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Kombrig "Vostok": Russian troops returned to their original positions in the Velikonovoselovsky direction

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Kombrig "Vostok": Russian troops returned to their original positions in the Velikonovoselovsky direction

The Russian armed forces in the Velikonovoselkovsky direction eventually returned to their original positions. Alexander Khodakovsky, commander of the Vostok Brigade of the People's Militia of the Donetsk People's Republic, wrote about this on his Telegram channel.


According to the brigade commander, a Russian attack on Velikaya Novoselka was originally planned. However, in practice, everything turned into an ordinary reconnaissance in battle. Khodakovsky noted that the Russian servicemen who participated in the hostilities, nevertheless, learned very useful information from the actions in this direction. The breakthrough was made, but they did not move further and remain in the positions that were for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The brigade commander explains the general results of the failed offensive by the insufficient readiness of the military units operating in this direction. But there is also a lesson to be learned from this.

But it’s also good that they didn’t cling to the advanced positions left almost without a fight by the enemy for the sake of a red piece on the map, and become targets in the shooting range

- wrote Khodakovsky.

It is difficult to disagree with these words of the brigade commander. It remains to be hoped that in the future it will be possible to achieve the desired success in this direction.


Recall that Velyka Novoselka is a settlement in the district of the same name in the Donetsk People's Republic. The other day there was a high offensive activity of Russian troops. The fighting in this direction has been ongoing since the spring of 2022, the positions here were held by the 53rd separate mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces.
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  1. voice of reason
    voice of reason 12 December 2022 17: 21
    -25
    In general, I fix changes in the tone of the "brigade commander of the East" in his posts. earlier there was more non-constructive criticism, now he is in a common symphony. So much better than giving strategic advice. Everyone should do their own thing. And about the specific news, it says the following. periodically opposing units of the RF Armed Forces push through the enemy. Or because we have better art, or because there are more shells, or because the enemy was changed to the armor and personnel units were taken away. Or maybe the enemy is simply "surrendering" throughout the entire LBS, and naturally this translates into a local offensive. Kotore cannot go to a deep operational depth, because it is not provided with reserves and unplanned. It is obvious that our General Staff is waiting to reveal the main blow of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Somewhere, 200 thousand in the "last offensive" should appear, and there it will be necessary to form a boiler according to the type of Debaltsevo or Ilovai. But while everything is going like this, it may turn out that the entire LBS of the enemy is loosening and weakening every day. From shelling, from reconnaissance in force, from constant skirmishes .... And the front, for its support, can suck out all operational reserves. Or collapse if it is not replenished.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 12 December 2022 17: 24
      +34
      I present to Comrade Stalin the brigade commander reported ... we went on the attack, but did not advance ... we learned useful lessons)))
      1. Godzila
        Godzila 12 December 2022 17: 34
        -19
        Quote: Clever man
        I present to Comrade Stalin the brigade commander reported ... we went on the attack, but did not advance ... we learned useful lessons)))

        Then there were a lot of Russians .. Now you need to take care of every soldier.
        Everything will be decided not by military means, there the topic is already starting to spin according to our plan. hi
        P.S. now the goal is denazification, crushing the Nazis to the fullest, including mercenaries. Well, "decommunization" is on. Everything that the Soviet people built to these ghouls is slowly being destroyed .. They will be an agrarian country and a buffer, near the border with Poland, or maybe further
        This plan is at least hi
        1. invisible_man
          invisible_man 12 December 2022 17: 41
          +21
          Then there were a lot of Russians .. Now you need to take care of every soldier.

