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American expert on whether Ukrainian UAV strikes could spur Russia into a nuclear response

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American expert on whether Ukrainian UAV strikes could spur Russia into a nuclear response

Head of the Department of Maritime Strategy J.K. Wylie at the US Naval War College, Dr. James Holmes, in a recent article for 19fortyfive, discusses whether Ukrainian drone strikes could spur Russia into a nuclear response.


According to the expert, such a scenario is unlikely. However, it is difficult to say with complete certainty that this will not happen.

Russia is a mystery shrouded in mystery within a mystery

Holmes writes.

At the same time, the author of the article believes that, as he put it, President Putin's "gloomy statements" about nuclear war are rather aimed at deterring the West from direct participation in the conflict.

In general, according to Holmes, the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine looks extremely doubtful, if we talk about the likely strategy of Russia.

The wise sovereign and the field commander are doing everything possible to avoid the ruin of the lands they want to make their own.

- explains the expert.

At the same time, according to the author of the article, it is not clear whether Vladimir Putin is still pursuing "unlimited" strategic goals in relation to Ukraine. That is, whether he intends to overthrow the Kiev government and "forcibly denazify" the country.

Judging by the lackluster results this year, Russian weapons appear to be incapable of hitting targets of this magnitude.

Holmes writes.

At the same time, the expert is sure that the Kremlin wants to maintain its influence in the territories that they consider to be Russian. Consequently, in the author's opinion, the use of nuclear weapons near the above-mentioned areas is unlikely to keep them safe and sound for further use as subjects of the Russian Federation.

Finally, Holmes recalled the "weather" factor. Strong and constantly changing winds can expose both Russia itself and Belarus, neighboring Ukraine, to radioactive contamination after a nuclear explosion.
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  1. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 13 December 2022 12: 25
    -7
    No, there will be no nuclear response. Praise be to the Almighty that the nuclear briefcase on which the fate of the entire planet depends is in the hands of an intelligent, self-possessed and responsible person. drinks good
    1. User_neydobniu
      User_neydobniu 13 December 2022 12: 26
      0
      And will never be applied, amen ...
    2. credo
      credo 13 December 2022 12: 53
      +4
      The ability to lie well and convincingly is a hallmark of the Anglo-Saxons and this American "expert" is from the same opera.

      The Anglo-Saxons, in their centuries-old history full of bloody wars, the destruction of states and their populations, have never disdained anything to achieve their goals, so this article is just a distraction to lull the vigilance of the Russian political elite and the population of Russia.

      If a "dirty" bomb is made on the former territory of the Ukrainian SSR, then the local ghouls will definitely use it, and the Anglo-Saxons, with their daily reminders of Russia's use of a nuclear response, only prepare the world's population to accuse Russia of using such a bomb in Ukraine in the future.
    3. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 13 December 2022 13: 11
      +3
      Quote from BattleToads
      Praise be to the Almighty that the nuclear briefcase on which the fate of the entire planet depends is in the hands of an intelligent, self-possessed and responsible person.

      Exactly! And most importantly, an honest person who never lies.))))
      1. Guran33 Sergey
        Guran33 Sergey 15 December 2022 10: 33
        -1
        Where have you met a public (especially a politician) person who does not lie (except for school activists, there are sometimes instances)?
    4. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 13 December 2022 13: 13
      +2
      Quote from BattleToads
      No, there will be no nuclear response

      There was something about the Preemptive Strike, but then probably belay in England
      1. marchcat
        marchcat 13 December 2022 13: 16
        +1
        The Americans are already itching in one place, about the use of nuclear weapons by Russia. Don't wake up famously, it will be quiet...
    5. lis-ik
      lis-ik 13 December 2022 13: 27
      +2
      Quote from BattleToads
      on which the fate of the entire planet depends is in the hands of an intelligent, self-possessed and responsible person

