The US Olympic Committee supports the participation of Russians in the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris, but again without a flag and an anthem

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The US Olympic Committee supports the participation of Russians in the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris, but again without a flag and an anthem

A rather controversial statement was made by the head of the USOPC, Suzanne Lyons. So, according to her, the US Olympic Committee believes that Russian athletes should take part in the 2024 games, which will be held in Paris, writes the Wall Street Journal.

It would seem that Lyons came up with an absolutely worthy and timely initiative. Regardless of the geopolitical situation, athletes representing even a country “objectionable” to the West should not be “outcasts” who are not allowed to compete. However, in the speech of the head of the USOPC, which is given by the American edition, there is one significant “but”.



The functionary believes that our athletes should return to competitions, but at the same time she is categorically against the Russians performing under their own flag and anthem, since the Russian Federation is under Western sanctions.

It is worth noting that every "Olympian", like other top-level athletes, dream of representing at competitions and defending the honor of their country. In turn, the ban on the Russian flag is a real humiliation for our athletes.

In fact, the United States continues to “play democracy”, allegedly defending the rights of “everyone and everything”, but at the same time putting forward conditions that are absolutely unacceptable to the other side. In this case, Lyons' initiative is reminiscent of US President Joe Biden's "willingness" to start negotiations with Vladimir Putin after the complete withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine - that is, on the basis of initially unacceptable conditions.
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  1. +54
    12 December 2022 17: 11
    It's time to put an end! enough already to suffer for the Olympians, who "trained, trained, and now why should they skip the competition?" Yes, it means skip. The country is at war, sanctions are all around, and these athletes only think about their personal careers. They do not give a flag, and there is nothing to go. This sports lobby is no better than the same artists and actresses from the "Ilitka" who are in favor of not quarreling with the West and participating in all their competitions. not even though there is a flag and an anthem and a coat of arms, it means not to participate. Boycott. whoever doesn’t like it, let them give up their citizenship and perform under other flags. But it will already be defectors and not the Russians. let them build their little personal world and their karjeks somewhere else. And during the period of trials, one must be with the people. the people are in the trenches and the athletes are all measured by texture. 6if you are such an athlete, go fight or volunteer!. Also me celestials ...
    1. +22
      12 December 2022 17: 22
      Definitely. I completely agree. They either represent the country, or they represent them for us, and there is no funding for them.
      1. +18
        12 December 2022 18: 00
        It's time to quit these games. Somehow they did not ban symbols and anthem at the Olympic Games of Nazi Germany ... and the United States after all that they have done.
        1. +4
          12 December 2022 18: 30
          Quote from Mitos
          It's time to quit these games. Somehow they did not ban symbols and anthem at the Olympic Games of Nazi Germany ... and the United States after all that they have done.

          It is necessary to propose that the United States be deprived of performing under its own anthem and flag. After all, such an absurd still needs to be looked for.
          1. +15
            12 December 2022 18: 53
            There, in my opinion, there are still conditions regarding the participation of at least 10% of LGBT members. Do we need it?? Maybe it's time to organize alternative games? Where these buggers do NOT take part
            1. +8
              12 December 2022 19: 07
              There, in my opinion, there are still conditions regarding the participation of at least 10% of LGBT members. Do we need it?? Maybe it's time to organize alternative games?

              And call it "Bezpelerastic Olympic Games". The whole world, except for the rainbow countries, must support
              1. 0
                13 December 2022 23: 30
                It is necessary that our officials learn to do everything except an enema, not through an op. Otherwise, don't screw up.
            2. +1
              13 December 2022 07: 02
              Quote: Petroglyph
              Maybe it's time to organize alternative games?

              After all, there is experience - Goodwill Games.
              Why not remember?

              And to spend on the same days with what the United States has turned the Olympics into. So that no one, including our "undecided", including, would be tempted to eat a fish here and participate there.
              By the way, and not like those of our Games, one-time, but on a regular basis and not only here. I think the Chinese, for example, will not refuse.
              And then we'll see if their "LGBT games" or our Games, which are held on those "old-fashioned" principles, will seem more attractive to people in the world.