          Excellent argument. Simply exemplary. Standing applause :)
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            1. invisible_man
              invisible_man 12 December 2022 19: 27
              +21
              As far as I understand you, the essence of the Russian soul is to die in hundreds, attacking the enemy's concreted positions in the forehead. Hehe, damn it.
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                1. invisible_man
                  invisible_man 12 December 2022 22: 43
                  +5
                  Dude. Admit that you're trolling for fun.
                  Because otherwise, it's a "phase shift", you need to see a doctor.
                  1. solar
                    solar 13 December 2022 01: 10
                    +3
                    I think your second guess is much closer to the truth. :))
                    1. invisible_man
                      invisible_man 13 December 2022 01: 15
                      0
                      In such situations, I am in no hurry to draw unambiguous conclusions, I am always in doubt)
                2. isv000
                  isv000 13 December 2022 19: 40
                  0
                  Well, if so, then what?
                  I want to understand your soul .. Do you hate Russia? and In general, everything that is connected with us .. Isn't it? [/ Quote]
                  ... we hussians do not deceive our own ...
              2. aglet
                aglet 14 December 2022 09: 38
                0
                "to die by the hundreds, attacking the enemy's concreted positions in the forehead."
                who saw them, these concreted positions? it is said that the enemy retreated almost without a fight. but they didn’t begin to hold the captured positions - then we’ll take it, in six months, having swollen a lot of funds and soldiers. why do we need them?
            2. Aag
              Aag 12 December 2022 19: 34
              +3
              Quote from godzila
              Quote from invisible_man
              Then there were a lot of Russians .. Now you need to take care of every soldier.

              Excellent argument. Simply exemplary. Standing applause :)

              Your sarcasm is understandable .. heh heh You can distribute it, but the essence of the Russian soul is not clear to you! fool

              Do not give out your IMHO (or, - service zeal, - I don’t know, - accordingly, I won’t hang labels. Unlike you, you succeeded in this under different nicknames!) For the Russian Soul !!
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          2. AdAstra
            AdAstra 12 December 2022 21: 32
            +1
            Yes, not just standing, but loud and long, but where were such smart people before February 24.02?
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 12 December 2022 18: 24
          +3
          Here the question is different if they went on the attack without intelligence, this is a crime. If they went on the attack after reconnaissance, then why did they come back? So and so done
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 12 December 2022 22: 34
            -2
            Quote: Clever man
            Here the question is different if they went on the attack without intelligence, this is a crime. If they went on the attack after reconnaissance, then why did they come back? So and so done

            And the third option is reconnaissance in force, you do not consider winked
            1. Igool
              Igool 13 December 2022 07: 48
              +1
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              And the third option is reconnaissance in force, you do not consider


              Reconnaissance in combat, not planned. An offensive was planned. Therefore, yes, most likely there was a lack of intelligence. That is why the operation was transferred from the category of offensive to reconnaissance-in-fight. Which indicates insufficient preparation for it.
            2. aglet
              aglet 14 December 2022 09: 42
              0
              "And the third option - reconnaissance in force, you do not consider"
              but if the enemy lost his position as a result, why not take them? why fight then?
        3. dmi.pris1
          dmi.pris1 12 December 2022 18: 44
          +9
          If it will not be decided by military means, then why was all this started? it’s hard to explain in fact. Khodakovsky has turned from a commander into a propagandist speaker with a critical bias. If a person is at war, then he has no time to engage in blogging.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 13 December 2022 08: 27
            -1
            If a person is at war, then he has no time to engage in blogging.
            Khodakovsky is the only one of the brigade commanders who is so active on the Internet. A natural process arises - when did he command his unit?
            1. zombirusrev
              zombirusrev 13 December 2022 11: 26
              0
              And you up to him .. "Yak to Kueva .. "(c)
      2. invisible_man
        invisible_man 12 December 2022 17: 37
        -11
        I present to Comrade Stalin the brigade commander reported ... we went on the attack, but did not advance ... we learned useful lessons)))