      Great sarcasm.
  2. Bingo
    Bingo 13 December 2022 12: 28
    +2
    There are targets that are never touched in a nuclear state, since a threat of any level can provoke a response. Symmetric. Diego Garcia, Guam and Cheyenne in the USA, Faslane in Britain, Brest in France and... Engels in Russia.
    The threat to carriers of nuclear weapons is spelled out in the strategy for the use of nuclear weapons as a challenge to which it is possible and necessary to respond with nuclear weapons.
    For example, Russia, in accordance with Article 19 of Presidential Decree No. 02.06.2020 of June 355, XNUMX, “On the Fundamentals of the State Policy of the Russian Federation in the Field of Nuclear Deterrence,” can glaze parts of Ukraine that interfere with it. and that's the expected response, that's the response that the consultants who helped prepare the strike are also expecting.
  3. Mihail0221
    Mihail0221 13 December 2022 12: 30
    -2
    At the same time, the expert is sure that the Kremlin wants to maintain its influence in the territories that they consider to be Russian. Consequently, in the author's opinion, the use of nuclear weapons near the above-mentioned areas is unlikely to keep them safe and sound for further use as subjects of the Russian Federation.

    Yes, of course, I don’t want to hit the Russian land. But if Ukraine is used as a gateway for NATO to penetrate Russian territory, there will be no other choice. But ... You need to make it clear to the population and the leadership of Western countries that if anything ... We will treat everyone ... We will not offend anyone ...
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 13 December 2022 12: 45
      -2
      Quote: Michael0221
      Let's treat everyone...

      And above all small-shaven
    2. Alexey Lantukh
      Alexey Lantukh 13 December 2022 13: 50
      0
      Well, now the leadership of Russia says one thing, but this does not mean that in six months they will say something else, since the situation may change. Let's say Poland deploys 200 of its PMCs in Ukraine, and what should we do? Russia will find itself in a hopeless dead end with the prospect of war for several years. The Russian economy will not survive this. Yes, and now we have a positional impasse, but there is hope for reserves. Even now, a nuclear stratospheric strike over Kiev, which gives a powerful electromagnetic impulse, does not destroy anything on earth and does not infect the earth, but disables many electrical and radio facilities and, with a subsequent air raid, would have a good effect.
  4. Uprun
    Uprun 13 December 2022 12: 32
    0
    From the category of dumb, even dumber, we did not shoot this film.
  5. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 13 December 2022 12: 34
    +2
    The wise sovereign and the field commander are doing everything possible to avoid the ruin of the lands they want to make their own, the expert explains.
    And Russia, why ruin, from nuclear bombing?
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 13 December 2022 12: 54
      0
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      And Russia, why ruin, from nuclear bombing?

      We have no reason to. But there is a catch in this phrase: that they want to make their own And which do not want??? For example, those that the Poles want to make their own???
      And in general, Holmes seems to be, but with the deductive method, tension laughing
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 December 2022 12: 34
    +4
    Could Ukrainian UAV strikes spur Russia into a nuclear response?
    How they still want Russia to strike such a blow, although they regretfully admit that this is unlikely. Why bring this topic up again? The tension around Ukraine, which is growing every day, must excite the Western layman and give him an understanding that he is not in vain forking up in the interests of a country that he had no idea about before.
    1. Bingo
      Bingo 13 December 2022 12: 37
      +1
      It's just that these strikes are a provocation of the Western masters against Russia precisely with the aim of forcing the Russian Federation to use nuclear weapons in full accordance with the regulatory documents of the Russian Federation. Provocation. Like the article itself of this American alcohol
    2. Mihail0221
      Mihail0221 13 December 2022 12: 47
      -2
      The tension around Ukraine, which is growing every day, must excite the Western layman and give him an understanding that he is not in vain forking up in the interests of a country that he had no idea about before.
      That's right. They give meaning so that the average Westerner endures all the inconvenience without asking too many questions.
  7. Seryoga64
    Seryoga64 13 December 2022 12: 35
    0
    Not one smart person will not use nuclear weapons near their borders. This is suicide, and GDP is by no means suicidal.
    Yes, and it would be against whom to use ...
  8. KCA
    KCA 13 December 2022 12: 37
    +1
    Hospidya, Russia even used the "Dagger" three times in total, "Zircon" never, but here it’s direct nuclear weapons, and any TNW charge costs more than a rocket with hexogen, buildings in Kiev will rather fly on rubble than shells with TNW from Msta will fly where
  9. Alexander Rasmukhambetov
    Alexander Rasmukhambetov 13 December 2022 12: 37
    -2
    Until we start doing something similar to what they are doing in Ukraine, but on their territory, everything will continue like this or we won’t hit their vassals with an atomic bomb, like England. They understood we have a lot of red pencils, we can shade all of Russia. Until they get specifically in the face, they won’t stop, the main thing is to find a person who will be the first to hit this face, but so far, alas, he is not in the Kremlin, we are waiting.
  10. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 13 December 2022 12: 37
    -2
    Russia is a mystery shrouded in mystery within a mystery