              I, at one time, did not go further than the championship of the Union and the countries of the Warsaw Pact. If there had been an Olympic level at that time and there would have been such a situation as it is now, I would not even choose where to go.
            3. 0
              13 December 2022 23: 29
              One of our officials can send an Olympic team there, I think that this team will be tested for the requirements for new Olympians. 90 percent of the composition must pass it.
      2. +5
        12 December 2022 18: 36
        the very principle of games without wars is trampled! the palm branch no longer symbolizes peacetime for games! of course it’s a pity for athletes, but there is a war
    2. +12
      12 December 2022 19: 04
      Quote: voice of reason

      +26
      It's time to put an end! enough already to suffer for the Olympians, who "trained, trained, and now why should they skip the competition?" Yes, it means skip.

      Always, from the very beginning, I was against our athletes competing, no matter what competitions, under foreign flags, even under neutral ones. Only under the flag of their Motherland, their State. I think otherwise is a humiliation for an athlete, and I always wondered how the athletes agreed to this. Do they have no pride?
      1. +2
        12 December 2022 21: 43
        and always wondered how the athletes agreed to this. Do they have no pride?


        They have sports pride and participation and victory are important, and flags, etc., are of last interest to them.
        1. 0
          13 December 2022 18: 48
          They have sports pride
          Well, yes, of course, but what pride do their opponents have? Do those who have their own flag and anthem? Unsportsmanlike?
          Let them also perform under the Olympic flag and the Olympic anthem. After all, everyone is equal .. "and flags, etc., are of last interest to them."
          Let all athletes perform without flags and anthems. Then it will be possible to believe that "participation and victory are important to them, and flags, etc., are of last interest to them."
          In the meantime, there is a clear discrimination of athletes on a national basis.
          1. 0
            13 December 2022 19: 02
            Something mixed up in a bunch of horses people, and here athletes from other countries, talking about our athletes and surprise that they are ready to enter without a national flag.
            As for athletes from other countries, there are many cases when they easily changed their citizenship and played for other teams, including the Russian one. A professional athlete of the top Olympic level is a very “specific” person, well, imagine for yourself from the age of 5-6 for twenty years, relatively speaking, he skated or skied, or jumped long, six sometimes seven days a week to the detriment of other development.
      2. 0
        12 December 2022 22: 08
        Well, they were training, but the man worked and he was once in the trench, he can, but they are low. They have no conscience.
      3. 0
        13 December 2022 23: 31
        there were those who refused. but our media did not talk about it much. there is no need to encourage spirit and heroism in people instead of selfish interests
    3. AAK
      +7
      12 December 2022 19: 20
      So the “Russians” in Russian big (Olympics, World and European Championships) sports have been in the majority for a long time. They perform, train, and many of them live outside of Russia and for them, as, for example, the same NHLers, tennis players, swimmers, etc. the interests of Russia are not a priority, but the main earnings are from advertising and, again, not Russian ...
  2. 0
    12 December 2022 17: 13
    The US Olympic Committee supports the participation of Russians in the 2024 Olympics in Paris, but again without flag and anthem

    ***
    And no panties...
    ***
    1. +4
      12 December 2022 17: 47
      And in a known position, for the convenience of others
    2. 0
      13 December 2022 10: 53
      In vain you are talking about cowards ... To participate in the Olympiad and comply with the rules, we need to have time to "educate" at least 10% of LGBT athletes, otherwise we will not comply with "civilized" teams
      1. 0
        13 December 2022 23: 33
        we need to have time to "educate" at least 10% of LGBT athletes, otherwise we will not comply

        why bring up any middle-level official or higher - he has long been brought up as it should
    3. 0
      13 December 2022 23: 32
      And no panties...

      you can in shorts. but only in whites.
  3. +6
    12 December 2022 17: 16
    Again the conditions - yes, you went to ... with all your Wishlist! negative
    1. +11
      12 December 2022 17: 22
      The nastiest thing is that there are those who speak "for Russia without a Flag and an Anthem"
      1. +5
        12 December 2022 17: 36
        Ah! Two have already supported the Olympics with "Russia without a Flag and Anthem" Yes
        1. +2
          12 December 2022 17: 40
          Here are two who have already supported the Olympics with "Russia without a Flag and an Anthem"
          And I found three - who are for such Olympiads ...
      2. Alf
        +3
        12 December 2022 19: 54
        Quote: dmi.pris
        The nastiest thing is that there are those who speak "for Russia without a Flag and an Anthem"

        The question is not whether there will be those who wish, the question is how the resident of Ilyinka, 23, will react to this condition. Like last time?
      3. -1
        13 December 2022 23: 34
        yeah, and the guarantor will ask you to treat this with understanding ...
    2. +2
      12 December 2022 17: 27
      Quote: marchcat
      Again the conditions - yes, you went to ... with all your Wishlist!