        Are you really that stupid, or are you pretending?
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 12 December 2022 18: 25
          +6
          Is it normal for you to go on the attack while remaining in place? How many victories do you know achieved in this way?
      3. Evgeny Ivanov_5
        Evgeny Ivanov_5 12 December 2022 18: 36
        +5
        Do you think that then every attack ended in success? Izyumsko-Barvenkovskaya offensive operation Malinovsky generally blew it.
        Maybe ours stupidly didn’t have enough strength to move forward, or maybe they didn’t expect such success at all and were stupidly not ready to support it. So they went to their previously occupied positions. It is more visible there.
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 12 December 2022 18: 48
          -2
          Did you expect any success? Did they return to their positions?
      4. AdAstra
        AdAstra 12 December 2022 21: 31
        -2
        I think he would be sent to a penal company for usefulness hi
      5. andrey682006
        andrey682006 13 December 2022 07: 40
        -1
        Oh, how many ukrobots got out. And everyone is for the Motherland, for Stalin, they give a standing ovation and are sent to the doctor for storming the fortified positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The combat sofas are refueled, the Internet is paid for, the main thing is that the generator is refueled and does not break ... And you can go to the toilet through a bag to the street.
        1. single-n
          single-n 13 December 2022 09: 29
          0
          how many ukrobots got out. And everyone is for the Motherland, for Stalin, they give a standing ovation and are sent to the doctor for storming the fortified positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The combat sofas are refueled, the Internet is paid, the main thing is that the generator is refueled and does not break ... And you can go to the toilet through a bag on the street
          .
          It remains to add that the reservation is from the draft and / or the guarantee of departure to Kazakhstan and here is the Kremlinbot for you. Or are you arguing as fashionably now, "are you broadcasting from a trench?" Rally and don't rock the boat. Moreover, there is no time for buildup.
          1. andrey682006
            andrey682006 16 December 2022 10: 35
            0
            And why does the Kremlinbot need a guarantee of travel to Kazakhstan?
            Mobilization is over, why book? Can you tell us about the Ukrainian experience? How many waves were there? And will be...
            No, I'm broadcasting from the couch. And I'm not trying to give advice "of a cosmic scale and cosmic stupidity" (c) to those who know and can do more than me.
            1. single-n
              single-n 16 December 2022 11: 07
              -2
              And why does the Kremlinbot need a guarantee of travel to Kazakhstan?

              Yes, it somehow happened that the more property and relatives a person has abroad, the more a patriot.
              Mobilization is over, why book?
              Yah! Maybe there was a decree about it? Or just STILL stopped recruiting? But how is recruitment in terbats in the Belgorod region? Nothing is over yet. "Nobody has really started anything yet."
              But alas, I can’t tell you about the Ukrainian experience. Because I don't have the information. I only know that while we pretended to be, you don’t understand what, they managed to mobilize and train people. And now tens of thousands of soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being trained in different countries. When will they arrive and with what technique do I know. But those who forced the RF Armed Forces to regroup from under Izyum are those who were trained in the summer in the spring. What will this replenishment achieve? What we hatched is not for me. There are specially trained people who have been trained and maintained for decades.
              1. andrey682006
                andrey682006 21 December 2022 11: 31
                0
                I don't see the logic in your words. If a person has property and relatives abroad, why should he be a patriot in his own country? How many people left without you even noticing... Or the same Solovyov, for all his shortcomings, lost his property in Italy and stayed here. But he certainly has a lot of relatives abroad ...
      6. Eugene Zaboy
        Eugene Zaboy 13 December 2022 08: 52
        -2
        Quote: Clever man
        I present to Comrade Stalin the brigade commander reported ... we went on the attack, but did not advance ... we learned useful lessons)))


        Everything is clear with Comrade Stalin, but Suvorov and Kutuzov would most likely understand and approve. They knew how to appreciate soldiers.
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      8. guest
        guest 14 December 2022 15: 26
        0
        Quote: Clever man
        I present to Comrade Stalin the brigade commander reported ...

        And I can imagine what would happen to this brigade commander.
    2. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 12 December 2022 17: 29
      +5
      I still can’t understand why Givi, Motorola, Zakharchenko and many battalion commanders were killed by the Nazis after the age of 14, and not a scratch on Khodakovsky. For some reason I don’t trust him.
      1. invisible_man
        invisible_man 12 December 2022 17: 44
        0
        You just don't understand politics. You need to be thinner, more flexible :)
        1. Godzila
          Godzila 12 December 2022 18: 04
          -9
          Quote from invisible_man
          You just don't understand politics. You need to be thinner, more flexible :)

          Kostya go teach history lessons .. And then he broke up
          Diberal?
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 12 December 2022 19: 06
            -8
            Quote from godzila
            .And then it broke up
            Diberal?