    Holmes writes.


    If they ask, then why not. There are no mysteries here.
  11. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 13 December 2022 12: 38
    -2
    It is clear that the United States really wants to provoke Russia into using tactical nuclear weapons.
    Then their hands will be untied for any action up to NATO declaring war on Russia and their direct invasion.
    But Russia has means of great power, which it does not understand why it has not yet used.
    These are FAB and OFAB of high power.
    In general, Russia did not have much time left to defeat Ukraine.
    It is Ukraine, not the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Maximum six months.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 13 December 2022 12: 49
      +2
      And how are their hands tied without this, can you tell me?
      1. Vashek
        Vashek 13 December 2022 13: 10
        +1
        How than. air defense. You can't risk strategic vehicles. There are so few of them.
      2. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 13 December 2022 15: 08
        0
        Quote: Sancho_SP
        And how are their hands tied without this, can you tell me?

        You have already been answered. I will add that not the whole world supports the United States, and if this happens, then do not go to the fortune teller mattress covers and the rest will be bent.
        And it will go on increasing, they will be expelled from the UN members as the USSR was expelled from the League of Nations, and they will accept it at the UN session, and not at the Security Council.
        And since we are not members of the UN, we cannot be in the Security Council either.
        Our accreditation will simply be canceled and they will simply not be allowed into the UN building.
        And they will arrange a blockade and so on. They will drag a resolution demanding to deprive Russia of Ya. O.
        Such statements have already been made.
        So the United States really needs Russia to use tactical nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine, and we are constantly being provoked to do this, especially since this will not affect their territory.
        And they are preparing the Western public opinion that Russia wants to use such weapons. Constant stuffing in their media.
        That's who does not need it is Russia.
        1. Denis812
          Denis812 13 December 2022 18: 34
          +2
          The League of Nations as well as the current UN are not organizations that can ensure peace. The reason is simple - the unwillingness of Western countries to work according to the rule of law and their desire to impose their will on everyone.
          In this scenario, neither the UN nor any other organization will survive.
          If Russia leaves the UN, it will be its collapse.
          1. Ulan.1812
            Ulan.1812 13 December 2022 18: 42
            0
            Quote: Denis812
            The League of Nations as well as the current UN are not organizations that can ensure peace. The reason is simple - the unwillingness of Western countries to work according to the rule of law and their desire to impose their will on everyone.
            In this scenario, neither the UN nor any other organization will survive.
            If Russia leaves the UN, it will be its collapse.

            This is true. But the UN, and so confident gait goes to collapse. And the Americans, it seems, are trying to achieve this in order to replace the UN with an organization completely controlled by them. No wonder they stirred up the Congress of Democracies and decide for themselves who to invite there.
            1. Denis812
              Denis812 13 December 2022 18: 54
              +2
              Well, for God's sake. To us that the League of Nations, that the UN - is no longer necessary. The very structure of the world is cracking. We need China and a couple more countries at hand. Then let's hold out.
              1. Ulan.1812
                Ulan.1812 13 December 2022 19: 14
                0
                Quote: Denis812
                Well, for God's sake. To us that the League of Nations, that the UN - is no longer necessary. The very structure of the world is cracking. We need China and a couple more countries at hand. Then let's hold out.