      Sports and Western conditions are not compatible.
  4. +20
    12 December 2022 17: 18
    I do not accept our team without our flag and our anthem under any circumstances.
    And I'm not going to watch the Olympics without the full participation of the Russian team.
    I hope our leadership in the Kremlin will have the same position.
    1. +10
      12 December 2022 17: 40
      I hope our leadership in the Kremlin will have the same position.


      Alas, the last Olympiad showed the attitude of the leadership towards the "patriots"-athletes, they have been training all their lives, well, let them go and perform under a white capitulation rag, but in order to organize their goodwill games, as the USSR did, they don’t have enough mind or they hate it so much everything is Soviet.
      1. +5
        12 December 2022 18: 35
        I still hope that this position will be changed. Otherwise, it's a shame. There is a war going on, our warriors are laying down their lives for their Motherland, and the "patriotic" sportsmen are waving a white rag ... They feel sorry for the money and labor invested. .
        1. -2
          12 December 2022 21: 47
          There is a war going on, our warriors are laying down their lives for their Motherland, and the "patriotic" sportsmen are waving a white rag ...


          There is no war, in general, such words are punished with fines, there is a SVO, Russia supplies oil and gas, grain, etc., and is looking for ways to circumvent sanctions. And if the state itself cannot decide on a position, then what are the athletes to blame for, tomorrow Putin will sign Minsk/Khasovyurt4, and for the athletes the Olympiad will already be held.
  5. HAM
    +10
    12 December 2022 17: 18
    Is this really the Olympic Games? Or is it a political game?
    Everything is mixed up in the house ......
    1. +5
      12 December 2022 17: 26
      Quote: HAM
      Is this really the Olympic Games? Or is it a political game?

      Preventive games "Uncle Sam" and their mongrels.
    2. +3
      12 December 2022 17: 26
      Yes, in general, these competitions of pharmaceutical companies, seasoned with political conjuncture and transgender Satanism, have nothing to do with the Olympic movement for a long time!
      ps "and our guys - for the same salary, are already going ahead five times" - this cannot be returned
  6. +6
    12 December 2022 17: 23
    I hope our Olympians have enough pride this time to refuse to participate without a flag and an anthem, stop dishonoring themselves and the country
    1. 0
      13 December 2022 23: 39
      do not hope. after all, this is a personal tragedy for athletes, they have been training all their lives. the personal tragedy of a soldier who does not raise a white flag over a trench and pays for it with his life is bullshit, as it should be. But to pay with a career and money, and not with life, for refusing to stand under the flag of surrender is too serious a price for an athlete. Looks like we need to take this into account...
      1. +1
        14 December 2022 13: 07
        Quote from jdiver
        do not hope. after all, this is a personal tragedy for athletes, they have been training all their lives. the personal tragedy of a soldier who does not raise a white flag over a trench and pays for it with his life is bullshit, as it should be. But to pay with a career and money, and not with life, for refusing to stand under the flag of surrender is too serious a price for an athlete. Looks like we need to take this into account...

        according to the charter of the IOC, you can speak without representing any state, this is their right and their choice, but to speak without a flag and an anthem is a humiliation of the country, if you think this is possible, then I am NOT
        1. 0
          14 December 2022 13: 16
          it was sarcasm on my part. I fully agree with what you said and find it completely unacceptable.
  7. +6
    12 December 2022 17: 24
    This is to send our money to the MOK!?
  8. +4
    12 December 2022 17: 24
    she is categorically against the Russians performing under their own flag and anthem, since the Russian Federation is under Western sanctions.