            He's not demodib!
      2. filibuster
        filibuster 12 December 2022 17: 52
        +11
        were killed by the Nazis


        You are so careful)
      3. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 12 December 2022 18: 06
        -7
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        I still can’t understand why Givi, Motorola, Zakharchenko and many battalion commanders were killed by the Nazis after the age of 14, and not a scratch on Khodakovsky. For some reason I don’t trust him.

        And he is smart, he founded Vostok, but he soon refused command; he is not responsible for military operations there ... there is no point in killing him. And as for the surname, it’s just that the dill had its own Khodokovsky, which was closed in the spring in Mariupol. Yes, and Girkin has been throwing graters at them since 14 ... apparently "Vostok" sent him to a well-known address.
      4. MstislavHrabr
        MstislavHrabr 12 December 2022 18: 23
        +6
        And I don’t understand why no one remembers Mozgovoy ...
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 13 December 2022 08: 30
          +2
          And I don’t understand why no one remembers Mozgovoy ...
          Because he did not allow gray schemes with the coal trade in his area of ​​​​responsibility.
      5. alekseykabanets
        alekseykabanets 12 December 2022 19: 00
        +12
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        I still can’t understand why Givi, Motorola, Zakharchenko and many battalion commanders were killed by the Nazis after 14 years,

        And the Hohlonazis? It's a very dark story. The People's Republic in the Donbass was not needed not only by the Hohlonazis.
      6. Eugene Zaboy
        Eugene Zaboy 13 December 2022 08: 54
        0
        A person actually walks on a razor's edge for 8 years.
      7. Planem
        Planem 13 December 2022 14: 39
        0
        Is there any reason why? Well, firstly, he was not so hated by the Ukronazis and not so inconvenient and potentially dangerous for the Elseputin oligarchy. Khodakovsky is neither red nor Russian patriot. He fits into the whole system.
      8. Pushkar
        Pushkar 14 December 2022 11: 14
        0
        Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
        I still can’t understand why Givi, Motorola, Zakharchenko and many battalion commanders were killed by the Nazis after the age of 14, and not a scratch on Khodakovsky. For some reason I don’t trust him.

        Yes Yes. "Why didn't you burn out in the tank?" (With)
    3. Elephant
      Elephant 12 December 2022 17: 42
      +11
      Quote: voice of reason
      Somewhere, 200 thousand in the "last offensive" should appear, and there it will be necessary to form a boiler like Debaltsevo or Ilovai

      This group is not a needle in a haystack. It is also rumored that 35-40 thousand vushniks are being trained by NATO instructors in the Lviv region. and their weapons are more than 90 percent NATO. Approximately the same number trains in the Zaporozhye region. With this in mind, it may be expedient to partially switch from energy, especially small-scale, and inflict preemptive strikes on accumulations of manpower and paralyze arms supplies.
      1. Andy_nsk
        Andy_nsk 12 December 2022 19: 33
        +3
        With this in mind, it may be expedient to partially switch from energy, especially small-scale, and inflict preemptive strikes on accumulations of manpower and paralyze arms supplies.

        Do you think that someone will take pity on missiles if they manage to detect a concentration of manpower? He is not an enemy either, he will not openly expose himself to a blow, for sure everyone is dispersed and well hidden, with the help of the CD or UAVs they cannot be destroyed en masse.
    4. spirit
      spirit 12 December 2022 17: 42
      +5
      And the front can suck up all the operational reserves for its support. Or collapse if it is not replenished.
      It was these reports that the Generals wrote to Wilhelm 2 in 1918) Here somewhere there was an article on a parallel branch about such reports to the top of the generals of the 2 Reich, one to one message good
    5. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 12 December 2022 18: 02
      -5
      Quote: voice of reason
      In general, I fix changes in the tone of the "brigade commander of the East" in his posts. earlier there was more non-constructive criticism, now he is in a common symphony.

