 2022 12: 32
      0
      Quote from usm5
      In a retaliatory nuclear strike, Russia will lose for sure.

      So the blow must be preemptive.
  18. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 15 December 2022 10: 41
    -1
    The impudent actions of the English colony could have been avoided on the territory of the North Pole by a hard ramming of the icebreaker fleet.
  19. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 15 December 2022 10: 49
    +1
    Are we surprised by America's actions? And what is it (question to our military leadership)? And let's bring even more indistinctness and readiness for compromises to the ongoing operation in Ukraine, show even more mercy and gestures of goodwill, save their communications and infrastructure, do not touch their Internet, bridges and roads, bomb carefully, on schedule, on weekends, take care of THEIR civilian population, but continue not to take care of YOUR civilian population, surrender Russian cities without a fight and give Russian citizens to be devoured by the Nazis ... then the States will not even think at all: they will simply come to the Arctic (and not only!) how to home, give a stump in the ass - and drive Russia somewhere between the Urals and the Yenisei.

    To prevent this from happening, you must not just show your teeth, but crush the Nazi trash with these teeth. Pound so that they could not come to their senses. So that no one around has any doubts that Russia cannot be touched, that it is mortally dangerous for oneself!

    Or do you think that the States do not carefully observe how strong (or weak) Russia is, how powerfully and unquestioningly it behaves in a military conflict? How they observe ... and draw conclusions! And since such a topic arose again, and very loudly, it means that they liked these conclusions!
  20. mongolian9999
    mongolian9999 15 December 2022 11: 05
    +1
    All right. The tolerant will be tolerated. Until we show our teeth. It would be time for the air defense system already captured in Ukraine to drop the reconnaissance aircraft. Even so.
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 15 December 2022 11: 18
    0
    Interesting idea The Antarctic Council will abolish or subjugate navigation to the United States. Maybe he will command the ice
  22. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 December 2022 11: 25
    0
    If we "merge" the situation at 404, then there will be even more doubts about our claims.
  23. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 15 December 2022 11: 27
    -2
    The United States and its satellites wanted to challenge Russia's right to the Arctic
    The phrase "Ilya Polonsky" will soon become a household name, like "English scientists". It would seem a tiny article, but how much stupidity can fit in it. What kind of right to the Arctic did the United States want to dispute with Russia? Does he understand what he writes? Does this person have an elementary "legal understanding of the essence of law"? It looks like he didn't even think about it.
    This is contrary to common sense, but it is true, and the same American politicians have long been developing a political and legal justification for their claims to the Arctic, which supposedly should not belong to Russia, but to the "international community" (read - the same USA).
    What is it about? Is there even a grain of "common sense" here? Why should the Arctic belong only to Russia?
    As we see
    And their name is Legion.
    for XNUMX% security
    Hmm. What is there to trifle? I would write right away - for 146% security.
  24. Glagol1
    Glagol1 15 December 2022 11: 27
    +1
    2 powerful bases have already been built recently. Very close to the pole, it's great! The Northern Fleet remains vulnerable, all the bases are near Norway, the flight time is nothing at all. As the SVO showed in the 404th, air defense does not guarantee anything.
  25. digger
    digger 15 December 2022 11: 46
    +1
    For now, the United States can only live in its illusory world - either canceling or ignoring Russia in the Arctic. There are no teeth and no opportunities. They can try to sheathe Arly Burke with fur and send it .... but it will be a failure and a shame ..... the army is not adapted for operations in the Arctic ... and there is no need here about what is adapted - NO it is not adapted. There are no reference points / bases. There are no icebreakers. Russian paratroopers recently set a record - landing in the Arctic from 10 km at -50 degrees.



  26. sanik2020
    sanik2020 15 December 2022 12: 23
    0
    Everyone knows how to argue, let them try to come to the Arctic on abrams, but for now they sit like mice under a broom.
  27. old_pferd
    old_pferd 15 December 2022 14: 06
    0
    Are we talking about the Arctic Council again? This is a forum, a platform for discussion, has no rights and opportunities. Horror stories about the Arctic are starting to get boring.
  28. km-21
    km-21 16 December 2022 08: 32
    -1
    The United States and its satellites wanted to challenge Russia's right to the Arctic

    There is no doubt that they will challenge it, and quite successfully, if we continue to endure mockery of our red lines and refuse to use our nuclear weapons. We have not been allowed into Svalbard for a long time. On the agenda is the extraction of Wrangel Island. The process is slowly going on. And we smile and wave...
  29. Arkady007
    Arkady007 16 December 2022 09: 40
    +2
    Let them try to squeeze Russia along our coast. It doesn't even work theoretically.
  30. Egeny
    Egeny 16 December 2022 09: 51
    0
    the response to the US Arctic policy should be a comprehensive strengthening of the power of the Russian state

    And who is against.
  31. Egeny
    Egeny 16 December 2022 09: 59
    0
    Quote: old_pferd
    Arctic Council

    I support. The only thing that advice can scare is the Memorandum of Understanding and Cooperation.
    There are only "observers" in the council.
  32. Vladimir Sedov
    Vladimir Sedov 16 December 2022 16: 00
    0
    Recently, a study was published on the number of icebreakers in the countries of the Arctic Council. So, all of them together have fewer icebreakers at times than Russia. And this is the main tool in the development of the Arctic. If we talk about the United States, they have 5 icebreakers and not a single nuclear one. While in Russia, over 40 icebreakers. That says it all.
  33. Andrey A
    Andrey A 16 December 2022 18: 52
    0
    In 1926, the USSR, without bothering, simply declared the territory of the USSR adjacent to our northern borders (up to and including the North Pole). Not an economic zone, not territorial waters, but the territory of the USSR with the corresponding status ... It was only later that we followed the lead of the West, gradually losing ground, yielding something to the Norwegians, now we are trying to justify our rights to the shelf, which no one is in a hurry to recognize. ... The USSR did not bother and simply declared the Soviet sector of the Arctic its national territory, and, at the same time, the USSR did not have nuclear weapons and delivery vehicles, the USSR in 1926 was in an extremely vulnerable, from an economic point of view, position, country, practically did not have modern weapons. Moral: we need to return to the position of the USSR. The West does not want to reckon with Russia in the Arctic, we should not reckon with the West in the Arctic. “The exact border of the Arctic has not been determined. Initially, the sectoral approach dominated, according to which the Arctic was divided between adjacent circumpolar states, with the north pole being the border of all interested states. In 1909, Canada declared sovereignty over all territories between the north pole and its northern coast [5]. In May 1925, Canada officially secured its right to its Arctic sector[6]. By the Decree of the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR of April 15, 1926[7], the entire territory from the North Pole to the mainland of the USSR, bounded by meridians 32 ° 4'35 "East longitude and 168°49'30" west longitude, was declared the territory of the USSR[8]." https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_regime_of the Arctic