                In principle, I also think so that the UN has outlived itself.
                All attempts by Russia to revive it ended in nothing.
    2. Mihail0221
      Mihail0221 13 December 2022 12: 52
      -1
      In general, Russia did not have much time left to defeat Ukraine.
      It is Ukraine, not the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Maximum six months

      What will change in six months? hi
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 13 December 2022 15: 09
        0
        Quote: Michael0221
        In general, Russia did not have much time left to defeat Ukraine.
        It is Ukraine, not the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Maximum six months

        What will change in six months? hi

        I won’t share, you are still small if you don’t understand what the article says. Read over again.
  12. Boniface
    Boniface 13 December 2022 12: 41
    0
    since when did experts begin to dictate certain decisions in the war? what kind of game? Let him stay with his opinion!
  13. staer-62
    staer-62 13 December 2022 12: 44
    -4
    Any flight of enemy missiles, drones on the territory of Russia should immediately activate a retaliatory nuclear strike, because we do not know what kind of charge the missile carries. The recent attack on airfields with strategists left without a nuclear response is the crime of President Putin, who brought the country to the brink of destruction.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 13 December 2022 12: 47
      -2
      Here the problem is different - apparently, the projectile was simply not detected in advance.
      Ballistic missiles are not aimed at Urkaina, and this is not necessary. Hence, it is impossible to respond promptly to this blow, because you must either hit the United States immediately, or have a plan for using tactical weapons at the front.
  14. Jsem_CZEKO68
    Jsem_CZEKO68 13 December 2022 12: 44
    +1
    "Expert" asi neumí číst..., za jakých okolností Rusko použije jaderné zbraně! Na zapadě je asi expert každý..
    1. Konstantin Shevchenko
      Konstantin Shevchenko 13 December 2022 13: 02
      +1
      Interesting, how did you find the Russian chat?
      1. Jsem_CZEKO68
        Jsem_CZEKO68 13 December 2022 15: 19
        +1
        Při jedné diskuzí o akci na Ukrajině na našich cz webech jsem viděl odkaz na váš chat zde! Pak jsem našel ještě jeden, kde je "topwar.ru" v českém jazyce. Takže si můžu vybrat, buď v Ruštině, nebo v Češtině, proto mám potom problém vám můj článek překládat do Ruštiny. Jelikož mě vše kolem akce na Ukrajině zajímá, proto chci vědět a znát názory obyčejných občanů Ruska. Musím říct, že nejsem zklamán, chodím sem velmi rád pro vysokou úroveň článků i příspěvků do diskuse. Často jsou i humorné, což mám rád. Taky oceňuji, že mě bylo umožněno jako občanovi z "nepřátelské" země NATO přispívat zde do diskuze společně s vámi, což je pro mě důkaz vysokého stupně demokracie a vážím si toho.
        1. Konstantin Shevchenko
          Konstantin Shevchenko 13 December 2022 15: 38
          +1
          I was more surprised that you think like Russians. Apparently reading our chats was not in vain;^)
          1. Jsem_CZEKO68
            Jsem_CZEKO68 13 December 2022 21: 51
            +1
            No thought si, že vy Rusové máte ještě zdravý rozum, jste daleko moudřejší než zapad! Ano, mám velmi blízko k vašim názorům, protože to tak cítím, že právo je na vaší straně.
        2. Des
          Des 15 December 2022 10: 16
          +1
          translation: "During one discussion of the event in Ukraine on our cz sites, I saw a link to your chat here! Then I found another one where it was "topwar.ru" in Czech. So I can choose either in Russian , or in Czech, so I have problems translating my article into Russian.Because I am interested in everything related to the actions in Ukraine, that is why I want to know and get the opinions of ordinary Russian citizens.I must say that I am not disappointed, i come here very much because of the high level of the articles and contribution to the discussion.they are often full of humor which i like.i also appreciate that i, as a citizen of an "enemy" NATO country, was allowed to contribute to the discussion here with you, which for me is proof of a high degree of democracy, and I appreciate it." Thank you.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 13 December 2022 12: 45
    +3
    It is interesting how Western logic is built and adjusted to one conclusion. Russia must still launch a nuclear strike on Ukraine. (This will untie the hands of the West and justify any of its steps, cutting off the heads of prisoners, shooting civilians, shelling nuclear power plants) provocations, striking one of the elements of the nuclear triad with combat UAVs. This alone is enough for retaliatory steps. Honestly, I would leave Ukraine for this, without electricity for many years
    1. Mihail0221
      Mihail0221 13 December 2022 13: 02
      -1
      .Honestly, I would leave Ukraine for this, without electricity for many years
      Well, you're not the Supreme. And he is a liberal, as he has repeatedly stated publicly. Regrets 404th. Wretched. Calls us one people. (here I agree with him about the people). And so it is necessary to beat hohlov well, and then we will hug and kiss.
      1. Vladimir80
        Vladimir80 13 December 2022 13: 10
        +1
        It seems to me that the tougher our response would be, the more lives could be saved in the end. See who the best friends of the Japanese are - the United States, which dropped 2 atomic bombs on them and destroyed at one moment under 100.000 civilians. Paradox?!
  16. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 13 December 2022 12: 45
    -1
    Atomic bombs should be used not in response, but in anticipation. Reaction in this matter is a guarantee of the destruction of the country (together with the rest of the world or without - the question is not essential).
  17. I dare to_notice_
    I dare to_notice_ 13 December 2022 12: 46
    0
    Another "weakly" provokes.
    When... More precisely, if the decision is made, you all won't even notice!
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    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 13 December 2022 12: 53
      -3
      Are the citizens of the Russian Federation ready for the consequences of such an application?