      Wait, almost all of their languages ​​were pursed, tempering their ardor, except for the absolutely odiously inveterate types of Vladlen and Podolyaki.
    6. Maz
      Maz 12 December 2022 19: 14
      +9
      But where to climb forward if there is no reserve behind? I was surprised from the very beginning, sho managed to take? What for? We can’t hold it, the second echelon is learning to fight at the training grounds. It's a pity
    7. zombirusrev
      zombirusrev 13 December 2022 11: 24
      0
      You are up to him "Yak to Kiev ... crawling" (c) It's not for you to evaluate him, and you can say anonymously ..
    8. Kaufman
      Kaufman 13 December 2022 17: 27
      -1
      LBS of the enemy loosen from the spring, and all the same. Nothing is loose there! And sit wait while they soften - that's the way to regroup
    9. Arbeiternegast
      Arbeiternegast 13 December 2022 20: 18
      0
      Somewhere, 200 thousand in the "last offensive" should appear, and there it will be necessary to form a cauldron like Debaltsevo or Ilovai.


      Our calves and the wolf would eat .... If only it didn’t turn out like Kharkov. If the personnel were taken away, and there are terobes, then the personnel in the camps in the rear rest and train, NATO members. Yes, and the materiel will be refreshed. All this is very disturbing. And here you are going to throw hats (from volunteers?) according to the "Debaltsevsky type." ..
    10. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 14 December 2022 19: 09
      0
      Oh what about the cons! I didn't visit the site for four months. Is there a revolution here? Now for the word "Russian" minus in advance put down? what
  2. Reindeer
    Reindeer 12 December 2022 17: 21
    +9
    Yeah, well, that is, the breakthrough turned into "leaving positions by the enemy almost without a fight" 8) It's good that they didn't expose themselves to artillery, it's true, but in general - we need to start filtering, so to speak, the bazaar and not shout "hurray, we're breaking" ahead of time .
  3. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 12 December 2022 17: 23
    +2
    It's hard to comment on posts like this.
    Too many misunderstandings.
    1. invisible_man
      invisible_man 12 December 2022 17: 27
      +26
      What's incomprehensible here? For almost a year they have been pounding their foreheads into these fortified areas, incurring senseless losses. Because behind the first hacked line of defense there will be a second, and behind it - a third and fourth.
      1. voice of reason
        voice of reason 12 December 2022 17: 31
        -25
        and behind them the border with Poland. So everything is going according to plan.
        1. invisible_man
          invisible_man 12 December 2022 17: 34
          +16
          Behind them immediately will be the English Channel. People like you will throw hats on everyone). Dreaming while sitting on the couch - do not go to machine guns on a scorched field and do not spend the night in the winter in the ruins of former villages.
          1. voice of reason
            voice of reason 12 December 2022 17: 49
            -17
            Or maybe first one then the other. Right now I'm in the middle of my dreams... tongue
          2. Godzila
            Godzila 12 December 2022 18: 06
            -18
            Quote from invisible_man
            Behind them immediately will be the English Channel. People like you will throw hats on everyone). Dreaming while sitting on the couch - do not go to machine guns on a scorched field and do not spend the night in the winter in the ruins of former villages.

            Kostya are you a provocateur from Ukraine or the 500th .. hi
            1. invisible_man
              invisible_man 12 December 2022 18: 17
              +14
              And also - a Jew-mason and a reptilian, bred in the secret basements of the CIA to perish the brainless jingoistic patriots.
              1. Godzila
                Godzila 12 December 2022 18: 22
                -11
                Quote from invisible_man
                And also - a Jew-mason and a reptilian, bred in the secret basements of the CIA to perish the brainless jingoistic patriots.