    If in the West, sport was introduced to the rank of politics and Russophobia, then it was not time to leave these Russophobic "gatherings" and not disgrace the country.
    Only words "since the Russian Federation is under Western sanctions.", talk about the politicization of sports.
    1. +2
      12 December 2022 17: 27
      Oh sport, you are the world!
      This slogan of the Olympics has lost all meaning in our time ... sport today is not peace, but enmity ... it does not unite, but divides.
      1. +2
        12 December 2022 17: 36
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Oh sport, you are the world!

        And how everyone wanted peace:
  9. +1
    12 December 2022 17: 27
    Her phrase was not given here - "this decision leaves an unpleasant aftertaste in the mouth, but we need to move on ...". What Lyons meant about the taste in her mouth is anyone's guess. wassat
    Hope she talks about "Aftertaste" soon
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  11. +10
    12 December 2022 17: 30
    Enough of this shame. Athletes at the Olympics represent their country. Why does the state spend huge amounts of money on training professional athletes? it is simply impossible to succeed at competitions at the level of the Olympiad without being a "pro". And they spend this money so that we, couch fans, can be proud of our country and our athletes. Well, those athletes who are only interested in the results (and the corresponding "grandmothers") and who do not care about their flag and anthem, let them compete in commercial competitions, which are now full.
    ps It is simply impossible to achieve record results in competitions now without "chemistry". the power of an athlete, allocated to achieve such a result, exceeds the capabilities of the human body. But "not caught, not a thief"
    1. +8
      12 December 2022 17: 37
      Because this is a grandiose cut, as elsewhere, many hundreds of functionaries from the sport and their kept women feed from this.
    2. 0
      12 December 2022 21: 50
      And they spend this money so that we, couch fans, can be proud of our country and our athletes.


      And why do we need it?

      Well, those athletes who are only interested in the results (and the corresponding "grandmothers") and who do not care about their flag and anthem, let them compete in commercial competitions, which are now full.


      You have described almost any prof. an athlete, he exchanges his health for sports results and, in general, he doesn’t give a damn about the flag and the anthem, at the time of an active career. Then, yes, patriotism may "wake up."
  12. +8
    12 December 2022 17: 35
    Without a flag and an anthem, only about .... a day can go to competitions. I have no other words for these people.
    1. -7
      12 December 2022 17: 42
      or true athletes who do not care who to play for, the main thing in their life is sport and sport without shades
    2. 0
      13 December 2022 01: 35
      about .... a day

      At least give a hint what the word was, I broke all my brains
  13. -6
    12 December 2022 17: 41
    Or maybe it’s enough to bend the line, shove your pride into zhapen, agree and compete in the Olympic Games)
  14. +6
    12 December 2022 17: 47
    yeah after the requirement 10% of each team must be either ptdores or lesbians no thanks
    At least 10%: the IOC demanded that every Olympic team create a quota for LGBT athletes

    https://russian7.ru/post/ne-menee-10-mok-potreboval-v-kazhdoy-olim/
  15. +2
    12 December 2022 17: 48
    Problems begin with the audience, and along the chain and with sponsors, sports without politics. There is nothing to ride without a flag !!! Well done NHL, the world cup without Russia is not a cup. Russians should be at the cup.
  16. +7
    12 December 2022 17: 50
    but again without a flag and an anthem
    Not again, but once again..
    the ban on the Russian flag is a real humiliation for our athletes.
    No, it is not, and for the country too. They performed, without an anthem, without a flag .. Type, from the Russian Olympic Committee .. Here is OK Russia, they go there in full force and perform. Moreover, what is the Olympic principle? The main thing is not victory, but participation. Let them participate. Ugh, shame!
  17. +5
    12 December 2022 17: 55
    Professional sports are no different from any other business.
    So there will be plenty of people who want to perform without a flag and an anthem.

    Something Ovechkin did not stop playing for the Washington Capitals.
    And our media did not stop emphasizing that this is a "Russian forward".
    1. +2
      12 December 2022 18: 05
      Quote from Gromit
      Something Ovechkin did not stop playing for the Washington Capitals.

      There he plays as a private individual ... earns money for his own darling and represents only himself.
      1. 0
        12 December 2022 18: 23
        Moreover, VGTRK sucks on NHL news in every newscast on the radio.
      2. +6
        12 December 2022 19: 50
        Well, other Russian athletes will either compete as individuals, or quickly receive citizenship of all sorts of combs.