      ready in Moscow, at work handed out reminders that you need to go to the nearest metro station (sarcasm)
      1. Mihail0221
        Mihail0221 13 December 2022 13: 05
        -1
        ready in Moscow, at work handed out reminders that you need to go to the nearest metro station (sarcasm)

        Not in Moscow. They also distributed memos on civil defense at work. The situation is gradually becoming more complicated, time is not playing on us.
        1. Ulan.1812
          Ulan.1812 13 December 2022 15: 14
          0
          Quote: Michael0221
          ready in Moscow, at work handed out reminders that you need to go to the nearest metro station (sarcasm)

          Not in Moscow. They also distributed memos on civil defense at work. The situation is gradually becoming more complicated, time is not playing on us.

          Really? And why did you give me a minus for this and ask questions about this?
    2. vadimtt
      vadimtt 13 December 2022 14: 06
      0
      Judging by the state of RosAtom and specialized institutions, everything is normal there. The problem is the flexibility of the red lines.
  19. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 13 December 2022 12: 55
    +1
    Quote: Ulan.1812
    It is clear that the United States really wants to provoke Russia into using tactical nuclear weapons.
    Then their hands will be untied for any action up to NATO declaring war on Russia and their direct invasion.
    But Russia has means of great power, which it does not understand why it has not yet used.
    These are FAB and OFAB of high power.
    In general, Russia did not have much time left to defeat Ukraine.
    It is Ukraine, not the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Maximum six months.


    Russia will not smash Ukraine, only the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be liquidated, no options drinks after the destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the issue of ownership of certain territories will be decided, but Russia will not wage war with the people of Ukraine. This is the same case when time works for Russia good
    1. Ulan.1812
      Ulan.1812 13 December 2022 15: 19
      +1
      Quote from BattleToads
      Quote: Ulan.1812
      It is clear that the United States really wants to provoke Russia into using tactical nuclear weapons.
      Then their hands will be untied for any action up to NATO declaring war on Russia and their direct invasion.
      But Russia has means of great power, which it does not understand why it has not yet used.
      These are FAB and OFAB of high power.
      In general, Russia did not have much time left to defeat Ukraine.
      It is Ukraine, not the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Maximum six months.


      Russia will not smash Ukraine, only the Armed Forces of Ukraine will be liquidated, no options drinks after the destruction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the issue of ownership of certain territories will be decided, but Russia will not wage war with the people of Ukraine. This is the same case when time works for Russia good

      When I wrote that it is necessary to destroy Ukraine, it is clear that I did not mean to destroy everything.
      Of course, destroy the Nazi-Bandera state.
      That is, the same denazification and demilitarization.
      What follows is what you wrote.
      1. Des
        Des 15 December 2022 10: 27
        +1
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        When I wrote that it is necessary to destroy Ukraine, it is clear that I did not mean to destroy everything.
        Of course, destroy the Nazi-Bandera state.
        That is, the same denazification and demilitarization.