                How insightful you are, then we have here .. laughing
                You understand everything without words wink
                1. invisible_man
                  invisible_man 12 December 2022 18: 25
                  +9
                  No extra words needed. I know 10 years ahead what you will say)
                  1. Aag
                    Aag 12 December 2022 19: 51
                    +4
                    Quote from invisible_man
                    No extra words needed. I know 10 years ahead what you will say)

                    Sorry, I was in a hurry - I gave you a "plus"))): IMHO: similar "Gonzalez" change their shoes in a half somersault at the expense of Raz! ...
                    I wouldn't bet even for a dozen days, let alone a decade... hi
          3. aglet
            aglet 14 December 2022 09: 56
            0
            "To dream while sitting on the couch - not to go to machine guns across a scorched field and not to spend the night in the winter in the ruins of former villages."
            go for machine guns, with a three-ruler and a red banner? there is nothing to destroy machine guns with? what a pity that our army does not have artillery, aviation, mortars, tanks, finally. there is only one hope - for calloused hands squeezing their bayonet
            and spend the night in the winter .. there was spring before winter, then summer, then golden autumn, why didn’t they fight then? did not know that winter would come?
        2. Nikolay310
          Nikolay310 12 December 2022 17: 56
          +7
          beyond the Sands and Avdiivka Poland? Oh well...
      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 12 December 2022 17: 47
        +1
        Quote from invisible_man
        What's so incomprehensible?

        It is not clear that Khodakovsky is not doing his job in the press ... on every occasion he gives out his comments.
        Is he playing the role of Konashenkov?
        1. alexey sidykin
          alexey sidykin 12 December 2022 18: 12
          -4
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Quote from invisible_man
          What's so incomprehensible?

          It is not clear that Khodakovsky is not doing his job in the press ... on every occasion he gives out his comments.
          Is he playing the role of Konashenkov?

          Take it higher ... there the entire main pool of top bloggers is ready to give advice to everyone on how to fight, between advertising NKVD Finns and Kizlyar knives
        2. Aag
          Aag 12 December 2022 19: 56
          +1
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Quote from invisible_man
          What's so incomprehensible?

          It is not clear that Khodakovsky is not doing his job in the press ... on every occasion he gives out his comments.
          Is he playing the role of Konashenkov?

          The second, or, - what other echelon of media defense in a row ...
          IMHO: everything would have been paid for, prepared in the economy, the Armed Forces - such "decorators" of reality would not be needed ... hi
    2. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 12 December 2022 17: 33
      +15
      What is there to comment on? The second Pavlovka was not arranged - and thanks for that. It's funny to read about some "breakthroughs".
  4. Kurva18
    Kurva18 12 December 2022 17: 34
    +4
    Sorry, maybe not in the topic, but still you need to decide. Khodakovsky battalion commander or brigade commander? And this is och. big difference.
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 12 December 2022 18: 13
      -2
      Quote: Kurva18
      Sorry, maybe not in the topic, but still you need to decide. Khodakovsky battalion commander or brigade commander? And this is och. big difference.

      Neither one nor the other ... after the founding of Vostok, he left the command and is now doing something at the headquarters.
  5. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 12 December 2022 17: 40
    +3
    They write with banderlogs they covered the fshistka with tosas ...
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 12 December 2022 18: 15
      0
      Quote: Incvizitor
      They write with banderlogs they covered the fshistka with tosas ...

      They write a lot of similar things ... and every month they can kill the same one ...
    2. Aag
      Aag 12 December 2022 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: Incvizitor
      They write with banderlogs they covered the fshistka with tosas ...