        Only members of the Russian sports bureaucracy will be upset. No business travel to you, no luxury rooms.
        Financing by our state of sports of high achievements is some kind of garbage.
        Let them learn how to make money from advertising. And then they fucked up, they pay more for a medal than the Americans, they give out SUVs .. So the war showed what this window dressing is due to.
        1. +2
          12 December 2022 21: 52
          Financing by our state of sports of high achievements is some kind of garbage.
          Let them learn how to make money from advertising. And then they fucked up, they pay more for a medal than the Americans, they give out SUVs .. So the war showed what this window dressing is due to.


          Completely agree, prof. sport should pay for itself, look for non-state sponsors.
  18. +4
    12 December 2022 18: 27
    They are probing: is the Russian Federation ready to bend?
  19. +2
    12 December 2022 18: 34
    Everything in the garden.
    Let them act under rainbow flags, together with the Germans.
    Only already "worldwide" such games can not be called.
    Let WADA compete with them - it will be an honor.
  20. +2
    12 December 2022 18: 41
    I do not need such an Olympics. Only with a flag and an anthem.
  21. +3
    12 December 2022 18: 42
    Trained, trained, well done.
    There is no way to represent Russia under the national flag, so you need to find yourself another occupation.
    1. Alf
      0
      12 December 2022 19: 58
      Quote from sent26
      Trained, trained, well done.
      There is no way to represent Russia under the national flag, so you need to find yourself another occupation.

      Is it possible to go to the machine???
      1. +6
        12 December 2022 20: 26
        Maybe to the machine.
        You can go to schools, there are not enough teachers everywhere.
        However, the state may offer athletes to compensate for the money invested in them. And those who wish can go to the Olympics under the white flag at their own expense.
        1. Alf
          0
          12 December 2022 20: 31
          Quote from sent26
          Maybe to the machine.

          Get your hands dirty???
          Quote from sent26
          You can go to schools, there are not enough teachers everywhere.

          It's not funny, especially if you remember the level of salaries ...
          Quote from sent26
          And those who wish can go to the Olympics under the white flag at their own expense.

          For my tasteless ... I personally have not heard of a single athlete who prepared at his own expense.
  22. +3
    12 December 2022 18: 48
    There is one more nuance. Each team must have up to 10% LGBT representatives.
    Everything seems to be moving towards the creation of new Olympic Games without pederasts, etc.
  23. +2
    12 December 2022 18: 50
    In my opinion, it would be worth reviving traditions, because everything new is already once forgotten old!
    The Goodwill Games were created on the initiative of Ted Turner as an alternative to the Olympic Games after the US and other Western countries boycotted the Moscow Olympics in 1980 due to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the US retaliatory boycott of the Los Angeles Olympics in 1984 by the US.

    The idea came to Ted Turner in 1984 during his visit to Moscow. Ted Turner was disappointed with the boycott, seeing it as a negative outcome for both sides in the conflict. The mogul also thought it was a good time to create high-level alternative competitions that could steal some of the success from the Olympics. The organization of the competition cost him more than $ 11 million.

    The first Games were held in Moscow (USSR) in July 1986. More than 3000 athletes from 79 countries took part in them, who competed for 182 gold medals in 18 sports. During the competition, six world records were broken, several continental and national (Sergei Bubka in pole vault, Jackie Joyner-Kersee in the heptathlon, as well as records for men and women in cycling).

    It is clear that these were perestroika approaches, we no longer need American organizers ...
    And you can even come up with a different name! But there are always alternatives, the main thing is to have a positive agenda.
    1. -3
      13 December 2022 19: 39
      Goodwill Games - a failed American business project for the commercialization of sports competitions .. What's the point of reviving it?
  24. +3
    12 December 2022 19: 02
    It's not the Olympics anymore. Such competitions should exist outside the politics of the world. Of course, years of training can go to waste if you refuse to participate. Better to refuse. The absence of Russia will be an indicator. Together with the BRICS, it would be necessary to start doing an analogue of sports.
  25. +2
    12 December 2022 19: 05
    The Russian Federation and Russia are already considered non-existent. And we agree with this. The unrequited humiliation of the flag and dignity of the state will eventually lead to the fact that this state will ingloriously disappear. And the people with him.
    You don't have to go. It is necessary to arrange an alternative sports contest for members of the national team and the second team. No transgender people. Let not our Olympians participate. But we will draw organizational conclusions.
    1. 0
      13 December 2022 23: 53
      But we will draw organizational conclusions.