        The original "the same denazification and demilitarization." became the security of LDNR +. For me, this is not to be confused with Kemskaya))) - to give the Polish to the Poles, the Romanians / Hungarians, etc. The Russian - to us. But this is the right of the strong.
        1. Ulan.1812
          Ulan.1812 15 December 2022 11: 31
          0
          Quote: Des
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          When I wrote that it is necessary to destroy Ukraine, it is clear that I did not mean to destroy everything.
          Of course, destroy the Nazi-Bandera state.
          That is, the same denazification and demilitarization.

          The original "the same denazification and demilitarization." became the security of LDNR +. For me, this is not to be confused with Kemskaya))) - to give the Polish to the Poles, the Romanians / Hungarians, etc. The Russian - to us. But this is the right of the strong.

          I think so too...
    2. Des
      Des 15 December 2022 10: 21
      0
      Quote from BattleToads
      This is the same case when time works for Russia good

      unlikely.
  20. Vashek
    Vashek 13 December 2022 13: 06
    -2
    Nuclear weapons will not be used. And how great it would be to resolve the issue with Avdiivka at once with the help of 0,5 Kt.
  21. withoutreverse
    withoutreverse 13 December 2022 13: 10
    +1
    If applied in Western Ukraine, in the homeland of Bandera. I don't think I will be against it.
  22. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 13 December 2022 13: 22
    0
    Quote: staer-62
    Any flight of enemy missiles, drones on the territory of Russia should immediately activate a retaliatory nuclear strike, because we do not know what kind of charge the missile carries. The recent attack on airfields with strategists left without a nuclear response is the crime of President Putin, who brought the country to the brink of destruction.


    laughing lol drinks lol
  23. Arkady007
    Arkady007 13 December 2022 13: 27
    +3
    There are not many options here. If Russia is driven into a corner, she will have no choice but to use tactical nuclear weapons to start, and even if this does not stop ....
    A common survival tactic.
    Remember WWII. Hitler wanted to use the atomic bomb, but did not have time.
    And we have them ready to use.
    In the end, why are we worse than the USA? Nobody condemned them for using the atomic bomb, not even the Pope.
  24. mavrus
    mavrus 13 December 2022 13: 36
    +2
    As I understand it, if such questions are constantly savored in the Western media, then a clear directive has been given to force Russia to go wild with nuclear weapons ...
  25. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 13 December 2022 13: 43
    0
    It’s not about making our own, but about destroying scumbag terrorists, and for the destruction of nuclear weapons it’s just the best, there are, of course, purely Russian cities like Odessa and freeing them is a matter of principle, but burning the whole west 404 would be very correct, this bunch of fascists doesn’t make any sense and the right to exist, at the same time an excellent buffer.
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 13 December 2022 13: 43
    0
    American expert on whether Ukrainian UAV strikes could spur Russia into a nuclear response
    Shaw can be assumed ... different "tails" are trying to twirl the dog!
  27. Alemax
    Alemax 13 December 2022 14: 01
    0
    President Putin's "gloomy statements" about nuclear war are rather aimed at deterring the West from direct involvement in the conflict.

    So they've been involved for a long time. From the very beginning, the NMD, practically the entire NATO bloc and the United States in particular, have been directly involved in the conflict.
  28. lelik613
    lelik613 13 December 2022 19: 23
    0
    They can excite a sadist and even a masochist, but they will not excite a cuckold.
  29. Guran33 Sergey
    Guran33 Sergey 15 December 2022 10: 40
    0
    There is one country that has applied language! And now the hysteria about a nuclear strike rushes from her .. Apparently their little hands are playful (you readers should have noticed in the case of covidla, as soon as the investigation into the artificial manufacture of the virus touched the American laboratory, everything fell silent immediately after the vague accusations of negligence.) something on the outskirts, they either do or tried to do it, but the Russian Foreign Ministry, respectively, foreign intelligence pinched the texticles under the carpet of politics.