      ...Just a question, maybe? : a patch on the left sleeve in the form of a red cross what does it mean?
      Of course, all kinds of atrocities under this sign have already been done repeatedly. But, nevertheless ... request
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 12 December 2022 22: 42
        +1
        Quote: AAG
        ..Just a question, maybe? : a patch on the left sleeve in the form of a red cross what does it mean?
        They wrote that she was a medical instructor, maybe this means ...
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 12 December 2022 23: 11
        +4
        A red cross on a white background, if we are talking about it, then the background is a little different, but all the rodents can also be written there.
      3. alexis
        alexis 13 December 2022 05: 03
        +1
        This is the Red Cross of Anarchy.
    3. solar
      solar 13 December 2022 01: 23
      0
      Judging by the equipment, a medic.
      PS They write that she got in touch and wrote that the rumors about her death were greatly exaggerated.
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  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 12 December 2022 17: 44
    0
    2 hours ago Donetsk brake ":
    Whom to believe?
    1. Dmitry Rigov
      Dmitry Rigov 12 December 2022 18: 24
      +3
      The brakes are really slow, since they are posting yesterday's news.
      1. solar
        solar 13 December 2022 01: 27
        -2
        Actually, in this case, the brake has no direct connection with the brake, but in this case, you seem to be right :))
  7. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 12 December 2022 17: 46
    +5
    And yesterday he trumpeted a breakthrough, which in fact did not exist ...
  8. acetophenone
    acetophenone 12 December 2022 17: 49
    +4
    Quote: tralflot1832
    Whom to believe?

    Your question contains the answer.
  9. barbiturate
    barbiturate 12 December 2022 17: 49
    -1
    And who is going to break through? If you started a war according to the canons of the Second World War, with hundreds of thousands of soldiers, a front line and trenches with fortified areas, then you need to act with that tactic - declare war, mobilize industry and the population, use the mobilization potential, create strike groups with superior numbers and make a breakthrough and development. And if now ours are in the minority, what breakthroughs?
    Or you can win in another way - an ultimatum for the supply of weapons to NATO and strikes against Poland in the event of some gestures, no one in the West will burn in a nuclear fire for ukrov. Otherwise, the collapse of the country and our millions of victims of the poor and the dead + the same number of unborn children. Therefore, if we do not want to recruit a million-strong army, then only an ultimatum with the full possibility of nuclear war, who has stronger balls? The West is so brave because it hopes to serve time. As in the song it was "you are not afraid, because you have not been scared yet"
    Our country is at stake, but what about them? It is high time to raise the stakes to the maximum, like Kennedy on Cuba in 1962.
    1. voice of reason
      voice of reason 12 December 2022 18: 01
      -12
      as I understand it, the new methodology came to drown for a nuclear strike, and if they don’t use to drown the leadership of the Russian Federation on "weak"?)))) there are a lot of the same type of posts with such crazy proposals
      1. barbiturate
        barbiturate 12 December 2022 19: 21
        +6
        And you’re scamming everything according to the old method - a crazy war for 20 years until the complete exhaustion of Russia and Ukraine and 10-month assaults on all sorts of collective farms like Marinka?
  10. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 12 December 2022 18: 00
    -1
    What a brigade commander ... he has not been a brigade commander for a long time. And about the mighty offensive, the bloggers themselves trumpeted ...
  11. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 12 December 2022 18: 04
    -2
    Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
    I still can’t understand why Givi, Motorola, Zakharchenko and many battalion commanders were killed by the Nazis after the age of 14, and not a scratch on Khodakovsky. For some reason I don’t trust him.


    For some reason I don't trust you drinks
  12. Battle Toads
    Battle Toads 12 December 2022 18: 06
    -8
    Quote: barbiturate
    And who is going to break through? If you started a war according to the canons of the Second World War, with hundreds of thousands of soldiers, a front line and trenches with fortified areas, then you need to act with that tactic - declare war, mobilize industry and the population, use the mobilization potential, create strike groups with superior numbers and make a breakthrough and development. And if now ours are in the minority, what breakthroughs?
    Or you can win in another way - an ultimatum for the supply of weapons to NATO and strikes against Poland in the event of some gestures, no one in the West will burn in a nuclear fire for ukrov. Otherwise, the collapse of the country and our millions of victims of the poor and the dead + the same number of unborn children. Therefore, if we do not want to recruit a million-strong army, then only an ultimatum with the full possibility of nuclear war, who has stronger balls? The West is so brave because it hopes to serve time. As in the song it was "you are not afraid, because you have not been scared yet"
    Our country is at stake, but what about them? It is high time to raise the stakes to the maximum, like Kennedy on Cuba in 1962.