      we then made conclusions last time.
      Still the state would start to make them
  26. -2
    12 December 2022 19: 23
    The state did not even lift a finger to protect our athletes. And now everyone is surprised that they change their passports and play for foreign teams and clubs. They do it right.
  27. -4
    12 December 2022 19: 24
    of course, without us, then whom they will still rip and spread rot (((
    and see let's go,,,
  28. +2
    12 December 2022 20: 52
    Dal bych o tom hlasovat samotné sportovce, kteří by se zúčastnili Olympiády, jestli jsou ochotni reprezentovat Rusko bez dresu Ruska, bez vlajky Ruska a bez hymny Ruska, což je velmi urážlivé.
  29. +5
    12 December 2022 21: 14
    They already humiliated us with these Olympiads and the entire leadership only bleated and made excuses. Now they are doing this on purpose so that everyone in the world understands who we are. No Stalin means the country is not a country. they will say you can go to the Olympics with a colorful LGBT flag
  30. +1
    12 December 2022 21: 36
    Pierre Coubertin is spinning by megawatts already. Look at the black and white chronicle - how much life and expression is there!
  31. +3
    12 December 2022 21: 37
    That's what for, and most importantly - why? What's the point in messing with this battle of pharmacists?
    1. -1
      13 December 2022 23: 55
      And what is the point for us to be in the WHO, the WTO and so on? Personally, we don’t have any, to say the least, but our wise leaders find something beneficial for themselves there. We apparently do not understand this high wisdom, but if with a simple mind it all looks like very bad things.
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  34. 0
    13 December 2022 06: 07
    It's time for the state to have its say. In parallel with this event, which is becoming an LGBT event, we will hold our own competitions. Let our people compete honestly with those who did not make it to the Olympic teams, without any Norwegian, American and other "asthmatics". And that the prize fund would be appropriate.
  35. 0
    13 December 2022 07: 18
    In my opinion, all athletes participating in the Olympic Games should be on an equal footing! Whether it's an anthem, a flag, paraphernalia, admission of athletes and more. If someone is not allowed or is allowed under special conditions (without a flag, without an anthem, or on the other hand a transgender because he feels like a girl, etc.) it is better not to allow at all and not participate!
    The OIs must be held on a common basis for all countries wishing to participate. Doping is a separate story. Everyone who is found to have it should be punished for it, and not the entire participating country! Asthmatics with certificates authorizing the use of illegal drugs go through the woods! Or they do not take these drugs and participate like everyone else!
    1. 0
      14 December 2022 00: 00
      Here, after all, it is necessary to separate in everything and build our own civilization. With its own meaning of life different from serving the golden calf, with its own economy not chained to the colonial budget rule, well, with its own Olympics. And leave blackjack and women of low social responsibility to our then former "partners". But it’s like going in the opposite direction from the one where they rowed for 30 years, as if not in themselves, they rowed into a bright bourgeois tomorrow, but it turned out that what our government took for all these decades for an orgasm turned out to be asthma ... trouble and nothing more ...
  36. -1
    13 December 2022 13: 00
    Again they will yell "but we will still perform, even on our knees, without a flag and a gamble, we are proud Russians"
  37. 0
    13 December 2022 21: 49
    Quote from solar
    Goodwill Games - a failed American business project for the commercialization of sports competitions .. What's the point of reviving it?

    Thanks for the comment.
    I am not suggesting doing an American-centric project at all. He only showed that there were already alternatives, and at the Olympic Games the light did not come together like a wedge, even when everyone boycotted each other. And now we need a different name, ours ...

    But here is the idea that there is a sense in creating a positive agenda. And many countries will support the initiative, the athletes will come. The Soviet Union formed the space of meanings, created centers of attraction for other countries - it's time for modern Russia to return to this path.

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