    All this writing can fit into the logic of warfare. And Russia is conducting a Special Military Operation. Anti-terrorist in some sense good
  13. faterdom
    faterdom 12 December 2022 18: 19
    +1
    Quote: Clever man
    I present to Comrade Stalin the brigade commander reported ... we went on the attack, but did not advance ... we learned useful lessons)))

    They didn't take it out at first. And carried away by unprepared offensives, they then suffered huge losses, in the same places, by the way, Kharkov and Donbass, for example.
    And as for Myasnoy Bor, or Nevsky Piglet... That was what Zelensky was now carried away with - throwing bodies at a task that, in principle, could not be solved with such preparation.
  14. Prokop_Pork
    Prokop_Pork 12 December 2022 19: 00
    +9
    "Reconnaissance in force" is a complete fiasco in all other types of reconnaissance.
  15. Elephant
    Elephant 12 December 2022 19: 42
    +3
    It is not clear what was the point of this offensive? What have you achieved? With such cunning actions, our military will not soon push the Banderlogs away from Donetsk. Yes, and the enemy will make amendments next time, incl. more carefully mined approaches to their positions
  16. Lom_2
    Lom_2 12 December 2022 22: 18
    +1
    The desire to advance and not lose their people is understandable. But in conditions of saturation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with Western technology, this is impossible. The only way out is to create a large numerical superiority. And advance along the entire length of the Russian-Ukrainian border. Maybe then it will be possible to stretch their parts and break through their defenses somewhere.
    1. Epaulettes
      Epaulettes 13 December 2022 18: 20
      0
      So you're suggesting throwing meat at them, right?

      "Perhaps then it will be possible"
      Or maybe not. What then?
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  18. FoBoss_VM
    FoBoss_VM 13 December 2022 07: 18
    -1
    I wonder how long the war will last at this pace? And how will it end.
    1. single-n
      single-n 13 December 2022 09: 34
      0
      1. In such a long time. PMV as an example.
      2. Those who directly participate will receive devastation and a demographic catastrophe.
      3. Those who "help" them will rise well. Turkey and USA for example.
  19. Deon59
    Deon59 13 December 2022 09: 08
    -2
    We’ve been attacking Bakhmut for 10 months, but we won’t take it no matter how. But how much experience we gain in frontal attacks, you see, by the end of 24 years, we’ll take it.
  20. Lom_2
    Lom_2 13 December 2022 13: 27
    0
    It seems that the tank and 3 infantry fighting vehicles were lost during the attack
  21. Former soldier
    Former soldier 14 December 2022 06: 59
    0
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine repeat this trick again and again: they leave their positions, the village, the hub, when we occupy it, everything is already shot by them. What's new then?
    1. aglet
      aglet 14 December 2022 12: 38
      0
      "when we occupy it, everything is already shot by them"
      why bother with them then? Yes, no one takes anything, they sit on the priest evenly, eat free stew and occasionally shoot from regular weapons in the direction of the enemy. even when the enemy is losing ground, they prefer to go back to the stew. judging by the grandiose successes, this is exactly how these soldiers are fighting, both from the LPR and from the Vsrf
  22. yuriy1863
    yuriy1863 14 December 2022 12: 46
    0
    According to the brigade commander, a Russian attack on Velikaya Novoselka was originally planned. However, in practice, everything turned into an ordinary reconnaissance in battle.

    Based on the theory, this is the only type of reconnaissance activity that involves engaging in combat with the enemy. They resort to it either when other intelligence methods have exhausted themselves, but the information obtained is not enough, or when it is impossible to use other methods. As far as I remember from military memoirs, during the Second World War, they often tried not to use this method - they took care of people. As a rule, they threw penalty boxers for reconnaissance. And now you only hear about reconnaissance in battle ...
  23. IvanR
    IvanR 14 December 2022 19: 05
    0
    I translate into Russian: "went on the attack, got lyuli and returned to their original positions"